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10 hours ago, kyoko22 said:

JK and YEH used to be dating. But then again, this is nothing new. JK's personal fan already mentioned about this here around 2019. It was an open secret among papitus (JK's fan club) that JK dated YEH then. I don't remember the detail but JK did appeared on YEH's work (music video I think) and YEH did something for JK (I don't remember what is it) when JK was in military.

Hi,

 

Rumor has it that YEH attended KJK's brother's wedding on behalf when KJK was in military (Korean law is military personnel are not allowed to attend to civilian life during service). It was said that she sat at the main table with KJK mother. For the non-Asians, in many Asian cultures, the main table at wedding receptions is reserved for family members only.

 

I used the word rumor because there are no confessions/denial + there are no photo proof. But many fans take this as real and some claimed to have seen her at the actual wedding.

This coupled with them both appearing in each other's MV or YEH attending KJK concert way back (there were only 2 female celebs who attended that concert; one of them is YEH).

 

RECENT TRENDING

For those who is curious about the recent trending (not in korea but in other countries, especially China), it came about because of YEH's youtube. She uploaded a youtube showing her speaking to some junior idols (i think) where she revealed that she once gave her ex-bf a present of a diary where she wrote down by hand their messages correspondences. She mentioned that the ex-bf was a good guy who realised that in the latter part of the relationship, his messages got shorter & shorter and was very apologetic.

Fortunately/Unfortunately, depends on your stand, this happens to corroborate with KJK's reveal in his first episode in MUD - he kept the gift of a book where his ex-gf gave which is handwritten with their messages. He also commented back then his messages got shorter in the latter parts. So many fans thought this match-up is a proof of them dating.

 

YEH has taken down the video within 24H of publishing, but i think many already caught it.  She has posted a message about revamping her channel. 

 

COMPARISON WITH OTHER CP

I understand your concerns about talking about other CPs - you are right, proving other CP false does not make one's CP true. But it is hard since CP lovelines will always be in comparison, especially KJK has quite a few which he displayed great chemistry in. I think we can only do our best to try not to talk about other CPs.

For example, in China recently, the fandom sort of 'openly-declare-war' on SJH fandom because SJH sort of implied in JSJ's show that she hates loveline and KJK is the initiator. She said "I told KJK oppa, let's not do this" but then as all know, she went ahead to start a loveline in RM at every instance or her company will use KJK name in their news article even though it had nothing to do with KJK.

SJH is promoting beauty product? The company must use news title like "the beauty that struck KJK awed" etc. when KJK has never stated anything or got involved.

 

Also adding to the problem was some bad fans in her fandom who started boasting & dissing KJK; that SJH was doing loveline despite 'hating' it to help KJK. So the KJK fandom got fed up and just 'declare-war' and dissed back SJH. It got worse when now you have YEH for comparison - she has never said bad stuff about KJK & see how she handled the video incident. Kudos to her.

 

But in the end, as long as fans do not harrass/bully celebs, happy shipping then. 

 

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1 hour ago, Lulu lolly said:

 

Thank you !!! I did not know that. I know more about JSM than i know about KJK to be honest so very informative : ) However, when HH responded that 'it wasn't that long ago' it sounded like KJK started referring to a different relationship to that one? Or was he hinting to HH not to give it away because HH was saying "he was worried in the car...(before/during RM filming)"  before KJK cut him off talking about the relationship from a long time ago (which could be Chae Rina like you said, because I don't think she's ever guested on RM -- correct me if I'm wrong?)

 

So when they talk about KJK dating a guest - we still don't know who it is but you're saying the one who he said got married in the Jeju clip is Chae Rina. So there are two different references there, I see. 

 

I guess the main point I was trying to make is that JSM is not the guest they are referring to (when they asked have you ever dated a guest?), and that I believe KJK really really does like JSM in some way.

Hi,

 

Alternative point of view. No right or wrong, just different.

 

The dating a guest in Big Picture? For me is very vague and not much context to work with, so there are many possibilities.

 

The dating a guest in RM Blackpink episode? For me, my personal view is a RM guest. (or for shippers of the 2 RM ladies: guests-turned-emcees). Even though within KJK fans community, there are debates about whether this question covers all the variety shows YJS/KJK worked on; for me, i feel that since this is RM, YJS is focusing on RM only. So i think YJS meant KJK dated a guest of RM before.

