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6 minutes ago, chi13lou said:
What if Yo intentionally slapped him hard to make sure the mask flies off to embarrass So, and lo and behold, the scar is gone (HS' doing)? When he was riding the "palaquin" he wasn't wearing a mask, right? Maybe it was the great reveal!
That could be the case too! Didn't think of that but I hope that's not the case cause I ain't gonna be very happy. Yo is just too much to handle in the evil department.
I think the main reason Yo slapped So was out of pure anger because this is the scene where So challenges him for the "seat" which is most probably referring to the throne. He's probably thinking how dare someone so lowly challenge me. Also Yo has worked with Queen Yoo for so long to get there and So's interference I don't think was ever in their calculations so with So jumping in like this it could potentially ruin their whole plan.
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When Yo slaps So so hard that his mask flies off. That slap must have come at full power. (Not sure if anyone else picked this up previously) Hope So slaps him back. He totally deserves it after that whole de-masking fiasco where he put So on full blast and shamed him to no end.
And whatever Hae Soo or whoever did to cover So's scar up is quite amazing. I think he looks really cool with and without it but I wanna know what they did to help him achieve the no scar look. Betting it's Hae Soo's amazing make up skills.
I'm so ready for Monday! Not something many people say. But us Eclipses LOVEEEE MONDAY'S! KEEN BEANS!!!
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This scene looks so intense. I can't bear to see So hurt and the sadness in Soo's eyes is unbearable. Another scene that will cause the audience to feel a turmoil of emotions. Stay strong #SCARCOUPLE!!
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All this talk about rain in the preview:
A thought that I had is the gif where we see So pulling Soo into a hug is also in the rain this could potentially mean that this scene will occur very soon. "You'll become king if it rains." I think Baek Ah says this line I'm not 100% sure. I think this might be the catalyst of So joining in on the battle for the throne and the reason why So is seen stopping Yo and saying "I came for my seat."
Maybe rain is symbolic of big changes which are about to take place. In the preview there is some ritual going on and everyone is wearing white so maybe someone died. Yo also looks awfully happy if someone did die. I really think that the battle for the throne is going to go into full swing in the next episodes and everything is going to get more intense. Just some wondering thoughts I had so wanted to share
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Annyeong Eclipses! So I decided to do a character analysis on Yeon Hwa cause I feel like not many people talk about her (I mean I really don't like her) but the depth and complexity of her character is quite amazing.
FIRST ENCOUNTER
We first meet Yeon Hwa when she catches Soo staring at Wook. She looks like a pure and kind girl but looks can really be deceiving. Right from the get go she emits a very authoritative aura. The way she spoke to Soo was basically her dissing Soo indirectly and highlights how she looks down on people.
Although she is the first daughter of King Wang Gun being a woman in an era which was male dominated was definitely not easy and she would not have been considered as equals to any of her brothers whether they be younger or older. We can see that this is a struggle she faces and in order for her to be able to gain the power she wishes she must marry someone of high status. Only then would she be able to sit at the top.
Another hindrance is that she is the child of Queen Hwangbo who is not the first Queen. This puts her further away from her goal and we can tell she hates it.
HAE SOO'S PUNISHMENT
However it is evident that nothing stops her from seeking power and status. She is often seen conversing and hanging around her brothers which holds to show that she will not back down even if women are viewed as lesser in society. This is evident in the scene where Hae Soo gets a beating. All the princes are present and no one says anything at first. Like many have mentioned even Wook wasn't able to stop her because he was hesitant due to their familial relationship. Eun and Jung didn't dare say anything to her. Yo was just enjoying it like the evil guy he is and Won well he just follows whatever Yo does (I really wanna know more about Won). It was only So who could stop her and even at that point she argued that she was in charge of running the household and this was the power she had and no one could say otherwise. She really stood her ground and that was rather impressive.
SpoilerLADY HAE
The conversation between Wook, Yeon Hwa and Queen Hwangbo regarding Lady Hae is where we first see the importance of power to Yeon Hwa. She tells Wook, "You need to consider marrying again for the sake of your future." Yes she is looking out for Wook's future but she is also trying to save her own skin.
SpoilerTHE KING
Her conversation with the King about marriage is one of the key scenes that really highlight her behaviour and character. "Does that mean you wish for me to live far away from the palace?" You can tell from her saddened expression after she asks the King that she does not like the idea and she does not want to be married off to some high status family. What she wants is to stay in the Palace and marry the next King. She doesn't like the idea of her life being dictated by someone else.
