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makes me think of this ... (One of Sigang's final two posts of 2016. HUHUHUHU. Damn. I hope she returns this year!)

On August 3, 2016 at 9:23 PM, SSulleim said:

a little rough trans and sorry to make a long story short(focus on kikyo  part)

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since the interviews went underway in two different rooms, they didn't have chance to see Jiwon(cause they waited for Kyo), but luckily kyo's interviewing room was the same floor where they waited, so they had a good chance to give gifts to kyo in person,  when they walked straightforwardly towards kyo with their hearts pounding so hard , out of the blue, Jk popped up and stood making his wondering look beside them (they didn't even notice there was jk cause they didn't expect jk to show up and their eyes were all for kyo at that time)they realized then that ki came upstairs with kyo. they tried so hard to stay calm and hold back their excitement cause they saw sigang(kikyo) together and when they gave gift bags to kyo, ki seemed still wondering and searching for his gifts, so one of the members kindly told him that they've already given his gifts to his manager, and then he said "Ah~" and looked very pleased .

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p.s: the dvd commentary support team told us to expect the couple commentary cause its vibe was so good , the running time would come out as we wanted.

the best part for me was ki escorting kyo and ki might wait until kyo finished her interview.

 

 

 

A big thank you to @thm55 and Ace chingu! You guys always come through for the gang and the rest of the shippers!

And I bow down to your very keen/perceptive ears, @thm55!

Simul-post with @hclover96!

Full translation of Ki's speech at the Korean Producer Awards, courtesy of Ace chingu!

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Hello, this is SJK. I am glad to be here. A lot of thoughts occurred to me while I was watching the Korea Producer Daesang ceremony from my table. I have received a lot of awards thanks to my appearance in DOTS, but this PD award made me the happiest. It is because winning this award means I am acknowledged by PDs. The most important thing is while I enjoyed glorious moments (at other award ceremonies), this is the first award ceremony with our two commanders. That makes me so happy. I really appreciate them. I thank you, KES and KWS, two writers who make Korean hearts flutter with such good scripts.

 

While listening to the speech by Dong Yup Shin sunbae-nim, I realized mutual praise between cast members and crew members on the set is important ... but I did not practice it. I complained but never gave a compliment to PD Lee, who endured a lot of hardships at the shooting site. Taking advantage of this ceremony, I offer him my praise. (Hahaha) PD Baek Sanghoon, I really appreciate your great help. And I want to deliver my thanks to other cast members on the set and the crew, who supported silently behind the scenes.

 

Uh ... Is this ceremony going to be aired? My father and mother ... I received the big award again. Hope you congratulate me together ...

 

And lastly, in Korea when the drama is produced, actors have more spotlight than actresses. To me, this drama was really a big project and the very first drama that I appeared in as soon as I was discharged from the army … such a big project ... I want to share the glory of this award with my partner SHK-ssi, who lessened my burden and being together with me made me feel so reassured.

 

While watching the ceremony, I listened to really diverse professionals ... many veterans from various fields---directors, writers and staff. And I’ve learned a lot from them as a [still] young actor. I am fortunate to be here. I learned a lot from them. A while ago, the speech by Kim Mun Suk, the radio scriptwriter, touched me so much. She said, "The scripts always vanish into the air.” While watching her tear up … I will try to be an actor who makes writers’ precious scripts come alive.

 

 

 

 

Full translation of Ki's speech at the Korean Producer Awards, courtesy of Ace chingu!

Original ... scapped by @khxy! Thank you, khxy!

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The caption: DOTS' 1st anniversary party. Thank you!

 

Thanks to ace chingu for the caption translation!

Well, it was all going so well ... People were actually ignoring that person, but I guess it was too good to hope that everyone would have enough common sense to ignore such nonsense! By replying to the troll, you've done the thread, the Songs, and PBG a great disservice. Good job! And if anyone doesn't follow that last part, that was sarcasm. *rolls eyes*

 @thepixies wall! To anyone tempted to reply to that troll ... please read P's wall  She gives good advice.

https://forums.soompi.com/en/profile/1091379-thepixies/?status=4106&type=status

Resist the temptation!

Seven. SEVEN! Seven takes of the bell tower kiss scene ... Is it really only seven?  

TAKE 1

TAKE 2

TAKE 3

TAKE 4

TAKE 5

TAKE 6

TAKE 7

Hmmmm ... what ad-lib ideas did you have, Ki? Had there been more time to film the truck kiss, what ad-libs would we have been in for? Juicy ones?  

