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  1. @40somethingahjumma @Rose34 i'm behind you guys all the way! i always agree with your posts ! sometimes i already planned to write something and then i stumble upon your post and say 'oh never mind its posted already' loll. and also there's one user that i feel like i always agree to her/him, the writer of overthingkingkdrama tumblr, i heard she/he is also here in the forum but i forgot the username.. xD but anyways nice to meet you guys in this forum! 

    @40somethingahjumma @Rose34 i'm behind you guys all the way! i always agree with your posts ! sometimes i already planned to write something and then i stumble upon your post and say 'oh never mind its posted already' loll. and also there's one user that i feel like i always agree to her/him, the writer of overthingkingkdrama tumblr, i heard she/he is also here in the forum but i forgot the username.. xD but anyways nice to meet you guys in this forum! 

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  2. btw thankyou so muchhh @akinahana89 !! i love you and the video! thankyou for realizing our wish to tell the cast how much we support them. now we just hope they see it ! much love chingu, cheers!

    btw thankyou so muchhh @akinahana89 !! i love you and the video! thankyou for realizing our wish to tell the cast how much we support them. now we just hope they see it ! much love chingu, cheers!

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  3. 15 hours ago, fengari said:

    In BH and WS ´s last meeting, BH announces to WS, WW ´s death, and adds that "now, no one left to visit, so I leave". I think that BH visits to WW and maybe to WJ(a visit we didn´t witnessed) were made under WS request: WS asked BH to visit everyone was close to HS and  "record" their memories with her in paintings. This is why we have the painting with the WW-HS promenade in the snow, and Lady Hae death. Also the scene with the HS´s comic bow in front of the king.(sole alive witnesses back then in this scene were WW and his mother).  

    So, it was WS who wanted to leave  signs for her that he (and not only him but all the persons she loved and cared for)  remembers. The fact, that he  delivers also memories of her time with WW, shows that he holds no grudge, that he understood, and that he respects her memories . (damn, tears comes as i am writting this

    omg you cleared my last question! it's so beautiful if this is really the intention of the scriptwriter. i wished they had shown it more in the scenes though, or make it clearer from the dialogues because it really confuses many people and it can also create misunderstandings of 'lazy wrting' . eclipses are so good in making stories that i think we can make a better script lol 

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  4. i am also one of the minority who likes the ending @LyraYoo yay! hahaha. i dont know but its somehow new, unpredictable and it doesnt give a forced happy ending. well bu bu jing xin's story core has always been two people who fall in love in the wrong time and place.. so, it is a proper ending that although they love each other, they can't be together, and they still love each other even long after. i love it but its just too heartbreaking </3

    i am also one of the minority who likes the ending @LyraYoo yay! hahaha. i dont know but its somehow new, unpredictable and it doesnt give a forced happy ending. well bu bu jing xin's story core has always been two people who fall in love in the wrong time and place.. so, it is a proper ending that although they love each other, they can't be together, and they still love each other even long after. i love it but its just too heartbreaking </3

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  5. 2 hours ago, hiluna said:

    I don't understand, am I missing something? Why does HS think GJ turned crazy?  He hasn't done anything crazy yet except to indulge in his moment alone with his nasty mother and executing a regicidal murderer.  Her love was just not strong enough to stand by GJ, the king.  The real monster is Wook and yet she can still smile at him but not at GJ? Go figure, her emotions and logic make no sense. If she had left him for his sake to keep him safe because she was his weakness, it would have been the epic love story that we expected, but the writer got lazy and just followed the C-version.

    actually i was saying  as a comparison, OUR BEST FRIEND turnt crazy from our point of view, in  sense that they suddenly behave very weirdly that went against everything we have ever believed and learnt in this world. sorry but i think my language its confusing and it made you it misunderstood. GJ did not turn crazy, but for HS he is behaving so out of control, from her point of view. its like a children throwing tantrum and it doesn't make sense to her. why? because she growed up being loved by people.

    second, HS cant smile to him because she's trying to leave him, whereas when she smiles to WW it's like she doesnt even hate him anymore. its like WW is the past and forgotten. poof.gone.not important. thats why she can smile at him (and an emotionless smile too)

    lastly, If HS left him for his sake and to keep him safe, it would be like another romance IMO and there's nothing new to it. here, hae soo left because she feels like she have to safe herself. moreover, i think it's really brilliant as it very consistently depicts HS who is a modern woman and a very strongly opinionated at that.

     i know. it doesnt make sense to a lot of people but apparently from what i see, the fans opinions are very divided. what i'm saying here maybe does not make sense to you, but it make sense to people who thinks the same as me ( refer to the tumblr link about HS, someone posted it a while back). :)

    thankyou for discussing it with me! 