SpoilerYO AND SO
Episode 5
The interaction with Yo and So was rather interesting. She states "I am not looking for a great man. I am waiting for a man who will cherish me. Someone who will treasure me." This to me is rather ironic as she had told her brother a couple scenes back to marry someone else not for love but for the outlook for his future. She's rather selfish and manipulative.
The most interesting of that scene is when she states "How much fun it would be to turn an animal into a human." This line I think shows that she wants power. She's basically saying what if I could tame a beast and bend them at my will. She is very curious of what this would be like indicating very subtly that she has a thirst for power.
SpoilerEpisode 7
Finally when her and Yo converse about how she will not get anything she wants even if Wook was to become King. Yo is very calculative and manipulative and in this conversation that is depicted. He says that it is in her best interest to marry him as they share the same dream, that is to rule Goryeo. However she is able to quickly point out the flaws in his plan and that it would no be in her best interest as she will not be his first wife (which would put her in the same situation her mother is in). She challenges Yo and this highlights that Yeon Hwa is smart and quick on her feet.
WOOK
Early in Ep 7 she talks to Wook about finding him another match for the benefit for their family (This is not in all the versions but I think it should be cause it's rather important to her character development as well as further insight into her character). We see that she has a fear of being driven out of the palace again and wants Wook to go into another political marriage. She even says "Whether it's an arranged marriage or I'm sold off, I will not enter a marriage that does not help you." This is of course the complete opposite of what she said 2 episodes a go and shows that her desire power is becoming stronger. If it means she can be on top she will do whatever it takes. Looks like she's become both blinded and driven by power due to fear.
No love just politics.
I think she is a rather compelling character and someone I will keep my eye on in the future. Her character (like I have also mentioned before) is very much like Yo. I do not like either of them yet they intrigue me as they add another dark and mysterious layer to the story. I realised after re-watching her parts that she is looking out for Wook but ultimately it is for her benefit. Furthermore, the constant changes and events which occur cause her to be more focused on her final goal. She is fearless and headstrong and I love that there are female characters like that in the series it's just sad to see that she is doing this for all the wrong reasons. She's desperate.
Things which I look forward to seeing:
1. What relationship she will end up sharing with So. Although I hate the idea of them being together I want to know what may end up bringing them together (if it were to follow the course of history)
2. The development of her relationship with Yo. Two peas in a pod.
3. How she will fall. All villains have their downfall and I want to know how hers unfolds.
I'm sorry this wasn't a very good analysis. I feel like I'm lacking in some areas but I shall work hard and hopefully improve. I just wanted to give my thoughts on this character as I found her rather interesting. Although she is not mysterious her actions and the way she acts are very notable. Thank you to all those who made it through this long post. I think I want to do more character analysis on other supporting roles so feel free to let me know if you want me to talk about my thoughts on another character.
Thanks again for reading! Lots of love
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6 hours ago, IAmSoulReader said:
Firstly I loved your post, so sorry to cut it! Allow me to add my 2 cents on the highlighted scene above.
What really sets Hae Soo apart from all the others in the room, and I am guessing that this is what the writers perhaps wanted to tell us, is not just that she dares to look at his bare face straight on without being bothered by the scar. I think, more importantly, she can actually look directly into his eyes without even paying attention to the scar.
Hae Soo has seen his scar before. She is not shocked by it at all. The only thing bothering her is what it means to Wang So's feelings to be left without his mask.
When I watched the scene you mentioned, I didn't think she looked compassionate and upset because she saw the scar again... In fact it was Eun's mistake and the hurtful gaze in Wang So's eyes that caused her to look that way. Hence I'm pretty sure her eyes weren't stuck on his scar. Wang So's and Hae Soo's gaze met directly and that was what actually pulled all these diggers with him.
It's Hae Soo's nature to never show any common reaction which keeps on catching Wang So off guard. He does not know what to make of her. However, he realizes that she has already left a great impact on him and it must scare him to a certain extend. He has never depended on anybody. But his walls towards her are melting. He hates that she leaves him confused. He knows caring will place him in danger. Yet it seems as though he cannot stop his heart from going towards her.
I cannot wait for next weeks' episodes. I'm just waiting for a bomb to explode in this palace...THIS POST IS TRULY AMAZING! Yes I absolutely agree with you and for sure your analysis is better than mine I love it
It's so true whatever Soo does catches So off guard. And I guess in a sense he feels vulnerable and frustrated. He's just like OMG what is this girl doing to me. And like you've said being treated with kindness and affection is something he has never known and it's so foreign to him he doesn't know how to accept it.
HAHAHA your final comment just wraps it up for me. Amazing post! Thanks so much for putting in your thoughts
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The evils are at work as per usual. It looks like Soo will have a tough time as long as Yo and Queen Iaintgotnochill is around. Hoping someone will keep her out of harms way cause this son and mother duo are conniving and made up of pure evil.
