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Just scrolled through the long long discussion of everyone and I can feel everybody's excitement  I wish I could interact with everyone during the live but I've exceeded my posting limit for yesterday when it was on ><. Can't count how many times I have seen the kissing GIFs but I ain't gonna complain 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, heartoppaya said:

Guys look !!

 

Ahh Min-jae danced so well!!!

 

 

3 hours ago, Jillia said:

Awwwww~~~ Joon Young added "Planned by/Plan by: Chae Song Ah"

And he gave a CD to Song Ah saying "To my beloved Song Ah".

 

Haha the way that their name was arranged makes me think that maybe HH is the Clara in the triangle

 

4 hours ago, nicoley said:

 

3. When they held hands after the performance, he held her hands so tighty <3

 

I have been thinking of why he wanted to play with SA for her graduation recital. At first I thought he just wanted to play Brahms song for Director Na. But SA's conversation with her mum today, I thought maybe he just wanted to be by her side for her potential last performance after hearing her decision to give up on violin. Why am I so late in realizing this? The scene just hits me differently now

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Hey Brahms family~ How's everyone feeling after the last ep? I'm back with my usual long post after the final episode. I actually have so much to say that I didn't know where to start.

 

I think the story was really well rounded. For me the greatest part has to be that our main characters since to have find a way to their heart - be it giving up on your dream, finding the sound of your own playing, or to realize the happiness within the pain.

 

Love all the performing scene in the last ep. I'm happy that the JY-HH-JK trio were back together - I was so touched by the scene of them playing together  (Glad to see that Sung-cheol has got more chance to show off his cello practice too).  I guess I hate to see the breaking of long-term friendship more than what JK did. Friendship for the win! And JY's mum came to see his graduation recital and she told him that she teared up during the last piece - that is 10 points for you Joon-young ah!

 

The process of SA saying goodbye to the violin was beautifully written too. I really like how the writer didn't take the emotionally part lightly and didn't make the process very abrupt. She even got advices from a senior who went through the same process ㅠㅠ Ahh you have done well, Song-ah ya. 

 

And for the make-up of our dimple couple, thank you writer-nim for giving me diabetes! I like how SA asked JY to wait for her too LOL (What goes around comes around, PJY :P). But the choice of the Schumann "Widmung" piece was just beautiful - "You raise me lovingly above myself. My good spirit, my better self."  Such a good fit for the couple's relationship  I guess nobody is complaining about the kissing scene (We all know the previous ones are just a peck). I'm so glad for the happy ending of the couple (PS: I guess the stare competition ending is left for HH and JK).

 

I'm really sad DYLB ended but it has been a wonderful journey for me. Throughout the process of waiting for the new episode to be out every week, the uncertainties and worries that flooded me during the process was clearly shown in my previous rant and review posts. I've only realized now that I was just like the characters - feeling lost in their own story. Definitely gonna re-watch the show but this part of the experience will never be the same again. I think the show has given me more healing and happiness than pain too - hope I could eventually find a way and the courage to go on in my life like the characters.

 

Thanks to the wonderful production team of DYLB for the great piece of work - it has made my autumn in 2020 more complete. And thanks to everyone in the Brahms family who have been posting updates, reviews, GIFs, LOLs, and interacting with me - it was a joyful ride with you!

 

Closing off with our lovely Dimple couple

 

 

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2 hours ago, Melly Trw said:

Can anyone please translate what's written in the calendar of 11th month, on the SA's bedroom desk. Somebody said that this drama will lead to JY birthday. In that calendar there are 2 special dates, so I'm kinda curious what occasion is that? Thank you so much. 

They're the dates for SA's entrance exam and her graduation recital respectively.

 

I'm guessing if the time jump will come to 2021 for their graduation, JY's birthday might be early in the year.

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1 hour ago, rozelan said:

I would think the other accompanist would be glad since she was already paid and could go home early. 

Ha! This solves my confusion right away - I guess it does make sense for the accompanist

 

@celebriannaI thought the same too when I was watching the performance scene - I suppose JY is just so talented? I hope they will give us more of the dimple couple moments too!! Perhaps they can go through the process of friend to lover again cause I enjoy their previous 'friend' moments too

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5 hours ago, Sky8lue said:

"Later I realised even though the piece that we performed was from the F.A.E. (Free, but lonely) Sonata, but Brahms' favourite composition was the F.A.F. (free, but happy). I found this out later."

 

Ahhh I hope this later won't be too long - It can be one hour after the performance (cough) i.e.: the confession.

 

I'm not confused by SA but rather the writer's intention on SA's feeling. I wonder if SA always mentioning her love for violin in parallel with her love for JY was meant to be a metaphor or just a process of SA figuring out that her feeling for both doesn't have to be the same. While I definitely can't relate to the former, but if it was the latter, the writer did a good job in confusing me together with SA.