 

Of course, i may be wrong, but just a different view. Chae Rina confirmed never appear on RM. The only KJK show she guested on was ICSYV, and any KJK fan will tell you that KJK was visibly uncomfortable that episode - it seems like he does not want to interact with her, but as an emcee dealing with a guest, you cannot be too 'nasty' to the guest....that kind of dilemma. (BTW, MUD is not counted, as she only appeared in LSM segments, never KJK segments).

 

As for the guest he mentioned in RM Jeju episode, for me, i will probably exclude Chae Rina. She betrayed their relationship, and as seen in ICSYV, he is uncomfortable with her so i doubt he will 'miss' her. My guess is the true love who was with him for 7 years but got away because he dragged too long? Not sure who that is.....though there were interesting guesses that got me intrigued when i read other fans' guesses.

 

Thanks. 

 

 

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On 10/12/2021 at 10:53 PM, Lulu lolly said:

Oooh, I just realized that the questions they were asked in this episode were from fans. According to SBS RM Instagram page, they put up a post asking for fans to ask specific questions that they know the members will never answer or admit to (though I suspect a particular fandom used this opportunity well seeing the direction certain questions led to but I'll move on lol). Or the PD was really sneaky and instead of using questions fans sent, he put his own questions in there lol ~

 

Interestingly, of course the PD / writers will select from the list of questions people sent them for their own amusement, but now I am curious as to which questions would have come to JSM if she was present that day? Potentially might have end up being slightly cheesy ones lol.

Hi,

 

Depends I guess, but for me, i think PD sneaked in their own questions. Given that SBS will still focus on Korean fans' inputs, some of the questions are not what you will expect a Korean fan to ask. Like whether KJK finds SJH cute; whether YSC thinks YJS is not a good emcee, whether YSC thinks JSJ has anything to emulate as a role model etc. All these questions are nuances which I feel K-audience will not raise. 

 

It is possible it could be international fans, but SBS usually focus on the K-audience inputs for such raising questions. So i do think PD sneaked in their questions make it look like fan questions but it is to further their agenda for the show. Of course, i could be wrong. 

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10 hours ago, kyoko22 said:

@Chasing Felicity Whatever the reason is, it's definitely not because of she is busy with drama promotion or drama filming. Because RM filming is her fix schedule. Her other activities should accomodate this. Maybe she had her vaccine shot on that day. If so, there is no way for her to reschedule the vaccine shot appointment.

Hi,

 

I read from cfandom for JSM that she probably missed due to drama filming. They are saying that that part is a 'follow-up' filming the next day after routine RM filming, so it could be possible.

 

Thanks.

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13 hours ago, Myluv said:

Hi! This will be the first time that I'll say something

It bothers me a lot. I remember reading somewhere (I cannot remember where and until now I am searching for it) that JK said that he prefers dating in private. That's why if he had dated a celebrity/idol, the media will never know until they break up. The thing is why did suddenly SM and JK became aloof to each other on cam? I mean they have mentioned they are close and even the members acknowledge the fact that they are close. But why do they need to hide their interaction?  Why didn't SM appear in the JK's vlog? Because of toxic fans? But I have observed that it's getting better now? Or am I wrong?

Another thing, we all know SM's role in RM is a girl who falls in love easily with male guests. Also in Sixth Sense. But lately, I have noticed she sticks more with YJS and Sang Yeob (in Sixth Sense) and with RM members (especially JH in Running Man) when there's a male guest. Where's the playful girl all of a sudden?

Also, why did SJH unexpectedly decided to pursue the SpartAce loveline? Are they hiding something? Because it's suspicious how she suddenly agreed, the fact that the members are pushing the loveline for years and years.

I still have a lot of observation haha. And I am watching RM episodes again to observe. I don't know why I am so invested in this couple.

Hi welcome,

 

KJK

JK has confirmed in Korean interviews that even if he is dating, he will say he is not dating. He will only announce his marriage/announce his relationship when marriage is confirmed. So korean audience already knows that he will date in secret and not announce. This is perhaps why many oldie fans like me does not savor lovelines pushed on shows - we know it is fake/for-show-only. KJK takes such huge efforts to hide his relationship, as his close friends/brothers, do you think like YJS or HH will spill his real gf on screen? I very much doubt that.

Most fans speculate that this has to do with his 'taking care of the female party' - he perhaps does not find it nice for the female's reputation if they dated but did not end up together. I think this reason makes sense - especially female celeb will not want to be known as KJK's ex when they are trying to move onto a new relationshop.

