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4 hours ago, kokodus said:
I still don't think the "love in his 20s" part means a romantic love....In one of the translations I read, it was subbed as "love that came to him in his 20s" so it could also mean one sided love on the girl's part, whoever that is. I just think the phrase is used in a more general sense to emphasize that a lot of girls came after him, he is handsome and kind afterall, but no one made him turn his head or reconsider his childhood dream until he met Gyeo ul. In conclusion I bet my money on Jeong won's first love being Gyeo ul. LOL.
or god
his love in his 20s..when his hormones realized god could be an option
(See.. JW was always meant to make this drama BL.. unnecessary complications in my JW-SH love story)
(for super sensitive souls wandering here itching to retort... think, chill, see the intent.. and move on)
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@nrllee lol there goes my hope for making this a BL
I guess..life wasn't complicated from the beginning.. and should i say, ep1 grieving cermony dinner was to the point..
Each one looked at the person crucial ot their love story in that group
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lol.. writer is still trolling. in the band scene.. SHwa and JW are wearing couple clothes..
white sweater with black neckline..
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1 hour ago, sakura22 said:
He has always been seen conflicted and in deep thoughts after his mother's request and reaction, after Ik Jun's chat and advise. Even the other 4 has been telling him to reconsider. I've also seen scenes where he had been thinking while holding the rosary bracelet, looking at the angel (?) on his desk - that to me all depicts his conflicted mind and heart.
I think the biggest trigger is realising his happiness from saving patients and helping their family members. It was his patients, his mother, his friends, the hospital directors and Gyeo Ul was the final straw that made his decision firm. Love conquers all.
Love from everyone including Gyeo Ul towards him and his love for them including Gyeo Ul.
Ya.. that sounds plausible.. see that' s sthg i agree with in terms of influence this friend circle has on each others' decisions..
we have seen that time and again with SH, JW, others
QuoteI wouldn't be surprised if he had completely enjoyed operating together with Gyeo Ul and watching her complete her surgery successfully - perhaps he wanted to see more of this too. Listening to her excitedly go over her experience reminding him of how he felt when he was just starting his career the same way.
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QuoteIt is not abrupt - he loved being a paediatrician you can totally see his passion, being a priest has been his dream since he was young and the only way to do it is to see it fulfilled - but dream isnt always the passion. Passion is what makes you and keeps you alive moreso than dream.
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1 hour ago, JungRok said:Well we havent seen his own understanding and POV on GyeoUl. We did see he is slowly leaning to Winter and the signs were like the eyes, the torn expression and Ikjun who knew him for 20 years. Other than that, he might talk with Shwa often abt his feeling
Sorry .. don't understand your point..
what evidence points to him noticing GY at the same time and falling in love..
and he does not discuss these things with anyone
QuoteAbrupt?
We saw the transition of months
1st Rosa plead in Early November
2nd New patient in late Novembet
3rd his interaction with Gyeo Ul over the OR
4th his discussiom with SongHwa. Seems like SHwa knows more than IkJun. And we didnt see the behind the scene of their discussion. And we didnt know when did SHwa know about Winter
5th His Mother Rosa. He is slowly warms up to the idea of not abandoning his lonely mother
6th We are still oblivious when did he developed that feeling!!
7th the reminder of unique status Yulje Pediatric Ward
Rosa plead = worthless... that's sthg that did not move him
New patient = patients not new.. life death situations not new either
GY - if you mean as romantic partner , i strongly disagree for that to be a motivation. GY as another poster put it.. with subtle tones of romance, but as a resident,.. and all those emotions/relations..more as a token of what doctor is all about and the hospital life..then yes
SHwa - they set that up beginning of the episode with people queuing to discuss things and that she is called psychic.. she knows..she is observant.. WHICH essentially warrants another question - She must have known IJ had feelings for her and did not reciprocate
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1.22.30 (around that timestamp)
After he leaves post confessing, she sighs.. i didn't realize this in 1st watch.. but you hear a distinct sighing voice inspite of background ost
Why sigh :O
And isn't IJ the reason she moved to Sokcho in the 1st place.. ACH is not the reason!..t his decision comes abruptly after IJ's confession on dinner table..
and when she broke the news of moving to Sokcho.. IJ realizes he has a role to play in that decision.. the way he is not even looking at her while others bombard her with questions
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4 hours ago, romancetrash said:
While I can understand why some people feel Jungwon's decision is abrupt, I disagree that its very abrupt.
