TJ Starcandy
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Yah!!!!!!
when I say sink the ship this week.. I really mean it damn it!!!!!! Dear show I already packed my tents in the delulu island. WTH!!!! The paper work is all done for me ready to leave.. WTF!!! are they really an OTP??? OMG!!!
Ahhh chungmal!
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Here is what we know so far: Jian is his source of strength, otherwise he would have died from the pain of losing his soul. DH does not want to say it to her because of the fear of how will that sound. Why is he so afraid if those words don't mean anything else
? He is fine as long as Jian is in the confines of his world and workplace. It is selfish but that is DH's personality. The same way that he keeps YH in the state of purgatory. Always the safe approach and too afraid to take a step. I could understand the frustration of some people here because of the ambiguity but what else is new? This show has been walking that fine line of grey area since episode 7. DH's character frustrates me a lot in this episode but I could forgive him a little because his brothers found out about the affair. So, the whole family dynamic needs to be shown and fleshed out. I really hate the fact that Dong Hoon still choose to remain a spectator in his own life. He would rather just suffer instead of dealing the hard choice of a crumbling marriage. I agree with @ninaanin that YH revealed the affair to Ki Hoon because she is also tired of pretending like everything is ok and keep on suffocating in that apartment. YH also wants to expedite the process of her punishment so that she can move on from living in hell. It is very hard for me to root for a male lead that does not directly say what he means. Words are important too. He again loves to mope around and walk in circles. This is 85% of the drama and our Ajusshi still remains ambiguous. He also have moments of pure courage like with Gwang Il and in that boardroom. I just wish the show focuses more on his strengths rather than his indecisiveness. There is a clear lack of development in DH's character. Come on PDnim give me something here so that I can root for him! Dong Hoon is the male lead for goodness sake! How can you make this character so apatheticThe longing never stops.. in fact DH never bothered to hide it anymore around the office. What a shocker!
The restlessness, agitation, and annoyance from the knowledge Jian is not there. Those are the feelings that DH is exhibiting because he could not breathe from the emptiness without her. So it makes me wonder when his actual anger will start? All that breathlessness is not good for the brain. We all know DH is capable of such rage particularly JYD and Gwang Il are both trying to trap Jian into submission. He will erupt soon enough especially if she keeps on hiding like that.. DH will find Jian even in the depths of hell because she is the reason for him to keep on breathing and staying alive. Jian seems unaffected by the separation because of the phone tap. Wait until she will lose that ability. I guess another round of restlessness, agitation, heavy breathing, and panic? We already seen the glimpse of her behavior on episode 7 when she forgot to get off the train and was hurrying back to find him. The only time she took a deep breath was when she saw DH across the street. Viewers may have different definitions about their connection but in my opinion their relationship never really fits into any mold or label. Jian is his reason to breathe and DH is her reason not to fall into the abyss. They unknowingly try to save each other from dying. This is a matter of life and death for them. And there is nothing more romantic than that.. but of course this is just my own humble opinion.
Jung Hee is my favorite character in episode 13. It took her a long time but she put on her best clothes, heels, straighten her hair, and brought a lighter to see an ex-lover at the temple. She proudly wear her heart in her sleeves. Pour her feelings and resentment towards the man she loved all her life. The monk was shook for a moment there. Say what you mean and to hell with it! I hope DH can learn from Jung Hee and stop being pitiful. It is you alone that can pick yourself up and seek your own happiness.
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37 minutes ago, danielassny said:
He has reached his breaking point. All along, DH has been a time-bomb waiting to explode.
When his subordinates asked him about the outcome of interview, all he cared to ask about is JA. At times, I wonder if his subordinates actually ignorant or pretended not to know of the fact that DH is in love with JA.
Yes, all he could see was Jian not there at her desk. He didn't hug her. It was not because he didn't want to but DH knows the moment their bodies will touch, it will be game over. All of his defenses will come down and whatever feelings he is trying to control will come crashing down. It will never be about just a hug with them.. their longing for each other is way too much that one thing will lead to another.. So he must stop that from happening then coldly gave her a response and left.
36 minutes ago, tiger457_stv said:@timidjock0819 This reader has not seen episode 13, but for superstitious people, 13 is not a lucky number, nor lucky episode... Sound like with the CEO knowing that she is his enemy, her nerd computer game friend saying that they are being investigated, office is a mess with her presence, her unrequited love rejected, she knows she has to leave.... the little wild cat back to being a wild cat after staying near a nice warm home for a while! What no one expects, is that Ajusshi blows his top (the volcano burst through the snow)!!! What would it take for him to calm down? or will he rumble repressed then explode again like so many volcano?)
However, the destiny of Ji-an the wild cat and Ajusshi the icy volcano is intertwined.... so we just have to monitor the volcano and everything will become clear!
Agree. DH is the wild card. From Gwang Il to the board room, it was always about defending Jian.
