Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN

[Meliere]

2 minutes ago, nearsea said:

OMG,where did you read this? Please share the link with us =]].This could be the best remedy for getting over the withdrawal lol.

I also want to stay on the same ship.Maybe we could create a new thread..co-linking to this one =/.

 

the I HAVE NO RICHARD SIMMONS CLUE WHO THE HUSBAND CONTENDERS ARE, BUT I'M WITH TAEK'S ROOM DAMN IT thread.

Here's the article. According to PD Shin,

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"After 1988, I think 1974 is another important year in contemporary history. There were many big and revolutionary events such as shooting of Yook Young Soo, opening Seoul subway, first Choco Pies, Water Gate incident, carnation, and etc. I want to make a drama that feels like looking at dusty and old photos. Simple but beautiful old days, I want to portray the youth of 386 generation. We're considering it as the next project."

 

Article says 'Reply 1974' will start to shoot in this year's summer at the earliest.

 

[salz]

9 minutes ago, Meliere said:

omg, PD shin said filming might begin as early as this summer. Hopefully there won't be a husband hunt ... but if they throw us another one ... 

I need to sign a blood oath and pledge to be on the same ship as everyone here, LOL. That's how emotionally attached I am. I love every one of you girls as much as I love suntaek. It'd be a Sartrean nightmare if I end up in the same ship as some of those hardcore JH shippers [shivering intensifies]

ehh is it confirm gonna be reply 1974? it this year gonna start?wow that so fast...i thought of get some break from any kdrama for a while but now this news lmao.what is break..

but no matter what always gonna go back to this series but im seriously tired of the husband hunt and the ridiculous shipper...and like you i don't want to be in sane ship with those scary jh shipper and their mean self i wish they just stop watching any reply if they hate the script so much and let the people appreciate it enjoy without the hate...i block so many people in twitter since it like their place to spread hate to taeksun lol im so glad i have this forum as safe place

maybe i just gonna wait until the drama end and the husband announce to start watching lol but im so impatient im fail with r88 since i want to do that but end up watching real time and drag into warzone again lol never learn my lesson since 94 but still im glad to meet you all lovely soul in this thread..

maybe im still gonna hang here or bogum forum until the feel out of my system since now the feel like lava for taeksun 

 

[nearsea]

16 minutes ago, Meliere said:

"After 1988, I think 1974 is another important year in contemporary history. There were many big and revolutionary events such as shooting of Yook Young Soo, opening Seoul subway, first Choco Pies, Water Gate incident, carnation, and etc. I want to make a drama that feels like looking at dusty and old photos. Simple but beautiful old days, I want to portray the youth of 386 generation. We're considering it as the next project."

 

Article says 'Reply 1974' will start to shoot in this year's summer at the earliest.

Wow thank you @Meliere! This sure made my day! Now we have something to look forward to.Though I'm yet too attached to deok sun and her story,but shin pd has some really amazing skills which keeps getting us hooked to his dramas.Apart from shipping the script as @packmule3 keeps saying,I ship PD-nim too..lol.*Now goes back to read rest of the news.

[otomame]

I'm browsing around Korean channels dedicated to Reply 1988 and found this compilation of DeoksunxTaek moments from episode 9 until 18, with a special focus on Deoksun's POV. I think this video really perfectly shows how Deoksun's feelings for Taek changed and developed

 

 

The one who made this video also made a JHxDS edition (which also includes clips only from epsiode 9 until 18) and I thought it's interesting that the JH video is around 10 minutes long while the Taek one is almost 18 minutes. Just goes to show that the writer really did plan this build-up the whole time (I know we don't need that proof anymore but so many people outside this thread still believe the script change bs, I just....)

I love all these compilations and fanmade videos, bless the people who made them 

@miri13 Thank you so much for the translation of the fanfics! The first one was written really well, I can totally imagine those scenes in my head haha

[kepogee]

12 hours ago, rynn_peace said:

Video "Eonamtaek! Hyeri's husband is Park Bo Gum. The deep kiss that confirms each other's hearts" has 2.075.888 views in naver

[+21.808/-3.380] Aside from who is the husband, this kiss scene makes me crazy.. the best scene throughout reply 1988

[+14.186/-2.512] I really screamed when I watched this scene.