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How's everybody surviving the episode? I was drowned in FEELs....with some BUTs

 

 

A lot of conversations in this ep:

• Director Na and SA's conversation about JY
• JK's dad and Director Na on his choice of happiness
• MS and DY on their past feelings
• Young In and JY on relationship with SA
• Young In and Prof. Yoo on teaching
• DY and SA on giving up something you love
• JY and JK on JY giving up piano
• JY and SA conversation at the funeral
• SA and JY on her hope that he could follow his heart

 

Many are heart-felt conversations. I always like a heart-felt conversation in drama. It can feel cheesy but it involves something so important in life - to face your heart even when it's so fragile. I'm happy that these characters are opening up to each others and facing the difficult feelings together. My favorite one has to be the advice of Young In for Prof. Yoo - "Everybody makes mistakes. The problem is to know how to learn from the mistakes". I sincerely hope Prof. Yoo can reflect on Young In's words - it's never too late and too old to realize your mistake and learn from it, please find your passion in teaching again.

 

While SA and DY's conversation on giving up something you love......confuses me. I wonder why this conversation reminded SA of the words that she said to JY on Traumerei? Does she just realized that she likes JY more than she thinks? Or does she finally realized that it takes time to let go of the complex feeling for a 15 years connection? Can SA actually relate to JY's feeling now or is she still thinking about her own pain? I wasn't sure what the writer is trying to tell. The same goes to what SA told JY on her decision to give up violin. So you feel like you're in a one-sided love relationship all this long? Why does this have to be associated with her relationship with JY? I'm again, confused.

 

Another confusing one for me is JY and JK's conversation - mainly by what is in JK's mind. So JK you suddenly made up your mind on your feelings for JY after you have destroyed his relationship??? Excuse me???? And writer-nim are you trying to make JK and HH back together???

 

 

An eventful ep too:

• JY leaving Prof. Yoo
• Young In knowing about the breakup
• HH left to NY without saying goodbye to JY and JK
• JY's new trigger word - the god damn UMBRELLA!!!!!!!!
• The handkerchief that hasn't been gifted
• SA's graduate program entrance exam (50 points as expected from Prof. Duster :/)
• SA announced her giving up on violin to her family
• JY wanted to quit piano and SJ seeking help from Young In (Too late SJ, too late. The seat is for SA :P) 
• JK giving up on the professorship and the passing of Director Na
• JY and HH came to the funeral
• JY waited for SA at the funeral and the conversation 
• JY offered to play for SA's graduation recital
• JY confessing to SA (Joon-young ah~ You did well  ㅠㅠ)

 

For me the biggest one has to be the passing of Director Na. Nothing else matters in front of death and I feel sorry for JK's lost. But the incident does seems to bring the friendship of JY, HH, and JK back together again. I think Director Na sincerely cares for JY - how I wish she could hear the Brahms piece that JY played together with SA ㅠㅠ While the scene of SA and JY is beautiful - I can't stop thinking about what happened SA's previous accompanist? Did they just tell her to go home? Like the conductor in ep1? (Pls excuse me)

 

And our boy JY finally able to act from his heart - yes say goodbye to the professor, yes you can stop playing piano if you don't want to (but make sure you have enough money in your account), and yes say I love you to your love. I think SA has underestimated the meaning of the umbrella to JY - the boy just breaks down hearing the word and the whole world has to remind him to bring the UMBRELLA ㅠㅠ You can let her know your mind, give yourself a break, let her feel bad. The person you need 10 points from is yourself.

 

And the production team really have to tease us till the last minute. What's with the final preview?! Let's be friend?! If the reason for their breakup previously was SA unsure of JY's heart, now that JY's heart is exposed in open air, SA still wants to be ONLY friends? I wonder what do one still wish for. Well.... at least JY's mum is getting a divorce and hopefully that would free her and JY from the toxic dad. And the trio is actually happening YAY!

 

Do I still wish for a HE? Of course... but maybe the characters freeing themselves are a good enough ending for me? Let's see what they have to offer tomorrow.

 

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Sorry for the rants LOL. I've calmed down a bit after reading your discussions. Yes give me my dimple couple happy ending

 

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Thanks to everyone who shares the new pics, preview, and BTS updates! 