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I am going to wait for the final subtitles. My initial reaction based from the recaps. Is Dong Hoon going to be ok without Jian? This is not just love isn't it? Jian is like his reason for breathing and living. It looks like he will literally die without her. Jian why the hell did you leave?
Our ajusshi as always doing the unpredictable, my heart couldn't stop beating the whole time. I always thought Jian was the one more into DH but this episode throw a huge freakin wrench into that belief. DH is just as crazy and his world literally stopped without Jian. WTH is going on here? Their longing for each other is so intense that it hurts my heart seeing them apart.
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2 hours ago, anipanch said:
Okay I got a confession to make!
After seeing the last teaser for the new episode and seeing how I'm on edge, waiting for the remaining episodes to come out, I'm taking all my words back! I don't want an open ending! no matter, how it suits the drama, nope nope just show me an exact ending, otherwise I'll spend the rest of my life wondering how DH and JA would continue their relationship
I am giving the show until this week to sink the ship. Otherwise, I will be demanding an OTP ending for Dong Hoon and Jian.
I got the tents all packed up, bonfire cleaned up, paper work all done, and ready to vacate the delulu island. Yah! writernim/pdnim stop sending food our way! I hope they don't make Dong Hoon confess or something
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Good morning. Happy Tuesday to everyone
. Thank you for the people that translated the upcoming teaser and spoiler clip. I am feeling the heartbreak coming up. It appears DH already knows about the wiretap. Will there be an argument at least before the ship will sink? Our ajusshi is very volatile and unpredictable when it comes to Jian so I will not be expecting a usual reaction. Remember the fight scene with Gwang Il. This is another revelation where Jian will expect him to run away from her. Let's see if DH actually does it this time or again he will do the unexpected and make us all swoon. Damn it show! I cannot even enjoy any other dramas right now. #sojushots before Wednesday to numb the pending heartbreak.
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40 minutes ago, tiger457_stv said:
Men do have opinion too....hahaha Kidding aside, this reader empathize with engineer dong hoon... and also with Ji-an and admires people like that. Would hire him and adopt her as a daughter without a 2nd thought.
By the way, you women use very unusual terms OTP, Shipping etc... the only ship I know is what we work on. Hahahah!!!
My apologies for assuming you are female. We have another male chingu here @dvdwyn which I enjoyed reading his insights. OTP is one true pairing - just a kdrama term fyi.
37 minutes ago, mujay said:Ooow, why you just realize now
lol.
First time i read @tiger457_stv, is cute man when he says, "this reader"lol,, does he tried to disguished his identity in logic matter but he have soft romantic vibe with all his logic romantic joke..lol.
I knew you are soompier man
Btw 2 days more for our DH-Jian sweet wrenching relationship.
@mujay dreadful wait my friend for new episodes. Is it still two days away?
Episodes 13-14 better be epic especially this production has been torturing us for 2 weeks.
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4 hours ago, anipanch said:
Glad to see the thread being so lively and seeing all these different opinions. I also want to add few things from my side.
Firstly, I'll start with the age gap issue which still is seen as something problematic. I have to disagree on this one and the talk about JA and DH shippers being delusional and trying to justify their relationship. At this point in the drama, I don't see how people would have the need to make up things about this relationship, it is pretty clear that it's not an ordinary one and what makes it even more attractive is the fact how everything is so subtle about them. The drama doesn't focus and scream about how they might be "in love" but we still see hints about their feelings in little details, like their way of acting, their stares. Another important aspect is their growth as characters. I can't understand how someone can deny the differences both DH and JA went through after getting connected to each other. They are just reflections of what they used to be in the first episode and a person doesn't change you unless they mean a lot to you.
Now, I have said many times that I won't insist on extremes like them getting married or some make-out sessions, because frankly it will contradict for all the drama stands for. But I'll be waiting for something unexpected, because "My mister" is full of unexpected developments. I strongly believe, that whatever their feelings are, JA and DH became irreplaceable parts of each other's lives. I'm not sure, how everything will turn out in the end, but saying that they will just go on their separate ways acting like nothing has happened is dropping the whole drama in the water.
"My mister" succeeded on showing us an unconventional relationship, how two different people from drastically different backgrounds can still form a very strong bond. For those, who still emphasises the fact that DH is still married and it will be immoral to have some kind of relationship with JA will be immoral, I'll say this: DH and YH's marriage has been dead and just a formality even before YH started cheating on DH. This is the time DH realizes and acknowledges that he can't keep on latching on a dead relationship just to make others happy. New DH can and should move on with his life and leave every toxic person and thing behind him.
For the last part, I'll still fo back to the age gap part. Those who have payed attention to my posts have probably read how I've never actually seen their big age difference. Even from the start, IU and LSK's unexpected couple is what drew me to this drama and "my mister" actually completely erased any dynamics that could indicate that DH and JA are actually from very different generations. I only see two people who empower each other, make each other happier, help each other overcome the difficulties in life and heal each other.
