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  1. 20 hours ago, aria26 said:

    So maybe, in the end, CS' love could bring MW back?

     

    **since this drama was supposedly being hatched alongside my girlfriend is a gumiho (there really does appear to be connections, with the Full Moon character and the fairy tale theme), it reminded me of that drama's ending, where Mi Ho appears back by the grace of the goddess. HDL could go the same way, but I hope they fleshed it out better

     

    Yes, LOVE. I would definitely want to see that. I mean, what does love can't do, right? Time and time again that we are shown what love can do to us. We may get our hearts broken along the way, but if they let CS's love bring MW back, there's nothing more that we can wish for. 

     

    And since they are now linking it to Gumiho's, then that kind of ending isn't near to impossible. I also watched that and I think I was satisfied with the ending.

    Okay, let MW probably disappear. And then we may see CS's lonely life after she's gone. Then throw in that overly used phrase "2 years later"...or maybe 3, 4, whatever they like. And then we see MW back alive. I want them to still be together in the present day/timeline. We have 4 Ma Gos...4 gods, and there are probably more out there...pretty sure one of them can work their miracles on her. I mean, they need to be useful also at some point, right? Instead of just playing around with my ManChan and slowly breaking our pure pure and delicate hearts ! ^_^

     

    16 hours ago, wenlhy said:

    Can someone explain why 4th MG said MW is wicked?

     

    Wicked...because I think even if MW knows what the consequences are for CS or that the price, whatever that is, that he has to pay is unfair, she is still holding onto him. It's when she said, "I tried to stop him. He chose to be by my side". Perhaps for MG4, if MW really don't want CS to be hurt, she should do every means to do so and just stay away from him.

     

    15 hours ago, zhangrain said:

    Hi can someone enlighten me why the princess let MW live? I mean princess said that because of MW, she can catch the whole thieves. But isn't MW the most dangerous one? Which is why princess tricked MW at the lake, while knock down the rest of MW gang easily in the woods. Supposed that she did not know about CM MW love story

     

    Like someone mentioned here, also I'm a bit confused about CM YW deal. They decide on what is good for MW ..... Keep her alive but she won't live a happy life. 

     

    As for the very exact reason why the princess let MW live, everything as of now are all assumptions. I think it lies within the deal that was made between YW and CM and CM and the princess. We all know it has to do with MW's safety. We may have to wait for the remaining episodes to get them all answered at once.

     

    9 hours ago, Lily92 said:

    I also scared of how CS keep remembering the doctor that willing to buy others life line to safe his kid.. I mean he remember the line that he willing to do anything to not let go his kids.. I afraid that CS will do something stupid to prevent MW from going... Please a big NO to noble idiot sacrifice.... 

     

     

    This is Chan Sung...am pretty sure he won't do any noble idiocy sacrifices. He's very smart and very understanding. He may have expressed his frustrations to MW about not letting her go that easily but, of course, he has the right to feel so.  That's understandable. He loves her. But at the end of episode 12, he told MW not to be afraid when she leaves him behind despite knowing how hurt he would be. He already accepted it. Thus far, CS has never made any bad decisions. That is why I really like him as an ML. He may look like the perfect guy but what makes him perfect is his flaws that makes him real. He's just like any of us. He FEELS.

     

    7 hours ago, berny2 said:

    Hints of a sad ending from the writers....

     

    NEWsFlash :  The MaGo sisters are ACTUALLY the Hong sisters.

     

    HAHAHA...literally, they are...since they're the writers...they're the gods of this drama ^^...they can do whatever they want with just a stroke of ink.

     

    4 hours ago, vangsweetie637 said:

    I got my defense ready if this does end tragically:

     

    And with THESE ^^...

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    Even with bare hands ^-^...while chanting my curse...MWAHAHAHAHA....

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  2. 15 hours ago, Ondine said:

    And I agree that he really shines in intense scenes. When they were fighting and he was telling her how he was so afraid to lose her...take all my feels! I think Episode 12 was his best work in the show so far.

     

    Oops..I forgot to actually comment in this one from my above comment. And omg, you and I are the same because that's actually the scene for me too..when they were fighting and he was crying and upset and the all emotions. And yeah, he really shined in ep 12...hope to see more of that side of him.

