☆ 2 P M ★ Official Thread ☆

[Guest ljtong]

I wanna add to the height....

Jay said in shows without shoes he is 170cm, that is the same height as my brother. My brother for sure is not 5'5 or 5'6.

There is info here: Height

I think this is right as it goes with what my doctors tell me.

Anywho, I've seen one of Jay's friends before and he was about 5'6. And Jay is taller than him. I'll leave it at that.

Ohh Taec is back in the US? So it's like a every so often thing? I wonder if anyone will spot him XD

Ah... a Taec-less inkigayo? but i'm sure if it's Junho amd Wooyoung it will still be cute. Maybe Taec can go over to Seattle and drag Jay and mangoes back haha

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Hmm... the rumors and speculations... I think we should treat it as such until we get a real statement. I admit it makes me uneasy but I always go to bed thinking and hoping that Jay will be back soon.

Let's just wait...

besides "even if it's 10 years, I'll wait", right? I think there is a reason why Tired of Waiting is being promoted now... and they left Jay's voice track in there too <3

[Guest Max23]

I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF ALL THIS INFORMATION, RUMORS, NEWS, GOSSIP AND SPECULATIONS.

Why is everything so complicated?? The news about 2PM used to be so clear and straightforward before Jay's scandal. Now everything about 2PM is just like a puzzle to me.

The only thing I want to see is Jaebeom back to 2PM and perform energetically together on stage like. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

I'm waiting patiently for that day when Jay comes back! But these days I have been feeling really uneasy with all these rumors and speculations.

And the fact that JYP is retiring as a producer soon somehow also makes me feel uneasy. It's like everything is falling apart for 2PM.

I don't know, maybe I need to lay low and just watch things unfold...

[RkoCenaHolic23]

im soooooo HAPPY that they decided to promote TIRED OF WAITING! its my fave song in the album! I really really LOVE it! Although I thought it was Wooyoung who sang the first 2 lines in the 1st verse... hehe... apparently he was the chorus... I just love their looks, choreo and ANGSTY aura during perfs! ^___^

those kpop macros were freaking funny! XD

[Guest iuwoo]

Short news

Credit: Chinup_jay, Lisa, Tik and Cassina@2pm-online.com

♥♥♥ Taecyeon went back to the states for his VISA's extension yesterday. Therefore, 2PM is not going to appear on stage this week except for SBS Inkigayo since the performance was taped in advance. Wooyoung will still work as the MC. Junho is expected to subsitute Taecyoen but this has not been confirmed.

♥♥♥ Many Korean media report that 2PM will have their farewell stage this Sunday Jan 10th on SBS Inkigayo. However some fans called and checked with JYPE and were confirmed that 2PM's last stage is set on Jan 17th.

♥♥♥ Nichkhun has begun filming his movie. He went to shoot at some far away resort late last night. The resort is popular for movie shooting. He's still learning acting along the way as well.

♥♥♥ Yesterday, fans spot Nichkhun and Junho in a restaurant together. Chansung went to see a movie while Wooyoung and 2AM JoKwon went to a cafe together and got 'green tea sherbet' and 'tiramisu'.

♥♥♥ On Anycall Corby site http://kr.samsungmobile.com/event/corby/event_main.jsp it is said that there will be a 2PM miniconcert for Corby users held on Jan 30th. However, the venue is still TBA.

♥♥♥ Newsway reports that JYPE person revealed that they don't have an exact plan for second album yet and denied the rumor about concert plan in Daegu. The news also confirmed that 2PM last stage is on January 17th.

♥♥♥ Nichkhun will have another Suzuki Jelato event in Thailand this Feb 7th. This time he will go to visit fans in Pattaya. The event will be held at Central Festival Pattaya Beach Department Store.

whoa...i'm glad that our guys finally have some time for themselves....i really love the JYP Family...i find that they have really strong attachment to each other....and im not sad about the news that 2pm'll soon have their goodbye stage on Jan...bcuz i hope they will rest and get strong,,,ready to their next album with the return of their leadja...^^

[Guest avchuck]

What's this "JYP promise" everyone's talking about?

I've just now calmed down from reading the latest BOMBS of rumors on 2oneday's website and gone over everyone's reaction to the news. What I keep reading is "JYP promised!" WHAT DID HE PROMISE IN REGARDS TO JAY?!