Of course, big thanks to @thm55 and to Ace Chingu! 

Please check out @Amy Phan's and @thm55's respective walls and @hclover96's posts (on the thread) for more great stuff from the DVD.  

Poor @hclover96. You've had a very long day. LOL. Hang in there. There's more. LOL. Good thing our friend has been very detailed.

Just quickly chillin' while waiting to continue filming the landmine scene. Heh ... so comfy around each other even back then  

Forgot to post this before going to bed ... This was their 2nd shooting day in Greece. 

That kiss also made us go "heol" when it first aired  Ki seemed shy (and maybe a bit giddy?) watching it with Kyo ... LOL. Look at him bite his thumb. Meanwhile, Kyo is the queen of cool.

Credit to @thm55 and Ace Chingu!

K, last post before a long overdue snooze ...

Yes, Yoo Shi Jin is cute and definitely the guy who played him.  

Gracias! Merci! Danke! Many, many thanks, Awesome Twosome--- @thm55 and Ace Chingu! 

I'm sure the way she pulls her hair back isn't the only thing Ki finds attractive about Kyo  And Kyo ... so quick-witted!

Credit to the Awesome Twosome!!! Can't thank you guys enough!

To quote @thepixies:

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So many times Kyo forgot the memo to be professional for their commentary; they just lapse into default mode.

These two just kept forgetting to be "professional." LOL. Guess it's what happens when one hangs out with the best partner ... ALL. THE. TIME.

Not even five minutes into the commentary ... LOL.

Exhibit 1 

Exhibit 2 

Exhibit 3

Exhibit 4

Credit and hugs to the Awesome Twosome! @thm55 and Ace Chingu! 

@hclover96 THANK YOU for the gifs!  

Oh, Ki! Your coquettish smile / flattered expression at the end is a good enough answer!  

LOL. Ki seemed to like hearing that Kyo was caught off-guard by his "pretty" lines.

Oh, Kyo, he meant it ... still does!

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Kyo: Do you really mean it?

 

Ki: Eh? Pretty in the morning ... scarily pretty at night?

 

Kyo: At that moment, I couldn't remember my lines.

 

A smile forms on Ki's face. 

 

A big credit to the Awesome Twosome! You guys are always the best!

And for anyone with a shaky belief or just needs extra spazzing, the following has been translated by @thepixies! Thanks, P! Credit to the Weibo folk who posted the original poem/comment.

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'It Will Do'

 

The fog has lifted,

After that winter a wash of sunshine,

Silently says: the descendants of the sun dine together

Therefore

New York, dining together will do

Unfamiliar at the press conference? Pour a glass of water will do!

For the hardworking crew, host a meal together will do;

Incheon Airport being too crowded, being apart from her will do;

Hongkong, posting a storm on IG will do;

Baeksang was truly so noisy, but having eyes only for each other will do;

Chengdu's stairs are safe, protecting her will so;

Western USA's bright sunlight, it will do just for one person to get tanned;

After the dcut recording is over, to quietly wait for her will do;

Stockholm is so far from Seoul, to fly there will do;

The nation awarded both an honour, to accept will do;

That small piece of tissue paper, to show concern will do;

To be awarded the daesang together, to stand beside each other will do;

All at Tokyo's Roppongi, to be happy will do;

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She said: I'm hungry

He pinched her face: Let's eat together will do

 

 

No, Ki! No! I beg to differ!

Behold thy tight tushie! Just like Sophia's ... "a   b u t t   you could bounce a quarter on."

Cr:  k-starhk.blogspot.kr and to the Awesome Twosome!

Look out in there!!! 

As the saying goes, beware of a wolf in sheep's clothing!

And really, why create an account just to raise doubts? If you have doubts, then, why be a shipper?

Also, why link to negative comments about SS? Or bring ugly comments from outside regarding Ki and PBG's friendship? We know hurtful things are said about SS, but such comments have no place in the thread AT ALL! So, why bring them there? The thread is where fans should feel secure; it's where they can get away from all that negativity.

For anyone who still wonders, I suggest starting from the beginning! Read from page 1. Peeps would find many great analyses from fans, especially longtime respective fans of Ki and Kyo. Here are a couple from @ilovesjk, who's my go-to for info on Ki's history.   

On April 1, 2016 at 11:39 AM, ilovesjk said:

Here's my attempt to cheer everyone up.  