     

    10 hours ago, lollyminx said:

    By the way, why do I have a feeling CS will be wearing the tiger print suit when it's time for MW to leave, which is sweet but also sad at the same time.

     

    ..oh, you might be right...gah, I really don't wanna see him send her off but that would be so sweet of him if he does wear it and am pretty sure he will...just so long as to make MW happy :tears:...

     

    10 hours ago, nikki7 said:

    Doesn’t it feel like MW is the one leaving in the preview? I have a feeling that’ll happen in episode 14 as a cliffhanger. But it could be a good thing as we got another 2 episodes a week after. That means there are possibilities they will meet again...

     

    Maybe. This previews are usually misleading. And like someone said, if you noticed, the previews they normally show right after Sunday covers both the episodes of the upcoming two eps (in this case 13&14). So it could be right, if it turns out MW is the one leaving, then it might be the end of ep 14.

     

    10 hours ago, sadthe1st said:

    to-date we have only seen souls leaving on foot and bus to afterlife, those in limo goes to heaven.. i highly doubt MW will get to leave in a limo.. oops! :tounge_xd:

    then if she did leave in a limo to heaven.. she will probably come back down from heaven to find CS and continue their love! let’s see.. leopard prints skydiving suit down from heaven suits her style isn’t it?? LOL :joy: that will be a cool ending!! (but kind of cliche like KO..)

     

    Oh come on..limo?..bus??..nah ah...this is Man Wol we're talking about..it's gonna be..

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    NYAHAHA...she'll probably insist to at least own an airline before she goes since she didn't get her hands on the yacht....

     

    9 hours ago, Anh Nguyen Roff said:

    I also watched Arthdal Chronicle. When season 2 finished and I knew I had to wait nearly 2 months for season 3, I was like “Wth? It is complicated and confusing enough even watching it continuously”. Then I thought 2 months would be as long as 2 years. Now I really don’t want to say goodbye to HDL, post drama fever is coming... :tears:

     

    Me too!~...I just decided to watch HDL at first since it replaced Arthdal Chronicles' spot and I was like, "why not watch it while waiting" but I didn't expect I'll actually be instantly hooked ^-^...

     

    @annamchoi Totally agree. She may have existed for a thousand years but only after CS came did she learn to love again. We all know she harbored feelings towards CM but we don't know the extent or depth of that love, was it as simple as a crush?...or is it deeper than that? Whereas in the case of CS, we all witnessed how she warmed up to him and slowly opening her heart whether she wanted it or not. I can say when she loves someone, she loves unconditionally, albeit she can prolly use whatever means she can to protect that love. Remember that scene where they all thought that the water spirit (Nam Da Reum) was asking for CS as a human sacrifice and how MW was so furious and was about to go catch a human in replacement of him. That's how far she can go. I won't have any problem with CS sending MW off as long as it would be when they're old enough together. Even couples don't go to the afterlife together since one of them will certainly be going first. And I wish to see them have a normal life too. 

     

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    I believe the preview of CS sending someone off could probably go these ways...

    = it might be a dream of CS of when he sees MW off

    = or it really is MW

    = probably one of the three hotel employees (but I still doubt he would go as far as run after it)

    = Sanchez... (and if....IF this really is the case, I'm gonna...tenor-5.gif 

     

    ..I mean, how could they possibly do this to CS, gods or not, fate or not...it's just utterly unfair. He's like the only family he has.

     

    Speaking of fireflies, we had this superstitious belief growing up that if there's a firefly/fireflies, there's a ghost in that certain area where they are..ha ha..I always admire the beauty of the lights they emit but when I think of that, I can't help but think that there might be a ghost ..kekeke...and so I flee...:lol:

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  3. 6 hours ago, Ondine said:

    Yeah, he really looked like he was going to kiss her. :wub:  Man Wol's all cocky when she's teasing him, but when he called her bluff she got all flustered. Girl, you should have taken him up on his offer! Get him in your bed! :lol:

     

    And I agree that he really shines in intense scenes. When they were fighting and he was telling her how he was so afraid to lose her...take all my feels! I think Episode 12 was his best work in the show so far.

