Guest Yamapi77 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 wow lovekin you never fail to get us back to reality haha Before reading you post, I was going to write that the lyrics just screamed Hyun! I mean, no one can doubt that the lyrics has alot to do with his WGM experience but your right that it could be just a dedication to first time lovers. But if you really think about it, why does he go through such length to write this song? I mean he spent months on it and then he released it under his own name and not CNBlues!? and by the tone of his voice in the song, he sounds so sweet like he is singing it to the one he loves.. Sorry I might get my imagination get to me, we definitely need you (lovekin) to bring us back to reality. haha Thank you to Madmountainman and kay77 for the Korean translations and other gogumas who are not korean but tried hard to get us the English translations, you are greatly appreciated too! and Also I like to thank all the gogumas, lurkers and posters, for making this forum the best ever! I just wanted to add my name to the list. I'm from New Jersey, America! (gosh, I really wanted to move on with my life, but yongseo keeps giving me surprises...what to do! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvtokki Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Yup, yup, yup - I'm a guy! I thought I made that clear in my first post, so I went back - all the way to page 1001 - and found my 1st post: "I'm in the good ol' USA and I got interested in SNSD through my daughter, who played their songs and dance routines endlessly. Finally, I got hooked also. I loved their enthusiasm, endless talent and interesting dance routines. Then I found out Seobaby was in W*G*M with Yo~ng. And I got hooked on them, also. I've watched every episode, usually with a wide smile on my face! This is truly a 'drama' about love. The hard rocker and the princess. Will he be able to melt her innocent heart? I certainly hope so! These 2 give off the feeling of 'first love'. I wish them the best and seriously hope they can find a way to stay together after W*G*M stops filming. I believe in these two and that they can overcome all odds with their honesty and their love for each other." But i didn't, did I? Didn't say I was a 'Dad'! But it doesn't matter here in Go-chun, whether we're white or black or yellow or green, man or woman, old or young. We're all in love with Yong and Hyun, and in love with the idea of Yong WITH Hyun, so our love makes us equal and we all have a right to say what we think or feel, as long as it isn't mean or disrespectful. That's the power of goguma love! Yong's 'Song for First Time Lovers' topped all the charts! The honest, simple and sweet love song conquered all doubters and nay-sayers. Sones and Boices came together with Yongseo lovers and showed the power of goguma love to the max by buying Yong's love song and hitting every website that mentioned it. We can really be proud of Yong's accomplishment and of our support for him. I hope he takes the money from the sales of this song and buys her a WEDDING RING YAHHHH!!! Saturday will be DAEBAK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wallpaperfood Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 kerube-chan, if yong ever won for digital single sales for banmal song, he had better thank SEO JOO HYUN in his speech! ^^ On the day, gogumas all around the world will be live streaming to see if he does. hehe *imagination* lovekin, uri reality check, I like that the origins lie with Hyun and his experiences with her. For the sake of spazzing though, I'm going to go with yamapi77 - that the song screams Hyun! muahaha. Clearly, he had started it way back during WGM, and he even said on the show, to her, that it was with her in mind (well, he practically meant that). In fact, now I know why he stuffed up the duet recording so many times. He had his own lyrics in mind already, and found it hard to chang to the duet version's on the spot. WOw I can't wait till today's ep, although it's going to be the one all kkapliners have been dreading (my heart goes out to them ="( ). I wonder what Yong's secret "habit" is. It can't be "not reading", as that's not a habit. I can't think of anything else that would be a changed habit, from what I've seen . Maybe it's respsonding to nicknames? He might not have responded to "Yong~" in other situations, perhaps? gosh Yongseo always gets me guessing... can't live stream today because I have to supervise my