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Just watched Son Yejin's Be with you (coping with CLOY). It is heart-warming, full of love, A tear-jerker. I cried at scenes that the actors are not even crying.

 

Why is it that almost all of SYJ's movies or dramas are not "completely happy endings???" It is always like that, sort of happy ending, has closure but not entirely happy . Just like CLOY. I love it and admire it, it is genius but my heart is not completely happy or at rest after seeing the ending.

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I have an interesting find. 
 

do you guys remember when the ahjummas brought DP and beer to Seri because she was dumped? To spare JH from the blame, Seri said that it wasnt JHs fault. That they are like Romeo and Juliet. However the ahjummas couldnt understand so she compared her relationship with JH to Gyeonwu and Jiknyeo. See what i found about the story:

 

On opposite sides of the universe lived Jiknyeo, a young woman who was very good at weaving clothes and Gyeonwu, a young handsome herder of cattle. Jiknyeo was the daughter of the heavenly King and she was so beautiful that she was loved by all of the angels in heaven. One day as Jiknyeo was weaving, she looked out of the window and caught a glimpse of Gyeonwu who was living across the Milky Way. The two soon fell in love and with the blessing of the King they were united to marry and live together. The young couple were so in love that Jiknyeo stopped weaving clothes and no longer would Gyeonwu herd the sheep and cows. This upset the King very much and he decided that they should live apart from each other, separated by the Milky Way.

Only once a year were the couple permitted to meet each other, on the seventh day of the seventh month. On July 7th each year, although Jiknyeo and Gyeonwu were excited to meet each other, they couldn’t cross the Milky Way. The crows and magpies of the universe saw the despair of the young couple and would come together to make a bridge so that they could meet and hug. After spending a short time together, the couple would realize that it would be another year before they could meet again and they would both cry. It is these tears which symbolizes the start of the monsoon season. (Ref: asiasociety.org)

 

sounds familiar right. Not only that, in folklore, Jiknyeo and Gyeonwu were believed to meet around july. Do you know when edelweiss blooms? JULY!!!!

 

so much parallel. These must be inspirations of the writer. 

 

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When Seri and JH were having chicken and beer in pyongyang, Seri leaned her head on JHs shoulder, she said it was heavy. JH said that shouldnt Seri be liking it that shes going back to SK soon. Then Seri answered, it is the liking part thats giving her a headache.

 

what does she meant by that?
 

Girls... they like giving quizzes to men through their answers

 

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I wrote before that the OTP fell inlove with each other the time Seri got lost in the market (i cant find my previous post  ). But after rewatching, i think it was when they paraglided together.

 

3 hours ago, TotoroSY said:

WOW! A real life cross-border romance, this one between a NK judo player (guy) and a Taiwanese judo player (gal).

They actually met once a year for 3 years  (in international judo competitions), and in the 4th year, the guy defected to South Korea, the gal came to look for him and they got married later, settling in SK! Have 3 boys together and 1 of them is the youtuber below, telling the story of his parents! AMAZING! The son decided to tell his parents story after watching CLOY.

 

Now the ending of SR and JH meeting once a year in Switzerland for 2 weeks looks plausible (and may have reference this story which was pretty famous), and we have hope by the 4th year they finally settle down in one place and get married, and have their twins and more!

This must be one of the references of writer nim.

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On 2/20/2020 at 6:50 AM, Samnamu-unnie said:

 

@Esteraela I think JH was not cheating on SD. He developed feelings for SR while he was helping her return to SK unintentionally and unknowingly. However, he finally acknowledged in himself that he likes SR when he was hospitalized at Sariwon (Ep 7). When SD visited him, he confessed and expressed to SD that they cannot continue the engagement because he has feelings for someone else. But SD wanted to stick to the wedding plans.
 

 

@Esteraela on second thoughts, i think JH did cheat SD technically. But he didnt intend to, it just happened that he has no feelings for SD and he fell for Seri.

