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6 minutes ago, timidjock0819 said:

 

I'm glad you noticed. yes, he walked her home and he nervously turned around when Jian said something- again PDnim!!! pls stop sending food in the island. 

 

What do you mean? when she said fighting? Sorry I'm a bit dumb today  

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Hi.

Two awesome episodes  

 

I have a (sincere) question: in episode 7, what was the meaning of JA's reaction when she heard that DH will stay married, stay at the company and "threatened" the CEO? Was it because she was affected by his decision to stay in the marriage? Or was it because she lost her "sourse of income"? I really don't know how to interpret that.    

 

Few things that I find telling and profound.

 

1. In episode 7, during their meal, JA asked why he didn't leave the company 'cause it will be a hell to work at the same place with the CEO. His answer was (in my words) that life is hell (unhappiness) working there or leaving it won't change anything. And also that he was born to be punished (unhappy). Then JA answered that punishiment was for bad people, imo, implying that he is a good person so doesn't deserve to be punished (unhappy). 

 

In my opinion, DH's decision to stay married is built from how his view life: it is hell - at least to him, so stay in or go out marriage doens't make any difference, he won't be happy anyway, 'cause he will stay being punished. So, I think with that kind of view, DH will never get a divorce. This DH in his forties is a defeated man who doesn't believe in happiness (for him), who can't battle against his imagined fate.   

 

So JA stating that punishiments is for bad people, I think, stirred something in DH, questioning this state of things, showing that there is a contradiction between a good man (him) being punished. I think this few words of JA could push HD do see his life differently. And, once he sees that there is a paradise (happiness) outside there, maybe he will be willing to reach to it and so to make great changes in his own life.

 

2. In episode 8, when DH was making analogies between buildings and life, he started talking that a life without pilars will fall apart. I think everyone will agree that he was talking about himself. Therefore, he said that he had lost his pilars, he was "on the ground" without support and references. And then, after that, JY uttered one simple word "fighting". From this moment, I think,  DH got a conciousness that he did get a new pilar, a new reference. So, when he was at the bottom of his life in this episode, he used JA's word "fighting", and with that, he got his inner strength back. 

 

Wow, this writer is really good. I think we can say that "Fighting" is the "soulmate" of "you're a good person". Daebak show!!! 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, nearsea said:

Like @ninaanin I have also no issues with soulmates who are just friends, like I believe my girlfriends are kind of my soulmates too,  like those who understands me . It doesn't have to be someone of an opposite sex necessarily. But lovers can be soulmates as well. I would certainly not say Yoon Hee is Dong Hoon's soulmate.  But then there is this saying which goes as something like 'you marry the second most person you love'. Anyway I'm veering away from the topic but what I mean is I do feel the director is kind of publicizing the Drama as his own creation. He says his own interpretation of what the relationship between Ji an and dong Hoon is, but we don't know if that's how the writer intended it to be. I'm  kind of miffed at the director to be honest, for making it about his own Pov rather not the story itself, or else it doesn't seem like that's how it was supposed to be initially. Also  I found it kind of of unnecessary that he was trying to give justification  for what happened and why. They really ruined the whole mystery behind the story, imo by doing so. It's like publicize the propaganda so much that we are supposed to believe that the propaganda is important lol. Which shouldn't the case tbh lol. Why is he still talking about age gap and all? 

 

I can kind of predict how the drama is going to turn out at this phase, sadly. The surprise factor isn't there anymore.  I guess this is how a director can change the track of a good drama. Like how Black's director ruined the ending by changing the original ending. So I'm kind of disappointed thinking about how the story could have turned out. Since the director is a renowned one I guess even the writer doesn't have much say in this. Seeing how they are already trying to please the public.

 

Did you see the whole conference? I ask that because I only read/saw what was posted here, and I kind of think from it that he was being evasive about loveline or not. 

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1 hour ago, sadiesmith said:

The PD sure did go to extraordinary length to show that DH and JA can't help but consider each other as man and woman.  He really needs not do that if at the end of the day he just wants to tell a story about the friendship of two people.  I want to think of him as smart and meticulous and thinking through everything, so I am still hopeful for a satisfying outcome.  Besides, I think he cleverly avoided giving spoiler about the nature of the relationship.  He seemed to have a few surprises up his sleeves yet.  