     

    HAHAHA....I'm still waiting for that sleeping scene of them. MW has invited CS so openly now, twice...boy, you shouldn't say no to that :P. Jump right in and get it over with :D,

     

    13 hours ago, vangsweetie637 said:

    After 1000 years, MW finally feels what it is to feel loved again. Her past with CM even though they liked each other, just ended tragically. This time, MW has to go through another tragedy and it’s so painful to watch:bawling:

     

    the thing about this drama is that we are not given directly the reasons why scenes are occurring as they do. We as the audience have to connect to it and make sense of it. I don’t mind the fact that we got a short scene of CS mom or Sanchez’s girlfriend. In real life, if we were faced with such situations, we may even react the same way.

     

    CM is the first love. CS is the true love. Why not end it with the true love?

     

    I think that could be one thing, perhaps some people find the ghost side stories unnecessary or just out of the blue because they don't know that these little stories usually reflect to the MLs current situation or dilemma per episode. I actually think it's brilliant how they come up with it. Because if you can't follow, oh well, you are definitely gonna be lost :D.

     

    Maybe it's about time CS use his Harvard scamming and talent to scam the Ma Gos...hehe...who told them to mess with their life? If they can mess with them, they should too :D.

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  4.               Your flowers will begin to wilt when you become afraid.

     

       I'll consider shouldering the pile as solely my responsibility. So....don't be afraid when you leave me behind. 

     

     

    I didn't know I would be in for such emotions when I started watching the 2 eps. This totally summarizes my feelings ...tenor-4.gif .. hate these ninjas always lurking around :sweatingbullets:...It all started from that father and son. I feel like someone's actually hammering my heart during that scene..aigoo, how pure and beautiful can that be, when you wanted to apologize to the very person who caused you to die....because you know that person may be suffering due to itAnd then my poor Sanchez, it's just never the same seeing him all so sad and crying from that confident, quirky, happy-go-lucky that he is. Hope he gets his happy ending. And to top it all, the upcoming heartache that our ManChan is trying to let us all feel. It's like we're going down with them, if they don't get their happy ending, so are we. 

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    I actually didn't like the idea that Seol Ji Won gets to have an armor protecting him from turning to ash. I just wish MW had just ended him right there and then. Will he play a bigger role in terms of CS, is that it? Since we're all talking about this ill-fated relationship CS has and all the possible heartaches he might encounter as a burden he must bear. Hope Grim Reaper-ssi will take care of it.

     

    What I love about HDL is the fact that it deviates from all the usual typical Kdramas I've watched so far...no unnecessary drama/ separation/misunderstandings between the MLs. No one antagonist or annoying second lead ruining the relationship. No overused cliche plots. The most that standout to me is the characters, most notably uri ManChan couple. They aren't just the best individual character themselves but they're also couple goals. We may have seen a little argument there in ep 12 but that's because they're both emotionally scared...and how they patched things up by reassuring each other that no matter what happens, they shouldn't feel that way.

     

    This is it. This isn't just a drama to me anymore. This is about life and what comes after it...DEATH. However, death doesn't just end when you die and it ain't just about you dying. It's between you, the one leaving (Man Weol) and has to let go, and the ones left behind who has to accept it (Chan Sung). Yes, it's not that easy, but it's something we all have to go through at some point. Omg, idk, but while I'm writing this, can't help but get emotional.. giphy-1.gif

     

     

     

    Also, I think someone mentioned here how extra hot YJG is looking in ep 12 :D..and I may have to agree...ha ha..

    Now, I understand why but it's dangerous if they made CS to be so bold and aggressive...just look at this :P

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    ...it would have been dangerous for my hearteu...HAHAHA..I thought he would actually kiss her there...look at those eyes...kyaaaaaa~

     

    Another, I really think strong emotions bring the best out of YJG's acting..anger, frustration, sadness, even craziness (maybe)...he really shines in these types of emotions, in my opinion.

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    CS and SJW's confrontation is really intense. Never thought CS would be that brave...but yokshi, he's really a MBA Harvard grad, because he's one step ahead. He may be a coward in terms of ghost but he isn't afraid of any humans ^_^...

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    P.S. Grim Reaper ahjussi being extra cute...kekeke...

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  5. 1 hour ago, realistic2280a said:

    Before i go to sleep... just wanna say, great that GCS's IG is gaining traction and have over 1500 followers now... it maybe difficult to catch up with full moon's but at least its gaining popularity. 