Its been told by little and subtle things such as:
1. His own brother who is a priest kept asking him to stay in the hospital. And if Jungwon had been that passionate in church, he would've studied instead of delaying and stayed in medicine.
What was the trigger then? don't think this is about romance..
This doesn't really answer anything.. him being fit or what his true passion is, i think all of us know that..
But, if a 40 yr old who is very careful about his decision, starts to think of alternate profession and pursue it so strongly.. and suddenly gives up = UNEXPLAINED, ABRUPT
Quote4. Gyeoul indeed has bee shaking his determination to become a priest however little it is. His feelings toward her is conflicted, but not because hes not sure that he likes her. Hes not sure that he could like her when he believed he wanted to become a priest.
Are you saying he wanted to be a priest since the moment he joined here?
GY has no or little play in this one.. i just don't see head or toe of this whole arc in romance
3 hours ago, ryanallright said:Think he decide not to be because maybe he also notice Winter at first sight when he visits the GS office.
How do we know this?
We saw her perspective of noticing him
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See.. i told you.. all theories aside, if a girl is not well or really struggling the one who loves her will be there..
Cancer results - it is crucial, whoever she ends with had to be there (while we still don't know if IJ was the only one)
JW being there for Jhang came as a surprise..but allergic reaction is so small in front of cancer, and if these two really stand for first love, then that's it .. is it? .. i can't fathom if he likes SHwa, worrying so much for an allergic reaction is very opposite direction
( i really can't shake ep 2 eye contact relay.. still think JW liked SHwa at some point in college.. )My conundrum is.. if you can run to wait outside her room for allergic reaction, how or why would you not run to cancer hospital for a 20 yrs of friendship ... character development is not consistent.. and this team can't be so lazy with their art treatment
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Biggest LOL moment - he joined his own hospital so late? 3 yrs back? Gyeol was at hospital before he joined.. what was he doing..and where..
Poor Rosa... her kids are weird...all of them
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I still don't know how to interpret IJ-Shwa.. she rejected and they went back to being friends? Isn't it..
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i thought SH would be open to Mina.. that came from nowhere..
essentially every other ship broke up.. even intern ship didn't feel like sure shot thing.. except JW's virginity might be at stake
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Potentially s2 is about IJ-SHwa comign together. is it?
Jwan and IK - breakup phase? or is she coming back
WIntergarden - responsible for cutesy in s2
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Very abrupt.. why did he decide to not become a priest , all of a sudden?
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MiDo is AWESOME.. for an excellent singer to fake / act being a convincing non singer
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1 hour ago, MairaA said:
LG isn't LJH.
LJH looks like LG because LJH is LGs doppelganger in ROK. It's similar to how JTE and Luna are not the same person but look exactly the same!
But yes, LJH is the child that was killed in ROK by LR.
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1 hour ago, MairaA said:Yes, that's what i meant.. we saw that in ep 1 ..
LG was crying for dad and lee rim found his doppleganger, his father, and mother..
so again, what is the spoiler here?
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6 hours ago, MairaA said:
There better be a beautiful answer to all of our questions in those pictures
Otherwise beheading is my kindest offer
and no, not in the way y'all are thinking (beheading is forever ruined for me because now I WANT to be beheaded)
Thank you for being our translator for that person @Alice Wonderland
You have such greats points!! I agree!! I really hope like you said in point #2 that it's not about imbalance and that things are a result of what LR did, that way our couple can be happy as long as LR is defeated and flute is put back together
AND THERE WE HAVE IT FOLKS
SOMEONE SHOOT ME
i don't understand the spoiler part
LG is lee ji hoon, that we knew from the beginning .. lee ji hoon is the child who was killed by LR right in our world
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2 hours ago, MairaA said:
Maybe my wording didn't make sense but what I meant by "the universes are never meant to meet/cross each other" is that they shouldn't be joined together, no one should be crossing into the other world, that's not meant to happen, they aren't even supposed to know of each other's existence but because of the flute and everything, our characters realize there is a parallel world where there's doppelgangers and all that but they were never meant to find out, and cross and kill each other off - that's what creates the imbalance and thats why LGs main goal is to close the door between the two universes while somehow being with JTE simultaneously. I hope that explains it. Lady Noh if she's from ROK, I'm sure was never meant to cross over into ROC but I'm sure there were circumstances that led to that which I hope we'll find out.