This line really hit me and it is very true. The scar on So’s face is not merely a scar. It is a permanent reminder of his family disowning him, his mother permanently damaging him, the lack of love he has been treated with and the fear which everyone looks at him with. It is a wound which he has buried not only behind his mask but deep inside his heart. That is why he is so tormented and filled with fear and darkness.
ALSO WHO DARES TO THROW CRAP AT SO. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE OMG.
But it's all good cause a more confident and driven So is coming along. That's right So! You tell your no good mother and your good for nothing evil brother that no one can mess with you and you will FIGHT for what is rightfully yours!
The tension is definitely building and the battle for the throne is beginning. From here on out it's gonna get pretty full on with all the evil plotting and planning of overthrowing the King by Yo and Queen Iaintgotnochill. Plus the brothers fighting for the throne in order to gain power for various reasons and purposes.
I have also already mentioned in multiple of my previous posts that I am excited for Hae Soo to officially de-masked So. That will definitely be an exciting turning point for So and we will see further growth of his character.
5 more days and we will be blessed with another 2 episodes of this amazing drama! Keep the thoughts, theories and the opinions coming cause I love reading insight. I have about 15 pages to catch up on so I'm pretty excited. Stay psyched for the next episodes guys cause I know from here on out it's gonna get pretty full on. It will take use on a rollercoaster of emotions and probably to extreme measures our hearts cannot handle but we will love every second!!! Thank you to all those who have taken the time to read all my posts especially the long ones that I write! It gives me great motivation to write more so thank you so so so so much! Lots of love to all the Eclipses out there!
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Hey Eclipses how is everyone doing? So you all (may or may not) know that I love to give my input during and after every episode. I’m a little delayed today due to the amount of work I had to do. But I eel obliged to write about episode 7 so here it goes.
When Soo is walking with So and talking happily about how she thinks she will be fine and able to adapt to this lifestyle was definitely very Soo like. She didn’t want him to worry but man was So worried. He furiously grabbed her by the arm which she had scarred firmly stating with anger, “You could have died.” which clearly highlights that he was very worried about her. To which Soo simply replies “I didn’t die.” That matter of fact answer definitely startled So and I believe it is probably the first time he has encountered someone so blunt, straightforward and fearless especially towards him. I feel like a lot of things Hae Soo says also rings bells inside So's head and makes him realise the positive side of the situation.
Spoiler“Everyone here is alone. That is the only thing I know for certain.” This line really highlights So’s character as he has never known of companionship let alone love. He has lived alone basically his whole life with lack of respect and affection that all he has none is loneliness.
I really love how Soo countered him yet again with “I am not alone, so I’m alright. You’re here, 8th Prince. How am I alone?” She is showing him that he is not alone indirectly. I think it was a very simple statement which encompassed a very important message for So, and you can see it in his reaction.
I also want to add that Lee Hi’s OST in the background was beyond perfect I really really loved that scene.
SpoilerFAST FORWARD...
Hae Soo and Wook. I swear I literally cannot choose which ship to go on. I’m just gonna drown. Look how adorable they are. I love this playful side of Wook and I hope we get to see more of it before it all turns dark with the battle of the throne. I’ve also just never seen Wook so genuinely happy and man is he good-looking. *drops dead*
SpoilerAnd it just gets worse. He grabs her hand and teaches her calligraphy real smooth how he taught her his name. That was hella smooth. He’s so please with himself too. HAHA. Then he gives her a jade bracelet on red string to cover her scar and protect her from misfortune while also symbolising a joyful friendship my heart just melted. And if that wasn’t enough he kisses her on the forehead as a sign of protection. That scene left me breathless. It was absolutely beautiful.
Yeon Hwa and Yo. That ship is already sailing for me. It’s a relationship of let’s see who can be more evil. I feel like there is some tension in their relationship. And it is also rather intense.
Okay aside from all the lovey doveyness, what really drew me into this scene were the facts that Yo presented. That although Yeon Hwa wishes for Wook to sit on the throne that will not get her very far. She will merely be a princess under him and not the Queen like she wants. Yo believes that he is her only option but Yeon Hwa is very smart, she knows that since Yo already has a wife/wives she will not be the Queen either even if she married him and wonders if he will give them up for her to be Queen. They’re characters are both very manipulative, calculative and power focused. This heightens the intensity and tension of their relationship and I love how different it is in comparison to all the other relationships present so far in the series.