 

Currently, even if they break up, nobody knows or announce as well. So far, only Chae Rina leaked the info on her side. Unfortunately, we know how things turned out that everyone knew she cheated on him with his friend. This is also why KJK is very adamant about not starting relationships with any lady who have a history with his close friend(s). Also, if you see the RooRa episode of ICSYV, you can find that KJK is very uncomfortable during filming & still avoid interaction with her.  

 

SM

Her brother had recently a couple of months back, revealed he is still receiving the nasty spam messages from crazy fans (mostly you know whose fans). This is the 2nd time he revealed, so the stress should be tremendous.

 

The good news for JSM is that in korean scene, she has been receiving positive reviews and media attention - for her variety sense (how she is one of YJS's favorite) and she had landed quite a few acting projects. So overall her reputation is on the upward trend; gaining popularity and positive reputation.

 

As for the new persona, many are suspecting she is dating. As for who is the guy, so far no one spilled anything. Strange though no news from korea side - given how in RM her spilled beans seems to suggest she is not that good at hiding her dating (non-celeb guy wears mask, but she is a celeb but show her face) 

 

RM LOVELINE

I find this rather obvious - RM cast really loves RM show, so they are feeling the pressure of LKS leaving & ratings dropping. So they need to jack up attention and interest in the show to keep it going. E.g. KJK dislikes lovelines, but he stills accepts and do it because of the show; YJS is really upping his mischievous side etc. You can see most of the cast really upping their gears to try to fill in the void left by LKS.

 

But i will still stick to my old beliefs that official lovelines pushed in k-variety shows will not come through. There could be complications, but so far, mostly does not really bear fruit. 

 

The RM crew needs to step up their game and do not take those crazy shippers' comments as the main feelings of the majority audience. Only they think loveline is good for the show, the majority of audience does not really. It appears very unnatural if a show has to push the 'love'; it should come naturally. And there are way more chemistry than just romantic chemistry.

 

Use episode 570 as an example: Kookmin's scene (one of the better scenes in the episode) is not a romantic CP, but rather Kookie police giving 'poor victim' Somin no chance in the interrogation scene. That scene is really really good, and it does not push unnatural romance right? 

 

Thanks & sorry for the long reply.

 

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On 6/19/2021 at 1:41 AM, anthonio07012 said:

Again, like I said; Kook-Min is the only "loveline" that was not created by SBS and RM show. It's natural because it was So-Min (with KJK) who ignite the name in 2018, although the name was created by PD during their trip to YSC house.

When So-Min joined the family, her role is to support YJS and Kwangsoo, while YSC was supposed to fill in KG spot. That's why on her first day, YJS and KJK immediately addressing her as "Female version of Kwangsoo", but somehow, So-Min does better with her role. That's why we have Kwang-Min Couple in 2017 / 2018, but Kook-Min slowly developing and become a thing in 2018. 
 

See how slowly Kook-Min become closer, again, RM push Min-Chan as new loveline, for no reason at all, and thanks to Se-Chan, some people like us aware something is happening with Kook-Min as KJK suddenly become soft, and turned into "Kookie" whenever he with So-Min, including showing his bias in favor for So-Min. So-Min never force KJK, she supporting him and bring out the best of him.

I don't remember what episode, but I do remember when KJK told Haha and YJS to stop tease Min-Chan as he can see So-Min was tired, dealing with that fake loveline with Se-Chan. Even Se-Chan said that he had to ignore So-Min for couple of days to shut down the rumors between them because his family start to think that Min-Chan is a real thing.

There's a few sign of So-Min "reveal" Kook-Min status.

1. Kook-Min plays BF and GF and debate about their relationship.  So-Min asked her place in KJK's GF list and all of sudden, JK told her that he barely knew her in person, so there's no love yet between them. Watch the members reaction as YJS and Suk Jin were paused for a few minutes, like they just saw a real life BF and GF arguing.

2. Se-Chan looks nervous every time So-Min were forced to do the fake loveline and the first person he look is JK. 

3. Haha immediately told So-Min to cool off when JK choose friend over GF quiz. When JK said that he choose friendship, So-Min immediately show her frustration and Haha told her; "This is the problem. This is not about 'that'. Haha know how close Kook-Min in real life. 
 

4. And of course, Jae-Suk and Suk-Jin also know about Kook-Min. Suk-Jin become So-Min's father figure maybe to protect Kook-Min if any male guest show their interested in her, or if So-Min were forced to do a fake loveline with Se-Chan. Remember how JK was happy when Jae-Suk challenge So-Min's request to partner with one of the male guest, and force Se-Chan to tag with So-Min when two male guest want to partner with her?