 

This drama is making me all sentimental - I'm excited to see the last 2 episodes but I didn't want the drama to end. I'm gonna miss the couple so much

 

@Jillia @rozelan I hope JY and HH can go back to being friends too since they do still care about each other. Hopefully they will meet up again before HH travels to New York - drink some soju and let your feelings out! I think Young In is actually the few people that could help with SA and JY relationship. I feel like in the scene where SA was talking about the person who keep coming to her when he was feeling down, Young In knew the person was JY. And the way both SA and JY shared the news of them dating to Young In too

 

I think Min Jae looks really good in light brown outfit. The light brown shirt is my favorite outfit of JY (after his formal outfit). And I feel like it's always good to see them in brighter outfit because I somehow associate that with positive things happening to them

 

Hope we will all enjoy the episode today

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1 hour ago, Jillia said:

I thought this was a underrated moment in the drama. Song Ah knew something was off about Joon Young and Joon Young... well... I mark this as the actual moment of them recognizing eachother in a way. Not sure if I make sense.

Source: DCGall, credit as labeled

 

I love all the little moments between them in the early episodes. Maybe this is one of the moment in the progression of them slowly see the fact that the other person is a Brahms too in another love triangle? They have never explicitly mentioned it to one another but they just understood the implications as they have the Brahms radar? I guess this similarity is one of the reason they came close to each other too.

 

 

2 hours ago, Jillia said:

"Joon Young trying to protect Song Ah from the truth" scene which is SO interesting with what we know now and how Joon Young dealt with the whole "Träumerei" leak. Song Ah told him back then that she would rather know the truth than feeling like a idiot. And now, he did exactly that. He kept the whole "Träumerei" leak from her and Jung Kyung was the one who exposed her as the "idiot" who knows nothing.

 

Source: DCGall, credit as labeled

 

This reminded me again on how different JY and SA is on facing the truth in the relationship as the Brahms in the love triangle. For the same situation, JY thinks choosing not to see to not get hurt as a better solution while SA thinks facing the truth and get hurt is better than being a fool. This attitude was also shown in JY's narration in ep2 where he described his life issues as 'the truth that I'm aware of but not wanting to face'. 

 

It makes me wonder if this is because of the different situations that they grow up in - SA has a decent family that provides her with love and able to support her in pursuing her dream. On the other hand, JY had to support his family from a young age and he put the burden of 'playing piano for making Director Na proud' on himself too. He's probably worn off with all the financial and emotional burden so I can understand why he would want to run away from issues (Having said that, his relationship with JK is also more complicated due to the foundation). In that regards, I kind of feel that SA is a very lucky person as not everyone can afford to have such courage.

 

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@Sky8lue Thanks for sharing the article. I'm surprised on the fact that Prof. Duster still allows SA to proceed with her master program entrance exam. But maybe the application has been done and cannot be cancelled and she has introduced SA to many of her colleagues as her future teaching assistant. I think she's not playing it as solo as a piano accompanist called SA to say she's available to play for SA in last week's episode. I wonder whose marking standard matters the most for the entrance exam performance? If it is heavily based on Prof. Duster then I doubt SA will pass as SA no longer fits her purpose (as a PA and to get JY as a guest for their chamber performance).

 

I think the Brahms piece is for their graduation recital too. One doubt I'm having is if JY is covering for her accompanist the last minute or if he offered to play for her earlier? It doesn't make sense to me that they could play perfectly without a few practices together. Or is it gonna work out fine because of the SOMETHING between the musicians?

 

@Abirami Ramakrishnan Your comment of starting the DYLB cycle again with DY and JK is hilarious.  I'm curious about what JK would do too. I think her response during her last encounter with Prof. Duster is from her trust on HH's cello ability that he doesn't need to enter a chamber group though the backdoor. But I have a feeling that she doesn't seems to be confident with her own violin skills and she's aware of the fact that she needs support to get the professor position. It would definitely be interesting to see how she would response to Prof. Duster's offer.

 

@Jillia A bit late to the discussion but for the ending scene, I definitely want to see the couple together (I think any setting would be fine for me as long as they are together). I'm thinking about maybe JY travelling back from the competition and surprising SA in the practice room? (So typical cheesy drama scene though) Another issue that I would like to see being resolve is JY's dad debt problem as I think that's such a huge burden for JY and realistically speaking, could be the biggest obstacle for the couple's relationship to go far. Just curious about how the writer will close this off.

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13 hours ago, sal2 said:

Director back talking about ep 13. I guess there was allot to talk about as there is 2 part.   

 

 

Thanks for sharing the reviews. The videos are long but very interesting discussion indeed - especially the discussion on JK and miscommunication between JY and SA. Sharing my understanding of the context here for the first video and will come back to the second one tomorrow.

 

PS: Understanding this video is a bit challenging for me so I probably have made some mistakes. Please do let me know if I get any context wrong and I would really appreciate that 

 

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#01 Prof. Lee who was happy of giving Prof. Song a hard time

(Praising the acting skills of the actress but one said he wanted to punch the character LOL)

 

#02 JK meeting Prof. Song

They were confused at the reaction of Prof.Song since JK is the heir of Kyunghoo Group - normally you wouldn't expect a professor to offend a potential financial supporter. It was a little unreasonable in their opinion.