The age gap was never an issue to begin with except for immature people and knetz spreading hate about this show through social media. Obviously we are at the mercy of the writer and PD in terms of the ending. I am not expecting a lot of skinship but maybe a hand holding or an affectionate hug is already enough for me if this couple will be endgame. I agree with you that anything more than that will not be consistent with the tone of the show. Besides, LSG and IU have such an intense sexual tension that they can sell me anything at this point. There are so many rationalizations from the denier side/non-shipper side about Jian's confession. Seriously how many times does that girl need to confess before they acknowledge that her feelings are for real. Now it is about "hero worship" (another rationalization
) Does Jian looks like someone that will fangirl over someone as if DH is an idol or something? She made her feelings known 4 times already as if that wasn't clear enough. For a non-romance, we surely got so many confessions1) with Gwang Il on episode 8 or 9
2) The argument on episode 10
3) the train ride on episode 12
4) to Yeon Hee on episode 12
This appears to be her first time falling for someone which in my opinion made the show even more interesting. Jian is a bad girl and an imperfect heroine with so many shady qualities. If this is any other k-drama, she will be a second lead that can turn into a villain and not worthy of the hero's love. She is not the type that will fall for someone quickly knowing how much bolts and chains that are wrapped around that girl's heart. We don't really know the extent of her dealings with the loan shark's father in the past but I can assume she may have met so many men that are scumbags in her lifetime. It is enough for her to hate on corporate men without any qualms in ruining their lives for money. Jian changed significantly as her relationship with DH got deeper. He is like the beacon of light that makes her believe for a brighter future despite her grim past. I don't think she is expecting anything in return with her confession or even entertain the possibility that DH will reciprocate her feelings. Jian wants to protect DH because she unconditionally loves that man.
About the marriage part, the discussion in the back pages were about the DC forums still insisting about the age gap and unhappy because DH is married. Although I'm a shipper, I am actually one of those conservative k-drama viewers. DH needs to make a decision first about his marriage with YH before confronting his feelings for Jian.
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9 hours ago, 2handsintertwined said:
I know you weren't talking to me, but I'm going to jump into this discussion. I hope you don't mind
And you don't have to respond! You're right. I never thought about this. I think it is morally wrong too. DH is still married to YH. So how can he be with JA? I'm reading what you're saying, and I understand. You said you can't go through another week of DH moping around and not deciding anything. I noticed he does this too. I was thinking, "Please decide on something" as I was watching the last episodes. I guess you read my mind? Well, I agree the production does need to work on him because it looks like he might never decide what he wants to do. You think he's bordering towards becoming a wimpy character?! Can I disagree? I think he's bordering on becoming lonely because he never shares his feelings with anyone. When he is with Ji-An I still don't think he shares all of his feelings with her. I think she has become more open, but I don't know about him...Like you said, hopefully the production works on him . I think Lee Sun Kyun is such a great actor and I think he acts with emotion! I've only seen him in Coffee Prince. I haven't seen his other works. So you probably don't care what I think about his acting! . And now I'm watching My Mister. I want to watch his other works too. I just hope DH doesn't become wimpy. I think LSK is too good for that
Hi
I appreciate your time reading my endless rants Our ajusshi is a lonely man but I don't think he really minds it either. He was ok being on his own world until one day that female co-worker asked him to buy her food and eat dinner. My rant is actually just me being restless with the story I know this is a realistic drama but goodness DH decide on something instead of focusing on the philosophical meaning of life. I just don't want his character to be a calculating person that always weigh the options in life by numbers. This is why he was living in misery in the first place. Sometimes you just need to say eff it! I will do what makes me happy! MA successfully integrated an important social commentary to Asian society in general where family is the sole center of a person's universe that it can also take away their individuality and free thinking as adults. There is always a delicate balance between living within our family's expectations and living life in our own terms not caring whether people disapprove of it. With DH, it is always his constant anxiety not to be able to live up with those expectations and make a mistake. He is a working progress but there is a lot of talk and soju shots without any progress I really do hope the production is working on his character like ASAP.
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13 minutes ago, Wotad said:
I mean couldn't that also be because this drama is more serious so attracts more male's.?
I mean they have already crossed that line then because you can tell by the way he yearns for her that he pretty much need's her, and she already has feelings for him. It doesn't need to be a love story to have love at the end of it. I think she will leave because she will hurt being around him if she cant be with him. I also dont think its crossing a line if two people who find happiness together to have a relationship.
I know chingu
I'm just trying to keep my expectations very low just in case this show will try to sucker punch me next week.. They have obviously crossed the line the minute she confessed her feelings. DH is in love with her too. I just hope he can be more vocal about it.
Sure adoption is a possibility. DH can adopt Jian when he marries her in the future
. That would make them family right?