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2 hours ago, Icy00Swirl said:

and not planning to see any Kdramas soon knowing none of it will even come close to CLOY... HB and SYJ's chemistry and acting set the bar too high.

 

@Icy00Swirl Same sentiments here. Writer Park Ji Eun, Director jung-hyo, SYJ and HB, and the supporting cast had set the bar high in kdrama landscape. The truth is I don't really watch series. But one day I saw the preview of CLoY, and I became interested (Seri crash landed on Jeong Hyeok and they became like statues haha! OTPs chemistry got me. Why they never been paired before or when they where younger?). Little did I know that CLOY will become an international hit. They deserve it. I wonder how BinJin and the cast and crew react as they themselves watch the fruit of their labor. Hands up!

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1 hour ago, newbie said:

Wow, this thread is still active!

There is one scene I would love to see in a director's cut version. In NK, after the clam-soju party with the guys, Se-ri woke up and wondered how she ended up in RJH's bed . I recall seeing  GIFs of the Captain carrying her to his bed and tucking her in(she was drunk).

Instead of showing us numerous "recall" scenes, they should have showed us more of this instead.

@newbie if you ever see that gif again, please share it to us.  thank you!

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15 minutes ago, Dana T said:

Luckily he was outside her hospital room when she played recording of her mom talking to her when she was unconscious so by that he was able to fill in the blanks pretty much I'm sure. Before that point I had wondered about that also. That's part of what made their story so special though...they just loved because they loved even without all the answers 

@Dana T Now that you mentioned that recording.. I like your take on it. Agree. Sometimes saying nothing at all says much more. 

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     I was musing again about CLOY earlier, Im impressed at how writer Park Ji Eun weaved her masterpiece skilfully and beautifully. No significant plot hole, storyline is seamless. Remember the time JH discovered that Seri's fridge is empty. That was a hilarious and comedic scene but she transformed it to a heart - melting and heart - warming scene when JH shopped for Seri and filled her pantry. through those scenes she was able to showcase their characters beautifully. That is just one, there are a myriad of ways writer nim amazed us.

     I just hope it was made clearer why Seri sought euthanasia in Switzerland. My hunch is.. With the kind of family life she had, a dysfunctional one, that could be the reason. She was unloved and longed to be loved. But I could be wrong, there may be another reason. Im a bit puzzled why that issue was not elaborated. Seri mentioned to JH her former suicide attempts but surprisingly, Seri didn't tell why nor did JH asked the reason why.

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2 hours ago, Kristen Son said:

 

i believe you see that same kite in NK in the next scene. 

@Kristen Son You mean there was also a kite flying scene in NK earlier? Thanks

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A question once again, comrades. Thank you in advance.

 

In Ep 10, there's a scene where Seri was waiting for the green light at the road intersection when she saw a kite and she stared at it quite long. Is there a symbolism there? Or the kite reminded her of her paragliding incident? What's your interpretation of this?
 

it's funny that i check updates in this forum more than i do with fb. Im ignoring fb nowadays. Haha!

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1 hour ago, babysiew said:

May I know with regards to the picture of the baby please? I cannot find it anywhere. The one baby with Seri's Dad and baby with the NIS agent. Pretty please, can someone share with me. 

 

Also I love Seri' eyes, doey eyes that speak volume of emotion. 

I remember I commented to that before but I cant find it anymore. I guess it was deleted.

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8 minutes ago, Esteraela said:

 

My take on this:

When having noodles with SD, the woman whom GSJ referred to was Seri.

 

He probably meant that after Seri called off the engagement, he found her attractive and was interested to know her as a woman rather than a revenge tool.

 

But beyond his interest in Seri, I think his bigger motive was still revenge. Despite his revengeful heart, he couldn't bear to let Second Brother kill Seri, which was why he proposed to her to help her escape NK. After all, the last time GSJ saw Seri was 7(?) years ago in the restaurant. It doesn't make sense for him to be interested in Seri for 7 years after that brief encounter. When GSJ said what he said to Dan, he probably meant he was interested in Seri (for awhile) after the restaurant incident, not the whole 7 years.