On a side note honestly if Yeon Hwa wanted to be Queen and her goal was to get Wook to the throne she might as well just marry him if he does get it. I know this is a rather sick idea but Yo is also her brother, they are blood related so honestly there isn’t much of a difference. Brother or half-brother, they’re still your brother Yeon Hwa.
SpoilerSo stepping in and stopping the kiss really pissed me off. Him getting involved with Yeon Hwa is just UGHHHHH so frustrating. I don’t want them together. I refuse that they were historically together. I just hate it with a passion and I wish he would stay as far away from her as possible. So you have Hae Soo, let’s be real that’s all you need
I feel like this is the moment when So realises his feelings for Soo. The lyrics of the song I think really speak to him. There's really nothing else much to say cause So's face says it all. Of course everyone loved it but So was just in awe.
SpoilerNow to the scene that made me feel like my heart was getting ripped out of my body… repeatedly. Thank you to whoever decided to include this scene.
Yo no words can describe how much I hate you. NO WORDS. I cannot believe you suggested that to Eun. When Eun asked I was just like OH NO YOU DIDN’T. I thought I could never really not like Eun but for the last 10 minutes of this episode I just couldn’t. I know he was manipulated but because he is childish he clearly didn’t know how to use his brain. Even after the Crown Prince said that he should feel ashamed to have asked for something like that he continued to go on like a child. (The acting of Baekhyun and HJH were really good cause it takes a lot for me to dislike a character especially if they're eye candy so you guys are jjang! The whole cast is magnificent.)
Baek Ah was the first to turn away and close his eyes even before So revealed it to everyone. He even told So to ignore them because I think he understands the amount of pain and grief So has gone through because of that scar. In a sense he couldn’t bare to see his brother’s pain. He hated the situation So was being put in and this is highlighted sad expression and clenched jaw.
SpoilerEveryone turns away because they are so scared and terrified of the way So looks and at that point I had tears streaming down my face. His family would not look at him because he was “damaged.” Yo however was watching with a smirk on his face. My blood was boiling. And then he laughed and my laptop was gonna have a hold in it’s screen. Eun I honestly hope you regret doing that for the rest of your life.
The reaction which everyone gave I think was what So expected. But what he wasn’t counting on was the fact Soo could look him in the face without wavering at all.
But the amazing thing about this whole scene is LJK’s acting. The suppression to all the fear, sadness and pain can be seen in his eye. He is able to show these expression with half his face covered and I was truly amazed. He is just so handsome as well. DEAD.
SpoilerThe final scene where he demands for Soo to look at him made me so tense. He was really testing to see if she wasn’t scared of the way he looked. The way he forcefully grabbed her by the arm which she has her scar on could symbolise his anger and frustration that she would give herself a scar and the fact that she is not terrified by his. "The look in your eyes, I hate it like crazy." He simply cannot comprehend how she can look at him with no fear. It’s a moment I will cherish forever as I think it is the turning point of So viewing his scar in a negative light both physically and mentally.
Sorry for the long post this Ep had a lot going on and a lot of key scenes which I loved so I had to go into detail with my thoughts. Yes I have also included a lot of screenshots! I apologise if it takes you forever to scroll through.
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The final scene where So grabs Soo by the arm and tells her to look at him. She stares at him unwavering and I think he is more scared of the fact that she is not afraid of his scar.
Those last scenes brought tears to my eye. The reaction from everyone when he took of his mask. No one would look at him
And then next episode people are throwing stuff at him that's just not how a prince or anyone for that matter should be treated.
Tonight has been filled with laughter and tears. I am glad we got to see LJK's full face without all that hair in the way. He is just as handsome as ever. The de-masking scene is coming and it's the scene I have been waiting for. I am looking forward to next week's episodes and I bet your guys are psyched for them too. The tension is just forever growing and things happen when you least expect them. Goodnight my fellow Eclipses!
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Eun just asked So to take his mask off OMG what did you do Eun...
My heart is pounding. OMGGGGG
No one will look at him that breaks my heart. Tears are brimming :'(
And Yo I HATE YOU!
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Eun's party hat is prettier than me. What is life
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I will forever cherish Yo and Yeon Hwa scenes they are so perfect for each other. Two peas in a pod.
NOOOOOO So why'd you stop the kiss!!!
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And the love story of Baek Ah and Woo Hee begins I legit cannot wait!
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I believe a kiss on the forehead is symbolic of protection.
Wook I am so done. THEY ARE SOOOOO CUTE. WOOK AND HAESOO ARE JUST SOOOO FREAKING ADORABLE!!!!!