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5 hours ago, tiger457_stv said:
Plus he probably feels guilty if he declares to a girl not much older than his son. Until that guilt can be resolved, there cannot be a declaration. Ajusshi is not a man who declare to someone without the intention of taking responsibility for her. At this point he is not prepared for that.
So he stays in his comfort zone, ignores her statements, and just enjoys his moments
with her...until she decide to leave. Then he will have to confront this ambiguity head-on.We at Soompi have written many pages about our wishes for the endings. Reality is we don't know.
Will there be a beautiful lifelong friendship, a beautiful but short term friendship or full
blown love story.... any of which can realistically occur at this point. in 2.7 weeks we will know!Apologies for cutting the post short. I agree with some of your valid points. Since this ajusshi cannot take responsibility for Jian, isn't it more fitting for him to avoid her and stop yearning for her company? He involuntary waits outside of Jung Hee's bar or @berny once called it his nightly landscaping survey
. Also he demanded Jian to buy him another slippers like dude are you really that clueless to think the "slippers" are just slippers for Jian. There is a reason our girl threw them away in the first place. He is older than her so the man should have known better that she wants more than what he can offer her. I don't think the feelings of guilt with the age gap, failing marriage are the culprits for his indecisiveness. The main reason he is simply just being Dong Hoon that loves to play safe because of his fear of making a mistake. So he deflects and deflects then calculate and overthinks.. Sometimes in life there are no right or wrong choices, just make a decision then move on. He cannot go on fiddling around two women and chain them up in his world of purgatory. That's unfair too. I love this Ajusshi's character but the production needs to put some courage into the guy to take over his life and happiness. He is in real danger to be that annoying spineless character if things don't turn around for him by episode 13-14.
I disagree that Jian is ambiguous or is playing safe with her feelings. She is just not the type of girl who says saranghae to any living form and that is just her norm. It is already a big deal for her cold as ice personality to say she likes someones and enjoy the company of another person. Jian is decisively direct with her feelings in one big blow and as DH puts it a crazy bitsin. She will leave no matter what the decision of DH will be. It is the right thing to do in their situation and she is already happy enough to just experience love like a normal human being. So if this not a full blown love story, the production should just leave this as a pure case of hero worship for the non-shippers or unrequited love for the romantics. Don't cross the line unless if this is really a Darcy romance as intended from the beginning.
@danielassny welcome. please feel free to pitch in
I agree that DB is too neutral with their reviews. I get their need to push for a platonic relationship but its ending up to be so overly cautious and one dimensional. Oh please we don't hopelessly run and constantly long for our friends like that no matter how special they are. Don't get me started about the other incest theories-
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4 hours ago, africandramalover said:
Is it because of the strict hierarchical structure in Korea that they cannot see a loveline? Or is it because it's IU and Koreans cannot see her as anything more than the Nation's Little Sister? Are the Korean viewers still infantilising her? Is her idol status a liability?
This backlash in Korea has made me wonder, which other actress could have played this role and allowed for a full on romance without backlash? Who doesn't have baggage? Yoon Eun Hye could steam the screen, if she could dissolve into that gritty thug called Ji An. Which other actress do you think could do this role?
The mixture of immature fans and haters are the problem. And I agree some korean fans still love to infantilise IU which she has been trying to shed off that image for years. A good example is Kim Taeri doing Mr Sunshine with LBH and I haven't heard any big backlash about the project. IU picked MA to avoid being typecasted with innocent-princess type roles. She wants to be taken seriously as an actress so it is imperative for her trying out different edgy female roles. Whether her fan base like it or not, IU is a grown woman (26 years old now) so eventually she will have intimate scenes with her onscreen partners (older or same age actors) in future projects. In fact, IU is not that conservative as an actress (kudos to her!). I mean she is way liberal compared to Jun Ji Hyun in her 20's that didn't even allow a single kissing scene back in the day.
Another actress? I don't think I can imagine another playing Jian as perfect as IU. Thinking about it, I will be curious what Chae Soo Bin's take on the role?
5 hours ago, akhenaten said:LSK and IU should really do a film together, and it should be one with a mature theme, and it should become a hit critically and commercially. Just so their negative comments will fly in the face of those doubting Thomases who keep on harping about how icky and weird their age gap is in a romantic setting. And they should kiss and make out like there’s no tomorrow. Hahahaha!!!
They should!!! that chemistry is sizzling hot. Imagine those two kissing passionately, probably we all need to turn on the AC
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1 hour ago, mushroomsoupie said:
The people in the DC inside forum post a lot of detailed analysis regarding the characters in My Mister, mainly DH and JA. But they always emphasize the human to human, platonic relationship between the two. Not romance.
Are they pro or against the loveline?
You have no idea. I think most of the korean commenters are against the age gap. They don't like the age gap and the fact that DH is married and has a child. Every time someone suggests that there's a romantic relationship between DH and JA, people will bash that person and call him / her a hater. I think most of them are like the folks at Drama Beans, where they root for them to have a platonic relationship, suggesting that romance will ruin that precious bond between them.
