ShinRaeMi
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I don't think that HS doesn't trust So. I feel like she just wants to do things on her own and not bother So. She saw So killing Eun and SD on her visions. She knows how So felt when he thought he killed Yo. Haesoo doesn't want to happen it again. She knows WS doesn't want to kill his brother but he might be forced to do it because of her. So, I think the only solution she can think at the moment to prevent it from happening is if So can't find Eun and SD before they can escape.
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39 minutes ago, Caelia Celia said:
even Eun & baek ah .. ?
hmm , Since we all for sure are waiting for so to kill that WY .. can't SO just give WY a huge and deep scars on all his face and body .. then but a salt snd lemon .. sure with a black pepper on it ? then kills him ..
I don't think he will kill Baek Ah...because in the c-version
Spoilerthe 4th didn't kill him. He was sick that's why he died. Also, Eun was alive in the c-version. He is the only one from the princes who has a happy ending - living with a girl he truly love. He didn't kill the 14th also. I hope it would be the same here in the k-version.
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@shiraru Rouxi tried to change it. That's why after they broke up, she warned the 8th about the 4th to avoid bloodshed. Ironically, because of her warning, 8th decided to go against the 4th, and thus the tragedies happened and nothing was changed in the history. So, i think regardless of what Rouxi/HS will do in the past, it won't change the history.
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3 hours ago, Carmarie said:
Question: In the C-version, did Ruoxi marry the 14th prince or just move into his household? I have to watch those episodes again.
He married her. But the 4th did not registered their marriage that's why it is not recorded in history. I remembered Rouxi's servant commenting that the atmosphere inside the 14th's house doesn't seem like there's a wedding going on but he still put something outside the house even if the 4th prohibits him on doing so.
I agree that we shouldn't use Milky Couple because it was taken already. IU's character in Dream High and the guy from 2PM (sorry, i forgot his name) used that name. They are called Milky Couple because they both have milky white skin.
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@atsu-chan I don't think they are switched. Maybe they are just using a different path? Someone mentioned that he saw in the preview that HS and 13th are drinking together. Though I don't know which preview is that. I haven't seen it yet. That's a good thing. It means they will follow the original that they are drinking buddies. Also, HS's cousin once told 13th that she wished that they will become close friends because they have the same personality. In the C-version, Rouxi is called the 13th sister in the beginning since they are so much alike.
@Cindy Ngo being a soulmate doesn't mean you need to be in loved with each other, right? (I don't find it confusing, though :-)) They are best friends and they share a beautiful friendship. He is the only prince whom she can tell everything she wants to say. He even knows more than what the 4th knows (including her relationship with the 8th just like in the K-version). Also, he likes someone else. Rouxi only treated the 14th as her friend. Even if she ended up marrying him, she was not in loved with him. She stayed loyal to the 4th until the very end.
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4 hours ago, luci13 said:
I was quite disturbed with the both previews. WW's grieving so bad over Lady Hee's death is strange to me though I know he might have been feeling guilty over all that happened. Then we have scene HS and BA sitting as drinking buddies. what makes BA become closer to HS when he was the one was so furious over letter given by WW? We will also have scene where HS and WW holding each other's hands while smiling. Does that mean they somehow will confess each other feelings and try to start a new relationship? And I wasn't happy with HS's words saying that I didnt think I'd see you again. Does that mean she loves him now?
I would be very happy if HS and BA become drinking buddies. At least they stick to the original on this part. They are originally drinking buddies and she is closest to him among all other princes.
@MadraRua In the C-version, I loved the 4th prince but I was swayed towards the end. When he became the emperor, I started to like the 14th prince and ended up shipping him with Rouxi towards the end.
@enigmatic_zephy her stage name is IU. There's an interview where she said the the PD told her to use her real name Lee Ji Eun for this drama because it is sageuk. I don't know much about the reason behind it because of my limited knowledge of Korean language. By the way, she was first an idol before an actress. But I think what catapulted her to fame is her drama Dream High with Suzy and Kim Soohyun. They became more famous because of that drama. I might be wrong though.
