vilavila Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Hello fellow shippers! This is my first post, but I have been following your posts in this thread and the main thread for a while now. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, insights and recaps on this drama. I do not have any insight to share at this time. I do not speak Korean, and I find it hard to pay attention to all the details in the show while reading subtitles. In any case, I thought I should pop in and say hello and thank you to you all. I have enjoyed watching the drama. But at this time, I am going through a heartbreak because of Jung Hwan. I find Jung Hwan to be the one character who has been explored in the most intimate way possible, so much so that I feel he is someone I have come to know inside out. His pain feels like my pain. To see a person like him not receiving the love he so deserves is simply too heartbreaking for me. So to save myself from further agony, I plan to wait until I find out who the husband is, so that I can come to terms with it (if I have to) and then enjoy the rest of the story and characters. Coming back to the drama, one thing that bothers me a bit is why did Taek lie to Jung Hwan in the football field? Because of that lie, I think I like Taek as a character a bit less, which should not be taken as being offensive by TK-DS shippers. I don't dislike him; I just like him less. That's all. I will be checking back to read Blue Angel's post that you have been mentioning. Fighting! 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scualquiercosa Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 My friends, I have something to ask you, when Forest Gump concept start, Jung Hwan and Deuk Sun go out almost at the same time un the morning, then we see DS watching the film with her date. Jung Hwan will make his appearence very late in DR restaurant, He has bought three book and a CD... Do you know what are they about, some clue maybe? And another thing, when they are taking about going to the cinema DS said that She has gonna but already kno, but Taek too, with who??? Some girl maybe?? Could He have a girlfriend or something like that and anyone know about, that the reason because He said to SW shut up when He said: Do you not know why? I's because all the girls rejected him..... Maybe He wanted to say himself with his girlfriend in another situation not there, maybe in the bar scene, and maybe DS knew it the concert's day and that the reason She keep looking to the door??? What do you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balladblue Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 57 minutes ago, MrsSoJiSub said: There is only one couple who fits this the cintematic theme of love prevails over everything and that is Deok Sun and Junghwan. They survived Sunwoo, they survived bro over __ code, they survived friends rooting for the other dude, they survived misunderstanding, they survived, time, they survived confusion. When you thought all hope is lost and sometimes true love doesn't win out (episode 18 anyone) we will see that no the heart goes where the heart must be. Look I am not disregarding Taek and his love, but where were the obstacles, where was that true heartbreak of longing and yearning that these types of stories likes to display. We only saw (I said saw as in explicitly had displayed to our eyes and not need a magnifying glass to display) and got this emotional pay off with him once, once and that was when he called and cancelled the movie date and cried. We have all talked about how easy it would be for Taek and Deok Sun to be together (and their would be an easy relationship like that of Sunwoo's mama and Taek's appa) all one need do is confess. But how long have we seen Junghwan being broody, and angst, and fake laughing to hide the pain, and crying in cars and confessing but "oh lord kill my heart" does she not feel the same? He's leaving the next day, it's going to end like that? NO, their love is the challenging, hard, "epic" ones most of us like to see win out. It hasn't been an easy road for these two and it continues to not be an easy one. There are literally many a traffic lights keeping them apart...but just like Allie drove back to Noah even though it looked like she was going to James Madersen, just like Jenny finally wrote the letter to Forrest, Oppa made the call, Yoonjae bumped into Shiwon at the cafe...Junghwan and Deok Sun will comeback to one another. This is a gem. Your comments are always a treat to read. This one in particular had me throwing my head back laughing at the capslock parts (SO TRUE!!!) and clapping my hands in agreement at the same time. Please don't ever stop. You guys, the emotional payoff we're going to get is going to be AWESOME. I go to bed dreaming about various scenarios in which they get together and their lovey dovey moments. @wizengamot and @fictionista Thank you <3 ^^ 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrsSoJiSub Posted January 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2016 I am going to die when a preview comes out Wednesday. Good lord all sides are going to analyze and over analyze that preview sooo much. I can foresee like 50000 posts being made on and about the less than a minute clip we shall get. The analyzing of episode title to come... May the odds be ever in our favor.. ETA: yup no matter how many times I watch that confession it still hits me in the feels. Also having watched R97 Yoonjae confession last night the two are so similar. Also it's the directing because seeing it again Hyeri's reaction (or lack of as some believe) is similar to Eunji's. They both just sit and listen and allow it to soak in. We don't seen much from her till after he leaves and says he'll never see her again and the thinking on the bus... Also Junghwan was not joking and Deok Sun most definitely knows it. Both are going along with Sunwoo and Dong Ryeong to avoid the awkward. I so hope we get to see round 2 and a moment of just then two or if Taek joins, 3 in a room. Lawds the confession is one huge pink elephant in the room now. