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7 hours ago, dashmount20 said:
The ep 15 is the eye.. but this one i am bit confuse as she din touch any "ba huang" mirror fragments. Why suddenly she can different shapes the colour? She only found the sword at ep 16.
Arghh talking ep 15... i like the scene where sifeng so happy that she open the curse mask... kya...
So far only 2 fragments she touch.
1st fragment found in the lake ep 1, she accidentally hurt her hand with the fragment under the lake..
2nd fragments found in the li ze Palace ep 12, SF gave her the fragment and she found the smell sense
3rd suddenly eye senses at ep 15.. question mark for me..
I think the 6 sense is her true self that lock in the glass in the lake by hao chen..
they found one at that red fox place which the bird tried to steal away
it was in a painting i think
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This drama is so rocking..
can someone direct me to any chit chat on actual story details
6 hours ago, rosierosie said:Just saw ep 8^^! Oh boy what is SF gonna do to lift the lover's mask curse???!
Love to see XJ all powerful and mighty now^^. I love a strong, female lead :).
Question, XJ's voice actor sounds like Reba's voice actor? Is it her?
Also who voice SF's and HC's voices? Is not Yehua's voice actor, is it? One of them sounds similar.
So at this point, we know that XJ was born without her senses.
What are the sense she have now, and what are the missing senses she needs to find?
she has her taste back, post ep 8 she gets her smell and eyesight (color distinction)
i guess pending should be 4-ear (distinghishing voices)
5-feeling (skin) and thus her heart
6- i assume this should be spiritual/ like unlocking of cultivation or sthg;;..her power
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2 hours ago, romanov said:
I believe Park Ok Ran is the real killer. She's an obsessed fan of MY's mom, dressed up like MY's mom then killed KT's mom. I seconded @Cayu18 post.
But my next question is:
what is her relation to KT's mom? and what does she mean by 'my child'?
because there's a scene where she says "It's me who will take care of my child"
confused.. ep 12 clarified it is MY's mom who killed ST's mom
We see partial face of the killer and it is the same face we saw in MY's memory of the mother (when they showed her lips and all whi;e combing mY's hair)
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2 hours ago, Annie12 said:
Hello
I have not watched episode 12 yet so i am only going to comment up to 11.
Ok i dont know, i only speculate that this psycho actress who went to wish Ko Moon Young happy birthday is actually the murderer of Moon Gang-tae's and Moon Sang-tae's mom. And she was initiated to do that by reading the book of KMY's mom.
and possibly this is going to be revealed and the couple will break up.
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ep 12 answered this mystery.. mom is the killer
face shown is the same as mom
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7 minutes ago, Not Me said:
it's MY birthday and she ask food from JR mother.and thank you SI for gifting her present!
she's talking with ST about sheep story..
then Park OkRan come to her house..celebrating her bday.. who's she actually? i dont think she's her mother tho...
then for next week preview..
this series is such a roller coasterrrrrr.. today im crying so baddd next week will be a happy one
now the rest of episode will be MY hardwork to gain ST approval.
and her mother mistery.. i really hope her mother is not Moon brother's mom killer. then the happy moment will only last for a bit.
andddd for KT is having fever.. is he going to spend a night in MY house?like he collapsed in her house after 'save' her.. because i dont think anything big will happen between OR & MY.
She is reading mom's novels..
i think she is a fan/ stalker fan who imbibes the story of witch
Remember, mom died while writing this witch series, and i bet my money that witch series is highly inspired by her real life..
I doubt dad -daughter have read the series
7 minutes ago, Not Me said:it's MY birthday and she ask food from JR mother.and thank you SI for gifting her present!
she's talking with ST about sheep story..
then Park OkRan come to her house..celebrating her bday.. who's she actually? i dont think she's her mother tho...
then for next week preview..
this series is such a roller coasterrrrrr.. today im crying so baddd next week will be a happy one
now the rest of episode will be MY hardwork to gain ST approval.
and her mother mistery.. i really hope her mother is not Moon brother's mom killer. then the happy moment will only last for a bit.
andddd for KT is having fever.. is he going to spend a night in MY house?like he collapsed in her house after 'save' her.. because i dont think anything big will happen between OR & MY.