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12 minutes ago, uuugogirl said:
Here is her character description. This lady has a tragic fate, she is Mr Old King's former lover but now becomes his servant to watch him from afar.
I was surprised and scared when I saw Haesoo wore the same dress like Lady Oh and Wang So was standing next to her in some bts photos
So, Hae Soo will become a palace maid assigned to wash the clothes? I prefer her serving directly to the King like the C-version. There, she was treated by the King like his very own daughter.
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@Asgarla I hope they won't focus too much on her and the evil queen. They should focus on Hae Soo, her relationship to each princes and the fight for the throne between the 4th and 8th. There's more to Hae Soo's (friendly) relationship to other princes. And that's what I really like about the c-version. I hope the writer focused on that more than the evil queen and YH.
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11 minutes ago, Maria Brimstone said:
Was there a Wizard in the C-version? I don't remember such a character? Is this the novel?
Who is the wizard? Did i missed something? Do you mean the astronomer? He doesn't exist in the c-version.
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1 hour ago, Yippeuni said:
Soo is more intelligent too....remember how he is the only one that understand Hae Soo drawing??? LOL....even Wook failed to recognize it at first.
He really is. Even in the original version, the 4th is more intelligent compared to his brothers. He knows how politics works and outsmarts his brothers.
1 hour ago, aprilslily said:So of the stories we have the novel, the c-drama, and the K-drama...I have a couple of questions...that are all really just the same question.
did the author write the novel with just Chinese history in mind, and fudged facts as needed, and then it was completely adapted for Korean history...or are there just a lot of of dynastic families that fit this pattern that it could be applied to more than one culture and time frame? Or is it really China and Korean history that is the same family....just claimed as their own? (Sorry if anyone thought that that was either a really ignorant or silly question)
I guess I with no knowledge of any of the source materials Chinese actual history, Korean history, or the novel...I am a bit confused as to what is real (historical) and what is part of the book...and how much is really really made up (other than the time travel)
i read almost all of the pages in this forum, and I am still a bit confused.
The c-version is based on the Chinese history. The story of an emperor and his sons in Qing dynasty. When they adopted it to k-version, they searched for a King whose sons and their history can somehow fit the story of Bu Bu Xing Jin. But, of course, they need to change some facts.
47 minutes ago, itzibitzispider said:The original was based on facts of the Chinese court at that time ... there were charaters added and twists involved, but wikipedia agreed to most of the princes and what happend to them
The wife of the 8th prince was in the beginning of the original pregnant, that's why her sister (not cousin) was asked to live with her, the girl fell of stairs, not like in the K-version drowned (and if I am correct it was her own sister that pushed her, but I might remember wrong)
So there are differences and I guess they adapted it to Korean history, thought there are characters, added too, as much as I know that timeline had not so many princes
The one who pushed Rouxi is the sister of the 8th's first wife, not her own sister. She later became the 10th prince's wife. Also, I don't think they added princes. If you will check wiki, it is listed in the reference what they changed in the relationships of characters because they need to get a creative license for that. But, it might be missing some changes. Since Wiki is not always accurate.
@Asgarla in the list of characters of Scarlet HEart Ryeo, YH is listed as Wang So's wife. Even in the history, she is really his wife and queen. She is Queen Daemok.
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7 hours ago, miles99 said:
Okay so there's something I don't get wang so is the fourth prince and wang wook is the 8th prince but they were born in the same year so how does the order of each prince work out ?
I tried to search for Wang Wook but according to wiki, WW's birth date is not revealed. Even in the family tree of King Taejo, only his death was recorded. According to wiki, it is uncertain if WW is the fifth, sixth or seventh son of King Taejo. I think the reason why Wook became the 8th prince in Scarlet Heart Ryeo is because in the original version (novel and c-version), Kang Haneul's character is the 8th prince. I'm not sure with this though. I'm not an expert in Korean history.