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  6. omyGod my one and ONLY wish is not to have the K-drama ends like C-drama where they meet and WS doesn't recognize HS.

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    BUT NOT LIKE THIS. HELP. WAIT WAIT THAT CANT BE IT??

    omyGod my one and ONLY wish is not to have the K-drama ends like C-drama where they meet and WS doesn't recognize HS.

    ....

    ...

    BUT NOT LIKE THIS. HELP. WAIT WAIT THAT CANT BE IT??

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  7. i dont understand.. but in my opinion, everything make sense.. i mean.. HS already decided to leave WS so whatever he does cannot change her mind.. Us, as viewers see in whole, that's why we sympathize and feel sad for WS because we see everyone is leaving him.

    but if we put ourselves in the character's shoes for instance, if we see our beloved best friend turn crazy somehow, we would try to stick with them at first but eventually we will realize that no one will change that BFF's behaviour other than themselves. rather than us being unhappy, we would leave them right...

    same with HS here, she doesn't know that BA will also leave So, its just that she already decided to leave WS and then richard simmons happens, and BA also decides to leave So for his own good too. and it seems like everyone is leaving So. we cant really blame anyone, its just how the palace works i guess... a lonely seat 

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  8. 1 hour ago, Killa92 said:

    I was talking about the SBS year end drama award not the Korea drama award :)

    They are Killing us. Maybe if next episode will make us so badly sad at least these two lovely OTP interaction in IG & real life make our heart flutter. Haha

    @Killa92 oh okay, did SBS release its nominations yet? they havent right? i think they are gonna release it some time in end november or early dec? i hope they have atleast a nomination for Scarlet heart 

    1 hour ago, Killa92 said:

    I was talking about the SBS year end drama award not the Korea drama award :)

    They are Killing us. Maybe if next episode will make us so badly sad at least these two lovely OTP interaction in IG & real life make our heart flutter. Haha

    @Killa92 oh okay, did SBS release its nominations yet? they havent right? i think they are gonna release it some time in end november or early dec? i hope they have atleast a nomination for Scarlet heart 

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  9. honestly, i have never seen actor/actresses who play in a drama post this many stuff about the drama they are in, so the interaction of ML's casts in instagram are quite new to me (or probably i never paid that much attention to instagrams...) so lovely, it shows they are very close with one another, and i could imagine a happy environment is all actor/actresses could ever ask for in filmings.. so i'm happy for them

    btw whats all this about drama awards? i dont think sbs put up their nominees for this year award yet, right? or do you guys mean the korea drama awards? 

     

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  10. i wasn't really down on the second season speculations, but well i would watch it all the way for the casts, staff, and directors! i really hope if they do make a second season, don't let it be a downer :(  

    i wasn't really down on the second season speculations, but well i would watch it all the way for the casts, staff, and directors! i really hope if they do make a second season, don't let it be a downer :(  

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  11. 2 hours ago, pauexclusive said:

    Amplified Life lessons by MLSHR:

    1. Change is inevitable

    2. You can never have everything

    3. Patience is a virtue 

    4. Don't be hard on yourself 

    5. Be careful on what you wish for

    I am in deep richard simmons hahaha keep scrolling.

    you missed one i think, be satisfied with what you have and never covet others loll

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  12. 3 hours ago, antiherofans said:

     

    I don't know why but I also watch running man (with So, Yo, Wook) and family outing with So to ease my pain

    And the healing camp with Joon Gi. Ah, the way he talks and his voice during healing camp can heal my wound :wub:

     

    and @janny2812 omg! same with you guys i always watch running man after depressing episodes of any korean dramas ( God i love that show so mmuch) which will make Monday double the heartbreak for me... coz its the dreaded episode 19 AND gary's last episode (and my exam coming in tues). no.i just can't :( 

    3 hours ago, antiherofans said:

     

    I don't know why but I also watch running man (with So, Yo, Wook) and family outing with So to ease my pain

    And the healing camp with Joon Gi. Ah, the way he talks and his voice during healing camp can heal my wound :wub:

     

    and @janny2812 omg! same with you guys i always watch running man after depressing episodes of any korean dramas ( God i love that show so mmuch) which will make Monday double the heartbreak for me... coz its the dreaded episode 19 AND gary's last episode (and my exam coming in tues). no.i just can't :( 

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  13. 1 minute ago, Sharine Phinisia said:

     

    And koaladrama too. Most comments point on "messy plot" and "lack of chemistry", etc etc. boy, not that I care, but as long as one top list consists drama such as BBF and The Heir (no offense to their die-hard fans and success) then i'll just kiss that list sayonara bye-bye :))

    Spoiler

     

    whopps you said it... HAHA i refrain from saying the bad dramas according to my opinion.. dont get me wrong i LOVE the idea of BBF, and i also watch it over and over (dude.. it got lee min ho and kimbum, duh?), whereas heir is... just nope (lee min ho and woo bin cannot save the drama, ONCE AGAIN i'm sorry for the diehard fans, its just my own humble preference). But if thats the top korean drama of any list then, well, i would just say probably what it means is Top "romcom-light weight-happy ending- go-to k-drama -when-the- good- dramas- are- too -depressing" list. 

    NB. whereas the dramas like God gift 14 days, W, signal which i think are really good got low ratings also :(

    MSLHR is very good i think. the international version, well... i cant say anything about the editing, but when they edit it again in korean version, its a next level excellence. 

     

    i put under spoiler coz we dont really talk about MSLHR (even tho we do a little)

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  14. 1 hour ago, Akiddo said:

    New stills...they usually make me anticipate the upcoming Mon-Tue episodes. Now...not so. This is the last weekend for episode updates and I am not ready to let it go. All the arrows are pointing toward a similar development as the C drama/novel. The misunderstanding between So and Soo continues...

    I came across a commentary on Weibo about ep 17 and 18. A very fair commentary on the situation and characters. She wrote really well - all in Chinese though. Here's a snippet.


    他爱她,用坚贞去证明,如果树儿不认可,他绝不娶她人,即便,那可以稳固他的皇位,知梦知道无法说服他,才不得已去找树儿,他爱她,即便别的女人做了类似的伪装,也无法逃过他的法眼,哪怕醉着,只看一眼嘴唇,凑近闻一闻气息,他就能辨出真假。该是多爱,才会如此熟悉。也正因为太爱,才会对她的不理解而分外伤心。

    My rough translation:

    He loves her, using his unwavering loyalty to prove to her. If Soo didn't approve, he would have never married another - even if it could stabilise his position. Ji Mong knew he couldn't convince So, hence he had no choice but to approach Soo. He loves her, even if another woman pretended to be Soo. It couldn't escape his sharp eyes, even if he was drunk. A look at the lips, a whiff of her scent - he knew right from wrong. He must love her deeply, to be so familiar. And because he loves her too much, he is even more upset that she didn't understand him...

     

    yeah this commentary is excellent... you know its similar like when we really need our mother/sisters/brothers/best friends to stand up for us even when they think our actions are wrong. and can you imagine how dissapointed and hurt are we when they try to tell us that what we did was wrong. we just think that we're on the right and we have such high expectations from them to choose our side, that we forget, the only one who can stand up for ourselves is ourselves. xD poor wangSo have lack of love since he was little and he has such high expectations from HS and BA ... when one rise their expectations too high, the fall will be further and more hurtful, that's why he felt so betrayed when HS didnt take his side

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  15. 22 minutes ago, ilovecoffeeandbooks said:

    Haha, omg, me too! I get angry when the drama is criticized (even when it's valid!). In fact, I was just over at Dramabeans reading the post of what they're watching and every one of them dissed MLSHR (again, whether valid or not)... I was so mad I closed the page and came back over here. Not only has the cast and crew put in so much effort and love into this drama, so have I! Waking up early to watch the lives, running up my data bill looking up everything I can when I'm at work, lurking Soompi between episodes, obsessively checking Twitter/Instagram/Tumblr, outing myself as a rabid K-Drama fan at work because I *have* to talk to someone about it. I refuse to have my hard work looked down upon.