 

For those who enjoy reading discussions of this drama, here's another place.  I especially like posts by "stumpy1949" where he geeks about the technical aspects of the directing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KDRAMA/comments/8ber99/my_ahjussi_episodes_7_8/

 

All the information I have about the press con I got from here. So, based on what was translated here, I will say that the PDnim is loving the controversies and their buzz, and that he will keep teasing us and will keep the controversies alive. It intrigues and promotes the drama lol.

 

His statements didn't diminished my former impressions. Because, when he said:   1)" "A woman in her 20s and a man in his 40s, anyone would think that they do not suit each other," and 2) "people cannot help but think of 'paid sexual relations with minors' or a gold-digger situation. It's not easy to understand the relationship unless it is sexual, but if you watch the drama, you will understand that it is a precious relationship"

 

I will ask:

1) What kind of relationship people would think not suitable for them? In my book only a romantic one, as we can see from the reactions that approuves friendship but nove loveline.

2) From what kind of relationship people could imply "paid sexual relations with minors" and "gold-digger situation"? In my book only those involving skinship (even sexual relations). 

 

It is true that he said that "My" ajussy refers to any kind of cool ajussy: My father ajusi, my brother ajussi, my friend ajussi, my neighbor ajussi, my teacher ajussi. And It can also refer to "My Lover Ajussi"  .

 

So, imo and from what was posted here, I agree that PDnim is being evasive. He didn't explicitly say "no loveline". However, as I said: this conclusion comes from my own delusion, fed by the scenes I saw today  

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1 hour ago, Sharine Phinisia said:

2 cents from the previews of eps 7:

1. It's kinda satisfying to see DH drag JY to the rooftop like a dog. And JY's change in front of DH was sickening... Like he lost all that classy aura and dignity at once... Which made me realize that from the beginning DH never feel inferior towards JY. Perhaps, JY was afraid to him and do everything to make sure he get fired bcs DH knows him the best, whereas JY know nothing about DH.

2. 'Should I kill him?' at this point they are just too cute.

3. There is a post here said that it must be romance bcs it is kinda impossible to have a soulmate that is closer to you more than your wife. But... Some people have that moment when their affinity match that other person, but it doesn't have to be necesarilly result in romance

 

Hi!

 

I think you refer to my post,right?

 

Maybe I'm wrong (and sorry if I'm), but I think you misunderstood me: what I wanted to say is that I believe in friendship between men and women (even if married); that I think it is possible (but rare) the existence of friends soulmates (without sexual desire or romantic love involved), but only amonsgt those of the same gender. 

 

For me, affinity and understanding is a condition to friendship. So, a woman can have a friendship with great affinity and understand with a man and vice-versa (that is: no romantic love or sexual desire). And that can last forever. 

 

But soulmates, imo, per definition is something more than affinity and understanding. Soulmate means to me two souls that complements each other, two souls in fusion that makes one, and that when apart long for each other and nobody else. 

 

I have no problem with dramas that depict only friendship between man and woman. I watched Forest of Secrets and loved it to death, and was very satisfied with the friendship between the leads. Their friendship became meaningful for each other (full of affinity and understanding), and IMO, it felt organic to the plot and development of the story. However, this result to me was possible because their relationship wasn't build as an encounter between soulmates, but as an encounter between two people with affinity and understanding (although sometimes unbalanced). 

 

And I will say again, what prevents me to see MA as just friendship, is the fact that the drama depicts JA and DH relationship as an soulmate encounter, what leads me to think that this was the original intention of the writer/pdnim. My bad if, at the end, they give in to the pressures.  

 

I'm sorry if my original post wasn't claire enough and (maybe) mislead you in some way.  

 

 

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5 minutes ago, sadiesmith said:

The scene where Ji An is running to DH thinking that he might jump off the bridge, did anyone else hear two different breaths?  At first I thought I was the only one hearing a woman's breath in addition to Dong Hoon's because no one made any comments on it.  But then someone on episode 5 of Dramabeans recap asked what it was, so I am not the only one wondering.  Any thoughts?  