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@bebebisous33 i think that symbolization is not only used in Europe. It is usually used in Kdramas. Remember "The Moon Embracing the Sun"? The moon is Han Ga In while the sun is Kim Soohyun. It was even mentioned in one of the scenes.
@meahri_1 yeah..i think the very first poem 8th gave Rouxi was when Roulan was still alive.
Regarding YH, i think she has no other options. WY is married. WW is her brother. I bet the crown prince is married, too. WS is still a prince despite being an outcast. He is feared by many and I believe he is a capable and intelligent man, fit to be a King. (In the c-version, he is good in politics and scheming people. He knows how politics works. He is very patient and only strikes when he has a good chance.)
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By the way, according to history (i read it on Wiki), the Crown Prince succeeded the throne after the King died. Then, he was replaced by Wang Yo (3rd) before Wang So (4th) succeeded the throne. I wonder if they will follow the history. I've seen in the teaser that it seems after the King died, Wang So took over the throne because it seems he's the one doing the ritual/ceremony in the funeral of his father. I'm guessing it was when he was wearing a white robe and everyone is also wearing white.
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14 minutes ago, IAmSoulReader said:
As for Wang So, he did cause Hae Soo to feel all sorts of negative feelings at the start. But we gotta admit, he pretty much does save her in every crucial moment she encounters. He is different with her than he is with everyone else. When they are together we see two outcasts who can drop theirs masks as long as they are only in the presence of each other. Wang So might be rough and cruel on the outside, but he is also not as calculating as Wook's character was planned to be. He even said it himself. He wants a wife who loves him for who he is. He needs an emotional ally more than someone with power and money. This is way closer to Hae Soo's modern mindset and therefore I guess she'll be able to relate to So even more in future.
Sorry to cut your post. What I like about Scarlet Heart Ryeo is that Wang So's character and his connection to Hae Soo has more depth compared to the c-version. I just don't understand why the queen hated him that much that she even threatened the King to kill So when he was just a little kid.
SpoilerIn the C-version, before the queen died, she told the 4th that he is not her real son. But at least, she didn't hate him as much as the queen in k-version did.
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12 minutes ago, ofeliaslie. said:
It seems like that in the beginning but if its holding any similarity to the c-version, its not all about fighting over Hae Soo. You do have 2 brothers that love her deeply but towards the end it's really all about fighting for the throne and the bloodshed that comes with it. Hae Soo or Ruo Xi (chinese version) is caught in the middle of this maelstrom because she knows history but she has to tread carefully. She knows that everything she says and does will alter history. Thats why when she saw the astronomer Choi Ji Mong, he advised her to watch what she says. Thats why the name of the series is means to tread carefully step by step.
Major spoiler here for ppl who haven't read or watched the original novel source:
SpoilerNothing was changed in the history. So, I guess, the real Rouxi is also the reason why everything happened in the past.
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22 minutes ago, MadraRua said:
I'm putting him behind a glass case just in case...
Have yet to watch the raw, going to toddle off now and do so. I can't believe Lady Hae is gone already.
That's going to be a tearjerker especially the way you all described it going down. As has been said I think Wook loves her just that he's not in love with her. This guilt will eat him alive and paralyze him so he doesn't act quicker to secure Hae Soo before the Evil Queen starts her plotting. Maybe also Yeon Hwa had a hand in arranging the marriage... and picked the ugliest bloke.... to get Hae Soo out of the way of her scheming for Wang So. She's a toerag - I really don't like her character at all. She's like a mini me Evil Queen in the making. Can you imagine how she would be to Hae Soo if both were married to Wang So at the same time?.... shudder to think...
I hope the writer won't do that. Scarlet Heart is all about how the princes fought for the throne. It's never been about the queen scheming to get Hae Soo out of the way. It's always been about who will be the next King.
SpoilerHonestly, what I don't like about the Korean version is they made the queen so involved with the fight for the throne. In the C-version, only the princes did all the scheming and killing. Though the queen has always favored his other son than the 4th (Wang So).