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vannyah M Posted January 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2016 This is rough translation of this links. http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=589321&page=1 DS`s friends are from Seoul aren't they coming home often? I want to say why i am wondering. Basically if TK is home arent they seeing each other quite a little? Or Tk is really busy so he cant meet with gang for 5 years. So she cant meet him (TK) is that it? And about JH in addition to the highly emotional conversion in the second half she did not expect it at all Basically they are thinking the same as we do. http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=589320&page=1 6.1.1995 in Gyeongnam Hadong County 4 people died, fighter pilots from Gyeongnam Sacheon Air Command 3rd Air Corps Training Department Spoiler To me this is more a prediction but ok JH`s in combat plain at a height of countless kilometers dies in accidents ( p.s. this spoiler scared the richard simmons out of me) If not, DS heard the news and went all the way to Sacheon, they have dramatic reunion and they get married. I expect that story will go like this. P.S. I have not translated part encircled with red sorry, but it says that last names of 2 persons who died is Kim 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misshoggy Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) @honeywell It's An Empty Heart by Lee Seung Hwan. It was the same song JH put on during the sleepover in the beginning of the episode. Posted up a translation of it earlier in the thread (435??). It's a really sad song. Edit:Gah wrong song, that's during the montage. The end song is by Jo Jeong Hyeon, just don't remember the title. Will get back to you. Edited January 10, 2016 by misshoggy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilan Karapınar Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 30 minutes ago, Vy Ho said: Another day without AM88 is as hell. I spent my Sunday morning + afternoon to rewatch ALL JH-DS MOMENTS on tvN's Youtube channel. I should stand up and give AM88's producer big applause because they're truly deserved it . I look back and remember how I was noticing JH's smirk when they watched Olympic. "Aha! you must be sth this namja" In next episodes, JH sweet, caring actions to DS made my heart fluttered as richard simmons ~.~ I was like "whoaaa! plz slow down, I can't handle this yassss ". Then, I had become an aggressive viewers since JH knew TK's feeling and PD-nim made uri JH sad, suffered and disappeared somewhere...omfg And now, in 1994, uri shippers have to suffer the other challenge - THE INFAMOUS PROPOSAL I really don't know what to expect from the remain episodes except JH is the husband because there are a lot of scenarios in my mind : the "left behind" ring, TK, DS kept looking at the door, awkwardness between DS-JH?!?!....aigeu~ molla! Hope we have a "reasonable" ending for everybody in Ssangmundong . Lastly, I enjoy reading your comments so bad, thank you & please keep being positive guys! Hwaiting! ^^ P/s: I've been SONE for 7 years. Because of this "not even good looking", sweet, thoughtful namja and his pure love to sonyeo named DS , I've not updated much news about GG LOL He's a hole which is visible but you just can't avoid it. If you have felt in, there is no escape. I promise to comeback to you soon. Mianhae GG, mianhae Taeyeon unnie! I like your P.S I'm a S♡NE, too... and yeah because of drama I didn't even listen uri soshi...cause I felt gloomy because of drama and drama's OSTs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly86 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 @ner54 Yes, this one. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post adurian Posted January 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2016 Aww guys, 448! T__T We were 300 two days ago, awww!!! The camaraderie is strong here on this ship. Yesterday we may have felt like we lost our oars but somehow we are still moving forward steadily! Back to episode 18, after calming myself down and getting ready for the worst, I have finally watched the subbed version with my partner. FYI, he has been watching Reply 1997 with me, and also went through all the time I replayed episode 1-16 of the 1988 series. Because he is quite neutral (with a slight bias for JH because he liked men who could play football well) and analytical, I kinda asked him to tell me what he thought of the husband hunt. After watching, he pretty much laughed at me for sulking since yesterday because in his pov, the husband is still JH and he did not get why I have been so heartbroken about it. So I used the Taek's hints to quiz him and below are his replies: There are times during the episode 17 and 18 where DS apparently wavered but at the end it is still equal for both. The things with you girls (i.e. me) is that you focused solely on