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[freckledcontessa]

3 hours ago, eunki said:

I was OK with the ending but unfortunately DVD news came today right after I watched ep.20 and it killed my day(( I agree that ML is a great love story and sometimes love cannot win over life, but nevertheless this ending is so cruel  I will put my lamenting in a spoiler, just need to write it out..

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HS lived in an alien era, was tortured and betrayed, made hips of wrong decisions but always tried to keep her principles and be a good person. Finally she was able to be with the man she truly loved, but it very soon came out that indeed love is not enough. She left WS, lived missing him every moment and wished to see him one more time, but died with a doubt if WS resented her till the end. She woke up as GHJ and seemed to be quite happy except having nightmares, but JM had to come with a cryptic face and force her memories. So she ended up with crying in front of the picture feeling sorry and guilty and supposedly again longing for that man who died 1000years ago....the end. 

WS was abused as a child and treated as an animal until he met HS, the one who taught him love. It took him several years of sacrifice, rejections, humiliation, desperation to finally gain her heart but eventually he made a decision that he needs power as well. He succeeded and became the king, however very soon it came out that he couldn't have both power and love. He was forced to marry the woman he didn't love, to kill people close to ones he loved. Finally he was forced to let HS go for reasons he could not understand, jealousy and anger deprived him of a chance to see his love before she died so he had to live long years with this guilt and regrets. Left by everybody, WS in despair promises to find his Soo... the end.

If I saw HS died and didn't wake up as GHJ, and WS died saying Soo name that's the end, sad but ok. If they showed their meeting in modern time, even only 5minutes that's fine. But they chose to leave them suffering endlessly both so miserable and desperate!! And the fact that we all know they filmed that scene just makes me mad. Piggyback is beautifully done and I was happy to see them happy, but to think about WS lines when he denied that life is fleeting- I was telling him back "no, WS, your father was right, life IS fleeting, your happiness will last less than a year and then you'll be suffering till you die and HS will be suffering till she dies and even after she dies!" And I will suffer with you, poor me 

 

 

I cried reading the text you wrote in the spoiler. I do not know your location, i wish you are near so i can hug you. Instances like this, geography is a richard simmons. Please know that i do not pity you, i totally understand, and it's normal. This phase will pass.

[antiherofans]

24 minutes ago, andy78 said:

me too i want the same otp...nobodyelse could replace them!!!

 

Replacing the OTP is the worst decision ever

 

[eunki]

18 minutes ago, freckledcontessa said:

 

I cried reading the text you wrote in the spoiler. I do not know your location, i wish you are near so i can hug you. Instances like this, geography is a richard simmons. Please know that i do not pity you, i totally understand, and it's normal. This phase will pass.

Thank you so much for your compassion)) Don't worry, I'll be alright  It's just that I became bipolar with this drama- one day happy, next day miserable  but yes, I suppose this phase will pass

[lanjung]

Seem like this film not only make our heart broken by it's script but also make our heart torn in reality.  I used to crying so much then, and now I'm feeling sad that our actors can not received what They deserve to have. 

if they reslease the DVD without uncut scenes, Which idiots want to buy those dvd when they can download on the internet. Those Poeple hate this film or too stupid???

I feel so sad for this drama ... 

[sooji28]

Thanks @ruizaio for the updates, and i thank you and all the teams for the effort. Chin up.  

[hobeverly1212]

How credible is that news of replacement and even a season 2?
 

And really no DVD???? 

[briseis]

This video shows a tour around the island

 

[makino92]

@ilovecoffeeandbooks It can't end like this D: we should do anything D: we should send thousands of postcards TT_______TT  

[hobeverly1212]

sorry...i didnt get the mail...so whats this project/thing about keep trying and postcard???

[junejungki]

@ruizaioThis is really sad. How can the director can completely ignore our voice. What else can we do?? We tried so hard. 

[ruizaio]

On 11/25/2016 at 0:22 PM, ilovecoffeeandbooks said:

Okay! So an update on the Postcard Project!! So I was thinking December 5th would be a good day for everyone to mail out their postcards... I think that sending them individually will have a big impact and if we send on the same day, they should arrive around the same time so hopefully it will bring notice! I am totally willing to change things though, I truly have little idea of what I'm doing!! (if anyone wants to take over, go for it!) I put a sample wording on their (thank you @sublimelyheureuse) but I obviously don't have any Korean translation for anything, so if someone wants to take that on so that the companies can actually read what we write, that would be great!!  I love you guys!

(btw, I made this in MS paint, so be gentle... I have no computer skills)

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The Korean fans on DC are thinking of doing this as well, soecifically targeting the ending with Wang So and Ha Jin in the present. 

[ilovecoffeeandbooks]

2 hours ago, hobeverly1212 said:

sorry...i didnt get the mail...so whats this project/thing about keep trying and postcard???