For me, Kook-Min is a real thing and that's why I wish RM allow Kook-Min to lead the show like they did in 2019/2020, because I'm confident that Kook-Min know how to low key their relationship and the members cover up for them, and of course, Korean fans love Kook-Min chemistry. 

 

Hi anthonio07012, 

 

I can see where you are coming from. But just to update that RM members are professional and already that LKS's departure is a huge hole to fill in. So everyone is doing their best to chip in for the show. e.g. KJK and SJH already accepting their in-show CP skits on their closeness, or HH and JSJ's new "married cross". I am pretty quite sure that this is to keep the respective portion of audience interested in the show. RM needs the viewership rating.

 

Unfortunately, like you said, the ratings for RM is not doing well. So it is a tough phase for RM. I believe they should not do any lovelines at all and explore on something else. Just let the chemistry between the members stand out naturally. Currently, my most fav CP, YJS-KJK has been on a roll for 2021, so hope they continue to shine.

 

Meanwhile, continue to enjoy and support the show and the members. I am still skeptical that JSM is KJK's other half, but we all can choose what we want to see or believe in, so i think it is alright for some to believe they are dating and some to believe they are not. As long as we support them, enjoy their chemistry, and not attack/cyber-bully any of them if it turns out otherwise.

 

Thanks. 

 

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19 hours ago, Lulu lolly said:

I slightly disagree when you said for them to stop being shipped they need to win. Slightly because I think it's more down to the production team and members.

 

I believe the KS SM ship was highlighted in the first SBS award ceremony RM attended after getting new members. Their ship won the award (even though they were not being forced like chanmin was). Then somehow at the second award ceremony they were still being talked about. The MCs teased the KS SM ship about it and they were made to seem real (hence KS's dating announcement the following week or so).

 

Basically once you win the best couple award and you are on RM, it's going to keep coming back.

 

Notice the MC ship and KJK HJY ship kept coming up even after their wins.

 

My thing is that, since ysc and sm did not win as best couple, they should drop the act and shine as individuals and/ or friends for the sake of their chemistry. It's better natural than forced and I know ysc does take good care of Somin off screen and sometimes on screen.

 

I pray the members take a hint about chanmin otherwise I sense next year they may really try to push for their win.

 

KJK and SM on the other hand would have been strong contenders because their relationship transformed the most on the show and it wasn't forced either. However, this is just me but, I feel RM production team nipped kookmin in the bud early on. They did not want them to be seen romantically. On the other hand Ive always wondered about that kookmin compilation - super chemistry? If you don't want to ship them on the show why make such a romantic compilation in the first place? Very interesting...lol

Hi

 

Yes, thanks for highlighting. You are right that it will keep cropping up if they win Best CP. I meant that for SBS to stop pushing, usually they will stop if the CP wins the award, though it will also meant that audience will keep bringing them up since the chemistry will be there when a CP wins Best CP award.

 

But it seems from E534 that RM seems to be stepping back on pushing Chanmin so hopefully they can have the space to explore better dynamics between themselves + with other members.

 

Kookmin will not be highly recommended for Best CP if it is based on romantic CP but they are very good as sibling CP. While not there yet in reel life (YJS-LHR or YJS-Jessie), Kookmin actually has quite good chemistry to move towards 'nation's siblings' but i am not sure if they want to bring their closeness into reel-life spotlight.

 

1 hour ago, TaengTaengoo said:

In regard to the recent Jong Kook x Jessi loveline I'll say this as a KJK fan who ships him with anything that moves but JSM moe.

 

Im just gonna be very blunt when I say this but there's very little chance of them actually dating. If you've seen the actual scenes people use to justify the ships I'm going to sound very crass but Jessi says straight up she wont ever be dating him and it sounds more like she'd be DTF (if you know what that means) she just says it to fit korean broadcasting terms. Since it seems to be more just them saying their physical characteristics of each other are nice, with a clear line on romance/marriage.

 

So considering the loveline boils down to just some physical attraction/acknowledgement the other is swanky i truly doubt its cause for fear or whatever. 

 

Hi,

 

They are good friends with a common LA circle of friends. So they are close...but yes, no romantic feelings involved on both side. They will go along and say nice stuff about each other, because they are soft-hearted and does not want to 'hurt' the other person so they are just being polite. But they are more of buddies. 