I honestly don't mind the disparity of interpretations of this drama. That's exactly the beauty of it. This drama is filled with a lot of "grey" characters and relationships, that are difficult to be defined. But i just hope no matter how the writer and the team decide to end this drama (romance or no romance), they won't get unnecessary bashing and controversies. Although if I can be honest, I'm rooting for DH and JA to admit their feelings to each other by the end of this drama.
They have a point though DH is still married to YH. So the possibility of entertaining a romance between DH and JA is morally wrong at the moment. I agree with another poster that Jian needs to leave because it will force DH to confront and decide about his marriage. I don't know about you guys but I cannot go through another week of Dong Hoon moping around and not deciding on anything. The productions needs to work on their male lead because he is bordering towards becoming a wimpy character if he keeps this up.
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1 hour ago, sadiesmith said:
I will go by the character chart and reassure myself that DH-YH is not the end game. Doesn't mean they won't have the brothers and Jung Hee adopt Ji An though.
Found this Korean article comparing Pretty Noona and My Ajusshi. Going by Google translate, it doesn't seem to be a favorable article for our show. Can someone who reads Korean tell me if I am right? Is this representative of the overall sentiment over there?
http://stoo.asiae.co.kr/news/view.htm?idxno=2018042613411059096
I have nothing against Jung Hee being more involved with Jian. They are so cute together. JH is a happy go lucky hipster and Jian is the exact opposite. We needs more girl friendships in MA. Can Jung Hee also take Yura under her wings? I swear these girls needs to go out and have a drink or something. The brothers are way too immature to adopt a 21 year old. Sang Hoon already has a daughter and KiHoon didn't reach puberty yet, the guy has a temper of a 2 year old
. Who is left? right Dong Hoon? That's a good way of sinking the ship if he files adoption papers for Jian Isn't she too old to be adopted though? I mean she is not living in an orphanage or anything..
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41 minutes ago, MsMinnieFran said:
If MA wants a different/shocking ending, have DH marry JA..that would shock pants off. If they want less fantasy more reality....nah probably still fantasy, put them in bed together. If they prefer to hit me in the feels, have them kiss. If they just want me to be satisfied, have DH admit he likes/loves JA. If they want me to take a plane to Korea, find them and throw rocks at them, have one of them die, have DH and JA separate without DH admitting to anything, try to turn their relationship (DH amd JA) into a father and daughter/brother and sister/mentor and mentee relationship or make it an open ending.
I'm going to add chingu if you don't mind
The real shocking ending is to have MA production team attempt to revive the DOA marriage of Dong Hoon and Yeon Hee. I don't think a power line is enough to give that relationship any spark. They can try using the whole power grid in the Hoover Dam as a last attempt.. Talking about a Frankenstein move
I will throw rocks at TVN if this turns out to be a father-daughter relationship (effin double puke**)
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@snowdragon09 lmao. I thought for a while there I was in a wrong space and click a wrong link
7 hours ago, ninaanin said:If the last scenario happens with MA, I won't think it is an open end because we know they love each other: they stare at each other and smile, this situation in itself would speaks volume because the whole attraction and love built in the drama was axed in stares, walking side by side, few smiles and many breaths. With their chemistry, just staring and smile would say to me that they are together.
The problem to me is that, after episode 10, the way things are develloping asks for more than that. We are witnessing the growing of DH and JA's passion. The way they are repressing that (JA because she is hopeless; DH because he can't accept/aknowledge it) would ask - narratively - for a cathartic end, for a explosive way to deal satisfactorily with all this tension. Anything less than that, to me, wouldn't do the drama justice. That's all.
This show is in danger of misleading the audience in a big way if DH will continue to long for Jian and cannot make a decision about Yeon Hee. I am overlooking it for now but his character will annoy me after next week if he remains the usual indecisive Dong Hoon. I know MA is a unique drama but there are certain rules in storytelling like building up a tension is ok in the beginning but by 90% of the drama those feelings between the lead characters should be made clear. It can be a big unforgivable misstep if the PD will keep on dragging this Jian-DH saga without any declaration from the male lead then give us a safe open ending or worst he ends up again with his wife. I am one of those many viewers that will find this offensive and felt I was being lead on the wrong way just for the ratings. As much as I adore KWS, I am not that forgiving once disappointed. He should know better and not disrespect the intelligence of his viewers. However, if there will be more longing and confession by next week then I have no choice but to expect an endgame (happy or tragic) to the epic love story of DH and Jian. I will patiently wait until our handsome ajusshi is capable of having a Darcynian moment and fight for Jian.
Again, please don't pursue the romance angle if MA production is not capable of going all the way. Just make this about unrequited love and end it there.