 

I believe that he also had motives to carry out his revenge AFTER the paper "marriage" with Seri. Even though it was only a paper marriage, GSJ is scheming enough to milk something out of it afterwards. We are talking about GSJ after all, who had plotted for years on how to take revenge. Which was why he looked so pissed that Seri rejected the marriage and went after RJH. Because that means his revenge plan is foiled again.

 

However, it was that incident where RJH appeared at GSJ's house to rescue Seri, that brought GSJ closer to Dan. Because afterwards, GSJ and Dan met up even more regularly to pour out their hearts, and started to become more interested in each other.

 

In the last 2 epi, GSJ said that Dan made him want to become a better man.

 

If what he said was after getting to know Dan better, it makes sense as to why GSJ helped Seri and RJH escape to SK, because GSJ is not evil/bad inherently, just blinded with revenge.

 

And somewhere along later in the episodes, GSJ also mentioned (it was implied) to Seo Dan that he helped them so that Seo Dan can see that what she and RJH is not love, because RJH was willing to risk his life for Seri. So Seo Dan should move on.

 

At this point, GSJ's motive of wanting to take revenge has shifted to a motive of wanting Seo Dan know how much better she deserves (and that's GSJ).

 

Also, around the time he helped Seri and RJH escape to SK, GSJ was quite certain that it is Seo Dan whom his heart is after and she is who he wants to be with. Then, it makes no sense for him to try to keep Seri and fulfil a paper marriage with her for "revenge". 

 

Thanks for posting the question because I didn't think deeply about it. But because you asked it, it made me rack through my brains and realise even more how the writer thought through about GSJ's character development as well!

 

 

Thank you for sharing this. I was mixed-up about GSJ but your explanation brought clarity and made me appreciate his character more. Couldn't agree more.

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Comrades I have some questions.
 

     In Ep 7, GSJ was having noodles with SD and there was a part he told SD that JH couldn't have romantic feelings because that is the downside of arranged marriage. He said something else then SD asked how did he know. He said he almost had an arranged marriage but it fell apart. Then his heart began to flutter and he couldn't stop thinking about her (he refered to SR right?).
 

     So GSJ had feelings for SR but was not very much in to her? Or he truly had budding feelings for SR after the engagement was called off but he also had other motives (reclaiming what his father lost in business)?

 

     Later on, he proposed marriage to SR as means to help her leave NK. I couldn't figure out what was truly in GSJ's heart and mind because after SR chased after JH, he eventually helped the two escape in order to bring SR to the outpost.

 

Thank you!

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6 hours ago, Esteraela said:

Question:

Some people are really unhappy with CLOY because Jeong Hyeok is cheating on Seo Dan.

How will you justify that JH was cheating on SD or not?

 

@Esteraela I think JH was not cheating on SD. He developed feelings for SR while he was helping her return to SK unintentionally and unknowingly. However, he finally acknowledged in himself that he likes SR when he was hospitalized at Sariwon (Ep 7). When SD visited him, he confessed and expressed to SD that they cannot continue the engagement because he has feelings for someone else. But SD wanted to stick to the wedding plans.
 

On 2/14/2020 at 5:25 PM, Samnamu-unnie said:

8. However, i think it was during the Sariwon hospital scene that they finally acknowledged in themselves their love for each other. It was at that time when they could not help but show and admit even to those around them what they feel (Jeong hyeok admitted that he cant continue the engagement with Seo Dan).

 

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5 hours ago, INeedAFan said:

Anyway, does anyone know if any HB and SYJ dramas or movies have wedding scenes? I am going to make my own FMV with IU’s OST . I am still upset they didn’t have a proper wedding .

@INeedAFan made some digging, seems SYJ has wedding scene in her 2003 series "Shark" and HB in "Hyde, Jekyll and Me. Will wait for your fanvid. 