     

    Cant wait to see the sub episode tmr.

     

    Good night everyone! Sweet dreams! :)

     

    Even their personal IGs gained some new followers as well. I believe IU has like 8m plus followers before and then it is now at 9.1m. YJG too, I think it was 1.8m or prolly much lower?..not sure..now it's at 1.9m.

     

    Also uri YW, Lee Tae Seon..he only had like 6k when I saw his first and 2nd posts and now it's 31.8k and still growing. One thing I also like about HDL is how it helped these supporting characters like YW and CM to be more known as actors thru this drama. I only saw CM actor in Clean Passion for Now as Kim Yoo Jung's lil bro. And YW actor in My ID is a Gangnam Beauty as the ML's bartender friend. And btw, this is a reunion drama for both YW and Mi Ra since MIIAGB coz they were both there. (Apologies for mentioning these two dramas, hope it's okay to mention just for reference :D).

     

    1 hour ago, macaronsandsakuratea said:

    This day has been quite awful for me due to various reasons. But as night went in and this beautiful episode of HDL I've just seen, I feel assuaged. 

     

    Aw, I hope you're feeling better now~! Hope the ep tonight made it even better :kiss_wink:...FIGHTING !!! Ryan-cheering-gif.gif 

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  6. 27 minutes ago, lollyminx said:

    Yes a double kiss, and it's not enough in my opinion. :wub::lol:

     

    Maybe we'll get more in the next...ha ha ha...

    ...looks like some are not satisfied with how they kissed...hihi...but considering MW and CS characters, a kiss with all the mouth movement wouldn't fit really well so a simple kiss would suffice...but....BUT of course, I know we all want more than just like that...me included *wink wink*...LOL :P

     

    EDIT:...and oh, since it's an emotional scene as well, I think the kiss is just fine as it is..

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  7. 26 minutes ago, vangsweetie637 said:

     

    I love how he pulls her back for another kiss! :wub: 

     

    AHA!...so it was a double kiss???...ha ha..I thought I saw the photos for today's episode and I did saw the one CS touching MW's face and I was thinking, "hmm..what if we get a double kiss?"...and I WAS RIGHT!!!...finally, uri Chan Sung made a move too :rolleyes: :kiss_wink:

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  8. 13 hours ago, dj.soul said:

     

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    6. Additionally, I know I definitely missed something here, but when did YW and the princess become briefly involved?  I can't remember the exact details of that encounter. 

     

    7. Lastly, what's up with the serial killer?  Is he another reincarnated character?  I know I've probably missed that detail somewhere too. 

     

     

    Question 6...do you mean an encounter in their past? Here it is...and it literally is a very brief encounter :D

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    I actually think their encounter in the modern day is just like a mirror of the past..only difference is YW isn't taking anything from Mi Ra forcefully..ha ha..

     HDL-10-6.gif  Am not sure about no. 7..but looks like he is not?...since I haven't watched ep 11 yet. However, been reading all the posts here and there's not a mention of any reincarnation.

    13 hours ago, Yana Mujay said:

    Omoo..Jun...jung..koook??:joy:

    Oppa deul...:sweat_smile:

     

    He's an oppa to you?..HAHA...you're that young?^^...

     

    12 hours ago, uglypearl said:

    Speaking about the fan:

    Actually,  there was 15-year-old BTS fan who passed away learly this year due to bone cancer before she could attend to BTS concert,

    She's Bui Deiu KL,  from  Hanoi, Vietnam. She's JungKook's fan.

     

    Hmmmm...so could there be a possibility they're referring to that certain fan?

     

    11 hours ago, vangsweetie637 said:

    Guys, brace ourselves. Not only will we have to anticipate what it is to come but soon, we will also have no more previews! From all my drama experiences, as it near the ends, we are left to anticipate even more when previews are shown much later than at the end of episodes.

     

    Ugh..you just reminded me..ha ha...I imagine it would be eps 15&16. I really hate that when it happens...when you have nothing to hope for before the next episode airs...LOL..

    10 hours ago, dramaninja said:

    Whenever a kiss appears  I will show no fear  an make my presence known so ....