So, the way i interpret Noh's reveal is as follows
1. Noh was not transferred by LG or by LL, meaning knowledge about parallel worlds and people moving across has been happening since quite some time
2. Time loop has begun with LG to arrest LL, hence it is not about imbalance in general but specific to what LL has done
3. existence of parallel universe and people moving across is not a problem per se.. else flute would not have existed .. but it is the murders etc.. which make it unstable..when you reduce headcount from 2 to 1,you are disturbing balance at such mass scale
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8 minutes ago, Dramanoona said:
LOL. Love reading all the theories.
I remember in Goblin when he died/disappeared with Eun Tak crying her eyes out, we were wondering how in heck could he return.
I will keep TE alive for now and hopefully what happened in Goblin will not be a repetition or it will become KES's trademark.
And I will also say this here.
NO CRAPPY ENDING OF STARING ACROSS A FIELD AT EACH OTHER AND SMILE.
URGHHHH... I will prepare my army !
at the minimum, you can be sure that even if she dies..not a problem since we are clearly in a time loop
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4 hours ago, standingtallyy said:
In Chi Hong’s defense (it is because I have equal fondness to him as much as Ik Jun - I’m torn!). He already know Ik Jun has the advantage, he only had 4 years of knowing Song Hwa, out of the 20 years Ik Jun had. It was love at first sight. It was only in the recent time he finally confessed, which was met by rejection
. The man has resilience, and SH appreciates that. I liked that he asked permission from SH to speak in banmal as a birthday present. She agreed. He was heavily criticised by hard core Ik- Song shippers, accusing Chi Hong of crossing the line.
They say all is fair in love and war. However, I wouldn’t consider his action cheating. I think, he’s trying to be on equal footing against Ik Jun as much as he can in the battle of winning the woman’s affection. Ik Jun was marking his territory (sort of) by attending the NS department dinner, when he should be with his three friends. Ik Jun is just everywhere around Song Hwa
. That must have triggered Chi Hong. I didn’t see his gesture as being disrespectful. He is as much as a gentleman like Ik Jun.
if at all 20 years is a weakness..
known her for 20 yrs, he even married.. and nothing between them.. ahn was not random, IJ got jealous and in the lift..it ws too much which made ahn ask the question..
anyway, whatever, Shwa should just go on a travel spree..no need to give any time to any of them who can't respect her privacy and opinion
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1 hour ago, MairaA said:
So if KES is generally keeping that same idea, the universes are never meant to meet/cross each other (since parallel lines never meet) but because of various factors etc they do but as per the plot, LG will try his best to close the door so that the universes can go back to their original state so where does that leave us? We have good reason to expect a sad ending. LG will win the battle for the flute and the doors between the two worlds will close. But what about love? How will LG and JTE end up together?
red font - that's not true. Noh is the reason why this is not true. This transfer has been in progress since quite long
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5 hours ago, angelwingssf said:
ECSTATIC !!
But that was not what was shown. SHwa felt embarassed about it.
. The balloon just popped. If she did not have the hots for IJ during college, she must have known that he liked her that way. IJ might have been the main reason she is moving away. So, hopefully she wants nothing to do with him (IJ) and Uju since she like Uju just like her nephews and nieces. Out of Sight, Out of mind.
Hmm.. Would she be ecstatic .. hmm
I agree he is the reason she is moving away. She could handle Dr.Ahn, that was no problem - no feelings attached.
With IJ, atleast friendship and overall balance amongst the group is at stake.
The reason i am trying to understand how she will feel is to understand if her expressions can be interpreted as anything else other than what it seems like (she is really not happy during those confessions and continuously ignores them/avoids them/ does not want to entertain them, also, back to back almost confessions and that icky dinner with Dr Ahn might have scared her that IJ is on verge of making it awkward)
OR, is it that she had moved on.. but again, not sure how to interpret her expressions. They would not have told Mido the ending to give out the right expressions, correct?