She is reading mom's novels..
i think she is a fan/ stalker fan who imbibes the story of witch
Remember, mom died while writing this witch series, and i bet my money that witch series is highly inspired by her real life..
I doubt dad -daughter have read the series
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This is my take on the raw scenes.. maybe subs will change everything..
So, ST keeps hearing from nurses, at home with other folks during dinner.. that KT and MY are together. But, KT on phone keeps telling ST that he is alone.. and ofcourse that is that subtle jealousy, issue with sharing KT with anyone.
Anyway, final scene, ST knows KT is lying and he is super hurt. He goes back , asks KT whom he likes more - ST or MY. KT says ST but he is lying (obvious).. MY also enters the scene..
ST completely flips when he sees KT lying to his face .. and i think he starts making references to the scene before lake scene where KT said he wishes ST was dead.. and in the lake scene KT did dabble into letting ST die..
( i think half the reason why ST left and did not try to save KT that day).. and KT is crying because that is a huge guilt he carries (i think he realizes that he did try to kill ST at some point, and that he does consider ST a burden at other times)
That's why i think MY will play a role.. in reminding ST that ultimately he left KT to die
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3 minutes ago, Jeannie said:
Wow that ending just when they were happy on their mini vacation. Does ST think that he abandoned him?
I don't know Korean, but i think he was referring to the lake scene and basically calling out KT that he told mom that he hopes ST dies (before lake scene) and then he actually entertained the idea of letting ST die..
I believe ST was perceptive and interpreted the scene rightly... we never got his pov on that scene..maybe that's why he left
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34 minutes ago, damondayfreak1 said:
OK, makes sense. Though I'm like "but there are butterflies everywhere in Korea... Kang Tae could have taught him that he's gonna be OK whereever he is, because Sang Tae is not dumb". And "why can't Kang Tae keep a job after so many years (if put aside his older brother's issue with butterflies)?"
You don't have to reply, I'm the kind of person to question the basis of the concept of TV series so... don't bother lol
hmm.. not sure if you are oversimplifying it.. but sure..each has their own questions..
it is more about trigger and hence spring when flower blooms and you would probably find more butterflies..because problem is not just butterfly, ok hospital has them.. its a trigger..
trigger that will make ST not agreeing to staying in that place..and as it seems KT ends up losing job quite often when brother goes into his fit
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24 minutes ago, damondayfreak1 said:
I still don't understand why the Moon brothers had to move so many times... I guess I'll watch again the 1st episode. OK, Sang Tae is afraid of butterflies, so what?
if you ask that question, that defeats the whole purpose for this story or drama to exist
they are on a run
running away from butterflies so that they don't find ST
if ST is convinced butterflies have found him, how do you think he would stay at that place? If KT doesn't have a job how cna they stay?
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29 minutes ago, Not Me said:
wowww is this told in today's episode? or did i miss it at earlier episode?i dont remember watching scenes MY saved him when his mother died
nah..theorizing
What we can be sure of is that MY's mom beat ST and ST's mom back then, potentially killing ST's mom.
But ST was saved...someone did save him..
His fear of butterflies and MY killing butterflies.. clearly MY's mom (either she liked butterflies or she had cornucopia of butterfly themed trinkets)
Plus just as KT's memories are unreliable, MY's are unreliable too.. i think she blocked her memories of killing mom but dad remembers
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Lastly, our lady at hospital singing clementine.. pretty sure is an avid/stalker fan who knew about the life of her idol.. OR a sister (but then MY would have recognized her at the hospital)
29 minutes ago, Not Me said:wowww is this told in today's episode? or did i miss it at earlier episode?i dont remember watching scenes MY saved him when his mother died
nah..theorizing
What we can be sure of is that MY's mom beat ST and ST's mom back then, potentially killing ST's mom.
But ST was saved...someone did save him..
His fear of butterflies and MY killing butterflies.. clearly MY's mom (either she liked butterflies or she had cornucopia of butterfly themed trinkets)
Plus just as KT's memories are unreliable, MY's are unreliable too.. i think she blocked her memories of killing mom but dad remembers
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Lastly, our lady at hospital singing clementine.. pretty sure is an avid/stalker fan who knew about the life of her idol.. OR a sister (but then MY would have recognized her at the hospital)
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The only way ST-MY would get resolved is ST realizing, MY saved him from death when he was young (when mom was killed)
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10 hours ago, madmad min said:
I am Waiting for an INTENSE KISS , we have completed the First Half of the show barring 1 episode.