lil bro's bday party! urrrgh!!!! I'll be 3 hours behind for spazzing! wertyhjkgbfdcvbn >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Faith_memory Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 hello there ever so loving goguma villagers!! keke! i just wanna announce something for FILIPINO GOGUMAS... keke ♥ FILIPINO GOGUMAS let's all reunite and build a yongseo community in the Philippines! Just wanna invite you all to our PinoyExchange Forum: YongSeo thread. wuhoo.. we can spazz with ease.. keke ♥ Let us all celebrate! Yonghwa deserves those No. 1 SPOTS.. all-kill as they all say. Gosh talented man indeed, just for his wife. ♥ I hope he can retain that spot..♥ don't forget to buy the single.. pre-order. I'm still looking for a place to order here in the phillipnes.. 'am still praying to find one. Will yonghwa perform the song?? hmmmnn..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest soshisoshisoshi Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hi there!!! so finally the song achieved an ALL-KILL right??? Yonghwa is a really genius musician....... Oh lovekin and yamapi77 , after reading your posts, I came to a conclusion, which I think both your posts are correct, but I just need to elaborate it more.... This song was personally made by Yong, DEFINITELY inspired by his experience with Seohyun in WGM...... if not Seohyun, who else right???? I'm more inclined to the fact that since they didn't promote the song together, the song needed to be generalized more by Yong, and that's why he "changed" the song's name to "For First-Time Lovers", and some parts of the lyrics seem to portray the song that way. This is what I believe Lovekin is saying.......... But then, in the end, he kept the original lyrics in the first place, because it was his intention from the very beginning to write the song about this "Banmal Relationship". I think we already know about this well, because THAT was his original message through the song right?? So I agree ti Yamapi77's post as well So in my opinion, I think Yong actually wanted to keep Seohyun's lyrics but because FNC didn't allow him to do so (copyright??), so he made another lyrics and that made him to generalize the song by 'DEDICATING the song to all FIRST-TIME lovers"................ Do you get what I mean?? you should read the lyrics and you'll know what I mean.... Oh well, I'll just enjoy the song thinking that it's really dedicated to Hyun since it's his intention from the very beginning, although people may see it in a different way...... lovekin..... thanks for making us go back into reality, and we're glad that you posts your thoughts here to stop this delusional and biased mind from taking over my body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MountainMadman Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Less than two more hours to go! And like I said...I'll be translating again from this week onwards, so don't go away after the episode's over...chances are I'll have my translations up in a couple hours. And today's another double-update day for Love Story! LOVE STORY, EPISODE 63: BEFORE THE DAWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jitluvyongseo Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Less than two more hours to go! And like I said...I'll be translating again from this week onwards, so don't go away after the episode's over...chances are I'll have my translations up in a couple hours. to MOUNTAINMADMAN I will open this thread as well as WGM streaming live..... because i know there still have someone will translate today episode... keep waiting streaming live but there's need 2 hour more. I know MountainMadman didn't dissapointed me about translation.... Thank u for your hardwork of translation.... Goguma lover!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YSforever Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I have mix feelings regarding to today's episode..excited to see YongSeo but sorry to say goodbye to Adam couple. best wishes to the Adam couple and kkapliners! Also, I'm posting the updated country list of goguma fans earlier today coz it's Saturday! posts will flood in here soon. The deadline of collecting nickname/country is Jan 18th. AUSTRALIA 1. Wallpaperfood 2. Goguma1207 3. maybelove 4. ck1Oz BOLIVIA 1. yonghwa BRAZIL 1. Dollua 2. BiIH BRUNEI 1. mje411 2. Soshimunky BULGARIA 1. Parisita CAMBODIA 1. T-e-z-u-k-A CANADA 1. Goguma 06 2. intoxd 3. sweetcandy1061 4. mklavo2 (Im from canada..but am i filipino) 