 

 

 

I can only think about two things: 1. the director/writer one more time wants to stresses the connection (soulmates) between them; 2. breath can have the meaning of life, and this is true to the heart too, in making associations, we could make a parallel (analogy) between breath and heart, so: breaths which are connected, hearts which bit at the same compass. But don't mind me, I'm a bit delusional right now  .

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29 minutes ago, aisling said:

 

I think we should put the end to this age gap discussion and enjoy this gem of the show no matter which way it leads us. The more pressing concern should be the writer. Let’s pray she won’t screw up the second half of the show like she did with her previous drama.

 

Daebak!!!!!  

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@hushhh

 

I agree with almost everything what you said. I only want to point two things:

 

First, and I think you will agree with me, inbalaced relationship is problematic in every kind of story, be it because age gap or not. It is not the age gap per si the problem, but the inbalanced power between the lovers (and normally women are the weaker). So, it appears in dramas like Boys Before flowers (never watched and never will because this problem), where there isn't age gap (if I'm not wrong). To me, what is more problematic is the fact that this kind of inbalanced relationship is glamourized and normalized but not problematized. So I just ignores this kind of dramas. But, fortunately, here we have a balanced relationship. 

 

Second, I hope that I'm not being ridiculous  because I talk about romance between DH and JA. In fact, I think I'm not clamouring romance (and I'm not saying you are saying that I'm am, it is just that you made me think about it and reflect over this possibility), I'm just feeling it. I don't think that the writer have to or should write a romance, I just feel and see that s/he is writing one. I can be wrong in my interpretation (and if I am, I will desapear from here in shame, due my incompetence in see the kind of story was being told   - just kidding). Anyway, I enjoyed very much your post. 

 

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8 hours ago, nearsea said:

So beautifully written,you see posts like yours one gives me the confidence that it's okay to go ahead with what you feel lol. I don't know how it's gonna end but I'm very curious of what Ji An feels about Dong Hoon though. Both times when she ran fearing about his safety has so much feels that I couldn't help  wanting them to be each other's support system, damage control. Cause right now no matter what public might say, neither Yoon hee or Jung hee understands Dong Hoon as much Ji An does. I don't know what the writer thinks, but I can't see anyone but Ji An who can help him to discover his own trueself once again. 

Here's to hoping more interaction between Ji An and Dong Hoon , ( I just love the dialogues between these too, like the one where she says he's living a life sentence of earnestness) and less vomit close-ups. :/

 

Hi. I was planing to post something similar when I read what you wrote (in red). For me, this is capital: both women (wife and friend) till now never couldn't (or he wouldn't let it) understands him or pass through his wall. Only JA. 

 

Maybe the friend is there to show that it wasn't the absence of friendship with a woman - as it wasn't absence of love from his mother, brothers and male friends - which couldn't afford DH to be healed. It was the absence of that special person, and this is JA.

 

What I think interesting is that DH is loved by many people: mother, friends, brothers, work colleagues, I suppose his son. The only kind of love that he hasn't now is a woman's love. JA is the one who is leaving only with her grandmother's love. And maybe, because this fact, she is the first to fall in love (as I see it). I think that DH will provide every kind of love (including romantic) to JA - through himself and also through his family and friends. 

 

PS: I have a crazy theory: I think that JH could be the ex-wife of the CEO .

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Hello all!

 

I have been really busy these last days with what is happening in my country, therefore I couldn't come here, and now I can't read all posts, just those in this page. It is a pity, but if I get more time I will read all comments that I haven't read yet , 'cause I like very much all posts and insights here. 

 

I do believe in friendship between a man and a woman, as a believe that the notion of soulmates can also be applied to some kind of friendship. However, I believe that this kind of friendship has a limit. Soulmates friends/ kindred hearts friends between man and woman, imo, can only exist if they haven't partners. To me, a friendship between a man and woman, when both or one of them have/has a partner, can only last if the soulmate are/is the partner not the friend . 