    Oh, love is blind. Or at least, in denial.

    to me, dramabeans is like rotten tomatoes. yes they are movie critics, but sometimes they take it too far.. lol xD not all movie has to be perfect (and in this case, drama series) and what makes any art forms memorable is us fans. i think this drama has suceeded masively in hooking up fans, from the creativity in story line, from beautiful soundtracks, beautiful set, beautiful actors and from the chemistry of the characters. lol i know how you feel coz i too was once pissed coz they gave one of my all time favourite drama (W) a harsh criticism, and i swear to God i can really tackle all of their critics with my logic. but then, i saw their drama scoring (so they have this segment where they rate all korean dramas according to their opinion from scale 1-10) and i saw some of really bad dramas that i cant even bear to continue achieve high ratings there (i forgot what were the titles, but i think there were 3 dramas) and i realize, oh well, dramabeans are just another person like us loll! cheer up chingu! MSHLR is so lucky to have a fan like you (and like all of us)

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  16. 4 hours ago, violet90 said:

    you know what make me want to cry later on when Su die???? 

    she did said to Jung that she want to travel go to the dessert and ocean.. that's why she did't want to be buried cause once again even after death she still tied to one place.. when she alive the palace make her suffer and she being caged the whole time so when she die she want to be free like a bird... and she will ask Jung to cremated and scatter her ash.. i don't know but it will break my heart seeing Jung will explain to So what Su truly wanted cause all this time he did't know Su have that ambition... 

    there is so many thing that So did't know actually.. yes he been in love with her so many years but now that she loves him everything that she wanted she burried deep down in order to stay with him.. i think it will destroy So knowing all this...

    :tears:

    but he did know tho? remember when he brought her out of the palace on horse back? after their first kiss together, he wanted to bring HS out of the palace right that instance, and again when he proposed to her. It's so sad that HS didn't even think of being trapped in the palace (aka being queen) because she wanted to be with So as his guidance to be a good king. she just realized that shes gonna be trapped just after Jung reminded her when she was praying (episode 17) 

    4 hours ago, violet90 said:

    you know what make me want to cry later on when Su die???? 

    she did said to Jung that she want to travel go to the dessert and ocean.. that's why she did't want to be buried cause once again even after death she still tied to one place.. when she alive the palace make her suffer and she being caged the whole time so when she die she want to be free like a bird... and she will ask Jung to cremated and scatter her ash.. i don't know but it will break my heart seeing Jung will explain to So what Su truly wanted cause all this time he did't know Su have that ambition... 

    there is so many thing that So did't know actually.. yes he been in love with her so many years but now that she loves him everything that she wanted she burried deep down in order to stay with him.. i think it will destroy So knowing all this...

    :tears:

    but he did know tho? remember when he brought her out of the palace on horse back? after their first kiss together, he wanted to bring HS out of the palace right that instance, and again when he proposed to her. It's so sad that HS didn't even think of being trapped in the palace (aka being queen) because she wanted to be with So as his guidance to be a good king. she just realized that shes gonna be trapped just after Jung reminded her when she was praying (episode 17) 

    4 hours ago, violet90 said:

    you know what make me want to cry later on when Su die???? 

    she did said to Jung that she want to travel go to the dessert and ocean.. that's why she did't want to be buried cause once again even after death she still tied to one place.. when she alive the palace make her suffer and she being caged the whole time so when she die she want to be free like a bird... and she will ask Jung to cremated and scatter her ash.. i don't know but it will break my heart seeing Jung will explain to So what Su truly wanted cause all this time he did't know Su have that ambition... 

    there is so many thing that So did't know actually.. yes he been in love with her so many years but now that she loves him everything that she wanted she burried deep down in order to stay with him.. i think it will destroy So knowing all this...

    :tears:

    but he did know tho? remember when he brought her out of the palace on horse back? after their first kiss together, he wanted to bring HS out of the palace right that instance, and again when he proposed to her. It's so sad that HS didn't even think of being trapped in the palace (aka being queen) because she wanted to be with So as his guidance to be a good king. she just realized that shes gonna be trapped just after Jung reminded her when she was praying (episode 17) 

    4 hours ago, violet90 said:

    you know what make me want to cry later on when Su die???? 

    she did said to Jung that she want to travel go to the dessert and ocean.. that's why she did't want to be buried cause once again even after death she still tied to one place.. when she alive the palace make her suffer and she being caged the whole time so when she die she want to be free like a bird... and she will ask Jung to cremated and scatter her ash.. i don't know but it will break my heart seeing Jung will explain to So what Su truly wanted cause all this time he did't know Su have that ambition... 

    there is so many thing that So did't know actually.. yes he been in love with her so many years but now that she loves him everything that she wanted she burried deep down in order to stay with him.. i think it will destroy So knowing all this...