[+11.896/-2.614] Taek~ah you're awesome

 

Sorry for cutting your post and yay thank you for the translations! But those 3 comments i left behind pretty much sums ups my feelings when it was confirmed it was really them. You go Deoksun!

10 hours ago, aleen1412 said:

Reply 1988 makes me nostalgic for late 80's South Korea. And I've never even lived there in that era. I guess this is why our withdrawal is severe. We are longing for a place that is no longer there.

 

 

Sorry for cutting your post, but i'm highlighting why i love this show, regardless who the end game is, It's the longing of a place that is no longer there. For someone, who moved out of my hometown to move to a bigger city, there's this melancholic nostalgia when i watch the last episode and Deoksun was doing the voice over. 

 

9 hours ago, Betsi Soma said:

I really wanted to know when did Taek go to the army ...like was it during those "5 years" which means he didn't see Doksun for 2 years or when they got married ><

 

I think he didn't go to the army because he won international awards for Korea?

 

8 hours ago, nearsea said:

Guys do we know  if the time at china,happened before JH's confession or not? That could explain deok sun's eager look each time the doorbell rang.

 

Correct me if i'm wrong but the timelines was this:

July 1994 > Taek went to JH's army base. 
               > Flight attendant colleague asked DS why she's not dating Taek. So we already can confirm it was always been Taek (?)

October 8 > Taek's Birthday

October 16 > Concert

October 23 > Confession

October 25 > Baduk competition and kiss scene

 

6 hours ago, Meliere said:

lol my exact plan. Shall we have a re-watch party here in Taek's room? 

 

I want to join the rewatch too.

[melleri]

Those video basically show JH->DS->TK  and of course we know TK->DS so that's why they were end game.  Now I'm also trying to decide if DS ever even had a crush on JH to begin with.  She never did really notice anything he did for her, or care that he did it.  She thought he liked her and was upset when he kept failing her tests.  When JH canceled on her, she tried hard to win him over again to prove someone loved her.  She was upset when this all went down thinking nobody would ever love her.  On the other hand, when TK canceled on her she was just upset and sad about it.   She also often times picked TK over JH while in the middle of her "crush".  She went to his room and stayed there when she could have been spending time with JH.  

I know the hardcore shippers will never change their mind, but I already see more neutral people recognizing TK/DS as the most realistic ship. So hopefully in time people can see the obvious lol 

[rynn_peace]

Video "Hyeri, in Park Bo Gum's arms! They'll never be separated" has 1.106.309 views.

LINK

Netizen's comments

[+11.421/-1.280] Taek~ah ㅠㅠ today you're really freaking awesome ㅠㅠ I can catch up on my sleep today ㅠㅠ

[+7.639/-810] ganjil ganjil.. (*burning or tickling sensation)

[+7.334/-997] DeokSuni Taeki be happy ㅠㅠ I love you ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

[+6.600/-937] Eonamtaek ♡♡ both of you are so lovely

[+6.445/-793] Ah.. I really like you.. ❤❤ so affectionate.. so cute.. I'm jealous to Deoksuni

[Kpp718]

the subs are out on dramafever. i'm feeling such dread to watch them because i'm not ready for it to be over officially. crying so hard on the inside. i'm going to get a big fuzzy blanket and wrap myself in a hug while i watch the whole thing. 

[kattkedi]

HELLO GUYS......

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR INSIGHTFUL & LOVABLE POST.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HOPE WE CAN MEET IN PARK BO GUM'S NEXT PROJECTS (I hope it's soon).

 

see you (soon) guys.................

[otomame]

12 minutes ago, melissala said:

Those video basically show JH->DS->TK  and of course we know TK->DS so that's why they were end game.  Now I'm also trying to decide if DS ever even had a crush on JH to begin with.  She never did really notice anything he did for her, or care that he did it.  She thought he liked her and was upset when he kept failing her tests.  When JH canceled on her, she tried hard to win him over again to prove someone loved her.  She was upset when this all went down thinking nobody would ever love her.  On the other hand, when TK canceled on her she was just upset and sad about it.   She also often times picked TK over JH while in the middle of her "crush".  She went to his room and stayed there when she could have been spending time with JH.  