ST I am not sure who will he be jealous of...I think there is a dialog tomorrow on the lines, "I am fedup of sharing things or not having things on my own" . More like MY doting on KT and KT not getting that ST should be the one MY to dote on (Analogy Like the Shirt, Dinasour Shirt should have been worn by MY as per ST not the Plain one because that was more expensive and Belonged to him)
Kiss i'd expect in ep 10
1. We have to know about MY's mom, her role in KT's mom's death, MY's role in that of being passive observer or maybe she killed mom.. her memories are distorted too
2. KT distancing himself from her for sometime given she is connected to mom's death etc..
So, kiss, confession, love dovey should happen by ep 10-11 .. next episodes mY's healing, finding out about Mo,, next 2 episodes in uncovering the truth..maybe mom's novel also has clues.. sorting out with dad..
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1 hour ago, madmad min said:
Ahh DangIt!!!
I knew ST will end up causing disruption in some manner between KT-MY.I am scared of tomorrow episode.
Today's episode has best One Liners. CHICKEN HEAD!!!>.....is the Only Item You did not Sell.
Mr. Lee Fangirls KT whenever he holds him when he is about to fall. LOL , And the Look , it would be the same on JR if the same situation happened.
I liked how JR practically said F off Unrequited Love is a headache. YES IT IS.
Mr Lee, I think NONE of the Female Leads like you in this show. Do Something about you True Blueness.
The First Half was Fun
The Second Half was ...(me a blabbering mess, why does ST-KT-MY break and twistingly rip my heart out??)Kudos.
MY's makeup deptt, Her eyes are Looking Bigger and Brighter Now. That is similar to the KDRAMA trajectory of Good Gone Bad(FRINGE V/S Pompadour), Her eyes Show the Same.She even was lets say LESS BLUNT and more EMPATHETIC when she listened to KT narrating about the Doll he made MT.
q and Theories
1. Again was MY brought up in Foster CARE System? Considering Her father was admitted pretty early in OK Care Center.
2. I suspect the Mom is somewhere located in the Center or someone who closely Knew her.Only the father is being targeted.
3. I think MOM had PTSD, Cue- MY dad described her as elegant than a bit too loving towards their daughter.
4. MY was probably not born with any ASD but her Mom's thought process made her so.
I think mom is dead, but the lady who took away the book from dad, might be a friend/fan/sister and hence hums that song.. possibly an ardent fant
ST is jealous of KT liking MY or mY liking KT?
The best line "You shouldn't drink, otherwise it will be bad"... you can so tall that KT knows immediately if both are drunk it will be intense fierce love making
BUT WORST, MY is a danger.. the way she attacked the editor.. and today's episode solidifies how much the editor cares about her like a family.. whats the guarantee, that tomorrow she is angry on ST and pushes him down the staris..
today they legic put forth the case that she is unhinged and a very real threat of life
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3 hours ago, Khaffie said:
She received one from lee joon gi
??? not sure relevance of the comment to the point though
12 hours ago, Ameera Ali said:
Ko Moon Young didn’t have let go in her dictionary
** she can do everything to stay next to him
ha ha..ok retrospectively..he knows she is the girl who is her first love in this scene right..
he does still like her.. was he hurrying because..you know ..
"hard and soft"
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6 hours ago, hwonhwon_stv said:
This is such a suffocating tradition..
the kind of pressure it must put on new actors or people with less/no money
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7 hours ago, nrllee said:
Her character description says she disappeared after writing her final book. And like you said, JuRi assumed MY’s mom was still alive so that fits the narrative that nobody knows she died because there was no body (except her father and her).