 

The difference between NOT in a relationship with a costar versus IN a relationship with a costar:

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Song Joong Ki and Park Bo Young (Werewolf Boy)

• Movie was a success.
• "Dating rumors" started by SJK himself. 
• Have tons of close selcas.
• SJK openly express affection towards PBY. 
• Uses smooth skinship and words during interviews and press conferences.
• Have nothing to do with each other outside of work.

 

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VERSUS

Song Joong Ki and Song Hye Kyo (Descendants of the Sun)

• Drama is a success.
• Dating rumors because the two were spotted holding hands in New York. 
• Hangs out after hours having intimate tea time and dinner, nothing related to work.
• Openly expresses they hang out and have talks over drinks, nothing related to work.
• In the public's eyes, they are strangers.
• Even at the party they both hosted, they sat on opposites ends of the room.

 

 

And here's @ilovesjk's masterpiece---the timeline! LOL. I think this is my 2nd time re-posting this? The timeline does need to be updated---BY SO MUCH---however, it does show that from the beginning this ship has been sailing itself! Muwahaha.

On April 10, 2016 at 8:49 PM, ilovesjk said:

 So I mentioned previously about a theory I had that strongly convinces me that SongSong are real and time finally allowed me to write it. Bare with me as this will be the longest post of life.

Now this isn't anything new or some secret stuff I managed to snag from an insider but are just an accumulation of events and popular topic of discussions we've had in this thread. I just wanted to gather all of them into one piece and stem my reasoning from there.

To begin, above all else, the thing that convinces me the most about them is how blatantly inconsistent they've been since the beginning until this very day. So this will be my main focus of this post.

Here's what I mean:

May 19, 2015: Articles of SHK's Elle Magazine interview were translated and in there she dishes on SJK, sharing that they first met during the set of TWTWB and coincidentally on several more counts at cafes and always greeted each other well. She also mentions she feels apologetic towards him that fresh out of military, he isn't being paired up with a pretty young actress but instead with her. At this I want to say they aren't complete strangers to one another but can't really say they're friends either, due to the gaps of familiarity her words conveyed.

May 30, 2015: SJK's photo was uploaded onto @chulhwa's Instagram and the first person to comment was SHK. To me, I guess this solidifies that they're friendly. They obviously have mutual friends and hang out at the same places.

October 2015: SJK is careful with his words when talking about SHK in his Elle Magazine interview. He was a little hesitant to say they are compatible, feeling he may be giving himself too much credit to dare say he's a good match with THE Song Hye Kyo. Like the respectful man he is, his comment here evidently shows respect towards a sunbaenim and a noona and someone of higher stature in the showbiz. Note, he does call her noona in this interview. But he also mentioned that the two are so close to the point of confusing the staff and even gaining an advice from Writer Kim telling him to date properly. I guess with this interview, we can take away that the two are close and enjoy working together.

September 28, 2015: The cast and crew jets off to Greece. Everyone was spotted upon arrival to the airport but SHK. A fan account revealed SJK and SHK were both spotted together by the boarding area. The most interesting part about this day was right before the airport, SJK was hanging out at studio concrete. It would be safe to assume the two were there together before heading to the airport.

January 24, 2016: The two bought a birthday cake to celebrate Private Puppy's birthday. This we just found out recently. So alright, they were still meeting up after filming wrapped up and even making decisions together. They are beyond close at this point because what colleagues do this anyway? At least they haven't done this with any of their previous ones.

Somewhere in between January 28, 2016 - February 20, 2016: The very famous and most talked about among shippers, the New York rendezvous! So the original post, which wasn't known to the public until later but it came from a friend of the foreign exchange student and it mentioned she spotted a handsome guy at the store which drew her attention to him. After taking a closer look, she realized it was SJK. He was holding the hand of a girl who was pretty much covered up but can clearly be seen to be SHK. If any of this holding hand is true then obviously they are dating now. I, for one, believe it's true, but let's say even if it's not true, we at least know they were in New York together, for something completely unrelated to work.

February 22, 2016: So despite not knowing about the New York sighting yet, what we got so far was that the two are pretty close. So of course this was the most anticipated press conference where we'd finally get to see them together and get a feel of their chemistry. But nope, the most anticipated press conference turned into the ultimate press conference of awkwardness real quick. This sent fans of the show in frenzied, worrying about their onscreen chemistry since the two are practically strangers in real life. At this point, I was questioning it too. But later realized that it was more suspicious than disappointing, especially from judging SJK, the mastermind of Public Relations. Why was he anything but that on this particular day? One important thing we got out of this was he addresses SHK as Song Hye Kyo-ssi and no longer noona as he did previously.