     

    YUP! And I'll just be right behind you...cheering you on..:D

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  9. 2 hours ago, turtle0217 said:

     

    Excited for the new OST.

    I know, these titles are like giving us a bunch of "goodbyes" :tears: We know they are going to say goodbye, but please it's hard enough knowing that, why does these OST has to add on more sadness melody in the background.

     

    I've been humming Punch's OST, too. Lol. :lol: 

     

    I'm getting frustrated right now...why no release yet of Punch's song...aigoo...lots of new OSTs have already been released except for this one. I feel like they're saving it for last. I'm so Done for Me :joy:...

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    And the ROMANCE begins~!!! :wub:

     

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  10. 5 hours ago, lollyminx said:

    She said she didn't water the tree but CS made the flowers bloom. OMG did CS did something to her for the flowers to blossom more? :w00t::w00t::w00t: AND WHAT EPISODE DID THEY SHOOT TODAY? :naughty:

     

    HAHAHA...wasn't the flowers from ep 10? Since they bloomed. And from the looks in the preview for ep 11-12, looks like it's possibly about the flower wilting :D...

     

    6 hours ago, angelbeast90 said:

    All I heard was Koo Chanseong this, Koo Chanseong that!!!:lol:

     

    Even her IG posts are about Chan Sung this and Chan Sung that...HAHAHA..

     

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    When I read Park Young Soo at first, I was like, huh...Park Young Soo who???..and then I realized it was YW's modern name...ha ha ha...

     

    Speaking of shooting, it's obvious that they are still currently shooting right now. I'm amazed how these Korean actors even shoot in the middle of the night. I hope they take care of themselves. Do they even sleep?...lol..

     

    Fighting for HDL team~~!!!

     

    Blessed SATURDAY to everyone!!!..and HAPPY HDL DAY!!!

     

    More, guys, and we'll get to 100 pages!...and MAYBE JUST MAYBE, we'll get a KISS tonight :wub:...tsup tsup~!!

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    18 hours ago, Ondine said:

    Team Chansung all the way! I never really found Smirkalot attractive; to me he looked like a run-of-the-mill flower boy. And he was way too slick from the start; that's the kind of guy that you think is so cool when you're young and naive, but in the end he's just going to give you grief. (And boy did he ever give her grief.) As for Chansung...get you a man who's seen the very worst part of you and still decides he wants to stay with you and support you. :)

     

    You and me both! :D Idk but right from the start, I have and is and will lean to CS...even when some people are doubting IU and YJG's chemistry. Like I said before, I think for now CS is the best ML out there, at least for me. I'm totally in love with his personality.

     

    5 hours ago, lollyminx said:
    Here's CS. I kinda want him to post photos with MW. I have been waiting for that but there's still none. :tears:

     

    Hot YJG in wet hair ~ :rolleyes:...that's my concern as well, looks like he's too careful because he usually doesn't post photos with his female costars, unless it's a drama poster or anything related to his drama. He even posted a pic of him and Sanchez. Wish we could see him post a pic of him and IU behind the camera.

     

    And congratulations for learning how to paste IG links :kiss_wink:...

     

    2 hours ago, Ondine said:

    The episode hasn't even aired but I think it's safe to say these two are total fails at the "secret" part of ~secret romance~. I mean...

     

    Awww...YJG's reply ^~^...totally loving all these convos between them. Creating a MW IG is the best idea they ever came up with.

     

     

    I feel like MW and CS romance is no different from IU and YJG's relationship. It's slow burn. Watching all those BTS vids, you can certainly see how they slowly warm up to each other. So I guess that also transpires on cam.

     

    Let's go, chingu-deuls~!!!...let's make it to 100 pages before ep 11 :glasses:...

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  12. 8 hours ago, gilaswan said:

    So in effect, she’s still human albeit with special powers (that comes with the curse of running Del Luna), not dissimilar from CS who can see beings from the spirit world. Yes? No? 

     

    Overall, she is still a human. But I get where the confusion is from since Chan Sung referred to her from earlier episodes as a ghost, how he finds it funny to see a ghost putting a seat belt on :D..and the 4th Ma Go is like waiting for her to become a vengeful spirit (which I assume you become only if you're a spirit or a ghost?). So yeah, maybe she's in between a ghost and a spirit as she's too powerful for a human.