 

#03 Extreme confrontation between JY and JK

They think JK tends to speak impulsively. This was shown quite clearly through this scene as she keep reminding how pitiful JY is with the fact that he has been receiving support from her family (which was a fact that he was TOO well aware of). They think JK's understanding of the mutual need relationship with JY is definitely not based on pure feeling of love and she can't even be considered as a friend (but a rubbish) of JY for the words that she said to him. Just a very self-centered character which focused on her own pain of not able to get something she wants.
From the reaction of Director Na witnessing the scene, they think she might have realized that she needs to confront her granddaughter. JK probably misunderstood the intention of Director Na helping JY and thinking that JY was 'owned' by her family. She might have think of JY as something she could own anytime she reaches out. And suddenly the person became successful in his musical career and even rejected my confession? How dare him?

 

#04 JY's mom message on the resolved money problem

JY has been aware of the fact that he's playing to pay the debt of his dad since he was young. The hidden fact that there were more debt that was paid off by the foundation must have shocked him hugely while JK has to keep reminding him of the fact.

In their opinion, the relationship between JY and JK is not possible. As their previous comment on love, 사랑이란 서로 우뚝 서야한다 (Love is standing tall for each other/ Love is willing to serve each other?) Not too sure about the exact translation meaning we need each other. The moment when the 'need' breaks could be the moment where love breaks as well - e.g.: when you can't provide me with the money anymore or other issue that distant the two person. You have to take the action to fill in such distance for each other slowly. The relationship could be a precarious one if one is just waiting for the other person to fill the gap. It might not even be love.

 

#05 Conflicts between SA and JY

On the question if SA should be that concern about JY and JK - SA have personal problems that came progressively to her. It's normal to view our own issues are always the biggest issue from our POV so SA is probably feeling defeated with all her issues. While for JY, it is obvious for us to see that he has a stickier problem so he's not able to give attention to SA. But from SA's perspective, she only sees JK that appears beside JY and JY's excuses that didn't match with what she sees (e.g.: Seeing them together in a taxi while he said they would be practicing etc.). This turned on the SA's instinct on their relationship the wrong way, can't stop being suspicious about JY and JK, and the self-feeding suspicious cycle could drive her crazy. 

They suggest that the relationship between SA and JY might not work out for their current situation because of their different way of living and communication (Just like how they play different instruments). Even people that speaks the same language and close friends can have misunderstanding due to miscommunication. With the miscommunication and their own personal issues, the situation of JY and SA is just as described in the lyrics of the song Thorn Tree (가시나무) - There's too much of myself inside me that there's no space for you to rest (내 속엔 내가 너무도 많아서 당신의 쉴 곳이 없네). There are too many thorn tree inside them that anybody who comes close will get hurt from the thorns. They can't hug each other as they will get hurt. 

They think perhaps if JY can share his actual excuse (His father's debt problem), that could have clear SA's mind from JK and actually create the condition where they could comfort each other. So the main problem still lies in miscommunication.

 

@Sneha Hope your exam goes well! The last drama that I was this engaged with is HP too I can't wait for the next season to come. I agree a lot on the last part of your comment as I can really related with the character's struggles (especially the inner one). That's probably why the scenes keep lingering on my mind

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3 hours ago, annamchoi said:

 

DYLB review ..

Can anyone do rough translation..thanks

 

 

Thanks for sharing the review! Interesting discussions from actual musical students. The two boys are pianists apparently (not sure what the girl is - probably either violinist or pianist). Sharing my rough translation:

 

SA's violin playing
They commented on the lack of attention of Prof. Lee on SA's practice. But they said there are a lot of nice professors out there (They praised their own professors LOL). Prof like Prof. Lee also exist in real life

 

JYs piano playing
They talked about Steinway & Son as the most expensive piano brand. The brand can rarely be seen in daily life except during stage performance (Some professors might have them in their house). The brand costs nearly $90k (100 billion won) in South Korea (depending on the size). (And they also talked about the differences in the piano sound of different brand? Don't quite understand this part)

 

Cost of JY as accompanist 
They mentioned that a normal university pianist student get 50k-60k won/hour ($40-50) on average as accompanist and above 70k won/hour (>$60) after they graduated or become professional accompanist (This is the rate for practicing time and the rate doubles on the day of the performance)

 

Prof. Song and Prof. Lee elevator scene
They usually have a main teacher and a little teacher to help them with practicing. The little teacher is usually introduced by the main teacher (or vice versa) and the student will practice with the little teacher first before they go for a lesson with the main teacher.
The little teacher that was mentioned in the scene is probably not introduced by the professor (not from the same 'group') and usually professors hate this. It will be obvious even if the student receives the lesson secretly as their musical styles might be different.