February 24, 2016: Come the big day and everyone was blown away! Yup blown away! They couldn't believe how much brewing chemistry these two had with the question of whether they were even acting up for debate.

March 16, 2016: Mid Press Conference. We didn't get to witness this but got a scope of it through articles and it seemed they were more relaxed. Still not relaxed enough to be considered "close" as they professed themselves, however. But SJK's lack of promotional tactics remained suspicious to me.

March 21, 2016: The two were swept up in dating rumors in which both agencies released official statements confirming their meet up in New York but only as close colleagues. This was the game changer! Their aloof behaviors at the press conference back fired on them, raising questions everywhere. If they were so close to even hang out half way around the world and are truly nothing but close colleagues, what was the distant behaviors all about? What were they trying to hide? The puzzle pieces were slowly coming together.

March 28, 2016: The two met up, accompanied by 2 alpha team members for dinner and late night tea. Said to have stayed at the restaurant until 3AM. Something is really fishy. This really backed up the New York meeting for me that it wasn't coincidental like their agencies have claimed but rather planned by both parties. Relating it back to their suspicious behaviors during the press conference, I was pretty much sold on the idea that these two are dating!

Somewhere in March: SHK's personal hair stylist was spotted on the set of SJK's LG Bamboo Salt cf shoot. Note, they did not share this stylist prior to DOTS otherwise SHK would have mentioned it as she continuously mentioned during TWTWB that her and JIS used to share the same makeup artist. The two have gotten close enough to even start sharing staffs.

March 30, 2016: SJK gave an on air interview on News9. Was asked about the rumors and didn't deny them. Instead he answered vaguely that the two discuss this matter over drinks and are enjoying it. So he basically confirmed that they meet up often and are pretty close. Again he continues to address SHK as Song Hye Kyo-ssi.

April 1, 2016: They co-hosted a congratulatory party. Really, mere colleagues do stuff like this? Since when? Expecting that since they already publicly declared their closeness and nothing should be suspected of the two, they'd have no problem being seen together but nope, not the case. Albeit from their continuous claims of being close colleagues to cover up their New York sighting and other outings, they went back to their aloof behaviors, going the extra mile to stay apart.

April 4, 2016: Their 007 airport mission took my suspicion to the next level. With SJK posing as a decoy to distract the attention only to allow SHK to get through without trouble, securely and comfortably abandoning his staffs and joining SHK and hers on the other side. Again, the sharing of staffs.

Upon arrival to Hong Kong the two were spotted walking side by side until they spotted paparazzi in which SHK obviously sprinted ahead of SJK, and her manager proceeding to walk between them. But if the two are close, there wouldn't be a problem walking side by side. So why the need to be so cautious?

Later during dinner, the same choreographed seating was arranged with Ms Park in between them, which was an amusement to the HK press, making sure to mention this part in details in next day's published article.

April 5, 2016: HK press conference and we get a complete swap of them being more open and showcasing their closeness. Even during dinner, SHK suddenly decides to shower the fans with 4 photos of the two on her Instagram account, completely contradicting what the HK press had to say about them in their reports. After dinner, their mission continues with the two escaping backdoor and was reportedly chauffeured by the famous chef of the restaurant supposedly back to their hotel.

April 6, 2016: SHK shows up to the airport in the best mood ever but wearing the same exact clothes from the previous night. And the rest is for your minds to wonder...

April 6, 2016 - April 9, 2016: SJK was spotted with SHK's hair stylist yet again. She did not leave back with SHK but instead stayed behind with SJK.

In conclusion, from the beginning until now, the two have shown a pattern of inconsistency, contradicting their claims over and over again. If there was nothing to hide, what's the point in going through so much trouble? Say they're close and just stick to it! How hard can that possibly be? Also notice how the only times they appear not close are times in front of the media with Hong Kong as an exception?

For comparison's sake, I will bring up their previous costars.

SHK+JIS: From beginning to end, continuously praised each other as colleagues, harping about how much of an honor it was for both to meet in a project together. Sharing subtle laughs here and there. Contact ended once drama ended.

SJK+MCW: From beginning to end, excessive praising and skinships, openly "confessing". Contact ended once drama ended.

SJK+PBY: From beginning to end, excessive praising and skinships, openly "confessing". He supports her in her endeavors by attending her movie premieres but it pretty much ends there.