 

KJK fans are always grateful to Jessi for organising a 2nd birthday party in LA in 2017 to cheer KJK up because she knew he was still hurt from the firing controversy. I think that was also when KJK's mum met Jessi in LA along with the LA gang + Haha + Hwan Jin (the baseball guest for E534). 

 

Thanks. 

 

On a side note: the recent 2 episodes had been great.....E533 and E534, so do watch the episodes. My fav CP is fantastic in E534...

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8 hours ago, HappyVirusRM said:

Speaking about Somin x Sechan, this is the second time they lose on the couple awards. When I was watching the show, I’m 98% percent sure Sechan talked about Somin winning that same award with Kwangsoo. And for a split second, I thought to myself, “hmmm, maybe that’s why Chanmin can’t win the award.” Then I remember it’s SBS we’re talking about  SBS doesn’t care what people say about the members, so it’s obvious that’s not what stopping them. 
 

So I continued thinking about it, and I honestly I don’t have a clue on why Chanmin didn’t win the award hahaha SBS even did a huge Chanmin compilation which garnered a lot of views. 
 

I’ll be truthful and say that in the back of my heart, I didn’t want them to win :/ I would’ve obviously been happy for them if they did win, but, my fear was that a win would make RM push the loveline even stronger.
So now I wonder, will RM stop the loveline? 

Hi,

 

Yes, Sechan mentioned the 2017 CP award for Somin & Kwangsoo. But I think a celeb can still get 2 CP awards with different people, although not easy since the chemistry needed is very high. Actually, i think Sechan's words help to serve a reminder that on-screen CP is for the show/reel life and should not be taken as the gospel truth for real life (maybe he and Somin really wants to maintain as friends, not as romantic partners which others keep pushing?)

 

However, for many fans who watch both MUD and RM, it is rather clear cut that Won Hee will win the CP award - their chemistry really outscored Chanmin CP. So congratulations to them coz I really enjoyed his CP performances in MUD. 

 

Unfortunately, unless Somin or Sechan have a significant other or other CP lines in other shows, I think RM will still continue to push Chanmin. Not sure why, but Korean shows seems to have a pre-conceived notion that their shows must have a CP couple (can be non-romantic), so RM seems to be left with Chanmin. Actually, winning a CP award will mean that RM will stop pushing the loveline - the shows will need to look for fresh lovelines to push. Hence, the best way for Chanmin to stop is to actually win Best CP award.

 

Hence, I hope the pressure does not get to them - it is not easy to achieve the level of chemistry and teamwork needed for winning the CP award. If you look at MUD, they are not the champion SBS show for nothing - 3 consecutive wins for Best CP award (2018 KJK-HJY / 2019 LSM-TJH / 2020 IWH-JSY)   And fans who watched MUD will know the level of chemistry these 3 CP displayed are really no joke, so i hope RM will strike a balance when pushing Chanmin and not over-push to the point whereby it drowned out their other personas and chemistry with other RM members.

 

Meanwhile, congratulations to KJK and HH!!!  They really deserved the awards, in fact, many had said that it really came so late for them.. All the best for RM and hope they continue improving and getting better. 

 

P.S. Really loved it that YJS announced and gave to KJK. Awww my YJS-KJK CP...... and great that KJK won the award. Perhaps now left is for him to get married (hopefully next year).

 

Thanks very much.

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8 hours ago, elliee sky said:

 

What is the point that MUD doesnt filming in his apartment? 

Hi,

 

Do you mean 'no point if not filming in his apartment' or do you mean 'why don't they film in his apartment'? 

 

If the former, there isn't any fixed rules for MUD so they are all exploring new 'stuff' for the audience. I recall seeing YJS mentioning in an interview that variety shows are reaching a difficult plateau whereby if they do not re-invent themselves, the variety show landscape will just go downhill. So the variety celebs have to constantly come up with new stuff.

 

If the latter, audience will not know though fans noticed that some of the oldies ducklings have been reducing their screen times for the new ducklings to establish themselves in the show. 

 

The show has been trying its best to re-invent itself in order to maintain its grasp on the audience. There's a reason why it is the SBS variety show with highest TV audience rating - even though KBS brought in its heavy hitter (TROS) to fight it out, they can still maintain their dominance at the same timeslot. 

 

Since i followed it from Ep 1 all the way, I've noticed that from its original 'each duckling film their own funny anecdotes', it has been a huge change along the way:

• adding in segments on other ducklings
• adding in female duckling(s)
• collaboration between the ducklings
• addition of duckling who is a parent

The current trend is rather obvious that the collaborations (ducklings meet as a group or join each other's segment) has been raking in high ratings for them, so it is a formula they will likely rely on.