5. gogumacraze 6. MQPheartsYS 7. Yma 8. YongSeoForever 9. gmanalangster (I was born in the Philippines but living in Canada) CHILE 1. magdal CHINA 1. Icyychong 2. camjenny COLOMBIA 1. DJHinata FRANCE 1. French_Neko 2. Ae-Rin 3. Nat-sshi GERMANY 1. Trent 2. aurora82 3. Nett_Prinzessin 4. Krissylia 5. th. GUATEMALA 1. SeLeNe_Alai07 INDIA 1. Rushgiri (Currently living in Malaysia) 2. gauri92 INDONESIA 1. K1L1On1Mr4 2. soshisoshisoshi 3. Puge2 4. zero_one 5. starsundaepower 6. MissBarbietch_0106 7. rRelina 8. isomerkyaa 9. transformer86 10. nadihee 11. likelove8993 12. neviza 13. maggiemeisje 14. niiychan 15. deep_sea 16. bee_ichigo 17. ayanapunya 18. ainigoguma 19. gita_cinta 20. justbulan 21. luv_yesung 22. pen(..^^..) 23. Deeana55 24. LennieYongseo 25. dezadee 26. bamz 27. karenliez 28. Erythrina 29. morningblue 30. R4TU 31. aeria9 32. daphneedel 33. yoreizei 34. lain_laen 35. rere25 36. vmasterpiece 37. dhedhede 38. aoi_enma 39. rumwow 40. kyung16 41. yongseocouple 42. pikoo 43. Nepp 44. sequoi 45. lovelynaa 46. mrsjoker 47. laila-chan 48. wa2kingkong 49. yongieaddict 50. nafa_yongseo 51. ichigo_kawai 52. gembul10 53. blackcat_kim ITALY 1. carrots98 2. charmkitz15 3. Stefania JAPAN 1. Durianzi KOREA 1. MountainMadman 2. sprinkle_kitty (I'm Korean but i was born in the US) LITHUANIA 1. Nettaya MALAYSIA 1. LiyLiy14 2. munie87 3. Hapiangle 4. Hanum (alah91) 5. Avelyn 6. shml 7. rieyzajunkisshi 8. Dontwhy 9. kiddywiddy 10. twinkystar 11. faraashah 12. mambo7 13. lisa628 14. alah91 15. hafiq890 16. areu1510 17. pau-chan 18. genevieveshaun 19. isomerkyaa 20. zealous 21. ayutie 22. yongseo_fighting 23. melibu 24. aallyyaa 25. nikijenlo 26. bluebubblebee 27. manimani25 (I'm Malaysian but I live in Tokyo) 28. ahelasumi 29. fittif 30. bubbly_zu 31. nazweena 32. yaya_ismail 33. adriana_kian86 34. eastlight 35. waniey_haha 36. ummihany 37. winnieho 38. Jess22803 MEXICO 1. anatisha 2. bluesu NETHERLANDS 1. Seoshi.Love 2. Aisuo415 3. Msashnak PANAMA 1. Kerube-Chan PARAGUAY 1. Dinatale (Nataly) PERU 1. lizsch 2. fabiistar07 3. crystal_malfoy 4. sixpence16 PHILIPPINES 1. bezbezbez 2. just_a_dream 3. Faith_memory 4. hawie829 5. gmanalangster 6. xxraqSTAR 7. yeobo 8. cooleet 9. bettechai 10. rainie029 11. myblue 12. luv1822 13. hannahgarrido 14. buge1087 15. glennpaulo 16. ematot 17. gogumaforever 18. biiianx 19. masamii 20. enahs124ever 21. bluenix_me 22. revgail 23. lookah 24. eishazumi 25. jazziejec 26. one_isa 27. loybing 28. Xanshi 29. bizzie_b 30. digidigibob 31. CallMeDayDreamer 32. SophiaPia 33. unnieria 34. ladygahee 35. belle_ivy 36. eran_31 37. pretty_92868 38. magicaL.chubi3 39. lookah 40. hazelnut 41. uolam21 42. arwenarya POLAND 1. kasia3goguma PUERTO RICO 1. lunasol ROMANIA 1. ancaemma10 SAUDI ARABIA 1. amalmal SINGAPORE 1. zXavier 2. yongseo_forever 3. sherlyn275 4. chilipadi_22 5. Aki_yongseo 6. Applehaven 7. roy_lover 8. genevieveshaun 9. wishwash 10. jo_ce_lyn 11. babypillow 12. blurkimchi (Kimberlyn Tan) 13. yongseorockin 14. pinkksoupp 15. whitezephyr 16. oceanprince 17. pink2loveful 18. tpy01 19. wting89 20. Glitterspark 21. tangyberry 22. YongSeo 23. l1nn3 24. redtulip 25. andalasa 26. lovekim 27. tripplemama 28. Yukilovesyou 29. hallyucraze 30. Deeomfg 31. woollylamb 32. Norabella 33. mach8infinity 34. jastubee 35. ningyit 36. sapphire18 37. mochiling 38. norabella 39. starsapphire 40. hilaria 41. aleanasha 42. oops08 43. shadow_of_Atum 44. xia_87 SPAIN 1. Hesperide SWEDEN 1. ♥♥PowerOf9 TAIWAN 1. YSforever 2. Phoebechiu THAILAND 1. kun_cheero 2. womingzzine 3. Psyche86 4. lovelybee 5. Asiankatebella 6. CheriMerci 7. Dandelion7 8. zheezy 9. keemaster 10. ahn_annann 11. prow7 12. BigSmileAgain 13. lanladay TUNISIA 1. souhir 2. Germbaby TURKEY 1. teoki61 UNITED KINGDOM 1. yani-sakura (I'm from the U.K., England to be exact, born in Abu Dhabi but half Indonesian) 2. maryclaude 3. Fluorescent.Flower USA 1. rxp080100 2. crystalblue (I am Vietnamese but a U.S. citizen) 3. BluMistLaydee (from Haiti) 4. BRoze2001 5. MaeDang (from Vietnam) 6. kenjisam 7. ikekeyou 8. sweet_spy 9. twayblade 10. k.rivera19 11. DDuk 12. Full-of-love(from Vietnam) 13. hafunohane ( i'm Indonesian.. but i grow up in LA) 14. harajukudezz 15. clrais 16. luvtokki 17. ladeeao (I'm Filipino! & U.S. Citizen) 18. zcanby 19. uh-ohxev 20. sweetcake_(from Vietnam) 21. biancacoolio (born in Philippines) 22. celticheart47 23. toomuchsmiling 24. MrsAthenaG 25. Goguma52 26. szoku85 27. InLove_WithU 28. jojuel 29. bluemoonlight 30. Yamapi77 VIETNAM 1. Seychan 2. santak 