 

I can't imagine how a wife/girlfriend can accept a relationship when her husband/boyfriend has more/better communication, understanding/comprehension with/from another woman through gazes, silence and even breath!!!. Conversely, how can a husband/boyfriend accept that his wife/girlfriend has another soulmate, a man who can understand, support, and with whom she will prefer stay in case of need/pain/sorrow/ happiness, 'cause it is the other guy who can understand her just with his gaze and even through silence?!?! It doens't/can't work: or the love partners will break up, because the friends are truly soulmates and can't live without each other support/proximity; or the friends will have to separates or avoid be in each other company, which is a contradiction and suffrance, cause soulmates per definition long to be with each other. 

 

In conclusion, I do believe in friendship between women and men, but I don't believe that when a man/woman finds his/her soulmate or kindredheart in someone from the opposite gender, it wouldn't lead to a romantic love. 

 

It is true that just friendship can lead to a healing processus too, as any other kind of realationship (even professional), but to do that, to help in that healing processus, a friend doesn't need to be a soulmate or a kindredheart. It needs only to be a true friend. 

 

The problem here is that DH and JA are being (slowed) build as soulmates/kindred hearts. They are presented here as the only ones who can understand and see the true self of each other. This notion is so strong that the writer/director convey this to us through the silences, gazes and breaths. The dialogs are very short and few. They don't need words.

 

Add to it the chemistry, the subtil "sensual" scenes, the stolen glances... And the more important: the dynamics between HD and JA are very mature and balanced, even if DH is older and her chef, dynamically and organicaly (I would even say dialeticaly) he is an equal in front of her.  So, lets make a exercise: if we put the age gap aside, would someone doubt that what is depict in the drama is a love store? Well, my answer is that with or not age gap this is a love store between a man and a woman. Now, if this love story will be obvious or subtil, latent or apparent, happy or sad, with skinship or without skinship, with confession or without confession, I don't know. I want to enjoy the show and slowly discover what kind of story the writer and the director will be abble to tell us.  

 

 

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2 hours ago, timidjock0819 said:

 

I am not buying into a full bloom romance between the two lead characters because seriously they still have so many issues to work on with their respective lives. More character development needs to happen first before focusing on the budding romance. Plus, no matter how giddy I am with the chemistry of LSK and IU - our gentle Ajusshi despite having a bad marriage is still very much married. I don't want DH's character to be an adulterer too. Let's leave that deed to his wife and boss. However, if the story of Jian and DH can be presented in a way that is atypical and their developing feelings for one another will make them better and happier people then that is something more unique. Falling in love does not necessarily equate to romance or grand confessions and gestures. These two odd ball is not our typical k-drama couple. Both are jaded and unhappy people that doing those eye candy sweetness aegyo will make Jian want to punch someones face. She is not that type of girl. I agree that with great direction and tight writing that the romance aspect could be presented subtle way with much tenderness so the viewers could comprehend the reason why DH and Jian developed those romantic feelings in the first place. The romance has to be something original and consistent to the personalities of DH and Jian. 

 

My two cents: I think the PD and writer are already presenting us with unique moments between DH and Jian. Their "come out, buy me food dates", silent train rides, awkward confrontations with brutal honesty,  and now episode 5 previews - it looks like they are both having a weird nonsensical conversation about the meaning of their names. Ok??? Their level of curiosity towards each other is enough to make anyone giddy at this point. 

 

Hi!

 

I think that it is what most of us are hoping  . It is an unusual story with unusual and complex characters, so I hope that - if there will be romance - its flow will follow  the general tone of the drama, and keeps its originality and lowkey.

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I will say just that: if it hasn't any love story in, why are they playing with this huge chemistry? After this episode, I think it is difficult to me to think that it will be only a platonic relationship. And now, I'm beginning to think that saying that this show wasn't a romantic story was a white lie, just to calm down people, let them see how great and good the chemistry between the leads is and makes everybody fall in love with their "lovestore", and accept it. 'Cause, if in episode 2 I thought maybe I was being delusional, now after episode 3 and the scenes at the restaurant, at the underground and the forced kiss - plus the references about a possible relationship between them and his (too much) effort to negate it (almost like what netzens said lol), and what he said about temptation, it is impossible to me not to think in romance. So, It is not my fault, it is the drama's fault (and maybe the actors' chemistry fault) lol.