I think I've written enough so I will leave the rest for you all to form your own judgment. I hope I made some kind of sense because I tried to be as brief as possible also I wrote this fairly quickly.

Seems some people are still hung up on the "friendship" part of Kyo's W interview.  She was kidding when she lobbied that question back to the reporter. As in, you can put it in this more simple, "They probably just see me as noona who treats them out, right?" LOL. 

And BTW, even between married couples wherein the girl is older, it is still a term used. As @lovesongsong pointed out, in the 3rd episode of "Newlywed Diary," Gu Hye Sun referred to herself as noona while she and her younger husband, Ahn Jae Hyun, started talking about their ages. (A little context: Jae Hyun mentioned that his birthday was coming up and he was about to turn 31. Hye Sun then said, "Noona had already turned 34.")

So, wish people would stop overthinking everything. 

Is Laneige Taiwan at it again?  The Laneige TW admin shared another FB update.

A big thank you to @khxy and @hclover96 for sharing this!

Here's the basic message, courtesy of @khxy:

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The writer says:  She (admin) is at a dept store taking picture of their new products, she hopes she can meet that lady who has a long hair, big eyes and has a deep relationship with the soldier.

 

Here's the more detailed translation of the first paragraph, courtesy of @thepixies! Thank you! (The second paragraph only talks about Laneige's new lipstick.)

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Angnyeo, Admin is currently very busy shooting a very important new product at Shin Kong Mitsukoshi A11's store! 
Am hoping the God of Luck will come, and Admin will meet that long-haired big-eyed person who has a deep relationship with the sun and soldier ~ hehehe ~ admin has been doing lots of good things of late, so I should be able to?!!!

Observable fact: It was Laneige who posted this  Maybe she's a very big fan of that certain hit 2016 drama that featured a beauty who has a deep relationship with the sun and a soldier. 

Anyway, let's hope the admin is able to meet that person!

Simul-post with @utkim!

Ace Chingu worked hard translating parts of Kyo's interview with W Korea. @thm55 also helped! As best they could, they stayed true to the original intent/meaning of Kyo's interview answers. LOL. A word-for-word translation would actually end up resembling a Google Translate message . LOL. So, we hope this will clarify the meaning and the tone of Kyo's statements.

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W About Love and Marriage

<W Korea> Do you believe in the saying, “Friendship can not exist between a man and a woman”?

<SHK> I agree with that. I do not have a male friend. Although I am close to Ah In-ssi who is in the same agency and JK-ssi who starred in the drama together (with me), but for them, I am probably a good noona who treats them to nice meals, isn't it so? 

<W Korea> Do you believe that getting married and having your own family is the most valuable thing in your life?

<SHK> Most people around me have gotten married and have children. It has come to my mind that I should (get married), too. Simply, when I was young, I regarded it as something easy, but as time goes on, (I realize) its not easy. My chances of meeting people ared limited, but my view regarding the right person has become more specific. And listening to the experiences of married couple, I let my dreamlike view (of marriage) gradually disappear. 

<WKOREA> Are you optimistic towards love?

<SHK> In terms of doing my best, I am optimistic. While dating, I go all in for that relationship and I never look back once its over. Since I tried my best for the relationship, I never have regrets or leave any lingering feelings. However, if the relationship doesn't work, then I can accept that it's beyond my ability. 

<WKOREA> When the entertainers date but break up, the news articles always report they will remain good friends. Don’t they become estranged? 

<SHK> I can’t imagine how much people have to be cool in order to be friends again with their exes. After breaking up, they should not meet until they die. It is the courtesy to their future lovers. I told my friends, “No matter how much you love your boyfriends, once you separate from them, Mr. Kim who lives next door is better because he can come and help you to hammer [a nail].”

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Regarding the bit about marriage ... Essentially, what Kyo is saying is that she's graduated from thinking that marriage is easy and fairytale-like to one that is grounded in reality. She doesn't see marriage as fantasy-like, but basically, she's learned from her married friends the realities of marriage---the good, the bad, the effort to make it work, etc. So, in my opinion, she's not saying she's closing her doors on marriage ever, but rather, when the time comes, she's armed with more realistic expectations.

Also about her response to the question about friendship between a man and woman, @joongkyo2 explained it well on her wall. And more to the point, it's about the tone ... Kyo was kidding with that last part. 

oops. forgot to include this.

cr. W Korea

cr. W Korea

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