    :tears:

    but he did know tho? remember when he brought her out of the palace on horse back? after their first kiss together, he wanted to bring HS out of the palace right that instance, and again when he proposed to her. It's so sad that HS didn't even think of being trapped in the palace (aka being queen) because she wanted to be with So as his guidance to be a good king. she just realized that shes gonna be trapped just after Jung reminded her when she was praying (episode 17) 

    4 hours ago, violet90 said:

    you know what make me want to cry later on when Su die???? 

    she did said to Jung that she want to travel go to the dessert and ocean.. that's why she did't want to be buried cause once again even after death she still tied to one place.. when she alive the palace make her suffer and she being caged the whole time so when she die she want to be free like a bird... and she will ask Jung to cremated and scatter her ash.. i don't know but it will break my heart seeing Jung will explain to So what Su truly wanted cause all this time he did't know Su have that ambition... 

    there is so many thing that So did't know actually.. yes he been in love with her so many years but now that she loves him everything that she wanted she burried deep down in order to stay with him.. i think it will destroy So knowing all this...

    :tears:

    but he did know tho? remember when he brought her out of the palace on horse back? after their first kiss together, he wanted to bring HS out of the palace right that instance, and again when he proposed to her. It's so sad that HS didn't even think of being trapped in the palace (aka being queen) because she wanted to be with So as his guidance to be a good king. she just realized that shes gonna be trapped just after Jung reminded her when she was praying (episode 17) 

    4 hours ago, violet90 said:

    you know what make me want to cry later on when Su die???? 

    she did said to Jung that she want to travel go to the dessert and ocean.. that's why she did't want to be buried cause once again even after death she still tied to one place.. when she alive the palace make her suffer and she being caged the whole time so when she die she want to be free like a bird... and she will ask Jung to cremated and scatter her ash.. i don't know but it will break my heart seeing Jung will explain to So what Su truly wanted cause all this time he did't know Su have that ambition... 

    there is so many thing that So did't know actually.. yes he been in love with her so many years but now that she loves him everything that she wanted she burried deep down in order to stay with him.. i think it will destroy So knowing all this...

    :tears:

    but he did know tho? remember when he brought her out of the palace on horse back? after their first kiss together, he wanted to bring HS out of the palace right that instance, and again when he proposed to her. It's so sad that HS didn't even think of being trapped in the palace (aka being queen) because she wanted to be with So as his guidance to be a good king. she just realized that shes gonna be trapped just after Jung reminded her when she was praying (episode 17) 

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  17. 19 minutes ago, liddi said:

    There seems to be a prevalent misconception that the novel has 4th Prince getting to Ruoxi in time but he doesn't, and I just reverified this with my copy of the novel. He received Ruoxi's letter (within another envelope penned by 14th) the day after it was sent, but he threw it aside, thinking it was yet another mocking letter from 14th. He only received word that she died from the official notification of deaths for the royal family a week later. Basically, the novel and Cdrama do not deviate far at all, apart from the fact that in the novel, Ruoxi never returned to the future after her death.

    Chapter 20 of Vol 2 in the novel depicts Ruoxi waiting in vain for him every day after writing the letter, During those last days, she once thought she saw 4th Prince finally there, but it was only 14th Prince. Her last words in the novel regarding him were to her maid, saying "他不會來了。 He will not be coming." It was a gentle statement but backed with the resigned conviction that stems from the void when all hope had gone. And when she died, the closing words of the chapter were a devastating echo of her regret...

    第一最好不相見,如此便可不相戀     Firstly, it's best never to have met, that we may never fall in love
    第二最好不相知,如此便可不相思     Secondly, it's best never to have known each other, that we would never miss one another

    The only question is... what will the Goryeo version do? Will it allow Soo to die, thinking to the last that he resents her (just as she asked him, twice in Ep16 "Do you still... resent me?"), and Gwangjong to live the rest of his life with immeasurable regret? Or will it allow them one final meeting before she passes? 

    Firstly, thankyou for sharing this and clarifying! :) secondly, omyGod this just destroys all little hope i've got left..... :" :" he will never reach in time won't he :( 

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  18. 27 minutes ago, Akiddo said:

    Ep 19 - 20: Farewell to my eternal love

    Ep 17-18 sped up the sequence of events in the original novel and C-BBJX. We have 2 more episodes to bring this epic love story to a close.