 

So, I think that, if in fact there won't have any romance here, the writer has now a big problem, 'cause I think that s/he will have a hard time to make me believe that it is a platonic approach what makes sense here. Besides, in my opinion, what reinforces this is the fact that, dispite being young, JA character appears to be so old, mature and without innocence. Yeah: without innocence looks to be the best description, so the relationship doens't sound to me like an old-young relationship, but an adult-adult one (and sometimes it looks like DH is the one who is naive, and she the old one). It is a pity my english isn't good enough to express what I really want say, lol, but what I'm trying to say is that it is an adult drama, so it doesn't shy away from the seduction/sexuality/attraction theme; even if she is playing with him, the fact is, that this play involves sedution, and he is being affect by it. The consequences of this writer's choice - when s/he put a physical/love seduction and deception (for now) in the narrative, imo, is that it makes difficult to believe that after that, they will only have a platonic/spiritual connexion. 

 

I'm loving the show. I'm talking much more about the (romantic lol) relationship between DH-JA because it is the more compeling to me. But I'm loving the office's politics and the characters. However, it is still hard to me to connect with DH' brothers. 

 

Bye  

 

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8 hours ago, saya2 said:

How funny the fans when they said how can twenty year old girl fall in love with fourty five year old guy and don’t want romance between them but in goblin they don’t mind thousand year old guy to fall in love with high school girl just because he looks young  

 

for me I really don’t mind if there is love story between the leads I think they will be beautiful couple

 

 Hello! First time posting here .

 

I agree with you, I don't mind either. 

 

I really don't understand why all this turmoil about age gap. First of all, this is a show, a fiction and in fiction I think we can assume that an author can use her/his freedom of creation to compose things that can be or have an appearance of unusual, to make us see things differently. So, if we have a prejudice against age gap, a beautifull lovestory about a couple in this kind of situation could help us to understand people who in real life would experience this and be more tolerant towards them, even if we wouldn't accept that situation for ourselves. I think in arts and fiction there are two kinds of freedom: freedom of creation and freedom of choice. An author can create what s/he wants, the public have the freedom (if there is the access to) to watch/read/listen it (and like or dislike it) and to not watch/read/listen it (whatever are the reasons). Any other attitude is censorship, imo. 

 

Second, in real life, there are plenty of couples with great age gap (in both direction). Is this immoral? Is this ilegal when both are adults? Are those couples living in sin? 

 

So, if it makes sense, narratively wise, I see no problem in a lovestory with age gap. And, in my opinion, here is a case that it would make sense, more than only a friendship. In fact, it was the potential of the love store that brought me to watch this show. And I hope that the writer and producer don't give in to this kind of censorship and, if it was their original intent, dare to tell a lovestory, because it makes sense lol. 

 

So, the dynamic that I sense between the two leads is not platonic. First, because the kind of "attraction", curiosity that he has towards her isn't just friendly, it is more than that: she disturbes and confuses him; subjectively, I'm really feeling a subtle and latent sexual tension between them, in special during the last scene of ep. 2. Am I delusional? Maybe lol.  

 

Btw, I can really enjoy a drama without loveline . But, when I think that romance makes sense, I don't see why we couldn't enjoy it, if it is the writer intention.  

 

 

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

As I said still didn't watch it raw (maybe will wait first for the subs). But from the recaps and from the few scenes posted I really feel myself satisfied with the show in regards to DS-TK. Maybe because I'm also a SW-BR shipper and was a bit sad because they had very few scenes last episodes that I'm really happy now about both couples.

What makes me feel sad now, and with a little bittersweet feeling, it is that I wished to see/know more about JH and DR. To me, this was the weak point of this episode. I would gladly sacrificed two or three minutes of SW-BR-TK-DS to get more knowledge about DR and JH lives.

Anyway, till now, happy with the both couple's arc .

 

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

Hello!

I didn't saw the episode yet, just read the recaps. But, I just want to say a big thanks to everybody here, the fellows and the recapers

I would like to add too, that I enjoying very much making part of this thread, even if in the begining i was unwilling to . However, Taek's appeal was really great and I'm gratefull to all of you who respect and accept my initial unwillingness.

Last, but not least, I enjoyed very much the many many insightful posts you all shared here. But most important, I enjoyed the warmthy that has beeing since the begning the soul of this thread.