As far as I'm aware JYP didn't promise anything. The only thing he said coming close to a "promise" is that "IF" Jay chooses to return to Korea, he would be returning to 2PM. This is all I know. Does anyone know of this mysterious promise and would enlighten me with it's whereabouts? PLEASE!?!

[Guest sapharia]

Jay is 170 cm - 5'7

Taecyeon is 185 cm but that is actually 6'1 not 6'0

Junsu is 178 cm which is actually 5'10 not

Nichkhun is 180cm which 5'11 almost 6' not 5'9.

Wooyoung & Junho are both 177cm which is roughly 5'10 as well.

Changsung is 184cm (6' and a half) but since he is the youngest, he has been said to have grown, he's taller than Taec now probably.

I remember reading an article that all of them together their average is 178 cm and the tallest male group beating out MBLAQ while After School is 170 cm average beating out SNSD.

omo, thanks for getting back to my question about the boys heights xD They're all so talllllll! Jay in my opinion is tall, but from watching so many variety shows and performances with him in it, I always feel like he's really short and it doesnt help that the guys and everyone else emphasize it so much kekeke

[Guest lady_bug]

I was wondering if anyone was going to sub the Nodaji episode where Jay appeared...missing that dude like crazy.

Anyways, as far as I know JYP had promised to provide Jay with dance and singing lessons while he is resting in Seattle. He made no promise to Jay returning, only letting fans know that it was up to Jay...which I believe he will.

I hope whatever the rumors about Jay not returning will only be a fart. Come on, everyone had forgiven him and wish for Jay to return. Let's keep the faith going.

[Guest cheezychunnie]

stay strong hottest..that was juz a rumour..

keep believing...

let us hope that Jay will return back to us...

let's keep the happy thoughts in our mind.

[Guest Sacraca]

From now until Jay's comeback, I will not believe any rumor, I will stick on JYP's promise to bring Jay back to 2PM. I believe JYP since I still think that JYP has long term plan for 2PM to debut in US like WGs. Then how come he can waste his pearl-Jaebeom , the great dancer, singer and rapper, and above all, he can speak perfect English. so in my 2 cents, JYP is wise enough to know what he should do.

(idk but I have the feeling that J will comeback soon at the end of Jan.. *shrug*)

anyway, let's relieve with 1 pic of Tae (how cute he is ^^)

[Guest Shona-z]

A little "All Night Long" slideshow I made, not much I know but I love the song too much.

Here is something to keep this thread occupied while 2PM takes their mini-break

What much do you like about 2PM or pacifically who you like most? How honest of a HOTTEST are you about them?

What I like about 2PM is that they are all beautifully unique. They can pull a perfect performance every time they perform. They are hot and dreamy. But my ideal member would be Teac and Jay because their voices pulled me into 2PM and every time I hear them it’s like magic. To be honest I can never be a honest HOTTEST because I will end-up favoring Teac, Jay, Wooyoung and ChanSung more than Junsu and Junho, sorry guys not that there is anything wrong with you both of you are hot and dreamy too it's just that I like the other four member equally better.

[Guest pinkchocolate]

anyway, let's relieve with 1 pic of Tae (how cute he is ^^)

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo311/mrboastled/227s.png

Taec is looking good and adorable here! ^^ Nice hair!!

I like this pic very very much, even though he is not smiling. Hehe.

Thanks for sharing! (:

[Guest JAEBOO-]

What much do you like about 2PM or pacifically who you like most? How honest of a HOTTEST are you about them?

- Well, I really like about 2PM because of their sense of humors and really, their great voice and dancing skills. at first, i really like taecyeon because i got attracted to him then crushing on nickhun, when I started to get addicted to heartbeat perfs and mv, i noticed junho and he got me there xd. i was attracted by his lips *really* and his smexy voice roflmao. Lol, I guess i'm not really honest of a hottest, because sometimes i got attracted by Junsu, Wooyoung & Taecyeon hahah ! still betraying Junho,roflmao. But i loveall of them :'D

@JYP's

- Okay, jyp really made a nice choice/pick. I think wooyoung too. because wooyoung is getting hotter day by day and he improves day by day (': i love wooyoung's voice in TOW.