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    In BBJX, the eagle incident happened during Kangxi's reign. That incident ended 8th Prince's lifelong struggle to be the crown prince/emperor. The attention shifted to 14th prince to take over the throne as he became powerful as a grand general and was the favoured sonwith strong family backing from his maternal side. When 4th prince took over the throne by force - the 8th prince gang was up in arms to fight but were helpless against a very prepared 4th Prince who had Longkodo and Nian Gengyao. 14th prince was faraway from the palace in a battle. Ruoxi was also the first to kneel and greet 4th prince as emperor at the death bed of Kangxi. RX's guilt was extremely deep rooted as Kangxi was a father like figure to her and she knew 4th Prince didn't get the throne through an honourable way. But she knew history was at stake and went along with it. 

    Hence the 8th Prince punishment to kneel in front of a temple over some incident. Ruoxi prayed on her kneels, followed by standing for the whole night in her room to protest against the punishment. He was eventually released from his punishment but this was the beginning of the rift between 4th Prince and Ruoxi, 13th prince warned Ruoxi to let go of all matters related to 8th Prince to keep him safe but she couldn't due to her compassion to all the princes, not just because of her past relationship with 8th. Things just spiralled downwards from there. 8th Prince's story arch was really sad and I for one felt that 4th prince went overboard by getting him to divorce his wife - causing her to commit suicide. The misunderstanding between RX and 4th prince went deeper and deeper to the point where they had to part. 

     

    In the ep 19 preview, the sequence of events are jumbled in my opinion. My version for Ep 19-20 is as follows. Parts of Baek Ah and Woo Hee are not included as my concern is only So-Soo. Points 11-25 could be vastly different from the drama. I just need to get these thoughts out of my system. 

    1. GJ plots to get rid of Wook - with the help of YH and Won. 

    2. Wook is condemned to death for attempted treason. 

    3. Soo steps in to beg for Wook's life - possible that Wook's mother asked her for help and tells her the sequence of Wook's progression into the dark side. Given her personality, she risks her life to help Wook one last time - out of guilt, out of her loyalty to her late cousin, out of whatever residual feeling she has left for 8th. She succeeds in getting his life saved but causes a permanent rift in her relationship with So. 

    4. Wook reflects on the sequence of events and figures out that his sister has betrayed him for GJ. By then, Jung will have gotten wind of Soo's decision to leave with him. 

    5. So gets the late King's edict to betroth Soo to Jung. He refuses to acknowledge the edict. Jung shows the hairpin as proof of Soo's decision. The sight of his token of love to Soo hurts GJ deeply. Baek Ah realises the significance of Soo's request and is devastated. 

    6. Wook loses all hope in his life and family. He confronts GJ for a final show down - tells him the truth about the poisoning incident, YH's involvement and why he couldn't save Soo. He pulls everyone into the blackhole with him - if he has to suffer, GJ and YH will have to suffer along. Soo becomes the collateral damage in this confrontation.

    7. GJ is devastated by Wook's confession and links her determination to save Wook as a sign of her love for Wook. He confronts Soo and she admits to her past relationship with Wook. GJ tells her that he doesn't want to see her anymore and she has the permission to leave the palace. 

    8. Soo leaves the palace and Songgak for good. Before she steps out of the gilded cage, she looks back with tears in her eyes and memories of the past flashing before her. Soo knows she will never see the palace again. 

    9. GJ looks from afar with tears streaming down his face. Memories of happier times flashing before him. WS is inconsolable but GJ soldiers on. He fulfils his promise to YH to give her an heir. 

    10. Time skip. Soo starts life anew with Jung in exile. A celebration of marriage is prohibited between them but Jung is happy to have Soo by his side and tries his best to make her happy. Soo misses So deeply and continues her writing every day. 

    11. GJ continues to consolidate his empire. He has spies in Jung's household. Jung is aware of it. GJ gets reports on Soo and Jung regularly. 

    12. Jung creates an illusion of intimacy between him and Soo for the spies to report back to GJ, mainly to rile GJ. GJ is devastated that Soo has finally moved on from him and orders that reports on Jung's household must not be presented to him from here on. 

    13. In the mean time, Soo's health continues to deteriorate. She knows her end is near. Asks Jung to help her to deliver a letter to GJ. She hopes to see him one last time. 

    14. Jung accedes her request. Notices her handwriting is too similar to GJ's. He puts her letter in another envelope with his handwriting on the envelope. 