It’s all in bits and pieces. I vaguely remember there was a scene where MY dreamt that her mom was in water and calling her to “save me”? Or at least I thought it looked like her mom (it looked like a woman). I think it was on the first night she slept in the castle. And then she visualised GT hugging her.Yeah I think having the father be “BlueBeard” the killer would make it too hard to resolve when the truth comes out. So suicide would be an “easier” plotline. The portrait in the basement (Ep6) had her father and her standing close to each other, he looked like he had his hand on her shoulder? So for all intensive purposes they looked to have had a cordial enough relationship. He strangled MY at the hospital because she looked like her mom (sleazy book reviewer said they looked alike) and in his impaired mental state, he mistook MY for his wife. That’s why he asked her why she was still alive before trying to strangle her.
yup .. makes sense.. my theory is similar
but i am intrigued, that photographer knew mom and worked with her..lol..did she not scare him enough
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2 hours ago, nrllee said:
I think MY’s mom is dead. MY found the body in the basement. Nobody else knows except MY and her dad. Everyone thought she just disappeared (and that was the story her father told the public).Ok..i missed this that people think she went missing
2 hours ago, nrllee said:
I think MY’s mom is dead. MY found the body in the basement. Nobody else knows except MY and her dad. Everyone thought she just disappeared (and that was the story her father told the public). And when she didn’t make an appearance after a number of years, she was deemed “dead”. I have a feeling the mom killed GT’s mom (in a fit of rage or jealousy?). She may have meant to kill GT (like she told MY for daring to bring him to the castle)? Potentially she mistook ST for GT and his mom intervened to save him? When MY’s dad found out he either- locked her away in the basement to figure out what to do (I prefer this option). And she took her own life.
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- killed her and hid her in the basement.MY found her body. I think they may then have thrown her body into the lake (hence the flashback where MY sees her mom’s body sinking). So to MY her mom is dead but still haunts her in her dreams (so she’s “alive” in her subconscious). Her dad is still living but he’s a shell because of his dementia. MY said she didn’t like flowers which dropped their petals bit by bit (cherry blossoms) but preferred those that dropped their petals all at once (like Magnolias?). She was alluding to her parents. She would rather they died without lingering. Her father is dying slowly (bit by bit) due to his condition. Her mother also still persists in her dreams refusing to “die”.
Which episode has mom in the lake? I missed that too..lol
but, yes i have the same theory that MY's mom tried to kill ST or KT's mom
and i don't think dad killed mom..he is a strangler right..she was in a pool of blood like KT's mom.. so i also think MY's mom committed suicide
a b'ful angel but demented (and dad really loved her hence went bonkers)
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5 hours ago, Dramafreak said:
@bebebisous33 so I have a question for you
what do you think ST feels for MY? It is definitely a crush but do you see more there?
also, is MY always treating ST as a pawn to get what she wants from GT? Is MY capable of loving someone?
others (i just didnt know who all to tag) please feel free to jump in to give your inputs while we wait for Saturday
and i am also going to say that MY saved ST from butterflies or whatever..helped him escape..
That is why ST recognizes her and is such a big fan.. ofcourse his brain hasn't yet consciously realized that MY is the same girl who saved him on the day of mother's death
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8 hours ago, __jesse said:
KMY took this figurine not because it’s pretty, but because she wanted to dispel her mother’s evil spirit. She knew she would experience sleep paralysis when staying in the cursed castle. But even with Cheoyong’s protection, she was still haunted by her mother’s ghost. This suggests that her mother’s ghost isn’t real, but a figment of her traumatic past.
the same episode, the show also blurred the line between reality and hallucination. In Kwon Gido’s eyes, he saw the hospital director dressed as the club manager, and the line was said in the hospital director’s voice. However, in the epilogue, the hospital director didn’t say a word, and Gido heard another voice reading the line.
How do we distinguish reality from illusions? Psychosis is defined by a loss of contact with reality. People with psychoses do not realise that their experiences are products of their minds, and are not real. To them, their hallucinations and delusions are their reality.
I don't think anyone thinks there is a ghost..
and the only reason people have the theory of mom being alive is because Juri said that when she visited MY in her hotel..
MY was going on and on about dad who is alive but dead, and mom who is dead but alive..and Juri said "but your mom is not dead"
(therefore the guess is that either she is in some vegetative state, or for whatever reason not able to move around much/kept away from MY)
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6 hours ago, sussieh said:
I ditto think that JR and MY could become friends in a future. They have issues atm but it seems that their friendship was « interrupted » by MYs mom influence in MYs actions, when they were little girls.