 

Tchaikovsky competition
The three major musical competition worldwide are:

 

1) Queen Elisabeth competition (every year)

2) Tchaikovsky competition (once every 4 yrs)

3) Chopin competition (once every 5 yrs).

 

Winning the first place in one of these is equivalent to winning the Olympic medal of the musical world.

 

JK with the young prodigy
They were talking about how they get nervous when they go on the stage. They need to take medication for anxiety. But taking the medication gives side effect of dizziness. 

 

SA's late start with violin
They all started pretty young in learning instruments (5 yrs old, 6 yrs old, and 8 yrs old) and they chose their profession during secondary school. The reviewer in blue sweater mentioned that he was late at choosing his profession (end of his primary school) to get into musical secondary school. So to attend musical high school, he had to attend lessons in Seoul (travelling from Yesan every week). The reviewer in the black sweater also had similar experience of travelling to different cities for lessons during his secondary school.
They think that one should start young with instruments like piano and string family instruments. If you're only starting in secondary school/high school, it would be hard for you to follow through. The differences is even visible for string family instruments

 

Overall, they think the drama is not too cheesy or clumsy like other classical music drama and the detail in the portrayal of the instrument playing was really good.

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New photos of the two. They have shoot so many scenes on that road

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1. What kind of ending will we get?

 

Yes yes and yes to happy ending - I need the writer to give me back the sweet interactions of the Dimples couples that have been missing for the past 4 eps! Please make the ending so sweet that I'll get diabetes from watching it

 

2. Will we get at least one more kiss?

 

Yes - I hope we can get as much skinships as we could to accompany the happy ending 

 

3. Will JY quit the piano and SA, the violin?

 

Not sure if they would stop playing but I hope they can find the meaning of playing the instruments for themselves again 
 

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Can't believe it's our last guessing poll for the drama. I have experienced so many different feelings this week: happy for SA leaving Professor Duster, heartbreak from Joon-Song's break up, annoyed by all the professors and JK, heart-fluttered for Bin-Jae's sweet interactions in the BTS, LOL from the squads who went to take down JK and Professor Duster (You're da best!), and a bit sad to see all the end-of-shoot photos. I'll probably miss these very much after next week. Thanks to everyone in the Brahms family 

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@Sky8lue Thanks for the text preview and the article! I think the sonata sounds great. The writer is really harvesting from all the seeds that she has planted in the previous episodes - The Brahms Violin Sonata No.1 as SA's favorite song, the lady who told JY that Brahms's song will suit him, and SA's belief in the healing power of music. 

 

But I have to say, it's really true that SA could be the strongest among the main characters - girl just move on while the others still linger on their past (some are still trapped in 15 yrs ago). Hope the other characters can be encouraged by her braveness. 

 

And looking at JY's situation just breaks my heart ㅠㅠ After reading @Jillia's comment on the violin bridge could be a metaphor of SA's heart, I can't stop thinking about how the piano that cannot make the sound could be a representation of JY who cannot speak for his heart. Now the boy is so sad that he wanted to quit piano. Imma go cry in the corner

 

PS: Voted for a poll for the ending of DYLB today and I realize that my heart cannot handle any other ending except the happy ending. You still wanna sell the 1000 Blu-ray CDs right, director-nim?

 

 

 

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Attempted to translate a interview with the writer. Thought it was interesting to know the perspective of the writer and her intention.

 

PS: Not-professional-at-all translation so please feel free to correct me

 

Spoiler

 

'Brahms' - painful for Park Eun-bin and unfriendly to Kim Min-jae

 

Original source: https://www.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=202010141350572410

The two persons that have fluttered their viewer's heart with their slow-burn relationship has eventually parted from each other. The reason for not being happy due to the affection for each other has made the breakup painful.

In episode 14 of DYLB aired on October 13th, Song-Ah was shown to say goodbye to Jun-young. Jun-young, despite wanting to keep Song-ah, gave up as she was "unable to be happy".

 

Two persons who are kind and considerate met but broke up with the wound. Viewers were convinced and saddened by the breakup because they know Song-ah's wounds and Joon-young's innermost thoughts.

Song-ah is the narrator of the 'Do you like Brahms?' story. Although the inside story of each character was shown, the viewers were induced to follow the narration and emotion of Song-ah faithfully. On the other hand, Joon-young's emotions were concealed as much as possible. These have saved Joon-young's character, who has been making moves for Song-ah but has always kept his own heart as the last priority while allowing viewers to become more immersed in the events from Song-ah's perspective.