Thank you very much! Obrigada!

 

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There is a current debate on the main thread, but as I'm a coward (lol), I won't get involved there, but I will adress it here.

It goes about the fact that DS/TK or whatever loveline is weaker in 88 than in 97 and 94.

Well, I didn't whatched '97 (because in 2012 it was my first year watching kdrama and I wasn't still used of some kdramas maneirism lol. So, I was completely chocked an displeased with the main girl hiting badly the guy lol [now I'm more used to it and can close an eye lol]), I dropped afetr the first or second episode. So if the criteria to decide the better couple is the amount of hitting, for sure DS and TK are better than '97 couple lol.

I watched '94 loved it, loved the dinamic between trash and NJ and I still think they are a great couple. However I think it isn't fair to make comparison between Trash-NJ and Tk-DS because their dinamics are differents, but most of all their shows are completely different!

'97 is a love story drama, where family and friendship has very much to do with it.

'88 is a family drama, where friendship and love story has very much to do with it.

So, it is just obvious that in '88 love stories will be less developed, for the main thema is family (with parents-children issues, friendships issues, love issues, and individual issues). From the begining they said it will a different show, a family show. And we got an awesome show, with an awesome character, who is Taek (to me, with Bora, he is the most relatable character).

'94 is also an awesome show, with one big problem: CB arc, who was poorly written (and ended!).

As a Trash-NJ shipper I refuse to make comparison with DS-TK, I don't see where is the point, I don't see why we have to chose one, I think it is undeserving for both couple.

Last: Bravo to the author. If there is something great in this drama ('88) is the fact that she dared to show two main female lead who contraries the so rigid portraited of the femine morality in k dramas - both girls dated and/or fell in love before reaching their true love .

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

It seems that most people here were CB' shipper, is that so?

I, for my turn, I was Trash-NJ from the get go lol.

But I'm happy we can now share our commun joy .

BTW, I was lurking through the MT and I thought that now people would have accept Taek is the husband. But no, they are interpretating previews and so on!

I'm surprised, but it seems that people really don't see/hear what the writer is clearly showing and saying lol. How that is possible?

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

Congratulations everybody!!!

And yes a big group hug

This 1% ship is really fantastic. It shows that we really believed and appreciated the writer beautiful work. Against all odds (kdrama tradition and rules) we kept looking at the direction the author was pointing to us!

At the end of the day, the success of our Taetanic reposes on the fact that the real captains of our ship was none others than the Writer and PD nim team!

We believed in their story and we agreed to trust in their leadership, "contra viento y marea"!

Congratulations to this ship.

Let's keep rejoycing in our baduk etiquette!  

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4 hours ago, nearsea said:

@monsterlife I know,but let's just keep us busy with the mad speculations,why not.Let's see what we have in hand.And we were always the underdog to start with.And,this could be another misleading hint too right? Wasn't there any like this on reply'94? I did not watch the final episodes.

Here's the tweet again.

 

-Calling out our CSI team for rescue again.Maybe they can watch the scene in 1080p,with the extra specs on.

 

Maybe I'm a bit late in this, but I don't think DS is wearing a necklace under the sweter.

I believe that it is just the effect of the sweater knitting design, combined with the play of light and shadow.

As I said, I can't post pic here, but if we look at the following frames:

The sweater design has three "braids" knitted/trimmed: on 47’’, the first (on our left) receives full light, and here it looks like there is also a “necklace” behind. Then, DS moves and the light now falls over the second/mid braid (on 48”) and we have the “necklace effect”. BUT the key to interpret the “necklace effect” is that the third braid falls completely under DS’s shin/face shadow, therefore, the first block of the braid becomes prominent and it get the effect of “necklace”.  We can’t see the third braid under the light because they cut to TK.

But I believe very much that there isn’t any necklace under DS’s sweater. The "clue" is the first frame that DS appears in, at 47".

To me, what is meaningful is that she is wearing – in two opportunities – a pink sweater.  