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12 hours ago, MsMinnieFran said:
I wish there they could sort out DH's marriage situation behind the scenes and just tell us the outcome via text running across the screen or something..It is a combination of me finding his interactions with his wife claustrophobic and depressing, and me being impatient like " Hurry up and make a decision already..I am tired of this!". I know it can be a slow process in reality, I just don't want to see it in film. It is like watching depressing paint dry.
Edit: And when his wife left the decision to SH whether they split or not I was like "NO! he is very bad at that!"
12 hours ago, berny said:The Preview
It seems they are congratulating DH, it seems they are celebrating... could he be Director already?
He became Director ? and chose to stay with his cheating wife ? ...... isn't that awesome? but look at DH in the preview he looked more dead now... more weary... it's like the world had gotten even heavier than before... without that small, little bean who keep nagging him to buy her food, and rides trains with him, who drink beer with him after work, who says words that shocks and rattles him, and walk with him going home.
I keep on waiting for this show to sink the ship every week since episode 7. Giving the production ample chances to clear up and end the longing of Jian and Dong Hoon for each other. The back pages of this space are full of rationalization from different users. By episode 13-14, I want DH to pick Yeon Hee already because she is the safest and the most responsible choice for him. I may want to throw my remote into the TV screen but it does not matter coz they are married for 20 years so that's a more realistic ending. A safer choice which makes complete sense to someone like him with a safe personality. What's another 20 years of feeling dead? He already suffered anyway. I want the PD/writer combo to kill all my hopes of a soulmate and true love scenario with DH and Jian as quickly as possible. So that I can move on and call this a non-romance healing drama.
IU (Lee Jieun) was being asked during the special about which My Ajusshi OST she was listening to lately which kept me thinking.. We all have our favorites in this forum from Sondia to Vincent Blue.. even Whitney Houston for some users. Aside from the obvious favorites, I think the song "With or Without You" by U2 best described the struggle of Dong Hoon in making the decision which path to choose in his current non-romance relationship with Jian. Through the years, this song have many different interpretations but as an adult that experienced the idiosyncrasies of love the damn song is stuck in my heard for 3 weeks now while being consumed with this couple from MA. From my perspective Jian is all wrong for DH in every way - the lies (wiretap), social status, ex-convict, age difference, etc.. so it makes perfect sense he will choose YH despite her cheating right? However, it appears the story is not heading that way and the damn U2 song keeps on popping in my head again as I watch previews of episode 13-14.
With or Without you? what the heck is that even mean? Their relationship is a walking contradiction altogether. Both already know they are wrong for each other. Let's summarize. He suffered so much being with Jian from their explosive arguments, uncertainty, constant longing, nervousness, and angry rage. Such an ordeal for DH to feel out of control all the time because of her and not to mention their age difference will be judged by many people and rumors will be circulating in their workplace. So that's why I want the show to stop and end the yearning by next week!
What is DH like without Jian? Ahh yes the question reserved for episode 13-14. Here's what I don't like to see: longing, running towards her, weariness, and DH acting more dead. I don't want to believe and expect that KWS "a PD allergic to love stories" just brilliantly sold me TRUE LOVE from a realistic adult POV and perfectly described the feeling as a series of walking contradictions. From DH's perspective, he can't live with or without Jian. She is all wrong for him and he will suffer being with her, but at the same time living without her is far painfully worse and might even kill him. Either way, he suffers with or without her. So DH please pick your poison?
PDnim and Writernim, please end the longing by next week. I don't want to root for them as an OTP and assume that you will possibly give us the most romantic love story in kdramaland even without the skinship. This couple if they are endgame will knock out all my other OTPs in recent memory and shoot straight to the top. So please do me a favor and hit the back of my head as early as possible?
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47 minutes ago, akhenaten said:
Can’t they be endgame without it being explicitly shown? I mean, no grand gestures or overwhelmingly romantic scenes. Anyway, subtlety has always been the norm for MA. And the way things are between Dong Hoon and Ji An, words seem irrelevant. But I just want the writer and director to tell the story that they wanted to tell from the beginning, be it an all-out romance, a subtle love story, a human tragedy, or all of the above. At this point, they shouldn’t even let those naysayers (or even those who are pro-OTP) influence their execution.
@akhenaten The writers never let up since episode 5 about their connection. The longing keeps getting worst between DH and Jian. The story has been consistent all the way through. Now, our ajusshi appears poignantly running towards her house. A man does not run like that for just a co-worker or a mere friend. The main reason there is a pro-OTP stand is because of all the longing scenes between the two leads as presented in the drama. The ending will be subtle and heartwarming. But hey, I wouldn't mind hand holding, etc.. if they will be endgame.
I think the PD/writer is already telling their story consistent with the script despite the controversies. KWS and writer Park are no push-overs so MA will end based on their vision of the story line. TVN is giving this a go ahead no matter what it is, because they have another big age gap romance coming down the pipe with Mr Sunshine. Also, it seems that domestic audience don't mind the possible romance considering episode 12 is the highest rated so far.