7 hours ago, angelwingssf said:The only person who has not said anything is JWon. Some of us want to hear about his first love too, and if it is SHwa? And if that is mutual. But JWon current love is GOD. IF it was someone else , I would like to know about that too.
I think least of the mystery is JW's first love.. like there is literally not even an alternative to SHwa
(OFCOURSE, unless my make believe theory of this being BL in JW's mind with SH comes true
) .. and i keep going back to ep 1 mouning table when they were asked how come none of them had a thing with Shwa (and each looks at someone with very curious reactions.. instead of all looking at SH and Shwa)
Ques is who si Shwa's first love
and if she has moved on or is still intensely in love (i hope she moved on, even her original crush needs to put effort and woo her back)
17 hours ago, kuuto said:Maybe it's just me. I remember the writer mentioned this is friends met Grey's Anatomy.
Joon Wan reminds me of Chandler - the successful but sarcastic friend
if Iksoon is Monica - their relationship starts early and will be stable throughout the series with a little bit of sneaking around behind the brother's back. (with a little bit of drama). Just like how many times Chandler jealous of Monica's ex. maybe they will throw in IkSoon's ex boyfriend in next season.
IkJoon is really similar with Ross - the wife left him, he has a son. and if SongHwa is Rachel (minus the vain), it's safe to say they are end game. They may get together a while (maybe in the past) but won't be together until the end game.
If JeongWong is McDreamy - then GyeoWol is Meredith. Just like McDreamy already has a wife that he chose initially, JeongWon also has God. (I am not comparing God to Addison)
I will be waiting for "Pick Me, Choose Me, Love Me" line from GyeoWol
SeokHyeong i will see him as a nice George O'Malley who like Meredith at the beginning (the main character - in this case will be SongHwa) but will move on with Callie (MinHa - the "driven", "determined", and "outgoing" resident).
please don't bash me, but that's how I think.
lol.. i am laughing at myself.. i realize i can literally fit JW-SH in every theory (SH not SHwa)
Monica - JW - cleanliness, unrealistic expectations of parents vs siblings
Chandler - SH - hates daddy, awkward in social context, (Jwan is too focused and smart to be chandler) , go to person for each of the guys
like no one is better fit
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Hypothetically speaking,
Let's assume Shwa loved IJ. He is THE ONE. And, we know for sure that IJ has always loved Shwa, but didn't want to create problems amongst friends.
Now, fast forward to present times. If this man tells you that his gift to himself is having dinner and coffee with just her, that he publically proclaims his authority over you (lift scene) and declares his crush on you (dinner)... How will you feel?
A man you have loved, who went on to have so many girlfriends, got married is now telling you that he always had a crush on you?
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Come what may.. Jhang has moved on from JW..
i am liking women in this show..actually everyone is nice..still
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Earlier, I made a topic on how there is a continuous thread from one drama to another with this creative crew.
Their protagnist on surface appears to be the main character of previous episode, but ultimately we find girl going to another guy..
and i said, that end couple is someone who is more like JH than taek this time, because taek got the girl last time, and taek (chilbongie) did not last to last time.. it alternates..
TODAY, ep 11, i realize script writer still did the same thing.. ONLY i got the gender wrong!
This time it is Shwa - single girl, 4 male friends, all of them found her attractive at some point.. one was clearly not interested and harboured a long time crush on SD's sister.. - on the face of it SHwa matches all those conditions
BUT the big reversal is.. all the previous ladies NEEDED a man .. SHwa DOES NOT .. all of them had specific need to be fulfilled. She didn't.
She liked someone. We know for sure she didn't date these 4 but was campus couple. She has dated men. Whoever, her crush was.. she did not stop her life for him and clearly has not intervened in their personal lives ever.. no wife jealousies, no priesthood questions - just does not question choices..
SHwa character is very strong and unique in kdrama land.
Anyway, so the big trope is.. this time she needs to make her crush knwo that she has crushed on them.. this time onus is going to be on her!...and she refuses to overtly send out those signals
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38 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:
I think IJ does know who was on the phone with JWan. He could hear that it was GW’s voice when he spoke to her about the surgery, so IJ must have heard IS’s voice as well from JWan’s phone. Especially she mentioned Uju’s name as IJ walked in.
You know what, add another bit to it..
Iksun never asked for snowcrabs.. i am positive
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Final takeaway of this drama's theme..
close knit dynamics is between similar type of people.