 

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

As I said before, I’m not that into the color or poppet’s theories, however I couldn’t help myself but noted the following:

1.    1.   Until episode 17 (1989) there were many details in JH’s room with the green color;

2.     2. In episode 18 (1994) (from 25’36’’), almost every green color disappeared from JH’s room, and now the blue color is spread everywhere, including in a painting. Blue is really in evidence there. The only green detail that I could perceived was the game pieces that were very much in evidence until episode 17, but in episode 18 it was placed very discreetly at the left side of JH’s room. Can you guys see another green in his room?

Unfortunally I can’t make screen shot and post here, but if one of you could make the visual comparison I would be really grateful.  

BTW, isn’t JH’s car dark blue? Or is it black? To me it seems to be dark blue.

About parallelisms, I notice that when JB was waiting for (possible) Maggie, each time the door opened he looked at it very anxiously, because he was anticipating her arrival. I think we can say that DS looking at the door is a parallelism with JB’s case. It should mean that both JB and DS were anxiously waiting for their beloved one.   

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

I have just a question: from the middle of episode 14 to the last minute of episode 18, how many meaningful moments (love line wise), DS and JH shared together and alone?  I mean, it doesn’t count the confession, ‘cause they weren’t alone then; and it doesn’t count either the time in JH’s car, because there DS was more interested in her beeper than in JH.

I really can’t remember any.

So, if a writer – towards the end of his/her oeuvre (work) – doesn’t write any single romantic/meaningful scene between a girl and a guy (they alone): neither direct (meaning physically) nor indirect (meaning through shared memory/thoughts/or dreams), how can we believe that they are meant to be the writer’s main couple?!? From the point of view of a narrative construction, it sounds impossible to me. I’m not a writer (in the sense of I don’t write novels/ficcion) but because my work I have to write papers, and I know that even in non-fictional works the writer has build a coherent narrative, to support his/her claims/arguments,  through datas/evidences that lead to a conclusion that confirms his/hers. One cannot present evidences to achieve a conclusion that negates or contradicts his/her arguments/claims: if this is the case, then or the argument is wrong/weak/false (not supported by the evidences) or the evidences are weak/false.

So, what I want to say is: what was depicted to us (in special from mid episode 14) is that DS and JH isn’t a couple, because to be a couple the writer has to demonstrate (shows evidences that supports) that they are a couple (his/her argument). If at the end the writer says DS-JH are a couple, then I can judge that the conclusion presented is weak based or in a weak/false argument or in a weak/false evidences.

In this sense, and because I think the author is really great, I have the theory that in fact there are two questions that the author proposes to us:

First: Who is the husband?

Second: Who makes the main couple?

For me, the first question is answered by the trolling clues. And from this point of view, there are trolling clues for either guy: TK and JH. As time goes by, the trolling clues points more consistently to the right guy who forms the couple, for if it wasn’t this way the narrative will become schizophrenic (this is why in my opinion there is more and more clues pointing to Taek). My conclusion: this question is to have fun (lol) – and drives fans crazy.

The second question is the main questions (in scientific words: the problematic of the thesis), and it is answered through the wonderful flow of the writer’s narrative. And this flow builds up very carefully the argument that DS-TK forms the main couple of this story. To demonstrate this s/he provides many evidences: in special the many meaningful moments that DS and Taek shared together. The logical conclusion: they are meant to be the couple.

So, this is why I’m confident that the chances that Taek is the husband amount to 96%.

Good night!

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

Hi people. Maybe this will be my last post before next week episodes (I'm strangely too busy here this week lol). But now I would like to point something (not too long and maybe not too well explained 'cause my english limitations [sorry])

I want to say that maybe to understand the whole JH's confession set up we have to really abstrac from our mind the husband hunt thing and just focus on the way the writter narrated it and the way PD directed it. Maybe it is difficult to do it, but I think it's worth it (so I made the experience with my 13 years old son - who doesn't knew nothing about the drama, only that it was a love triangle lol). So, making that abstraction, what we have?