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34 minutes ago, sadiesmith said:
But dear friend, don't forget there is the other half of the viewing population who will feel extremely betrayed in a big way if this drama becomes another "cliche-romance drama." I've seen plenty of those comments, especially at Dramabeans. But elsewhere, too. They have even referred to this space as "shippers' paradise." hahaha... So if the Korean viewers are similarly represented, well ...
Just a disclaimer my friend: I am a long time Beanie but left the site because I felt that the reviews over there just don't get this story. MA is a unique show that reading one review is limiting the thinking process in my opinion. This show is open to many different interpretations and I am glad Soompi allows different exchange of ideas. I enjoyed this space so much and openly vent about MA.
The story of DH and Jian is nothing but cliche..
in fact we are wishing it to be less exciting and follow the usual k drama tropes. Shipper's paradise?.. lol.. chingu, I don't want to be a shipper but we just need to call things as it is, and not hide into rationalization that does not make sense just because of the age-gap difference. It stopped being delulu the minute Jian confessed her feelings to DH. Maybe the other half should wake up and smell the coffee. BTW, it looks like another episode going to the shipper with DH running like there is no tomorrow trying to catch something or someone that is holding his heart?
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47 minutes ago, sadiesmith said:
Did you catch his expression when older brother Sang Hoon gives him a big hug (congratulating him on promotion, I think)? He looks very sad and alone, and totally heartbreaking.
This is what I am afraid of.. DH looks like he still misses Jian even after the possible wiretap revelation. Darn it! now I have no choice but to expect an endgame for them like a real OTP. It seems from the celebratory scene Jian might have already left him. I just hope the writers don't mess up the ending because if my impression is right from the preview, their non-romance longing for each other will not be over and it will keep on breaking my heart.
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1 hour ago, sadiesmith said:
And who is the woman sitting a few chairs away from him in Jung Hee's bar? She does not quite look like Yoon Hee.
probably just a random female customer at the bar. DH looks so bleak and drinking alone again. Ok, is he suppose to be happy because of the possible promotion and all? Everyone so proud of him and the whole neighborhood cheering on. I guess the promotion does not really affect his mood either way.
1 hour ago, africandramalover said:Shoes can become their "thing".....
slippers and rubber shoes (that's what we call those converse shoes....)
She was running to him, now he's running to her.... I started singing "Run to you" by Whitney Houston when I saw him cut the corner like that!
DH has a footwear fetish
.. first thing that amused him about Jian was her no socks sneakers. And the guy went on rampage coz of the slippers.
I think the song "Rainbow" by Vincent Blue is the official running song of MA
. That song is addicting and always reminds me of Jian running and checking on DH. Although with so many running scenes between them, the song "Run To You" is also a perfect fit.
1 hour ago, mujay said:His"pillar"is gone
He lost direction and become "timer bom" could exploade anytime.
No one would soothe him when he felt vulnerable.
Rub his heart with magic words"you are good person"
Love so much the intensity of this drama.
Sad overall. I could understand Jian for leaving him. It still breaks my heart. I can't
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7 hours ago, justamom said:
Dong Hoon: thanks for listening to my side (haha)
Ji An(I think, voice sounds strange, is she crying): from the first time we met, I thought you were a good person. What does it mean to be human? That’s what I thought from the start.
Dong Hoon: Let’s be happy. We can be happy. It’s alright. We will be happy. We will be happy.
Oh man that scene of Dong Hoon chasing after Ji An. Oh man. Oh my. All those feels
Thank you so much for the translation
. The previews are rough cuts of the dialogues from different characters so it's hard to determine which one is saying to whom or what not.. JYD will most likely reveal Jian's wiretap to Dong Hoon after their confrontation as a form of revenge.
I think we all know the what street looks like heading to Jian's house by now
Why is our Ajusshi running towards that street as if his life depends on it? Purely heartbreaking
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7 hours ago, tiger457_stv said:
If Ji-an is going to integrate into society as a decent citizen who can socialize with others, then the wire tap matter must be told. It in fact is the 2nd biggest barrier between Engineer Dong Hoon and Jian (the other being the 24 years differences). For them to have any kind of long term relation (platonic or otherwise).... this matter must be resolved (probably explosively).
Making the right decision is often hard....but it is still the right decision.
Jian is already integrating into the society these last couple of episodes. She is trying to come out of the dark but of course her wrong decisions from the beginning have consequences so she needs to make amends one way or another. A decent citizen? what is that even mean? The fact she ripped off JYD of $10,000, I applauded her so much for doing it. I have no remorse towards that little weasel. Jian is the anti-heroine of MA. She does not have a heart of gold. I love that writer Park pens her female characters this way and not put them high up into the pedestal like any other kdrama heroine that's too perfect you can choke on it
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Let's not cherry pick which crimes in this show are worth punishing and be harsh on Jian for her wrongdoings. As I said, if we start enumerating all the disgusting things the corporate guys are doing to each other, the loan shark beatings, betrayals, and adultery. The wiretapping is not the biggest crime imo. Do you guys honestly think PDW is that innocent of a victim for getting demoted? Oh please he is as cunning as JYD too. He would have made a move if JYD start getting in his way for the promotional path. Almost everyone is just as greedy and twisted all in the name of money, power, and advancement in this show.