I know the hardcore shippers will never change their mind, but I already see more neutral people recognizing TK/DS as the most realistic ship. So hopefully in time people can see the obvious lol 

After watching those compliations I'm actually convinced that the feelings Deoksun had for SW and JH weren't even real crushes. Deoksun was simply wishing for someone to love her so when her friends convinced her that SW/JH liked her she immediately clinged onto the idea of finally having someone who loves her. So, rather than liking SW or JH she simply liked the idea of having someone who loves her. My sweet middle child Deoksun ;A;

When she was "crushing" on SW and JH she did all those crazy things to get their attention and make them confess to her but when Deoksun started liking Taek she never did anything unusual to impress him or get his attention (except for wearing a skirt but that's something else). Which is a good thing, because it means Deoksun has always been her true self around Taek and that she honestly likes him out of her own will.

This couple....I love it  ಥ◡ಥ

[PBJayism]

52 minutes ago, otomame said:

I'm browsing around Korean channels dedicated to Reply 1988 and found this compilation of DeoksunxTaek moments from episode 9 until 18, with a special focus on Deoksun's POV. I think this video really perfectly shows how Deoksun's feelings for Taek changed and developed

I loved this compilation!! thanks for sharing  Though I am a little disappointed they didn't include the moment when her face softened and she smiled at Taek waiting for her with medicine or the beautiful close-up of Deoksun's face and smile as she waited for Taek right before their first kiss - because those two moments in particular revealed her heart and feelings. And for me it was all the "proof" I needed. 

One thing that gets to me is the argument that JH/DS loveline was developed far more than TK/DS. I disagree. While I would've liked more TK/DS, it's purely for my own selfish shipper reasons, not because I needed more convincing and buildup. I will say that JH's first love was far more developed but that's the key difference- it wasn't his relationship with DS that developed, just his own feelings. DS was aware of and crushed on JH for all of 4 episodes (5 if I'm being generous) so when people say that the JH/DS loveline was built-up over 18 episodes, I really just think they ignored and dismissed everything other than JH's feelings. 

I would've liked more scenes of TK overtly showing his jealousy while DS was crushing on the other guys and some heartbreaking angst over the thought that his love was probably one-sided, but in a way I also loved that he was just that confident that he'll end up with her and to him it was just a matter of timing. Though in hindsight, the fact that he was so dam.n miserable and relied on sleeping pills, was probably his own way of showing his angst.

[Camillajames]

Hoping the next reply will not be so concentrated on the husband hunt. The storyline and characters are so rich and interesting that it is more than enough to create a successful drama. I would really like to see them do this so i know that they are not so hung up on the husband guessing game. But then again..sometimes i wonder if they were right when they said it would not be too focused on the husband game and that maybe we were the ones who were deceiving ourselves bc it was always clear who the husband was but we chose to ignore it or some of us.

[kepogee]

14 minutes ago, PBJayism said:

One thing that gets to me is the argument that JH/DS loveline was developed far more than TK/DS. I disagree. While I would've liked more TK/DS, it's purely for my own selfish shipper reasons, not because I needed more convincing and buildup. I will say that JH's first love was far more developed but that's the key difference- it wasn't his relationship with DS that developed, just his own feelings. DS was aware of and crushed on JH for all of 4 episodes (5 if I'm being generous) so when people say that the JH/DS loveline was built-up over 18 episodes, I really just think they ignored and dismissed everything other than JH's feelings. 

I would've liked more scenes of TK overtly showing his jealousy while DS was crushing on the other guys and some heartbreaking angst over the thought that his love was probably one-sided, but in a way I also loved that he was just that confident that he'll end up with her and to him it was just a matter of timing. Though in hindsight, the fact that he was so dam.n miserable and relied on sleeping pills, was probably his own way of showing his angst.

 

@PBJayism AHHHHH IM SO HAPPY YOU'RE HERE!!!! *happy dance* 

Let me highlight what i love your post (huhuhuh just like good all cider days - i'll have to drag others who are taek shippers out of the hiding). 

I'm annoyed with people who are disregarding Taek's feelings, just because it's not as dramatic, it doesn't mean it's just as less. He was suffering too, but in his own way. It wasn't seen on-screen so people tend to dismiss it: his dependency with sleeping pills increased so much in the last 4/5 years hiding his love for DS. Isn't it lovely when adult!Taek said the best thing about finally dating DS is not taking sleeping pills? Makes the world a better place. 