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3 hours ago, strongtower said:

But I believe when the audience (for e.g. Me) sympathizes to a character that's when the actor really displayed great acting skills.

i felt like this for Seri as well many times. Most especially at the scene where she was running after Jeong-Hyeok during the exchange of prisoners. I could feel the desperation like I was in her shoes. 

 

i also felt sympathetic to Jeong-hyeok during the scene where Seri was captured and he heard a gunshot after Seri said to him saranghaeyo. JH didnt say anything, his tears just flowed with a blank expression in tune with the ost pictures of my heart. I felt for him, like his world was crashing and he was dead worried.

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On 2/15/2020 at 10:23 AM, Samnamu-unnie said:

Hi comrades.

I intentionally didn't finish ep 14. I stopped watching it after Sang-ah reported RJH to the NIS officer. For the reason that I'd rather wait for ep 15 and 16 and watch them continuously from where I left off. I will resume watching when the last 2 episodes are out. I am hoping that all the loose ends will be tied as this series comes to a conclusion. CLOY is indeed well-written, superbly directed. Leads and supporting roles were awesome. If there is one thing I love the most about this series - that is how love is portrayed. Deep, sacrificial and unconditional. We will see more of it as it unfolds in the remaining episodes. Let's get ready with a roller-coaster of emotions, sad and riveting scenes and cliffhangers and of course an awesome happy ending.

 

Sorry for this long post! 

 

***Spoilers ahead for those who havent finished CLOY.

 

     So I finished watching CLOY last Mon. I couldn't post my thoughts right away. Maybe because it made me thinking though the show is over.

 

     I've never been so stressed out while watching a series until CLOY haha! It was almost all climactic events in the entire episode 15 and 16 if not to the lovable ducklings and funny NIS agents haha! I've never been so wrecked in watching OTPs until RJH and YSR. I don't normally cry while watching but HB and SYJ scenes really nailed it. Their scenes were like blow after blow to me I was ready to complain why are you guys doing this to me? Haha! I guess like many of you guys here, I just have to express myself, I can't stay silent heehee.

 

     RJH was just like a child in distraught after hearing a dying person's last words. So i understand why RJH pointed the gun to his temple. It is because of all the pressure. he was thinking of saving the day by dying. But those words of CCG were lies. It was funny that he called YSR ill words everytime and wanted RJH to join him in his death, wait what are you really CCG ? A third party or something haha! Seriously, instead of repenting he rather widen the damage to his last breath. Very good performance of Oh Man-seok as RJH's archenemy. 

 

     I was hoping for a reconciliation scene between YSR and her stepmom but maybe writer nim deemed it not necessary. I just wanted to hear what seri has to say to her stepmom. Appreciate that stepmom stayed by her side just as RJH hoped when he and mom in law (heehee) talked in a Cafe. Wait, I waited for the business card put in good use. He didn't call her, anyway, I loved that stepmom was rooting for RJH the whole time. 

 

     SYJ looked really sick as YSR that's why her dramatic scenes were so heartbreaking. Oh the noble idiocy part.. Well, RJH was protecting everyone. I understand that. He wanted to take all the consequences. But why did he have to say that seeing YSR bothers him more than seeing his own life fall apart. That was like a dagger thrust to YSR's heart. But the agony, oh boy of RJH after that. I was tearing inside seeing RJH's eyelids turn red and cry.

 

   Now about GSJ's death. I actually cried upon his scene at RJH's house with SD bidding his goodbye. Just the realization of GSJ leaving, when it dawned to SD, that was a heartbreaking scene too. I was hoping GSJ would start anew and become a better man like he hoped. But is it because there's not much time to develop his story with SD he got killed real quick. I was hoping for a reunion with SD abroad too. Besides, the kidnappers need GSJ alive because Se Hyeong and Sang ah needed him to bring down Seri. I just thought his part in the story was not yet developed and abruptly cut off. So it's not a Star-crossed love story for RiRi after all but for GSJ and SD. They didn't end up together. BTW, the begging-and-singing-children-in-the-market scene cuts to the heart.