    15. Letter reaches GJ. GJ doesn't read it. 

    16. Soo dolls herself up the best that she can. Deteriorates rapidly.

    17. GJ dreams of Soo. His right arm where he was once wounded aches terribly. 

    18. Soo gives up hope that So will come to her. She asks Jung to cremate her right away after she dies and throw her ashes into the ocean/lake on a windy day. She wants to forget all of them. She asks him to let go of the past and live on fruitfully. Soo doesn't leave any last words for her beloved. She dies in Jung's arms. Soo finally leaves Goryeo behind. We see a solar eclipse transporting Soo back to modern time the moment she passes on. 

    19. Jimong sees the solar eclipse and sighs for the loss of his kindred spirit Soo. He knows she is gone. 

    20. Words finally reach GJ and Baek Ah that Soo has passed away. He is shocked beyond words. He scrambles for the unread letter. He finds it and opens it with trembling hands. He sees Soo's handwriting for the first time. Reads the letter while the audience weeps with him. All inconsolable. Ambulance and medics should be on standby at LJG's fan meeting. 

    21. GJ and Baek Ah arrives at Jung's residence. Fight ensues. Baek Ah stops them, asks them to let Soo leave in peace after being sandwiched between all the brothers for the past 10 years. 

    22. So enters Soo's room to find her belongings - the hairpin, the arrow, stacks of her writing...So breaks down once again. He knows she left with him etched in her heart. There was no room for anyone else. He was her eternal love, just like she is to him. She is completely his person, always and forever. Need more back up on ambulance and medics - many are suffering from excessive sobbing and heart aches.  

    23. So takes her ashes back to Songgak. Jimong tries to explain to GJ about Soo/Ha Jin - offends GJ and is banished. So and Baek Ah throws her ashes into the ocean or Dongji lake as per her wishes. GJ mulls on Soo's odd ways and concludes that he will find her one way or the other. 

    24. GJ lives for another 20+ years, misses Soo everyday. GJ tries to leave clues for the future Soo/Ha Jin. Dies on a solar eclipse in 975. 

    25. Time skip 1000 years to modern day Seoul. Your guess is as good as mine. Let's hope for a good ending with all the loose ends tied up nicely. 

    Will we all be alright on Tuesday night? I am going to ask my hubby and kids to stay out of my way from 9pm. 

    Do you think the part which i highlighted is the part that was shown in the 6 minutes trailer where HS said :"it would be nice if we had known each other in a different time" while she was looking all sad and looked back at the palace. it's gonna be so sad :( but anyways i really hope that your prediction from 18 - 25 doesn't come true, but instead he still has the chance to meet HS for the last time and like spend time together or something. but somehow i have a feeling that your scenario is what the writer has opted for, although, korean dramas usually surprises the audience with a completely different scenario, but well let's see next week...

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  19. 1 hour ago, briseis said:

    A Dying Flower

     

    Wang So chose the lotus hairpin for HS because it reminded him of her, of her will to live, her innocence and perseverance to survive in his terrible world while remaining untainted by its evil. But in reality she is not a lotus, SHE IS A HUMAN brought to a world so hostile that she cannot survive in it for long, no matter how hard she tries; no matter how much she strives and fight that world will always defeat her. She DOES NOT BELONG THERE, SHE NEVER DID. This world in which even the air itself is toxic that each breath Soo takes is slowly killing her, but WANG SO IS DIFFERENT - HE WAS BORN IN THIS WORLD, IT’S HIS WORLD - the poison is literally and figuratively coursing through his veins which makes him virtually immune to it; it can hurt him, but not kill him, because it’s just another dosage that wil make him even stronger and more resililent (just like the poison incident). He is like a diamond - undestroyable and shining brightly, so hard it doesn’t even crack. Unlike her, he can strive there.  They are two star-crossed lovers coming from different worlds and his world is lethal for her. SHE TRULY IS HIS SUN, SUN THAT SHONE SO BRIGHTLY THAT IT’S BURNING OUT NOW.

     

    Soo’s presence, her mere existence in that world is a miracle. But miracles are rare and short-lived and just like the eclipse that brought them together, even this miracle must come to an end. The fact that HS’s managed to survive in it for so long already is a miracle alone, and it’s all thanks to Lady Oh and Wang So - without them she would have died long ago - he saved her so many times in so many ways.