But most importantly, i'm angry at people who never thought what DS felt: there was a clear distinction of how she reacted with SW/JH vs Taek. People just refuse to see her reactions/actions. 

[melleri]

@otomame

Yep. I always knew that SW was nothing important.  It was always about Bora.  She was jealous of her sister and mad her friend liked her sister over her. She was over that crush way too quickly for it to be anything important. The only thing that stayed was the anger at Sun Woo.  Even that she got over pretty quickly.  It was more an embarrassment to her than anything, as we can see when she tries to destroy the diary pages. She even had lasting negative emotions about that crush in the future.  But her "crush" onJunghwan wasn't even a footnote.  She didn't acknowledge she had a crush on him at all. Not in 1988-9, not in the 1994 and not in 2016.

 I did think she liked him at the time, but now I can see it was just another SW situation, but this time he actually liked her back and she wasn't so sure liked with SW that he like her back.  It was just her yearning for love more than anything. Junghwan's "love" story does not actually involve Deok-Sun at all. I don't even think now they would have worked out even if he had confessed when she was looking for love. She'd always go back to taking care of Taek and picking him over Junghwan.  

And yes, I love that she can be herself around Taek.  She never tried anything crazy to win him over.  He just loved her and she loved him back. 

[aurora1205]

In my opinion what Deok Sun wanted was not love it was acceptance just like she wanted manito more than pink gloves ^^  Deok Sun wouldn't fall for any guy you know but she crushed on his two 'close’ friend so easily because they have known her for years it means they loved her as the way she is so it's acceptance or appreciation to her character. ^^ The thing is her idea of love was limited with  romance novels that's why she couldn't connect with them as lovers. As for Taek connection was always there but she was in denial due to her low self esteem. If I say Taek has never hurt her pride I would be lying. But good thing is Deok Sun was the one who decided to stay friends so it's not something Taek would change in instant while she was not ready for risking her space in Taek's heart. Just like Taek's solace was Deok Sun, Deok Sun's solace  was Taek too everytime she had dumped and lost confidence. Actually she opened up to Taek when everything went downhill in her life. She felt the urge to be with Taek, she couldn't help but watching him sleeping and it was enough for her. Deok Sun back then had no choice but to lie about kiss oh poor girl  :/  Fortunately nobody knows Deok Sun better than Taek that's how they were able to cross the line ^^

[mangachickava]

14 minutes ago, melissala said:

@otomame

Yep. I always knew that SW was nothing important.  It was always about Bora.  She was jealous of her sister and mad her friend liked her sister over her. She was over that crush way too quickly for it to be anything important. The only thing that stayed was the anger at Sun Woo.  Even that she got over pretty quickly.  It was more an embarrassment to her than anything, as we can see when she tries to destroy the diary pages. She even had lasting negative emotions about that crush in the future.  But her "crush" onJunghwan wasn't even a footnote.  She didn't acknowledge she had a crush on him at all. Not in 1988-9, not in the 1994 and not in 2016.

 I did think she liked him at the time, but now I can see it was just another SW situation, but this time he actually liked her back and she wasn't so sure like with SW that he like her back.  It was just her yearning for love more than anything. Junghwan's "love" story does not actually involve Deok-Sun at all. I don't even think now they would have worked out even if he had confessed when she was looking for love. She'd always go back to taking care of Take and picking him over Junghwan.  

And yes, I love that she can be herself around Taek.  She never tried anything crazy to win him over.  He just loved her and she loved him back. 

 

Melissala I am so happy you are coming to these points. The master post on the first page has some great links that support and reaffirm your thoughts!

TK was always number one for DS as shown but the manitto game where she kept saying over and over again that she wishes TK to have her and not JH...she also ends up picking TK's gift over JH. 

JH birthday dinner...again DS was more focused on TK and him watching porn then the birthday boy

Again DR convo with DS summarized it the best that SW and JH are the same for her...but TK is special. 