[Guest Labacookie]

What's this "JYP promise" everyone's talking about?

I've just now calmed down from reading the latest BOMBS of rumors on 2oneday's website and gone over everyone's reaction to the news. What I keep reading is "JYP promised!" WHAT DID HE PROMISE IN REGARDS TO JAY?!

As far as I'm aware JYP didn't promise anything. The only thing he said coming close to a "promise" is that "IF" Jay chooses to return to Korea, he would be returning to 2PM. This is all I know. Does anyone know of this mysterious promise and would enlighten me with it's whereabouts? PLEASE!?!

To my knowlege, there WAS NO such promise. I commented as much over at 2ONEDAY. I believe what happened is fans took a statement made by JYP where he said that "If Jay returns, there is a place for him in 2PM" and turned it into an assumption that JYP was definitely bringing back Jay.

I recall initially that Jay was said to have "resigned from 2PM and returned to America to study music, etc." and I've always hoped that it meant that he was taking a temporary leave of absence over the issue, however, resignations, by their very definition and nature, are almost always permanent, and if Jay really did resign, then there was never any intention of his returning to the group. But, that's just if the word "resign" was used correctly in this instance, and it wasn't a temporary leave of absence.

However, if the term was used correctly, then the situation has been clear to everyone else (except those of us in the 2PM fandom, particularly the international fandom) this whole time, and we've pretty much been deluding ourselves. The idea is painful to say the least.

But, it also means that there really was never a promise to bring Jay back, that Jay's departure has always been permanent, and that fans took a statement with a big IF in it over a departure and turned it into a guarantee that JYP himself promised to bring Jay back, when the reality is he himself said no such thing.

Now, I could be wrong, and people could be referencing some other statement. If so, I, like yourself, would like to see it. Because if JYP did, out of his own mouth or through some statement, promise fans to bring back Jay and then does a 180 and invalidates this promise, I believe an apology should be made for leading fans on.

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In regards to rumors, again, said this over at 2ONEDAY, basically I'm not going to let myself get worked up over anything less than a statement from JYP/JYPE and or Jay. I see no point in getting excited over rumors, even if the rumors are from sources that have been "right/kinda right" in the past. These are still not official sources, and only official statements and sources should be taken to heart.

This goes for both rumors of Jay's return and rumors concerning the finality of his departure. I say we just hope for the best and be on the lookout for a statement.

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My personal belief on the matter is controversial, but I'm very concerned, for reasons laid out in the first section in regard's to "JYP's promise", that Jay's leave has always been viewed as permanent and the only people who see it otherwise are 2PM fans, especially us international fans.

I think that if there is no Jay on the next album, and that album is successful without him, it's pretty much official that he's gone. Regardless of what JYPE says on the matter ("He needs more time, He's not ready, etc."), as it could simply be their way of stalling and avoiding the inevitable backlash from fans who are upset over his leaving. The fandom remains extremely volatile, and I don't think they're remotely eager to deal, or worse, they honestly don't care.

I don't see JYPE promoting a 6-person 2PM for a new album and then going through all the trouble of re-introducing Jay in for an album beyond that, especially if they are marketable and successful without him. Because no doubt his return would re-introduce the "Korea is gay" controversy and endanger the marketability of the group, and that's not something any company would be eager to do. I think that if the next album weren't successful, it could be a possibility (controversy = publicity) that an attempt would be made to bring him back for the album after that, but if he's not on the next album and it does well, I think it's safe to say that he really did resign from the group and/or JYPE let him go.

[Guest ERPJ]

Here are some Khun Focus Fancams:

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Thank you so much for Khun's fancam.oh omg.Khun can't rest coz need to shooting the movie.

[Guest Hana_]

What much do you like about 2PM or pacifically who you like most? How honest of a HOTTEST are you about them?