     

    9 hours ago, Ondine said:

    What is YJG doing hanging around on set in his Harry Potter glasses on his off time? :lol:  And I guess catching car keys is something they don't teach you in Harvard. Aww, Madame Choi is as caring off-cam as she his on-cam. Poor Yeon Woo,  he gets no respect in the old times. :lol:

     

    Awww...I find that sweet how he finds time to visit even if it's his day off. Some actors do that too, mostly to show their moral support to their co-stars. And I love that YJG is keeping up! :D

     

    7 hours ago, berny2 said:

    Team Chan Seung  OR  Team Chung Myung

     

     

     

    I think if CM character did not turn out that way, for me personally he' could have been a  very strong contender..hahhhha... he first got me in that scene when they fell off the horse and he uncovered MW 's face, and like how he was so mesmerized and stunned by her beauty

     

    If his character was not depicted as shady in the latter part, I would have been wavering from him to CS, and back again..... but that tragic episode of Yeon Woo kinda put CM character off for me. :mellow:

     

    I would still be Team Chan Seung all the way even if CM didn't do what he did...he he...but yes, the chemistry between him and MW when CM first laid eyes on her is sparking. I mean, IU always has the best chemistry with whoever she pairs up with...even Yeon Woo :)...lucky girl, she's getting all the men in this drama....HAHAHA...

     

     

    4 hours ago, ynnubdraobyek said:

    Apart from the OST there's other music in the show. Couldn't find any discussion or any list on the internet. Anyone know? XD

     

    You mean like the BGMs? I don't think they usually releases it while the drama is still ongoing. Normally, you can find them after, if someone compiles all of them.

     

    2 hours ago, realistic2280a said:

     

    Hmm... it just seemed as if she didnt pull the tip of jacket forceful enough, to make it fall off... 

     

    But nvm, i will let it slide and enjoy the drama... hehe

     

    Im team ManChang! :D

     

    HAHAHA...well, she's a powerful person, so....maybe even if it doesn't seem so, it will appear as it is :P

     

    1 hour ago, berny2 said:

    Yeah I was also very impressed with the action stunts/fighting scenes she did here... her moves has gotten really amazing. 
    Immense improvement... and LDH has no double too right? it's actually him? great synchronicity these two have..some moves were kinda fast and dangerous there...and they did them smoothly. wow.

     

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    Maybe doing yoga helps her to do her stunts more gracefully too :D...

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  13. 5 hours ago, jasminssiii said:

    As they said every person has a shade of black and white and CS is not an exemption. But whatever he did that serial killer guy deserves it.

     

    PS: The plagiarism thingy is starting to blow up and I'm afraid that it will affect HDL. Arghh I'm getting somehow pissed off of these people who seems like only saw GMP and HDL in their whole lives -.-

     

    Yup, agree...but very rare do they show both sides in Kdramas...mostly in romance, esp. when it comes to male leads...because I know there are others out there who do.

     

    Okay, so this plagiarism thingy, who actually are the ones bringing it up? Is it the Chinese or K-netz?

     

    4 hours ago, Ondine said:

    Found a tweet with the picture of reincarnations. :lol:

     

    Oh, you found the pic with the comparison of Kim Joon Hyun and CM?....HAHAHA...I actually saw that in IG too and I was meaning to post it here but I can't seem to find it again when I tried to. Someone actually mentioned it was a wild imagination of Chinese fans :D.

     

    2 hours ago, aria26 said:

    I just remembered this odd scene in ep 6 where they flashback to CM and Mi RA, then Mago 1 said their connection has lasted a very long time, and that he should take care of her so that she wont get hurt again. The "her" could be MW, but the placement of that statement could mean it is Mi Ra? (but that would imply CS is CM, unless it was YW who was fighting CM in that scene, so the protector must be YW). But what if MW should be protecting Mi Ra? Mi Ra has lost her protective bracelet and is now too connected to the serial killer because she is CS' ex and detective YW's "girlfriend". I dont know. haha

     

     

    Pretty sure, it's MW :D...she was hurt the most in their past...nothing is worst than being betrayed by someone you love. And who else would CS need to take care of but MW :kiss_wink:.

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