 

Plus i feel that the oldies (KJK/KHC/LSM) seems to be 'grooming' the newbies so it is possible that some oldies may leave the show soon. I saw comments amongst fandom that many are speculating on the huge guy (sorry, cannot recall his name) who is a Sandara Park fan and Jessi looks like 'potential ducklings' while in cfandom, many speculated that KJK/HJY/BJN are likely candidates to leave/graduate from the show.

 

Of course, KJK fans hope that it is he who will leave; to get married. 

 

Thanks.

 

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Hi,

 

20 hours ago, Grumple Lee said:

I agree. The way other member talked bad about “only” Somin really disappointed me...Like.. there are 2 main women, why did they “diss” Somin then flattering Jihyo?

 

Anyway, some little KookMin moments has saved my mood. Yoo-nim took care of Somin and the “puppy fight” with Kwangsoo also raise the mood.

 

Don't be disappointed. JSM and SJH are only playing their different roles in RM and it just happens that JSM is responsible for the role of the naughty sister so she has to take on the less flattering side. If anything, actually this episode was meant for SJH, but it turns out more as a tribute to JSM's capabilities/chemistry with the cast than SJH's. 

 

19 hours ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

i watched  only the opening subbed but i feel the episode was set up more for sjh than jsm.  The premise was that the guys used to see sjh more as a woman once upon a time, but that down the years, they see her as one of the boys. so min has only been on the show for 3 years and they still treat her as the maknae. i also don't think jsm's appeal was her beauty in the first place or her being able to make their hearts flutter the moment she met them. kjk himself has said that she grew on him over time - 'the more you see, the more you like' and it must be the same for some of the cast. lks and ysc have always been her friends and the three hang out all the time. kwangmin share the same agency. jsj picked jsm over sjh in the radio interview saying he felt more comfortable around her. yjs does an additional show with jsm. haha and jsm also regularly interact outside the show. i don't need to talk about kookmin - kjk and jsm drink together, he knows what she is watching, he has her book in his house, she was the only member to attend both his concerts last year and be invited to sing on the stage with her. sjh used to hang out more with the cast before but for a few years now, i don't get to hear those stories. so, just get the feeling she has her circle now and while she must be chatting with the members on kakaotalk or phone, i, personally, feel it isn't as it used to be. sjh has become quieter on the show and now that there is another female member, there won't be that special consideration like before - 'she is the only female member'. so i felt it was pd's way of giving her a special episode which has been her fans' demand for a long time.

i wish though that the concept was about treating the two girls as princesses because recovering initial feelings would lead to comparisons and since both women have different charms and sjh has been longer on the show, it is not a fair comparison. i also felt bad to see kjk being penalised for singing to jsm since the  concept was about the men being nice to both the women and not just to sjh.   

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anyway,  i don't think the pd's purpose of the episode was discovering the initial feelings for so min. we should keep that in mind when we see the episode. compared to sjh's clips, so min's were shorter and from the way the guys kept praising sjh while being normal with so min, you can notice they did what they were supposed to do. it is a bit sad but to me, it just means those feelings are still there for jsm. yjs also said that - we treat you the same way we treated you when you first came. jsj also said that 'i don't know about our resolution about jsm, but we may have forgotten our resolution about sjh'.

 

so i wouldn't go much by the spartace focus which was again clips used romantically when they weren't like that in the first place. for example, kjk calling sjh "pretty jh" was in an episode where he was recruiting members for his team and he was being sugary sweet to everyone on his team.  the guys also know that, but they are exaggerating because spartace used to be a loveline. i didn't find anything weird in jsm's words to kjk away from the camera. i thought it followed the concept of the episode - the guys had to do more to win the favor of the ladies. since kjk hadn't said anything about jsm in the opening other than that she likes episodes where she is the centre, perhaps it was about wanting him to do more. she also addresses him as jong kookah and asks him whether he has anything to say about her entrance during the quiz.  so  i would take 'you shouldn't stay quiet' as not asking him to be more active with sjh, but to be more active with her. if jsm wanted sjh to be treated as kjk's loveline, she wouldn't have asked him to sing her BGM. that is not usual jsm. she doesn't pick kjk even when she can; so i definitely think jsm wanted to be treated as special by kjk.