1. The whole build up of Boy's accepting his passivity/ cowardicy; and accepting he was too late.

2. The OT5 will have a date in a restaurant;

3. Boy gives a ride to the Girl. On the route she keeps checking her bip.

4. At the restaurant, Girl looks when the door opens, as in expection;

5. Boy puts the ring on the table, and makes his confession;

6. We see a mix of emotions through Girl's face/eyes (and everybody can feel free to interpretate what kind of emotion they are [I have my our opinion]);

7. After he speaks, there is a pause, Girl face is showed, and she presses her lips and looks down. THEN, Boy turns it as a joke and the guys are relieved:

8. They ask Girl if she was fooled too. More Girl expression to be interpretated;

9. The door opens again; Girl looks at it as in expectation; Boy sees it and smiles;

10. There is NO meaningfull exchange of looks between Boy and Girl. The rest of the time they were always showed as a group; a happy one. They leave the table;

11. The camera focus on the ring which was forgot on the table.

And of episode.

So. If this was a normal movie/drama, what conclusions we would take from the writer's point of view? What would we think it was the message the writer wanted to convey?

My answer would be that the writer/pd clearly showed that the girl doesn't return Boy's love. She experienced many emotions through his confession and "joke", but no regrets, no yes I love you too feeling.

As I said, I showed the clip of JH's confession to my son, to make an experience from a "innocent point of view" lol. His reaction: after a few seconds, he said "wow, she will say no"; then he became very embarassed with JH's situation - he laughed really nervously lol - and his veredic was that she didn't look interested. Then I told him about the other guy and the points 3,4 and 9. He said: she was interested in the other guy, that's is obvious - according to him.

To me, it is clear that from the pov of set up and writing, DS will not say yes to JH. But, the case is, sometimes k dramas writers really screw up the last two episodes of their own drama (let's not remember here MLED lol).

So, I still think that there is a chance that JH's will turn to be the husband. But, Taek's chances amount to 90%, imho.

Bye

 

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

Three things:

1. This episode could also be called Live is irony III, for DS accused hubby for being dating many girls, and it was in fact DS who dated for real lol

2. I never wanted to say that, because I always believed 2015 DS-Husband were there mostly to be source of troll (lol). However, since the first time I saw Taek's reaction to DK, when he just stared at her in silence after she said something that bothered him, I thought the way present husband reacted - staring in silence at DS - when she said he had dated many girls very but very Taek-like. But maybe just another troll

3. In regards to DS's reaction at JH's confession. First of all, I think any woman will feel herself flattered to be the object of such confession, in special from a guy like JH. Second, again maybe I'm just not good at reading others feeling, but what I got from DH's reactions, face and eyes, was a feeling of nostalgia. Yes, nostalgia. Just that: nostalgia as an echo from her past, but nonetheless the past.

bye and good night  

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

I think I know now why I love Bora's character so much (besides her activism): she is a 1% chance girl lol. And one that "got" her chance  

So, I think you should claim Bora the godmother for this ship  

For, I think the majority of you came onboard to the taetanic believing in that unbelieveble 1% chance that he could be the husband.

Yes, me too, until episode 6 I was sure JH was the husband, leaving room for 1% chance that it wouldn't be him (we never know, right?). Then step by step Taek chances grew up - in a very solidified and well written way - and after episode 16 I was giving a 60% rate pro taek. Now, imo, the chances pro taek as the husband came to an unbelieveble 90% (to keep it in low key).

[and maybe, the 1% chance that Bora told SW was also a way that the writer conveyed to say to the viewers: never but never despise a 1% chance in a story which is well written   ]

About JH  - I agree with you that - if we take only the narrative's flow of last episode - it was one that gave closure to JH's one sided love. Many of you had already pointed out how and why this was his closure. But, I don't know if you already notice that at the end of the episode, when they were showing the credits, they made a compilation of pics of some o the "best JH-DS's moments", and the last pic was one with JH alone,and then fade out. To me, maybe in a biased way, I really read it as a farwell.

[Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN]

15 minutes ago, JCgirl 001 said:

 do you really think TK said he tried dating other girls? or was that just some crazy voodoo editing they did to make us thing he did? lol

Do you think when JH trained to be a pilot that he would have had time to date other girls? and JH taking that pink shirt and the misunderstanding incident makes me worried that it might be brought up again in the present time and something may happen as a result...

 

It's just my bet for tomorrow. I could also name this as my divination . Just a theory that I did build from the preview's few scenes and translations posted here!

Just a bet!

Nothing more.