Hmm I think what I like the most in 2PM is that they always do their best and they never give up even if they get hurt. Of course I really don't like to see them hurt but it's a huge quality imo =)

I also like the fact that they aren't like other idol groups, there's like a special atmosphere coming from them and you can't feel it in other groups or solo artsits. Each member have an attractive side, and when they are together it's like the biggest sunshine I've ever seen :

About who I like the most... I can't choose O.O Honestly I like them all! When I first saw one of their perfs I prefered Wooyoung but now that I got to know them better I can't help but loving them all^^

& finally, I think I'm a quite honest HOTTEST, cause like I said I love all 7 equally ~

To share my thoughts about Jay's comeback, the only thing we can do is waiting for an official statement from JYP(E). Yes, we all want him to comeback asap but we are acting like selfish people. I mean who asked Jay if he wanted to return now? I don't think anyone here did. Maybe it's the right time, maybe it's not. We don't know anything. We can speculate a lot about this but don't exepct too much until an official statement :/

Like some people said, I will respect Jay's decision wether he decides to come back or not, as long as he's happy and keeps smiling ~

>> Don't take this too seriously, I just expressed my opinions =)

[Guest Soulhead]

What much do you like about 2PM or pacifically who you like most? How honest of a HOTTEST are you about them?

I like the fact that 3 of them speak english !Because I can understand what they said without subtitles and I'm everytime like ''Wooooooh <3 He speak english !!!'' when in Wild Bunny Jaebum ask Nichkhun ''Do you understand ?'' or Taec ask to Jay ''What you want ?'' . And in Swiss since i'm born I was always scolded by my mother when i said ''YES !'' and not ''Oui !'' and everybody always said ''American culture is not good ,we have to always speak in french and not in english ,their culture will invade us etc''.So I always considered all sign of american culture (language etc) like the worst thing in the world. But when I discover a english interview of 2PM i started to see english like a fabulous thing ,because a human who live at 6000 KM etc ,I can understand him . So, I really want to improve my english level now ,thanks 2PM !(that's why i'm here in fact XD)

My favorite is Nichkhun,because thanks to him ,i discover a lot of Thaï artist.He always promote his land very well hehe ~ And i've matured a lot since Jay's scandal.I mean, now I'm a bit sceptical about my dream to travel in many foreign land and I'm more bitter in a lot of thing (like we're in 2010 but our world still in progress) even if before I was always 100% positive !But It's a good thing ,i'm more ''down to earth'' and I know what I have to do for my future.. Finally, I like them all because everyday they and their musics are a great motivation for me and I'm very thankfull for that !

[Guest baosters]

awh, promotions coming to an end soon. but i guess that's okay, this means more rest for them and they'll be back with more awesome stuff! they always do anyways. ♥

How much do you like about 2PM or pacifically who you like most? How honest of a HOTTEST are you about them?

haha! i'm junsu biased and i only started listening to kpop just 3 months ago. thanks to a friend who gave me the links to Wild Bunny because i was on holidays, and right now i listen to 2PM on a daily basis. i couldn't pick who i like best in the beginning because each of them do have their charms and they were all funny individuals in their own way. perseverance and hard work, these actually kinda summarizes them. love it that they are improving from time to time

[kandybites]

lol @ the ghei porno.

poor bb using his pic as an ad.

if they do a comeback by april (true or not)

i want them to be 7 again... or else..

that would suck.

How much do you like about 2PM or pacifically who you like most? How honest of a HOTTEST are you about them?

sorry, kinda got confused w/ the question.. but i love the boys as much a i love my MAC.

i actually have a poster of them on my wall.. talk about crazy huh. but nah, i just love to look at them... i'm a huge fan of them.. let's put it this way i would fly all the way to korea (soon) just to meet them.. that's how much i like/love 2pm. When it comes down to who i like most, def. PARK JAEBEOM, right now his the reason why i keep refreshing '2pm thread' and '2OD' waiting for an article of his comeback. As a Hottest, i'm biased to them, if someones talks bad about them, like a momma tiger i get furious and attack back. i would like to keep them untouchable for as long as they are in the music ind. I'm proud to be a fan and claiming the name "HOTTEST".

Jaebeom always missing you!

5'7 is pretty tall... to me of course.

[Guest taejun4]

QUESTION!

did 2PM ever perform "Angel" live before?? if yes can someone give me the link..

MANY MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE!

[Guest happylove00]

QUESTION!

did 2PM ever perform "Angel" live before?? if yes can someone give me the link..

MANY MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE!

unfortunately, our boys have never performed "Angel" before...

glad that the boys will be in hibernation soon...

finally, they can get their rest...

i hope they will be back as our energetic 2PM again!

last but not least, 2PM is only complete when is 7!