 

i do feel kjk was being asked to do more for sjh by the pd because the three clips that were shown to the cast were about spartace. it was haha who was part of the love triangle but only one clip involving him was there. lks has also been quite considerate of sjh during fanmeets, but that was also not shown. ysc also talked about dating sjh in his first episode as a permanent member. that wasn't there either. i believe that is why kjk was also trying to play his role. it was on sjh whom kjk commented in the opening - that she used to be very pretty while the guys were more unsophisticated. he called out  'pretty jh, where are you?' a few minutes later . that is another reason why i believe jsm's words to kjk  soon after wasn't about wanting him to be more active with sjh because he was definitely doing his part.

 

if kookmin have private conversations, it must be at the parking lot like kjk mentioned in a previous episode or those conversations won't be aired.  towards the end of the episode, kookmin have a conversation by themselves in a corner, but it is not shown and the others also talk to take the focus off them. but the way so min touched kjk and put her arms around him is important.  it is much more casual and intimate than what we have generally seen her doing in front of the cameras. so it shows one can't always base their relationship based on what we see in front of the camera. other things may have been conveyed there than the words. that is my feeling. i also wonder if she felt a bit upset that her clips were not shown. she got a bit hot-tempered with lks who was the only one who helped her with her bag. yjs, haha and ysc went to sjh while kjk decided to watch everything from the sidelines. it was after that she went to kjk - may be wanting his attention, wanting him to do things for her. in the next segment, kjk did that. he covered her legs with jsj's jacket.

 

coming to spartace, kjk has a strong friendship with sjh and loyalty because of them being close colleagues and the firing incident which involved just the two, but never seen any romantic spark. perhaps he looked at her more as a woman in her early years, but down the years, it has been just a close friendship. i feel the spark between kjk and jin young - they have chemistry but i have never felt that between spartace.  kjk's mom said the truth - if they didn't date even after 7-8 years of being close colleagues, then it is not going to happen.  whenever he  has been teased about her in a loveline, he has always been awkward.  sjh has been more active in the loveline than kjk has ever been. The questions about marriage compatibility were raised by sjh during the fortune forecast but kjk just joked he has to be careful about sjh.  even when  haha once said sjh got upset when kjk picked hjy over her, kjk didn't change his stance.  haha has tried to pressurize him many times to choose sjh or date her,  but he hasn't done it. last episode, if he wanted, he could have played sjh's husband, but he didn't. this episode too, when they played the clips and said he was shy, he defended himself. first time, he said he was just awkward. second time, he said "you guys asked me to do it". the third time was him being sweet to her as part of the mission to get everyone on his team, but he couldn't obviously mention that. all he did was compliment her on how pretty she was. it was not about having any feelings for her once upon a time.

 

anyway, i thought the episode must have had a conflicting kind of concept for kjk and jsm. kjk's supposed role this episode was all about being extra sweet to sjh since the introductory clips were all about spartace. it didn't have anything related to jsm. on the other hand, for jsm, the concept must have meant today she could make a demand to be treated not just as se chan's loveline. she could demand that kjk also should treat her as a woman - sing to her, talk more about her. that is why she was doing things with kjk she normally doesn't do. she went to him asking him not to be quiet, wanted him to sing BGM to her, called out his name during the quiz asking him to comment specifically on her. kjk doesn't do these things to jsm these days because that would be getting in the way of chanmin loveline. but he also understood what she wanted and tried to do as much as possible - sing to her, cover her legs, say cheesy lines. if kjk had picked up sjh and brought her to the chair at the very beginning, i would have seen something there. but if you watched the proceedings, it was after he got penalised by sjh for singing to jsm  claiming he should be singing only to her. so, sjh was asking him to treat her as his loveline for the day.  sjh must have thought since jsm has her loveline, she could also expect kjk to play his part in their loveline. 

 

i haven't watched the rest of it subbed, but these are my thoughts. anyway, sjh interrupting kjk when he was being sweet to jsm made me realise kjk and jsm both might have professional roles they need to keep in mind when they are on the show. kjk cannot treat jsm differently and jsm also shouldn't demand special attention from kjk. despite all that, they still manage to be sweet to each other. 

 

 

 

Agreed - it has become very obvious that KJK and even the cast is much closer to JSM than SJH. Guess she really grew on them, especially KJK. Talking a lot outside work, having drinks together.

 

Perhaps what i felt is very telling is that once cameras supposedly cut, JSM often gravitates to KJK, HH, YSC as seen in the Haha PD youtube video. Even more than that, I noticed how she sort of 'auto' seek out KJK for a chat a lot of times when cameras cut. This speaks volume on how well their friendship is.