 

     The NIS rookie was so funny and cute. He seemed to admire RJH. Trying to find RJH's wrongdoing they found his beautiful character instead. The NIS rookie was very "by the book", he even had RJH'S behavior of being in love  analyzed. Hahaha! That was as clear as broad daylight.

 

     I was glad chief Kim (NIS) became a shipper of RiRi couple haha! I was relieved he showed CCG's latest received email. It brought clarity to RJH. His father won't abandon him and he has a plan. Isn't it intriguing that RJH and his father almost had synonymous lying about Seri (persuading her to go to NK). If RJH didn't see that email, he might have agreed to be executed in the woods in exchange for his family's welfare and his men's lives. Because he was convinced of CCG's lies that his return to NK will have grave consequences to the people he loves whether in NK or SK. Military Director wanted to execute them right away because he knew that if they stand on trial he will be found out (conspiring with CCG/ treason). Dir. Ri knew military director is up to something and it was confirmed at a quick phone call scene. I loved how despite the absence of emotions, Dir. Ri's love for his son just exuded effortlessly. RJH'S scenes with his parents are one of the most tear jerker for me. When Dir. Ri suddenly showed up in the woods and gunned down the military director, a tear flowed in RJH's eyes. All his doubts about his father were washed away by his father's reckless love for him. Obviously, Dir. Ri liked Seri. Haha. He even asked about her. But I think he absolutely understand why RJH was like that to Seri because he himself was amused at her. I loved his dialogues with Seri before. Too cool and hilarious!

 

     The exchange prisoners scene, Seri ran and cried hysterically that your heart will really go out for her. Son really justified her role. And HB, I didn't know he is that good in drama. CLOY must be his most shining moment in a Kdrama. When RJH answered Seri to wait and pray desperately because that is how one carries on. I remembered a scene where RJH, Seri and the ducklings were at an abandoned house in the outpost (demilitarized zone) before Seri cross border to SK. They talked about the mother who waited for his son to come back after the war. RJH said that waiting is the way for one to survive and live another day because of hope. Was it a foreshadowing also? If i will select a second title for this series it would be Hello, Love, Goodbye. Haha! So much goodbyes. But of course CLOY is still most suitable. She crash landed on him at the start and at the end of the story! Genius!

 

     Sang-ah was pure evil but I detest Se-hyeong even more. No backbone whatsoever. Never taking responsibility and would always pass the buck to others. He looked respectable in the outside but totally rotten to the core. What a heartbreak he is to his parents. I was waiting for the patriarch to tear up somehow because of Seri or Se hyeong but he never did. He stayed collect the whole time. If there's one good thing I saw in Seri's hospitalization that is the healing and change that started in her family. Her stepmom finally responded to Seri's unrequited love for her. Her family (except the evil couple) were genuinely concerned about her ailing health. Her family supported her in the end like how normal families would do.

 

     The scheduled text messages of RJH for a year was so sweet of him. A well-thought and well-meant gesture. He was more concerned of how Seri will adjust due to his absence. He loved her to bits. The walling moment of Seri at the kitchen was both heartbreaking and heart-warming. I appreciate that this series didn't have to resort to erotic scenes in order to show how much the two loved each other. The sacrificial things they did, how they cared for each other showed the profound and pure love they share.

 

     I applaud how writer nim woven the end. It is the best route I think. YSR and JH met again in a neutral ground. Though I was a bit dissatisfied that RJH didn't directly answered YSR'S questions on how he got to Switzerland. But I am happy that he got discharged from the army and recoursed to his dream of being a world renowned pianist. Without any details, writer nim was able to make us audience speculate that RJH'S parents have something to do about it. Remember the conversation between SD's mom and RJH'S mom. RJH's mom couldn't agree more to what SD's mom said, they only live once. We never saw it but we know that the turning point was there - RJH didn't necessarily have to follow his father's footsteps.
 