In an earlier interview with Newsen, writer Ryu Bo-ri commented "Since Song-ah is the narrator of the drama, I wrote many scenes in a way that the play in Song-ah's gaze and Song-ah's heart can be followed. We can't always know what the person we love is thinking, so I wanted to describe more of the mood swings and the fretful feelings when one thinks of or faces the person he/she loves."

The writer's intention seems to have received some reactions from the viewers. Song-ah did not see Jun-young's attempt to draw a line with Jung-kyung and his struggles to cut off Kyunghoo Foundation to diminish the factor to Song-ah's insecurity. What Song-ah perceives is the impression of Joon-young and Jung-kyung together and Jung-kyung being provocative with her confidence in her relationship with Joon-young.

Things that were bound to hurt Song-ah took place in succession. Viewers who were immersed in Song-ah's emotion and also have their hearts fluttered by Joon-young like Song-ah can empathize with Song-ah being hurt by seeing Joon-young and Jung-kyung together. Song-ah, being unaware of what happened to Joon-young, was hurt by her growing anxiety from how much she likes Joon-young and eventually chose to part ways to take care of herself. This story structure has made Song-ah's declaration of break up reasonable.

On the other hand, the structure is somewhat unfriendly to Joon-young. Although the extreme situations that Joon-young is facing - Joon-young's dad who is feeding Joon-young's guiltiness by creating debts and getting money from Jung-kyung, the preparation for competition not going the way he wants, and a stab from the back by his professor - are shown, the details of Joon-young's emotion has not been portrayed. Joon-young's efforts to keep Song-ah from getting hurt are in vain every time. Viewers who know all the inner stories of Joon-young will feel sorry and affection for him, but the relatively weak description of his emotion in the story is somewhat unfriendly to the character. Ironically, this unkindness makes Joon-young feel more sorry.

This setting that left Song-ah wounded and is unkind to Joon-young is certainly a regretful point. But it also had a clear effect at the same time. It raises the level of immersion of the viewers so that they could be excited, happy, laugh, cry, angry, and hurt together in Song-ah's POV, as intended by the writer. Song-ah not being aware of Joon-young's desperate situation can induce the feeling of rapport to allow them to talk about the drama and enjoy it more abundantly.

The hurt is as much as the love, and the sorry love affair has ended. The two will suffer from fever for a while, as they did not break up due to hate. The choice that they will make with their still-remain feelings is expected to be the attention of the remaining two episodes. Whether Song-ah, who left Joon-young and the violin to be happy, will be able to find happiness or will Joon-young, who has lived without greed, reveal his greed a little selfishly amid a great sense of loss he has never felt before? The attention remains for the rest of the story 

 

 

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Thanks to @lovesparklys and @Jillia for the discussion on the umbrella scene. Actually every umbrella scene reminded me of the scene in the first ep where JY saw SA in the rain after the orchestra performance. 

 

 

JY wanted to give her an umbrella at that time. So I actually view the umbrella scene in ep14 as a caring move as I think that's how JY is. JY always gives SA an umbrella whenever he can. I'm a little sad that SA might have viewed the move as him returning the umbrella. Why do I feel like I'm the one going through the break up ㅠㅠ

 

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Finally able to write my thoughts down for the episodes. The emotional impact of the episode on me was beyond my imagination - I guess I have invested too much in the characters

 

There are actually many good things that happened in this episode:

• SA's sister praising SA's courage to follow her dream despite an uneasy path and trust that she could make a choice that makes her happy
• HH got an offer from a New York orchestra and made the decision to remove JK's contact as his first healing step
• HH worried about JY and wanting to check up on JY (Yes to friendship!)
• SA letting out all her frustrations and her insecurities about the relationship
• JY's plagiarized piece got removed from the channel (I kind of hope he will take some legal action :/)
• JY telling JK (again) the reason of his deed it's because of SA not you
• SA following her heart and decided to take a break from the relationship for herself
• DY calling MS to come check up on SA
• SA cried her heart out in MS's arm (Yes again to friendship!)

The break up doesn't feel wrong to me but it torn my heart apart - it's easy from a viewer's perspective to tell that they love each other, but it does take more effort for the couple to see it when they are so close to each other. From SA's POV, it's really difficult to feel secure when JY is always giving vague answers to some of her questions (Just meeting 'someone I know', I had 'some issue' that came up, I'm sorry). She's almost losing herself in it so I'm glad that SA had the courage to speak out about her insecurities and is able to break from the relationship for her own good.