I knew that TK would be a husband because the writer was not exploring the idea of TK not being in DS life if she were to choose JH over him. As DS said it herself, she could not lose TK's friendship. So when that possibility was never explored by the writer it showed that their relationship would never end. JH confession was heartbreaking, but the thought of the scene where TK and DS can no longer hold hands like the way they always have ( talk about that beach scene among the many) would be utterly devastating for both DS and TK relationship and the writer never built the story to deal with that! 

Even in 1994 DS found a way to be in TK work life by setting up her friend with is manager, no mentions of her doing the same with JH.....

JH flashbacks and actions reminded me a lot of CB and his glances at NJ ( anyone remember the beach scene where he was sleeping beside her??) and Joon hee in 97 and his forbidden love. All three of these characters left lasting sad confessions/first loves.

A lot of the "babying" aspects of TK like not tying his shoes, or doing daily tasks properly are actually taken by Lee Chang Ho's life. Because in Korea, people would be aware of these funny traits and still respect him as a genius ( hello richest baduk player...holds press conference for wedding) they wouldnt quickly attack DS for "mothering" him the way that international JH shippers have. 

I really think have baduk so heavily embedded in the show caused there to be cultural disconnect with some international viewers to the point that when TK shippers highlighted them we would be called delusional when contrary most people in Korea would be aware of the symbolism .

 

 

 

[13infamyss]

3 hours ago, melissala said:

@13infamyss

As someone who shipped JH/DS for about half the drama, those scenes (the I'll seduce him and I'll marry him) at the time were mostly ignored because JH WAS THE HUSBAND.  They were throwaway scenes that were jokes, but looking at the clues again (and packmule was totally right all the "weddings" that TK/DS had), then it becomes obvious. The writer actually beat it over our heads that DS would marry Taek.  I think that's the big problem with some people is that they viewed the drama through JH's and didn't pay any attention to anything else.  They'll get offended if you tell them that though, but that's what "blinded by the husband hunt" means. 

I agree. Most of the times we overlooked little things like these scenes and brush them off as "trolls" being thrown at us by the director and writer. That's the price we had to pay for the fun in looking for clues and hints of who the husband is. I mean they're super interesting - that's the reason why most of us here have been a big fan of Reply series since 1997. We enjoy looking for clues here and there to justify that this man and not that other man is the husband. It brings so much stress (emotionally and physically - I wake up at crack of dawn just to watch this live), but we still end up being sucked in to the husband hunting game. In exchange for that kind of fun, we missed out on the opportunities to see the characters' inner feelings and struggles whenever they allow us in to their thoughts. For example, that scene from Ep 10 about the boys teasing Duk Seon to marry Taek. We brushed it off as a troll, but little did we know that we were actually given an access to what and how Duk Seon see Taek as - that she doesn't see him as a blood-related family at all, and in her eyes, whoever marries him is one lucky girl. I mean, this is a discussion she had with her bestfriends, it's got to matter somehow.

It's also funny that she gets offended (twice it happened) to know that Taek would only marry her as a last resort. Her mom in Ep 6 said it's possible that they might end up together since Taek knew no other girls, but only Baduk. And she had her antenna up asking "Why, what's wrong with me?!". And then in Ep 10 when Don Ryong said Taek should consider going out with her to experience life difficulties. That's the only time she raised her voice to object to their jokes and said "HEY!". She didn't like the idea that people see her as no match for Taek - ironically, I found it odd that she said she`d be lucky to marry him. Even if she meant that as a joke. Shouldn't it be the the other way around? She should have said to Taek "Consider yourself lucky, I`ll look after you for the rest of my life". Instead she, too, agreed that she'd have more benefits from marrying him. Her low-self esteem is soo deep, she breaks my heart.

2 hours ago, Meliere said:

 

BTW @13infamyss WELCOME BACK!! omg I missed you. I've always looked forward to your insightful posts. <3

 

Ahhhh~ thank you! Hopefully we could discover more things that makes Taek and Duk Seon's relationship so beautiful as we re-watch the series over and over. I`m sure I`m not the only one here still going over their scenes together. I`m going through such a major withdrawal right now; it will take a while for me to get over the fact that this drama is done. Usually my withdrawals are over by the time I own a physical copy of a drama, so that means it will take me months and months to get over Reply 1988. So I`ll most likely camp out here to read and talk about Taek and Duk Seon with you guys till I get my BluRay. ^___^ 

 

2 hours ago, Meliere said:

 

the I HAVE NO RICHARD SIMMONS CLUE WHO THE HUSBAND CONTENDERS ARE, BUT I'M WITH TAEK'S ROOM DAMN IT thread.