If Dong Hoon is expecting an innocent woman, then he should look elsewhere because Jian is no angel. The only barrier is the expectation that Jian in order to deserve DH's love she needs to have a pure heart.. Another double standard? The wiretapping is not a new ploy in kdramaland. The only difference is that if a male anti-hero does the deed, it is considered romantic and K drama audience (majority females) are more forgiving and sympathetic towards his tough background. It looks like PDH didn't lose anything aside from his privacy because of the wiretap. He is getting the promotion too. Jian is moving away and losing the man she loves in the process. Isn't that enough of a redemption? DH does not deserve her if he cannot forgive the mistakes and accepts everything about Jian.
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3 hours ago, MsMinnieFran said:
I know i am alone in this....but i don't think DH needs to find out about the phone tap. I going to assume that she is going to stop at some point...and i don't see the benefit to him knowing at this point. If she was still looking to harm him, then i would be all for it..all this knowledge will do is hurt him, unnecessarily, without any benefit for the future. If i felt like she didn't understand that phone tapping was wrong, and that she needs to learn the lesson, then i would be all for it..but she knows wrong from right, she just chooses to do certain things because she feels that is the only/fastest way to get big money.
I feel like JA has been punished all her life she doesn't need anymore punishment, she needs rehabilitation.
If we are going to punish Jian for the wiretapping, then shouldn't we also put to jail every backstabbing corporate guys, Gwang Il, and JYD too. My point is why Jian should be put at the center of ethical discussion where everyone in this show is more screwed up and greedier than her. She is just a part of the manipulative corporate world where the scums destroy and blackmail each other for power. Jian is like the female version of the Healer where she becomes a fixer to these ambitious men for money. BTW, the Healer also wiretapped the female lead I haven't heard any ethical qualms about it when the show was airing
. In fact, the guy didn't even go to jail and lived happily ever after with the girl. Are we quick on passing judgments towards the imperfect female heroine than we are on their male counterparts? Come on now even the Healer didn't get arrested, so why would Jian take the moral high ground because she is female?
I agree there is no point in revealing the wiretap especially if she will leave DH as planned and get out of his life. DH will be upset but seriously the wiretap did more good than harm in his life. The guy is even getting a promotion. In fact, Jian is the one in more trouble for betraying JYD and might cost her life and freedom for taking DH's side.
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when I say sink the ship this week.. I really mean it damn it!!!!!! Dear show I already packed my tents in the delulu island. WTH!!!! The paper work is all done for me ready to leave.. WTF!!! are they really an OTP??? OMG!!!
? He is fine as long as Jian is in the confines of his world and workplace. It is selfish but that is DH's personality. The same way that he keeps YH in the state of purgatory. Always the safe approach and too afraid to take a step. I could understand the frustration of some people here because of the ambiguity but what else is new? This show has been walking that fine line of grey area since episode 7. DH's character frustrates me a lot in this episode but I could forgive him a little because his brothers found out about the affair. So, the whole family dynamic needs to be shown and fleshed out. I really hate the fact that Dong Hoon still choose to remain a spectator in his own life. He would rather just suffer instead of dealing the hard choice of a crumbling marriage. I agree with 
.. but of course this is just my own humble opinion.
Our ajusshi as always doing the unpredictable, my heart couldn't stop beating the whole time. I always thought Jian was the one more into DH but this episode throw a huge freakin wrench into that belief. DH is just as crazy and his world literally stopped without Jian. WTH is going on here? Their longing for each other is so intense that it hurts my heart seeing them apart.
- darn it! I better not give them any ideas
. Thank you for the people that translated the upcoming teaser and spoiler clip. I am feeling the heartbreak coming up
. It appears DH already knows about the wiretap. Will there be an argument at least before the ship will sink?
lol.
Episodes 13-14 better be epic especially this production has been torturing us for 2 weeks.
. That would make them family right?
Isn't she too old to be adopted though? I mean she is not living in an orphanage or anything..
slippers and rubber shoes (that's what we call those converse shoes...
. The previews are rough cuts of the dialogues from different characters so it's hard to determine which one is saying to whom or what not.. JYD will most likely reveal Jian's wiretap to Dong Hoon after their confrontation as a form of revenge.
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Chingu my apologies. I am just in awe shock and speechless with that ending. The first thing that came into my mind is OTP but of course they are more than that.. Calling them a generic k-drama term is a pure insult to their story.
DH never cared. He consistently stood by her no matter what. Always taking her side and never doubted her. Holding that phone in his hand became more important now than anything in the world. I don't know about you guys but my heart couldn't stop palpitating..