     In the end it is a happy LDR ending. I agree that they will have limited time together. They can't really be "together". But it was a decision that they resolved to stick to in order to hang on. Maybe there are indeed deleted scenes because of political reasons like the preggy picture of YSR with RJH. It is somewhat open ended. The writer lets us assume what happened next. Im actually assuming that crazy rich Seri bought the swiss house, that it is the OTP's house. They looked settled in, there are picture frames in the house with their moments together. I researched if foreigners can buy properties in Switzerland, for some exceptions apparently yes. Im even assuming that they are secretly married in Switzerland. Maybe because of political reasons the story couldn't delve further to those details. Besides, the finale+epilogue alone ran for 2 hours. If more scenes were added, i am not sure if that would be feasible. I was also expecting to see the twins but maybe those twins we saw in IG are real-life twins of someone in the cast or crew of CLOY. Maybe the kids of Chief Kim in real life. Heehee. CLOY, what have you done to us!

    

     So there it is, my very long reaction to CLOY. I doubt that I'll be watching a kdrama again unless its the same OTP (i doubt they will be paired again any sooner). Hyun Bin and Son yejin were just too good together. Perfect pairing! They justified their roles so much. OST never fails to give the "feels". The supporting cast are awesome. So much love exuded from the scenes with the ducklings and Ahjummas. They're unforgettable, funny, witty and ridiculously adorable. I loved how the ahjummas stood up for MBs wife, how the ducklings are ready to cover and defend each other, how SDs mom loved her dearly etc. The story was well crafted, seamlessly woven together that it is undeniably one of the best. Personally, it is the best for me. This series even placed a burden in me for NK, a hope that this country will be reformed, that good things will happen to this country and that it will open up. 

I will definitely have saudade for CLOY. 

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I just thought it would add more heartache to us  fans if this scene showed the couple rings as our OTP let go each other's hand.

 

 

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I just happened to stumble upon the epilogue at episode 5. There is a part where Seri and Cha Sang woo (an actor or idol singer?) broke up and Sang woo said he hopes Seri meets someone whom she has to wait endlessly. Is that a curse or something? Or a foreshadowing? Because in the end, Seri had to repetitively wait for Jeong Hyeok (though it is mutual, Hyeoky also has to wait every year to see the person he longs for).

This series is unbelievably woven seamlessly.

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Director Ri Chung-ryeol (Ri Jeong-hyeok's father) is the master of the game!  He was so cunning and wise. Indeed, grey hair speaks and acts wisdom. 

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“Fortune and misfortune are like twisted ropes, so they come by turns. Everything will be fine soon.”

- Ri Jeong Hyeok

 

Hang in there comrades! I believe Captain's words. All will be well.

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41 minutes ago, Tita Ganda ❤️ said:

This is what I think, Man Bok’s family was taken as per the instruction of RJH’s father (same as how YSR was taken for safety).

 

NIS will settle all these and make it all legal so that there won’t be any problems in the future. Unfortunately our OTP wouldn’t know what’s happening at the moment, their emotions are too raw with everything that’s been happening. But Papa Ri will have everything taken cared of.

 

This is my wishful thinking ❤️

I also hope that Director Ri is the one behind the capture of Man Bok's family.

 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about it.

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Hi comrades.

I intentionally didn't finish ep 14. I stopped watching it after Sang-ah reported RJH to the NIS officer. For the reason that I'd rather wait for ep 15 and 16 and watch them continuously from where I left off. I will resume watching when the last 2 episodes are out. I am hoping that all the loose ends will be tied as this series comes to a conclusion. CLOY is indeed well-written, superbly directed. Leads and supporting roles were awesome. If there is one thing I love the most about this series - that is how love is portrayed. Deep, sacrificial and unconditional. We will see more of it as it unfolds in the remaining episodes. Let's get ready with a roller-coaster of emotions, sad and riveting scenes and cliffhangers and of course an awesome happy ending.