About the unrevealed person who’s in the hospital (the silhouette who’s looking at MY from afar and the « ghost »), I think she could be MYs mom who’s not really dead but she was locked up in the hospital bc of suicide attempt and dementia.
Also, I don’t think that MYs mom (or her dad) was the one killing KT’s mom. I believe that they are all victims of dementia and depression. MY’s parent could have had marriage issues after MYs fall into deep depression. MYs mom was possessively protective over MY, she doesn’t want anyone near her (not even her dad), then MYs dad started to blame her daughter and saw her as a threat.
About KTs family... they haven’t show much. But yeah, maybe his mom was deeply depressed and at the end she committed suicide. She was shown drinking a lot. His brother strong fear to butterflies could be because he witnessed his mom suicide and he heard her saying something about becoming free and transforming to a butterfly.
Well we know that KT's mother got murdered..so there is a murderer.. and ST saw the murderer or someone the same night..
and mom highly likely is dead.. because they showed mom's lips today.. and that actress hasn't appeared as yet.. UNLESS like the lady said to MY "Do you not recognize mom because of multiple plastic surgeries?" and she seems obsessed with beauty
Plus doctor would know if mom was in the hospital and so was dad
Lastly, when mom stangled dad, we saw cold mist spreading over the window.. it is summer.. no reason for cold mist.. and this is definitely not a fantasy horror.. so, dad got his mom dream too i guess.. and the lady moving at night could be any patient
1 hour ago, rocher22 said:Their hugs are something special compared to the hugs
in other dramas.
The parallel is interesting.. she is like a child hugged by mom..
this one started with zombie kid.. and here we are..
when he pulled her into the hug.. so so amazing
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8 minutes ago, madmad min said:
Concept of Normal is Very Subjective, Not Normal Kids on the other hands like MY initially won't Know they are Not Normal, Its what They are Like I mean that is their Nature , it won't look out of Blue for them, It is their Normal.MY was taught that she was Special. ST was TOLD he was Different. But for them their behaviour is NORMAL to them.
MY was doing her Normal, she never asked JR, JR was the one who wanted to befriend her, Like KT who liked her and Ran Away. Both did not understand her Normal because their Normal varied from Hers.MY for all she cared just like food from her Mom's diner , her conceot of friendship v/s JR is not same.
Agreed it Cannot be Always KT's responsibilty but family Does not work Like that. Or more specifically Family Like KT's does not work like that.Had ST gotten someone in his life to love and care for him like a Man beyond Autism KT would have been free, He was taught to take care of ST. He is suffering because of that But HE CHOSE TO BE LIKE THAT in their Adulthood. KT is not indebted anymore, He is Choosing not to LET GO of them.
Ps- I like what you theorized abt KT's Mom and MY's father possiblity. Very Plausible.
I was replying to a comment..
It is unfair to pin all the blame on Juri.
And if you take this "this is their nature" .. that is a slippery road as far as logic goes...
then everyone in this world has their nature, including a serial killer
Then did KT ask her to follow him, why is she harassing him.. be careful of how you are arguing this. Your logic cannot be a one way street
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9 minutes ago, madmad min said:
We have ti keep in Mind the fact, KID JR could have been a friend to MY , if she could have understood her even 2%, Kids can get scared or can accept as well it swings both ways.There are Normal Kids out there who have SOCIETY DESGINATED WEIRD Friends as Well.
ADULT JR is Farce/FAKE and MY for the lack of better words Disgusts her. Adult JR is also Jealous of Her because of KT's attention on MY and also her beauty and brashness. Had MY being a patient JR could still be her friend, Not now. JR is quintessentialy the jealous Teen right now who is being ignored by her crush.
And JR never Had any friends, when was That Highlighted? Did I miss something?It eould be helpful if someone shares that portion.