We're doing a Postcard Project where we basically send postcards to the production companies (hopefully a lot of us will do it so it is overwhelming and they FEEL OUR LOVE!!!) to thank them for the show, tell them how much we love it, and ask for them to release the DVD/special episode/second season/movie. I'm working on getting a few simple phrases translated into Korean so people can write them on there. For now, here's the information:

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36 minutes ago, ruizaio said:

 

The Korean fans on DC are thinking of doing this as well, soecifically targeting the ending with Wang So and Ha Jin in the present. 

YAY!!! I really hope they do! If we band together, maybe we'll get results!!

Thank you for always keeping us informed about the Korean fans... it's greatly appreciated!  We stand united!

[sosooyah19]

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15 minutes ago, ilovecoffeeandbooks said:

We're doing a Postcard Project where we basically send postcards to the production companies (hopefully a lot of us will do it so it is overwhelming and they FEEL OUR LOVE!!!) to thank them for the show, tell them how much we love it, and ask for them to release the DVD/special episode/second season/movie. I'm working on getting a few simple phrases translated into Korean so people can write them on there. For now, here's the information:

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YAY!!! I really hope they do! If we band together, maybe we'll get results!!

Thank you for always keeping us informed about the Korean fans... it's greatly appreciated!  We stand united!

so any "related somewhat" postcard will do?

will wait for the korean translate so we could include it...

[sosooyah19]

7 hours ago, lanjung said:

oh my God, at last, I can login àfter over 1 week just read and confuse.

May be my english is not good enough to understand. But they said this " they fear the actors won't agree to release their publicity rights for them(which is total BS)" . what that means? BS means behind the scene?? the actors (Lee Jun Gi, IU, Jong Jong Huyn, KHN..v..v.. don't want to show others behind the scene except those already shown??? am I right? If that, I think we should respect their will.

Correct me if I'm wrong!!!

 

BS means bullsh*t... BTS is behind the scene...

we just have to wait for news.. i dont think actor's wont agree because it will help their publicity more rather than ruin it...

7 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

@ruizaio -- Thank you and the team for all your efforts in this. I can't say I'm not disappointed and I really don't understand why K production companies are so reluctant to release special edition DVDs. Perhaps there's not a lot of money in it for them and they're ready to move on to the next project. 

Well, if they're not interested in my money, I suppose I can direct it towards something else.  To be honest I was prepared to pay good money for it and as someone who is living down under, I would be paying quite a lot including shipping.

It's a shame really. DVDs often can find new audiences which lead to cult followings. It's often the case with US sci-fi shows. 

im saving up for it.. im still hoping....

[sosooyah19]

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12 hours ago, NitaA said:

For OST addict out there and loving both the Moon dramas..... Please check it out,....

 

so nice....great voices... i want an acapella of all the songs in MLSHR... i would love to have an album like that.. hahaha

[makino92]

Ok I think we should let the other international fans know about the postcards project by posting the flyer on Facebook, Twitter ect but Facebook pages with many likes should post it and Twitter profiles with many followers as well. 

The Facebook pages must be related to the drama X°D or the ones that talk about dramas 

[realmsoflove]

I become afraid every time we meet. I know that I had feelings for another. So why is it that I can’t let you go and ignore you?

I want to talk about Soo for awhile. Episode 12 was the episode that made me think “Yes. Soo is definitely in love with So.”

I think one of the reasons the lovelines were contentious is that they overlapped. There was no clean break. Soo didn’t stop having feelings for Wook, and then start having feelings for So – her feelings for So began while she had feelings for Wook. Based on episode 11, and the spoilers about something happening that would change the nature of Soo and Wook’s relationship forever, I thought Wook turning his back on Soo when she needed him the most was going to result in the swift death of that ship.

But it didn’t… not quite. Soo’s own words reflect that the events surrounding Lady Oh’s death solidified So’s presence in her heart, but they didn’t deliver the anticipated killing blow to her relationship with Wook. I was puzzled and dismayed by this at first. Why go so far as to show Wook literally turning his back on Soo, only for her to still have romantic feelings for him?

I think Soo was willing to give Wook a pass for not being there for her because she saw first-hand what happened to people who defied the king. Lady Oh died, even though Taejo loved her. So was sent away. Soo herself became a laundry maid. Soo didn’t know Wook didn’t come for her because he was covering up Yeon-hwa’s wrongdoings. As far as she knew, he couldn’t throw everything away and come for her – and given what happened to people who did, she couldn’t hold that against him.

In episode 13, she finds out otherwise. Wook wants the throne. He wanted to kill So. He used her and tested her, and tried to pretend it was for her sake. Soo saw through it, and that’s what kills her love for him – his desire for the throne, the fact he wanted to kill someone dear to her (even though he knew she blamed herself for Lady Oh’s death), and that he was lying about his own motivations. That was it. They were done.