 

While for JY, I definitely trust his heart for SA but the way he's hiding all his hardships is just NOT great. I think the break up is a lesson that he needs to learn on building close relationship - not only with SA but also his friends and his family. It's easy for me to say it in one sentence but it must be hell for JY during the break up - can't even imagine his heartbreak when he heard the words from SA. Our JY is one that will not take back his heart easily after he has given it  ㅠㅠ I was so worried about him after watching the ep as I cant stop thinking about how he has no one by his side to cry to. But I feel better after seeing the preview as it seems like his mum came to him and (from the voice) HH also seems to have given him some comforting words (and advice on relationship?). After all, it really helps to have someone with you when you're trying to put yourself into one piece. I'm happy that both JY and SA would have someone by their side to help them through. 

 

On the bad things of the ep (Oh I mean JK), I don't really know what to comment on her. It's just confusing to see a character that try to make her own life better by making other people miserable. Her selfishness is beyond everything else - I understand that she had a traumatic childhood, but what about 15 years of friendship with HH and JY? What about the 10 years relationship with HH? She doesn't seem to appreciate any of that with the way she hurts HH and JY so easily. She doesn't deserve any of them and I wish everyone who was hurt by her can just leave her for their own good. {Deleting JK from the friendship revival script......}

 

That's all I have to say for now and I think the ep15 preview seems promising Won't say no to the accompaniment we have been longing for

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@Sky8lue Thanks for sharing the thoughts and the insta-live video. They look so cute together (Especially when they are waving their hands). Seeing the filming coming to an end makes me feel the drama ending is actually coming close ㅠㅠ Hopefully both SA and JY can find a way to their problems internally and externally!

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6 hours ago, annamchoi said:

Subs are out in the site where I usually  watch..but will later..lunch time here on my end.(Im in charge of cooking today)

 

Saw this..can someone kind enough..what is this all about. Looks interesting.SAs future?

Much Thanks❤

 

 

Thanks for sharing the review! The reviewer has some interesting observations.

I'll just translate the part on SA's future:

 

On the scene where SA applies healing cream on her wound - it seems to indicate that SA has gained courage to heal her wound from playing violin. Letting go of violin will probably be the third brave move of SA after entering musical college and confessing to JY. After all, she has given her best effort in pursuing her classical music dream hence she doesn't have the regret for never trying it.

 

There are two characteristics of SA's appearance/dressing style:

1) She always carry the violin on her back (while JK carries it on her side) - the reviewer thinks it looks like she is carrying a baggage.

2) SA wears a dress/skirt most of the time in university while she wears pants quite a lot during her internship in Kyunghoo.

 

In ep13 when SA confronted Professor Duster, she doesn't carry any of characteristic above - she wore white shirt with black pants and didn't carry her violin. (The same dress code was mentioned during the Q&A session of Young In in the same ep - when a previous musical student has to wear such attire (as performance planner) and witness the performance of their friends from the back stage, it makes them miserable.) The reviewer thinks the choice of attire in this scene might be a hint of SA's future.

 

 

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Thanks to everyone who shares their guesses on the preview -  I'm hoping it won't be pure bitterness too

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@nana4ever JY has been a person of not sharing bad news as he doesn't like to make people worry. It's difficult to change the behavior when he has been doing it for so long. He just need to realize the change is needed if he wants his relationship with SA to last - I think we can already see his change slowly and hopefully it would come quicker in the next episode as SA will let out her frustrations with their current situation.

 

@Sneha I think the feeling of frustration is also part of the watching journey - it means one is engaged into the characters and their hardships. We still follow the latest episode anyway after all the rants LOL

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@rafeusjanela Yea I hope the story would be wrapped up properly too. I think the writer should give more time on the development of SA and JY since they are the main characters. Many people (including me) r not happy that JK gets a more complete story than all the other main characters - it's almost like she is the FL We know more about her traumatic childhood story than SA's story of grow up liking classical music.

 

 

@ferily I'm totally with you on the meaning of Traumerei to JY. There was a discussion between SA and JY surrounding the meaning of the song in the earlier ep where SA enlightened JY with the thought that the meaning of song can be different depending on the listener. For SA, it reminded her of her own dream.

 

I think JK is just self-centered to think that JY have feelings for her and the Traumerei by JY is always for her. IMO the meaning that she forced onto the song is one of the reason why JY is miserable playing piano.  It felt like she never think for anybody else but herself - even in her relationship with HH. I'm just thinking why the writer has to waste the line that JK's dad said to her "The wound that you gave other people stays with you longer". Would she just stop  I just wanna punch her in the face

 

@Melly Trw Such a heartbreaking scene. I too am frustrated that JY left at such important moment and I can hear the voice of SA's heartbreak. I feel like JY is going back to his old way of hiding the bad news from the person he likes. Although I feel bad for what is happening on him, the relationship can't go on like this. On the other hand, because SA is not aware of what's happening to JY, it deepens her impression of she's not that important for him. I'll not be surprised if the break up happens but I would feel sad as it's due to misinformation between the two.