3. LifeMadeSimple923 4. uynhu 5. keira53 6. Smabi 7. yeuyongseo 8. one_shot 9. hamster_seung 10. shenibabi 11. etou_okano 12. albeechan 13. FrB_vn We would like to collect as many fans as possible to show Yong and Hyun that they do have a lot of international fans...so please support the project! Please PM me or just add where you're from in your post..I will update it every day. If somehow you are missing from the list, please let me know as well. @lovekin You're totally right..the lyrics are quite general for non-WGM fans. Thanks for pointing that out! (I still so hope it's for Hyun though..) LOVE LOVE LOVE your fan fics btw. @MountainMadman Thank you in advance for translating the episode! @luvtokki and other male goguma fans : With you guys around we should be able to know more about Yong..and it's always interesting to read everyone's povs.. That's why I love the thread so much. Please post more! @Germbaby please check your message ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ajayuki Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hello dear Go-chun residents, wow. I left the thread for 3 weeks and now finding myself reading more than 20 pages. This thread is surely move fast! You guys are awesome!! um, my 3rd post here, I've always been a lurker, giving silent encouragement and (+) points. celticheart47, lovekin, Yamapi77, soshisoshisoshi I love your posts on Yonghwa's song! and I couldn't agree more. when you think about it, Yonghwa's song for Seohyun is kinda like the Beatles' song "Woman" - John Lennon's heartfelt (lovestruck(?)) song for Yoko Ono. and after Lennon's death the song now dedicated to all women in the world. isn't it similar to Yonghwa's situation? Yonghwa dedicated this song to Seohyun. He said it himself in Episode 35 "I made this song for you", "this song is my present/message message to her" (interview). Seohyun knows it and gave her support of course. I'm really happy that he can finally complete his song to his virtual wife. Music, songs last forever, so I guess maybe that's why he gave the title "For the First-time Lovers" to relate to his experience and also to the wider audience akin to Lennon's 'Woman'. Still, the essence of Yonghwa's song is strongly points to Seohyun and I'm (stubbornly) going to believe it that way, just like Lennon's personal message to Yoko Ono that we still listen to even now. Seohyun is his inspiration for composing songs and I really, really love how she changes Yonghwa for the better. uh... vice versa. can't wait for the next episode! 2 hours to go here in my country~~ I would love to write more, even if my English is kinda bad, but I'm still struggling with my study/job. English is not my 3rd language. heheh! I'll keep on reading and help you guys in the (+) points and also neutralizing the (-) points made by uh...antis lurker here? oh! I hope it's not too late... YSforever I don't want to be left out in the country list of Gogumas (thank you for your hard work @YSforever! ) I'm AjaYuki from Malaysia. Pleased to meet all of you my lovely Gogumas family and I love you guys a lot!! thanks for sharing your POVs, analysis, translation, news, media, fanarts and anything Yongseo related. I feel so blessed finding this site last November after I was converted to be one of the Yongseo couple shipper. I love Yongseo for making me smile everyday and rejuvenate in every possible way! and I'm sure everyone here does too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bananaleaf Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Whoever drew the picture or illustration for Yong's digital single is a genius. I just noticed how fitting the drawing of each character in it. It has been bothering me all day as to why the clothing looked so familiar, and then it hit me, they wore almost the same clothes on their 22nd day anniversary. Yong was wearing a grey stripped long-sleeved shirt full of holes, while Hyun was wearing a pink polka dotted shirt. Not only did they compliment each other that day (together with their matching trench coats) but they literally "completed" each other. Each dot filled Yong's holes (on the shirt of course!!). Seohyun: oh! oh ! oh! Oppa saranghe! Yong Hwa: Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gogumaforever Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 hello fellow gogumas! have you been all well? certainly!!! been in lurker mode for the past few days but never fail to visit this thread every single day and i must say, this thread