This brings me to Soo’s reaction to Chae-ryung’s death. I know a lot of people felt like Soo’s reaction was overblown, and she should have been more understanding. I’m not sure. (This is an instance where the related deleted scenes probably would have made Soo’s reaction a lot easier to understand, because it would have given us more insight into their friendship.) It’s easy to say that So had to punish Chae-ryung and from the perspective of a monarch, it was the right thing to do (which it was) – but if I were to travel back in time to a place like Goryeo, I would probably feel just as horrified as Soo. I think she viewed Chae-ryung as not culpable because of her status in life, and I think that’s partially why Soo can’t understand So’s punishment – she told him, much earlier in the drama, that the people above should look out for the people below. No one ever looked out for Chae-ryung. I’m not trying to absolve Chae-ryung, but I think her position had a lot to do with Soo’s reaction.

And now, Soo is much, much, much more emotionally invested in her relationship with So than she ever was in her relationship with Wook. She probably knows she’s pregnant. So is the love of her life – but she still cares about other people, and feels responsible for them. What can she do?

Enter Wook’s punishment. I totally understand why people were upset about Soo kneeling for Wook, despite everything he had done. I was furious at him all over again when I rewatched episodes 14 and 16 – how dare Wook sneer at the possibility of anyone (eg. Soo) being upset over So’s wedding, and how dare he give Yo the idea to use So as his dog. What a sore loser. But Soo wasn’t privy to any of that. She was appalled to realize Wook wanted to kill So, and was disgusted when she realized Wook’s involvement in Mu’s poisoning and Eun and Soon-duk's deaths… but she wasn’t privy to Wook’s nastier moments in the same way the audience was. I often felt like the audience assessment of Soo not having the “right” reactions stemmed from us having the full picture, and Soo not having the full picture.

I’m of the opinion that Soo’s reaction to Wook’s punishment had much more to do with So than it did with Wook. She’s over Wook. She doesn’t think he deserves a free pass. By begging for Wook’s life, she’s trying to save So’s soul. She doesn’t want him to become the bloody monarch history declares him to be. She doesn’t want him to descend any further. I know it seems like Soo gave everyone chances except for So… but I think it’s because she’s so emotionally invested in their relationship, and loves him so much, that she expects more from him. Their relationship in Goryeo was doomed because he couldn’t understand her perspective, and she could never fully assimilate and throw away her 21st century morals. But I don’t think that their relationship was toxic, or that she didn’t love him enough, or he didn’t love her enough. I think it was a matter of timing.

Rewatching the last few minutes of Ha-jin crying over the portrait of Gwangjong makes me feel sad for her all over again. I'm extrapolating from what little we know of her backstory, honestly (once again - I'd love to see the deleted scenes that elaborated upon it, cough cough) but I kind of got the feeling that Ha-jin was actually lonely and had a bit of an inferiority complex - that she never received the depth of love she extended to others (until she met So). And that's partially why she had difficulty coming to terms with her feelings for him. All of a sudden, she was the first priority of this incredibly loving, imperfect person. And who was she, that he would put his life on the line for her?

On a completely different note, if we can’t have a director’s cut DVD, I hope the production team releases a photobook. All the photos in the PD Note are so gorgeous… it would be a shame not to release them.

Edited November 28, 2016 by realmsoflove

[zshinymoon]

Hi Eclipse....

 hope you guys enjoy this  hea soo & wang so mv.♡♡

 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2016 by zshinymoon

[itzibitzispider]

I am not sure if I should thank @ruizaio or dislike ... naa I like ruizaio ... and I am gratful to be included
but my heart was so desperately to avoid this thread, as I miss you and MLSHR so bad ...

I so need to rewatch, specially as I dreamed about SoSoo last night ... *sigh*

As I said I avoided the thread
Did they say something about the movie they promised?
Remember to mention me when you find out or PN me if I missed something

Miss ya all ... glad I saw a few in another thread ... I was looking forward to Lee MinHos ne drama, can't even bare to watch that ... I am ruined

[ilovecoffeeandbooks]

2 hours ago, sosooyah19 said:

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so any "related somewhat" postcard will do?

will wait for the korean translate so we could include it...

I think at this point, any postcard will do! I'm going to be sending in a postcard from where I live so they can see how all over the world the fans are! I actually asked my coworker who just went on vacation in Brazil to bring back blank postcards so I can send those in too (I know, I'm cheating!) I hope to have the translations by the end of today!

1 hour ago, makino92 said:

Ok I think we should let the other international fans know about the postcards project by posting the flyer on Facebook, Twitter ect but Facebook pages with many likes should post it and Twitter profiles with many followers as well. 

The Facebook pages must be related to the drama X°D or the ones that talk about dramas 

That's a great plan!! I asked my coworker today to translate some phrases (super basic since I didn't want to be demanding towards her) so as soon as I get those, I will update the flyer and we can post it around!! It was actually quite embarrassing to ask for her help, since my drama obsession is kept on the down low at work (I work at an elementary school in Washington state... not exactly kdramaland here). Oh the things I do for this show......