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Wook grabbed her hand and is teaching her the Chinese characters. I always get swayed by Wook OMG WHYYYYYYY
And he's giving her jewellery to cover her scar. Wook STAHPPPP!!! Actually don't I need to cherish these moments while they last
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OMG Wook pulled Soo out of the line and that smile. They're so adorable and playful my heart is weak.
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I'm still curious is she watering the plants or throwing pee as fertiliser and nutrients for the plants. If it's the latter she threw pee on So HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Hehehe I'm glad you're hyped again
Yea that figure does resemble Wook more than anyone else but I'm in so much denial RN I just can't accept it. With this dramas constant twists and turns and legit throwing the unexpected at you at the most unexpected time anything could happen.
Yes that emoji scene was just so cute I can't OMG!!! It was his reply to her emoji like how people text in the modern day I just cannot deal with the adorableness of this couple ughhhhhh.
No worries 친구! Thanks for your response \^ㅁ^/
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Last nights episode was full of twists and turns. Literally NOONE was expecting it... AT ALL.
I love how everyone goes to So when there’s an issue that needs resolving. I feel like his brothers do look up to him but on the other hand are slightly scared of him because they haven’t had the chance to bond over the years (thanks to Queen Iaintgotnochill). I really did love the scene where they all (except Yo obviously) helped Soo try to run from her marriage.
When that guy was like and if Hae Soo and the King were to have a child, So's reaction is legit like WTF. But man that relationship if wrong on so many levels. That King must have been hella busy with his 27 wives(?) and like 32 children(?). Like bro calm down.
“Marrying a 60 year old with many many children.” Jung pretty sure that sounds like someone you know. And then when he realises.
Then you have So and Wook lying about how they feel towards Soo. Like guys seriously quit playing we all know.
SpoilerAnd then Baek Ah who's just straight to the point.
SpoilerSo and Baek Ah's growing relationship and alliance is what I am living for. I believe they complement each other as So embodies a lot of gloom and darkness whilst Baek Ah embodies hope and light. They are like Yin and Yang I absolutely love it. #yinyangbros
The scene that intrigued me the most was the scene of Soo's subconcious which were showing us the possible events that were to unfold. We saw the King's death 3 times. First was by suffocating while he was asleep. Second was drowning in I believe what seemed like the bath house. Third by stabbing. So are these the 3 possible scenarios which the King Taejo could meet his demise?
The image that drew me in the most was that of the blurred figure with the splash of red across it. Who could it be?
I honestly thought it was Yo cause like who is even capable of doing this besides him. But when Soo was standing there thinking to herself and the camera stopped on Wook I got chills down my spine. And now whenever I see that blood splattered image I can just imagine it being Wook but I refuse to accept that. Another thing I picked up was Soo completely disregarded Yo as a possibility. I wonder why that is.
And I love Wook's remake of the emoji. Haha. Emoji revamped in the ancient times. \^ㅁ^/
I didn't really go into detail with my thoughts on the other major scenes because some contributors have already done so and they're thoughts are very similar to mine
Everyones input is valuable and I love a lot of the discussions that go on! Keep up the amazing work fellow contributors!!
I just want to conclude by saying that this episode was amazing like all the others. It tied up loose ends and introduced even more concerning matters which I am certain that the audience is anticipating. I know some have been saying that So has not has as much screen time or interaction with Soo in the past couple of episodes. I think we should enjoy Soo and Wook while it lasts. Soo and So will have plenty of airtime as the series progresses. Keen beans for tonight! Who is excited?!?!?!?! \^ㅁ^/
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Thanks for supporting my ship name I think it's very fitting for them
Those who fight battles together stay together and their scars are symbolic of the battles they've been through and essentially won. I just love how the director incorporated that whether it be deliberate or not. Thanks for the love guys
#SCARCOUPLE Fighting!!
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"You could have died."
"Don't do this again."
"I'll never forgive you."
So keen for tomorrow. I swear this drama just gets better and better. Everything is so unexpected. Protective and obsessive So is really showing. I ain't complaining tho! OTP
#scarcouple
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Now that Hae Soo has a scar she's like So OMG the ship is actually OTP I cannot deal with the level of chemistry they share
#scarcouple
Pretty DOPE couple ain't gonna lie
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OMG NOOOO SOO DON'T HURT YOURSELF!!!!!
What's surprising is Wook and So are present OMG the heartache they must be feeling.
That catch by Wook tho. And now he's carrying her. LORD have mercy on my soul. When you ain't loyal to your ships.
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No wonder So was so aggressive towards Ji Mong (almost with a killing intent) in the trailer. It was Ji Mong who caused this to happen SMH. Poor Ji Mong though I'm sure he's just trying to do what is right.
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