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10 minutes ago, qwenli said:
Sorry, I want to ask those who watched the c version, was the poem thing from there? If it isn't then the Koreans have spent quite some effort to dig out this lovely poem for the story.
@bebebisous33 totally agree with you that Haesoo is just enamoured by the current "white knight" Wook, later she will fall deeply with the "dark knight" So, who is her true soulmate because he was the only one who understood her emoticon
The 8th prince loves to write letters in a form of a poem for Rouxi (HaeSoo) because they have this "secret" relationship. His loveletters are disguised as poems. I just forgot the content of the poems if it's the same in the Korean version. Also, in the latter episodes, the 4th also did the same to Rouxi. They really love to make poems for the woman they love.
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It would have been better if they followed the C-version wherein the 8th wife was just forced to marry the 8th. The 8th prince loved his wife so much but she remained cold and distant to him. She didn't showed affection and hasn't loved him in return. I think that was also the reason why the 8th ended up falling in love with Rouxi (HaeSoo).
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1 hour ago, ruzikie said:
but he will not end up with hae soo right ? i guess i have to blame Baekhyun's OST because i was too much listening of the OST that baekhyun, chen and xiumin sang, i end up rooting Hae Soo with Wang So hahahaha. I am the minority of Wang Soo and Hae Soo shipper here guys.
In the Chinese version, the main lead loved the 8th prince, but
Spoilerthe 8th prince chose to pursue for the throne..she will later fall in love with the 4th prince but she ended up marrying the 14th...such a complicated loveline..but there are a lot of changes in the Korean version so i think in this version, she will not marry the 14th...but in the Chinese version, she's loyal to the 4th till the very end...even if she ended up marrying the other prince...I hope they did not followed the C-version because it is too complicated.
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Was it explained how TK knew about DS sending the letter to the radio station?
I haven't watched 1994 but it seems in this installment, before TK comes into picture, all the clues points to JH, then when it was revealed that TK might be the husband, all clues suddenly points to TK. It was not this obvious in 1997.
I've read some of the recaps and it seems the spoiler about RJY's wedding, DS's wedding and the airport scene are not true?
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This will be the last Reply installment I will watch. Sorry, Writer-nim, PD-nim. I want to save my heart from the pain in the future..
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6 minutes ago, carolinedl said:
I don't think this is bad writing at all. I think the writer wanted to portray sthg different. I am just a bit sad at the lack of JH scenes at the end and also the rushed depiction of DS and TK. I wish I had more scenes to see their love and be convinced by it. Is tomorrow's episode going to be about that?
The family story is great. But the love story is underdeveloped. They wasted years (episodes/weeks for us) with no development in both DS-JH and DS-TK lovelines.
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EVerything doesn't feel right!
If ONLY they didn't care about the ratings, they could have developed the story for the couple (whoever it is) properly. There are still a lot of unanswered questions and we only have 1 episode left. We didn't get to see DS's gift to JH in their manito game. DS didn't know the real story behind the pink shirt. We didn't get to see DS's reply to JH's confession. What happened to the ring? How and when did TK started to like DS?
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I don't know but honestly, I don't feel disappointed right now. Because there are still unanswered questions, so I feel TK is not the endgame yet. The postcards, the pictures..DID THE REAL HUSBAND SAID HE DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL? Or is there any other translation of what he said?
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That's going to be a tearjerker especially the way you all described it going down. As has been said I think Wook loves her just that he's not in love with her. This guilt will eat him alive and paralyze him so he doesn't act quicker to secure Hae Soo before the Evil Queen starts her plotting. Maybe also Yeon Hwa had a hand in arranging the marriage... and picked the ugliest bloke.... to get Hae Soo out of the way of her scheming for Wang So. She's a toerag - I really don't like her character at all. She's like a mini me Evil Queen in the making. Can you imagine how she would be to Hae Soo if both were married to Wang So at the same time?.... shudder to think...
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I agree with you. If you are close with someone for a long time, you will never suspect them to betray you. If there will be a little doubt, the friendship you have with that person will prevail and you will choose to trust him/her.