    “I can’t go back anymore. And I can’t change the way things are now. Then, I want to live! I want to do whatever I can to survive and live. I want to live. - HS (EP01)

    “I am only in my twenties. 10 years is too severe. I will live a bit longer. With him… I want to be with him a little longer. - HS (EP17)

    The story is truly coming to its end, just like HS’s life in the Goryeo Era, and it’s coming full circle, as well. 10 years ago, HS wanted to survive in this Era for her own sake, to simply survive, but now she is praying to have more than 10 years with Wang So, BECAUSE SHE HAS SOMEONE TO LIFE FOR, she decides to fight once more and prolong her life because a long time ago HE BECAME HER SOLE REASON FOR LIVING.

     

    this sentence is so true i'm bawling :( that's why their love story is very epic. Tonghua is a genius, so much respect. Plus lee joon gi and IU's chemistry is so on point that this epic love story came to life. I hope this drama gets the recognition it deserves

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  20. 12 minutes ago, LyraYoo said:

    Weird, GJ and JG, this role is really destined for Lee Joon Gi :D

     

    I miss that Wang So ponytail.

    And Hae Soo taught him the promise gesture .  sweetdrop onion head

     

    i really LOVE wang so's gesture to protect HS so the big guy walking doesnt hit her (03.00 - 06.00)  the only scene besides the kiss on cheek scene that is very light to watch this episode. other scenes are just too much ;/

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  21. 6 minutes ago, Siracusa said:

    Re: Episode 19 preview where So becomes angry at learning about Wook and So's prior relationship. Did he really not know? I felt like it was an open secret back in the earlier episodes since So and Soo were NOT good at hiding their googly eyes at each other. Baek Ah, Lady Hae, Oh Sanggoon, everyone knew! So even made the comment, "She must have really enjoyed Wook's poem." 

    Is it more lazy writing just to move the plot along?

    Hi! in my personal opinion, its not lazy writing, i think of WS as that anti social guy that never date anyone and never even like anyone, never been loved by anyone. so he's just not good at perceiving things, but instead just sees things as literal, you know. heck no guy would want to try to steal a kiss from a girl that rejects him over and over again right? lolll but he just did it anyway because he literally does whats on his mind.i think this went on his mind :  " oh, yeah i like this girl, but she doesnt like me, oh well but i like her tho, lets kiss her" hahahha i hope it makes sense to you :)

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  22. 7 minutes ago, Para12012 said:

    HS is the one who first decided to leave WS. And when was HS beaten for WS? It's not about having two wives it's about only loving one woman and then learning that she had made a promise to marry someone else. She has been everything to him but he may feel like he was the "next best thing."

    HS didn't leave Wook because she fell out of love with him. Even in the moment after she found out he wanted to kill WS she asked him to leave with her. The only reason she gave up on him was because he decided to go for the throne instead. In addition, HS kept her relationship with Wook a secret. 

    HS hasn't shown WS how much she loves him to date except escaping the palace to meet him. He drank poison for her, fought for her when she was supposed to be hanged and ended up killing his brother because she did not trust him, yet his feelings remained unchanged. Also, as we can see, WS would have never married YH without HS permission, even if it meant his death. And how could she not understand him wanting to be the only person beside his mother for once. Despite what she did to him, he loved her and desired her acknowledgement. 

    Granted I always had a problem with this plot. Even in the C-Version. 

    oh! there you go, the answer to my question. and it make sense too. i think the feeling is tripled because of the existing rivarly between WS and WW, so he's more pissed when he learned that HS promised to marry wook first. nice nice. 

    but the part where he wanted to be the only person beside his mother is a bit possesive and not normal psychologically you know, he's basically like a toddler throwing a tantrum WHICH IS PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE given that he has never received his mother's love for once and never really get to know the real reason behind it. Love how the writer adds a back story to it, when HS and So were stargazing and So was telling her that he was jealous of jung. that's why his actions in this episode was not out of nowhere. its just hatred, lonely, and wanting to be loved that piled up his whole life, and then BAM he's the king and he can do whatever he wants = Gwangjong aka the new WangSo. 

    I hope this make sense to you guys

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  23. so basically the conclusion from ep 19 preview is, HS will go away from the palace to go with Jung, wook will probably be tortured, and WS will be very angry at her because she promised to marry Wook first ...?

    ps. i dont get why WS would be overtly angry about it.. i mean.. it was 7 years ago... was there no "ex boyfriend" term in goryeo or something..? 

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