 

2 hours ago, salz said:

ehh is it confirm gonna be reply 1974? it this year gonna start?wow that so fast...i thought of get some break from any kdrama for a while but now this news lmao.what is break..

but no matter what always gonna go back to this series but im seriously tired of the husband hunt and the ridiculous shipper...and like you i don't want to be in sane ship with those scary jh shipper and their mean self i wish they just stop watching any reply if they hate the script so much and let the people appreciate it enjoy without the hate...i block so many people in twitter since it like their place to spread hate to taeksun lol im so glad i have this forum as safe place

maybe i just gonna wait until the drama end and the husband announce to start watching lol but im so impatient im fail with r88 since i want to do that but end up watching real time and drag into warzone again lol never learn my lesson since 94 but still im glad to meet you all lovely soul in this thread..

 

 

OMG 1974! We're totally going back in time, like that's not even my era (I just did the math and OMG, my mom was only 12 at that time!)

We were skeptical about 1988 and how it was going to attract the viewers, yet the director and writer had shown their magic once again. So I`m sure 1974 will be something we're going to be crazy about too!

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Anyway guys, here's how I survived all Reply series so far and how I was always on point in who ends up with who. I mean it might take me a long time to figure it out, but I always get the right endgame couple before the series ends (be it drama, manga, or anime). I weigh which loveline spent most of the time growing together. That's always the main factor - growth development of the couple. I look at which scenes the main girl is most happy and comfortable to be with. The angst should only be a secondary factor. The main reason why we love someone is because we're happy and content with that person regardless of the drama it brings us. So happiness and comfort in the relationship should definitely be greater than angst.

This was my problem with Reply 1988, just like Duk Seon I've been jumping around between guys until the end of Ep 16. She didn't know her true feelings, and that's why I didn't know mine either. I was rooting for Sun Woo at first and then Jung Hwan stole the scenes from him. I patiently waited until Duk Seon reciprocated his feelings, but I got so frustrated because the show wasn't giving me what I wanted. And then, I noticed that Taek and Duk Seon's scenes always brought smile to my face the more I got frustrated with Jung hwan and Duk Seon's progress. I ended up looking forward to Taek and Duk Seon's scenes together as the story progressed. By the end of Ep 16, it brought me to tears that Duk Seon was already in love. Like finally! I've waited so long to see her react that way. I rewatched the scenes of her and the boys after Ep 16, and saw that she spent most of the time with Taek - both of them were growing not only individually, but together as well. That's when I first had the gut feeling he might be the husband. 

As for the ship wars, well it comes with Reply series now, or any other series that have unknown couple. We will always try to reason out why this couple we ship is the endgame, and not the other couple. It's really hard when things get ugly with ship wars, it takes away the fun of the drama and couple endgame hunt, but what can you do. We're always emotionally invested in the stories that are just wonderfully written. You'll get used to it over time. I did, now I just ignore posts with baseless accusations and arguments, keeping in mind that I`m watching a series or reading a manga/novel for fun.

[pixiemoondust]

Just finished watching Episode 19. Can we discuss about the first kiss and what DS meant about the word "awkward"? The word is so heavy and fraught with meaning. It's been niggling at me for a while now. Did she mean, if she'd confronted TK about it then and there.. he'd dismiss it as something trivial like a child's play? She'd already dismissed herself as nobody when TK ditched their date. Was that it.. was she afraid to find out it wasn't anything special? Or she wasn't anything special to TK? You're hogu, like Ja Hyun said to her. Apart from living her own life/experience things young adults do, was dating a lot of guys her driving force to show TK she was worth it? What do you think?

[gilaswan]

Did the actors themselves know who DeokSun was going to end up with?

[gilaswan]

6 hours ago, Dramaniac said:

<video of HyerixBoGum BTS deleted.

 

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPP

This video is so sweeeeeet... *sigh* PBG is such a sweetie boy... Really charming smile. And the beach scene - the two characters were so comfortable with each other. How could anyone not see that she would end up with him?