the 'clues' and forgot to take a step back. If you did and just calmly imagined yourself as the writer, it would pretty much destroy the flow of the story to switch to Taek for the end game, having 'wasted' so many episodes on JH's character development. On the missed opportunities, Yoon Jae went through so much of that stuff too - and look at what happened to him in the end. That seems to me like the writer's favourite scenario - the guy who unfortunately lost out on the 'perfect timing', got tricked by fate, and suffered so much will have the girl in the end. Why focus so much screen time just to highlight the seconds he missed the window of opportunity? (Big warning - he hasn't seen what happened to Chilbongie...) On DS looking at the door - for him it was a natural thing when you are expecting someone as a group. The key thing is, she did not get distracted during the confession itself, which should be the key sign to focus on. She definitely knows the confession was real and checking the door is her natural reaction / reflex. What if Taek already confessed? - That is okay too. In 97, Shiwon dated Tae Woong before YJ's confession because she was not aware of YJ's feelings for her and her feelings for him. JH's confession was necessary because it would now put two men in front of DS as equal contenders. It doesn't matter if she is already with Taek, now she would have to think about what JH said today and reflect. Without him saying anything, I think you JH shippers would be even more devastated. The banmal thing with Noeul - this one he was not able to give his opinion as he was not familiar with the banmal thing. So, those were his views! He tends to be very good at convincing people due to the nature of his job but this time I think he really got me back to the hopeful zone again. The guy is complaining big time that this week won't be an easy one for him given how emotionally invested I have been on this drama. I hope his analyses turn out to be right though, I really really do! 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vannyah M Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 1 hour ago, MrsSoJiSub said: Even though she hates waking up early, nothing made her happier than seeing him come down the side walk as she hid behind the wall. She wasn't really asleep but just wanted to lay her head on his shoulder. it just occurred to me( me being delulu ) JH stole her first kiss while she was sleeping on his shoulder , that is sooooo kdrama like and we have not seen full bus scene and when they got off the bus. And we get that scene as flashback 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheza Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 @MrsSoJiSub I simply love you! You have renewed my faith to believe in my instincts that JH is husband. I also cannot give any technical analysis on camera angles and script writing but somehow I feel that JH is husband. Sometimes I wonder if that makes me a JH shipper even though I had claimed I am not but I stick to my original gut feel. I did not have any predisposition to like any of the actors or characters but it is the way the story flows that makes me feel that JH should be husband. So Jungpal fighting! 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsSoJiSub Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 But that pregnant pause after his confession where he says nothing....what did he read in that moment? (Damn you camera for not showing her you purposely tormenting PDs) he just looks........................."is that enough" what did you read in those eyes? What did you see? Did he mind read "ooooo little boy we gonna talk. Not right now in front of our friends, but you wait till we get home. We goin to talk" you know that look my mom would send when I was young that let me know I richard simmons up and she gon beat the black off me when we get home....what did you read in that moment Junghwan? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saregama Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 @balladblue your post on the MT about the whole missed encounter is very beautiful. ..clap clap..I have to back read several pages here so have not come across it yet on this thread.Yep I am still reading main thread ...it has its side effects. As soon as I saw TK birthday party in episode 18 I was like omo how many wedding parties are we going to have... Since I watched some scenes multiple times I could catch some color hint.JH drives car with green license plate. DS pager is yellow. For the concert DS wore a red and blue tshirt. The concert had mostly banners in red and yellow.Usually they mix lot of colors but I did not catch any green on banners ,posters etc. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunklunk Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I am more concerned at how people still thinking JH isn't the male lead. From the very start it's always been deoksun and junghwan's journey. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtm89 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 28 minutes ago, MrsSoJiSub said: At first I too thought it was closure and or good-bye then it was like no it's not. This is the perfect setup for an airport meet up or her knocking at his air force door and letting him know that for her it's always been him too. She was happy when she got to walk to school with him. Even though she hates waking up early, nothing made her happier than seeing him come down the side walk as she hid behind the wall. She wasn't really asleep but just wanted to lay her head on his shoulder. Even though she couldn't say it at the time, his getting her the pink gloves..she thought her heart was going to burst. She's never had as much fun or fear at the mall with friends as the day she went to buy him his pink birthday gift. She never thought her heart could hurt so much until she saw that he didn't wear her shirt and he gave it away to Bong. Going to the concert with him is one of the happiest she had ever been and she had wished she could hold his hand everyday. She kept his umbrella and used it. She also wanted to see him everyday. She brought so much food to his house. She was happy whenever she got to see him too. Does he even know why she became a stewardess? Jungbong told her he was going to be a pilot (remember my Jongbong had to be corrected that it was an air force pilot). "I've been waiting for you too. Why didn't you tell me before? Why?" [cue tears and a fitting OST] "I love you too. Ya, I love you" *epic kiss we all been waiting on takes place* The ultimata payoff is going to be better than anything I can think of. I will break out the liquor and dance shoes when it finally happens. this is also what i think that will happen I m having a mental breakdown right now because i m still imagining what is going to happen on the last two episodes. I m trying to stay positive and i don't agree with the people who said on dramabeans that this is a closure and it s a lesson for JH that if you hesitate you lose your chance. I mean i know that this happen in real life but then why the writer is even showing us that he has liked her since episode 1 and even before that. If the writer chose TK as a husband then don't show me this! I think that is so cruel if that is the case. What i think that may happen is that they will reveal us that DS also likes him since longtime ago. We will have a beautiful confession as the one that you wrote and end. About the MT, i m also avoiding it because of the long post. Well i don't remember if it is two different people but i remember one who wrote about baduk and she or he compared it with the scenes. Then i read another one about the script and i thought, am i stupid or are they trying too hard to look intellectual? Anyway, i will keep it simple. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunklunk Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I went to MT just to read @balladblue's post and it's written so beautifully. I just watched the scene this morning and my hearts feels warm just by listening to the bgm. I'm going to watch it again this evening bcs I'm so bussssyyyy hahahah bye guyss (oh please remind me to watch forrest gump) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woundedheart Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Hi guys... Couldn't stay silent longer... I've been so pissed at Jonghwana's so called friends SW & DR.. Couldn't understand how they didn't notice his feelings towards DeokSun.. I've always liked these series even though They made my Chilbongie so heartbroken.. I thought he was the most pitiful one till I came across JongHwana, they managed to torture him till I'm no more interested or curious who's gonna be the husband.. Just want him to smile again, to be happy, to stop breaking his & our heart *sigh* the only good thing abt this Reply 1988 is this amazing actor : Ryu Jun Yeol.. Wanna see more of him after this torture ends.. Was trying to rewatch the whole episodes from the start but couldn't go any further than ep 10.. My heart needs a break.. wanna thank you a lot for all the updates, comments, explanations , hope, positive thoughts yiou've been giving all of us.. Can't thank you enough.. Sorry abt this unorganized thoughts..couldn't do or think any better..but needed to get these out of my chest.. Sorry & thanks *shy* 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkangel Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 8 hours ago, hailaft said: @aishakoe @Awen Noet @GD-ssi annyeong glad to see fellow Indonesians here Hello all, glad to see fellow Indonesians here. Maybe we should watch the next to episodes together and hug each other when things get too hard for JH and Ds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateparade Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I am really curious why DS never once mentioned anything about her feelings for JH back in those years. Was it because her friends and her felt that girls should not confess first? Or was it because that they were unworthy? I recall a scene where she told her another friend why did she confess. 4 more days to Friday! At least in my time zone. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misshoggy Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) End credit song: I Even Loved the Sorrow by Jo Jeong Hyeong. 그 아픔까지 사랑한거야 - 조정현 Rough translation: (Prepare for tissues!)First met you on a silent night and snow was falling,while I was continuously waiting for the one, my love has started.Standing on the street, to meet your eyes,waiting for you despite the inconvenience,on top of me missing you, I wasn’t sad at all.Passing through the snowy night alone,hearing the faraway bell at dawnmy lonely love would’ve been very sad.Wordlessly missing youin my own lonely heart, though it hurt, I even (still) loved the sorrow. Edited January 11, 2016 by misshoggy 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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