Ample examples today, same situation different friends in those situations and they all behave similarly (JWan situation = JW when a donor died and they used donor's organs and their response to parents)
All of them have same wire..
Minha-GY
5 friends
Rosa-Ju
Bro-sis
all groups/couples..
Final couple will be who are most similar in personality.. yup! .. principles of life wise (not eating alike
.. or maybe who knows) .. nah!...principles of life wise - closer = coupler
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1, "Ouri Gyeoli" first solo surgery - what is interesting is camera immediately turns to Shwa eating..lol .. didn't ikjun tell her his biggest happiness is eating with her
... but clearly he is more excited about Ouri Gyeoli's surgery
***to be updated****
Rosa-Jun: i think i want my answer to what is the role of this couple in this drama..
You can go lifetime knowing someone but not loving them, and one day find yourself loving them
friendzone to unfriendzone
But that's what i want.. maybe some friendships are pure friendships..you cherish them for a lifetime
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Clearly JW is comfortable with GH because he thinks she has moved on. He is actually normal towards her now (atleast the laughing in the garden )
Just as nurse told GH in earlier episode, that JW laughs with us and treats us
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actress is super sweet. GH's smile because she is happy she did her surgery well (it isn't that JW praised her.. but it truly is her profession and that she did it well).. go girl!
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IJ drunk - says he liked SHwa (truth)
JW drunk - call SHwa (why?)
none of the other guys called.. why.. and Shwa chooses to go despite a man so drunk next to her
I knew I'd love you with Shwa and JW .. lol.. writer is trolling all ships big time on this drama
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Let's just say gummy is very very lucky.. and i am sure other way round too..but yea very very lucky
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Last song - when he looks at Shwa singing when i met you (as a band).. she just stops smiling after that line and avoids looking at IJ
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irony of the profession, when you feel thankful that someone is declared dead just so you could save another life.. but somebody still died
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Rosa telling GY that i am his mom and he likes you
Is everyone blind to SH-JW.. JW's eyes literally twinkle when he is with SH.. he is his best friend for nothing (Sh and Shwa are different)
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Isn't it a VERY SPECIAL moment .. whoever's first surgery you assist.. just as important it is which doctor assisted your first surgery?
Why is JW suddenly so calm and want to do sthg with GY - his bucket list - if priesthood is dying, what is even his motivation to become priest
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I don't understand JW-
What is that compelling reason that makes him given up a noble profession as doctor in name of priesthood, specially given Korea has less pedaetricians and he loves baby..
Something huge should motivate you to become priest - as per ep 1 , death of kids?? Isn't he just ensuring there are less doctors to treat babies by doing this?
And, i can't believe that frivolous crushes or rejections are reason behind this (that's nonsense)
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"I brought you your underwear"
I rest my case. Only wives (ahem mom..but no JW ain't mom
) are allowed to touch underwear. SH .. stop thinking about SHwa.. looooook looooook at JW
Also, if there is a couple truly alike.. SH and JW
One feels sorry for the unborn baby and the other still addressed mistress respectfully
HOW CAN WRITER OVERLOOK THEM
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15 minutes ago, snowlou said:
I'm sincerely hoping they've been given gag order by the duo
All hope is not lost yet, we still have 2 more episodes (instilling positive thinking~~ ). Let's cry a river when the time comes and not before
No, there is no concrete ending to s1..so i don't think we are getting any huge hint of end couple..
at max..we may get a revelation of who else is in love with SHwa .. lol.. or some other couple..
romance wise..forget it..don't harbour hopes
. The man has resilience, and SH appreciates that. I liked that he asked permission from SH to speak in banmal as a birthday present. She agreed. He was heavily criticised by hard core Ik- Song shippers, accusing Chi Hong of crossing the line.
. That must have triggered Chi Hong. I didn’t see his gesture as being disrespectful. He is as much as a gentleman like Ik Jun.
. The balloon just popped. If she did not have the hots for IJ during college, she must have known that he liked her that way. IJ might have been the main reason she is moving away. So, hopefully she wants nothing to do with him (IJ) and Uju since she like Uju just like her nephews and nieces. Out of Sight, Out of mind.
) are allowed to touch underwear. SH .. stop thinking about SHwa.. looooook looooook at JW
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