does not jump or leap easily, it flies like a rocket ship. if you fail to visit the thread for a single day you will have a hard time reading previous pages. yong and hyun brought us all to be united. to mountainmadman, thank you in advance i will be watching the live stream, cant wait to see it. goguma villagers you're all the best, thank god i found all of you when i needed an inspiration to continue. saranghae everyone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvergrey Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 It's been a long time since I've posted. I've kept up with every episode though, no matter where I've been and YongSeo couple never fail to impress me with their sweetness and unfailing respect and regard for each other. I love the Banmal song ... all versions of it ... as a YongSeo duet and also a solo declaration by Yong Thanks to mountainmadam, kay77, redtulip, sun_sun (I hope I got all the names correct) and everyone who contributes to this forum with translations, videos, photos, caps, updates, fiction and opinions. It's always such a joy to know that YongSeo couple have so much support from all around the world. Please add me to the ever-growing YongSeo global fan group: I'm from Australia. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezadee Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hi all ^___^ Could anyone here kindly share the link for the streaming? Really sorry because I forgot to bookmark the link that has been shared before Very appreciate it!!! gamsahamidaaa 5 more minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooleet Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 can anyone give me a link for the livestream. I think it's about to start now. please... I just hope we will have another interesting episode today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gogumaforever Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/soshiworld2 link for the live stream , its starting now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwenli Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 omg, did they hold hands? I saw the stream and somebody on the side commented that they hold hands and stroll, but I didnt see it!!! I kept looking at Yong's mum and I think his likeness to his mum is the jaw and mouth. And if certain expression of his mum reminds me of Yong. Yong is almost a male version of his mum. aahhhha. And his mum got so many presents from Hyun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MountainMadman Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Episode summary: Hyun tries food. Sea cucumber intestines, to name one. Also, mink whale meat (!). Presents: couple scarves for mother in law + father in law, also something for Yong's hyung (not mentioned) mother-in-law's favorite color is wine color. Letter: MIL was very impressed, said it was 'touching'. Hyun: 'please treat me like a daughter' Yup, they held hands. Off to watch Khuntoria + Adam...will wait patiently for raw cuts. EDIT: I don't know whether I should be happy or sad that our couple got 15 minutes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vmasterpiece Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 just finish streaming online.. seohyun is such a nice daughter in law~~ i guess adam couple has 30 mins air time and khuntoria and yongseo 15 mins each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest full-of-love Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 So i just finished watching the Ep.. and sure enough, Seo did not fail to impress her MIL !!!I'm sure by now both MIL and FIL will love seohyun she's such a thoughtful girl . She bought the presents for both her father and mother in law. MIL was so touched that she's lost with words. Can someone please translate the letter that Seo gave to her MIL? Anyways i think Yong was so touched that he's about to cry LMAO!!! must be very proud of his BUIN !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kasia3goguma Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Now it's Khuntoria! Well the episode was a bit short, they end a meeting with MIL and were going to the sea...! Mother in Law was really nice Seohyun gave her some presents and letter ! I have no idea what they were talking about so I'll patiently wait for some subs;) I have a pic to share Yong and Hyun were going to the sea while holding hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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