 

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Another ep filled with rollercoaster experience 

 

One thing that I really dislike - how come there are so much coincidences that create misunderstandings between the couple? They just happened at such RIGHT time that raise another misunderstanding before the previous one is solved? (I'm talking to you writer-nim)

 

And just when I'm about to think here comes another good adult and professor, he plagiarized his student's piece the next second I guess the writer doesn't like things to be good in the main characters life.

 

I feel really really bad for JY - it seems like all people in his life just wanted him to live the way they wanted him to be (his parents, Director Na, JK, SJ, Professor Yoo). Just let the boy breath! The boy can't do what he wants to do and doesn't have enough money for himself 

 

At this stage I'm tired thinking about how everything can be solved (including the relationship), I just want SA and JY to get some rest

 

Anyway, still glad that SA finally said no to the professor, it seems like MS wanted to make up with SA again, JY creating boundaries between him and JK, SA has Young In to talk to after the "good wife" event, and SA's sister seems to be supportive of her and wanted her have a happy life. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks to everyone who shares the preview for ep13

 

@rafeusjanela Maybe tomorrow or later this week? I think there're two OSTs that haven't been released yet (which I'm aware of from the list of OST singers) - Baek A-Yeon and 10cm. 

 

PS: I feel like they will release the 10cm song this week (Please don't leave me stay with me my love~♩ ♪ ♫ ♬)

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@lovesparklys I like your comment on SA's situation - it hurts so much but it's true. I think SA is well aware of the fact that the professor doesn't really care about her violin playing but has chosen to un-see it because she desperately wanted to playing in an orchestra - so she's getting backlash from her own choice.

 

I wouldn't necessarily think that the JK's playing is better because of JY"s playing but the confidence that she has when playing with JY (I guess they have many experiences practicing together). From the master class scene, it seems like JK puts more thoughts on a piece (from the scribbles on the sheet music) compare to SA. It could be that JK grew up receiving musical education while SA has started her musical study just 8 years ago (4 yrs of trying to get in + 4 yrs of uni, minus the SRUPO time). But one would think with her love for violin, she would have learned about some of the necessary considerations while practicing a piece? 

 

So that brings itself to the doubt you have on SA's love for violin. I've seen another reviewer mentioning the same issue - that she can't relate to that as there's a lack of action. I think that is a flawed part of the show where I'm not sure why the writer has chosen to portray SA's love for violin mainly through just words - is it a mistake of SA or is it a mistake of the writer?

 

On the part where SA seems like she has never received any professional advice before - I believe she has been taught by the same professor since the past? (Not sure about this but I have a vague memory that it was mentioned before). I know nothing about the operation of musical university but I guess starting from ground zero with a professor that doesn't give constructive feedback is will not do SA any good. But that again raises the question on what has she gained from her past 4 years of uni? Could that be part of the problem of the university system?  It just left me very confused

 

@marsha G The part of your comment that mentioned Schumann scared me a bit (JY's hands are made of gold!). I think the members have to pay for their own meal? Maybe SA has already collected the money from the members beforehand?

 

PS: I wonder why HH has no screen time during the dinner as he's a member too? 

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7 hours ago, Yq Tan said:

 

Providing some not-so-accurate translation of the context Please feel free to correct me if you find any mistakes. I've skipped some parts that I think is insignificant or if I couldn't understand the context and I'm hiding the text as it is quite long

 

 

I've corrected some parts of the end of the discussion (hopefully a more accurate version). I'll put the paragraph here too:

 

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They think that what makes the viewers frustrated is that the writer has put all the burdens she can on JY (making him almost an unrealistic character) and also keep putting SA under constant pressure too. 

 

But frustration aside, it made the commentor think about what do the things we love and our life mean to us. He got the idea from the vaccine news and thinking that we also need 'vaccine' to help us to get through the difficult and bitter time in life (Just like how vaccine is used to prepare us for the disease). However, the dosage of the vaccine needs to be appropriate else it might either be insufficient for fighting the disease or death due to overdose. The characters do seems to be overdose with the 'vaccine' of life at the moment. If we could just keep the focus on how the characters could manage those difficult situations and relate it to how we would face similar situations in life, we could just relax and see how the writer would solve the rest of the story. The commentor think SA might be a reflection of the writer herself - in that she might have experienced similar situations as SA in her life before directly or indirectly. So whether if she could gain her victory as SA is also an interesting viewing point.

 

 

PS: Loving all the cute GIFs and JY's piano practice Can't wait for the new episode to be out!