Jealousy in love is not new.. look what MY did.. manipulated an autistic person.. she ain't any better than Juri.. she is 2 faced too, manipulates when she needs sthg.. or acts as a brat
it is not the responsibility of "normal" kids to understand not normal ones, while not normal ones go about doing whatever they want.. same as KT and ST..it cannot always be KT's responsibility
For Juri, MY does whatever she wants and pays no consequences.. obviously it is disheartening.. and on top of it..as far as she knows , now MY is coveting her life long crush
3 minutes ago, lolly84 said:After watched ep 6 with subs i can say there's a connection between MY's mom, KT's mom, MY's dad and butterflies... Probably ST saw this deep connection when their mother died and i think the key is ST's memories...
I can't wait to see the date next week... Someone on YT mentioned about another hug for our couple... There's some spoiler pic on IG i guess... BTW when MY cried i cried with her... KUDOS to SYJ!!
lol..you know what KT's mom crossed path with MY's dad.. so MY's mom got so angry that she killed KT's mom..
and that's when dad lost it and either killed mom or sthg happened and mom ended up dead
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29 minutes ago, shazai said:
Based on the preview:
- it seems that MY will help the mom patient maybe pretending to be her daughter with KT's request since the mom patient sees MY her dead daughter thats why KT told her she did a good job
- had a date and MY is asking KT their status in short DTR - Define the Relationship (That's our GIRL)
Well I haven't full watched Ep5 because I skim watched it while i watched ep 6 scene by scene.
I had a feeling that MY - KT were each other first loves but timing is not right for them since they were too young and how would a kid stand up with the MY's mom. I also realize that people around JR knows her awful temper and she acts a spoiled brat while driving. I like MY's reaction someone cleaning and making food on her house. She looks surprise and amaze since no one does that for her. I think MY's mom was really killed but by who?
I really REALLY love the LAST SCENE! It made my SUNDAY night really good. Its just shows that KT cares well throughout the episode 6 you see he cares a lot with MY but something holding him back.
I like how the story goes with a fairytale mix and i guess that makes it interesting.
ON the contrary, i think MY and Juri will end up becoming friend..
Juri never had friends, she tried to befriend MY but plz.. as a kid it would be difficult for anyone to tolerate MY (she was enjoying ST's drowning... and probably one reason she saved KT was because KT is handsome even as a child in her eyes .. lol.. remember her wish was for moon to send a "handsome" prince to save her)
1 hour ago, tiMadam said:When JR goes to see MY in the hotel, she mentioned her mother is great cook and when she had it good still love her cooking.
Does the JR's mother have a story with MY's mom or KT's mom?
maybe was a househelp/cook
and even she has good memories of MY as a kid..
so , yeah.. think either mom was black widow..and finally dad killed her to save MY..and since he loved mom so so so much it drove him insane and he attacked MY
(anyway he has dementia right.. he ain't insane)
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does anyone remember there is a novel (i haven't read it..but remember reading the synopsis) and it is by some famous author..
essentially, rich family.. run by matriarch .. who likes to exert control. to that extent that she manipulates upbringing of her own kids for her power trip
one of her sons is a great artist..but since childhood she discourages him so much..
ultimately story was.. how he tries to break free, finds love.. etc etc.. but in the very end..mom creates such situation that he has to give into her
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Who is bluebeard in the epilogue?
hunchman is ST right?
19 minutes ago, whiteclover said:here after the latest episode and yes, more revelations to the past i guess? So they are referencing MY's childhood to the Bluebeard folktale? Interesting, then perhaps the Mum's death/ missing was linked to the Dad? I just want to know why the Mum forbids MY's interaction with the outside world and KT (aka her Prince)... oh not forgetting the butterfly story with KT? Just wondering if the butterfly backstory will have links with MY or her family?
I love how although the plot is leaning towards the dark side, there's still comic relief from JR's mum, Jaesu and the CEO Lee? And is it me or i am getting jealous vibes from KT when CEO Lee say he is MY's man lmao. I AM ALL IN FOR A JEALOUS KT
Kudos to SYJ's acting man, the sleep paralysis cries were so heartbreaking!!!! Thank god there's KT around this time to hug her
please let the healing begin. And please KT, stop holding back, you deserve happiness, you deserve to express yourself and we want more than just a hug with MY
looks like she is black widow
"hard and soft"
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They will fake death to kill king in line with history and yet not kill them
That is the only logical ending. And this whole current chagrin of baby queen saving baby king is setting groundwork for it. They will survive and live happily somewhere (as chinese ending)