 

While I am hesitant to bet on Kookmin being a romantic couple (if i'm forced to place bets), I still enjoy their chemistry and how close they are. 

 

Thanks.

 

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

On 9/11/2020 at 12:26 AM, YellowDress said:

OMG, such jobless people. Doing things just to get others to dislike the kookmin fandom. 

 

Sincerely hope it's not an actual fan. There are some limits to shipping which I wish everyone follows. 

Hi,

 

Yes, but unfortunately, the real world is different - KJK was badly insulted and dissed by antis. Especially by cfandom toxic shippers - calling him PUA or threatening the lady who got close to him etc. 

 

On 9/11/2020 at 12:44 AM, autumnflowers said:

Couldn't find jongkook_somin1 but there's jongkook_somin10 just like a poster above said i think they changed their username. This account reminds me of sominjongkookcouple which is known for their over the top captions and comments too. Jsm's fans have shown their dislike towards thst sominjongkookcouple and think that's jsm's hater

This jongkook_somin10 is using jsm's picture as their profile picture. All the kookmin accounts use kookmin pictures for their profile pictures. I can't tell what their intentions are but jsm and her fans will be the ones get the hate 

Hi,

 

Already reported all these accounts. Yes, there are some toxic shippers in every ship so the ship (in my opinion), has a responsibility to try to report and stop such toxicity from spreading.

E.g. recently i noticed an IG account that was pushing hard on HJY-KJK and dissing SJH so me and other KJK or HJY or shippers had to report because we do not agree with the hashtag songjihyoout. There is already sominout and kimjongkookout so we should not encourage such negativity.

 

Although it could also be other shippers. You may have known, but recently in cfandom for RM, they exposed toxic shippers organizing an effort to diss fans who spoke ill of their stan. The toxic shippers had told the group to use dummy accounts and claim to be fans of 7012 and not their stan. It is really unbelievable how low some could stoop to in order to ruin the reputation of others. 

 

16 hours ago, vxxncx said:

Yes!! I don't know if he first announce it earlier, but he has a VLIVE (Philippines online fanmeet, I am filipino, thats why I have an opportunity to watch it btw the live just ended now) with YSC, Haha and JSJ earlier and he said his new album is on the works now! 

Speaking of the online fanmeeting, ChanMin loveline is still alive  or I don't know maybe they know that there's a lot of ChanMin fans in our country thats why they did that  Haha keep on teasing YSC earlier even KJK chants JSM name to tease YSC. Members really did love JSM, they mentioned her a lot  Just a heads up, maybe they will still continue the LL to the next episodes ... But hey, I'm not being negative here I'm still confident with KookMin of course. I know that is just a loveline  

Hi,

 

Yes, I think for FM, members tend to cater to the crowd and give fanservice. That is why they are adding fuel to Spartace and Chanmin LLs.

 

Though some fans are definitely not pleased and find HH to be overdoing things sometimes. I think on the international scene, whoever KJK announces as his other half is sure going to face lots of bombardment from various sunken ships. 

 

Let's hope this does not counter the efforts KJK had done in clearing up on-screen LLs. 

 

On a side note: please continue to support YJS and JSM in Sixth Sense. There are 8 episodes planned and it is really quite nice. Now I make it a goal to at least guess the fake correctly at least once. 0/2 

 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

18 hours ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

MUD has been subbed. kjk looks royally pissed with jsm's comment.     wonder if she watched yesterday's episode.  i also wonder what wookminie has to say about his sister's comment.

 

it is hard to say what their equation is. perhaps he has someone else and this is a case of getting upset over general perceptions about muscle men? or perhaps she is someone important enough whose opinion hurt him? he referred to her as so minie, not as jeon so min shi. kjk also said that gfs and wives of muscle men are misunderstood as liking them just for their bodies, but he said their partners like them for their sincerity. kjk was the most vocal in defending muscle men. it was really cute. 

Hi,

 

I think on a positive note - he is trying to speak up for his fans and 'potential gf' - that people often label or speak to them as if they like KJK for his physique when actually they like him for his character/loyalty/reliability. Like the high school girl in ICSYV7 - as he mentioned, "thanks for liking me when your age group mostly like BTS". Or if he has a gf, then his words could also serve to let audience know that his gf does not like him for looks but rather, the whole package. 

 

Personally, I also became his fan because of his character, not his singing prowess or athletic capabilities. I admit: back in 1995 when I followed Turbo, my preference was KJN but after the ran away incident & KJK stayed to continue on with Mikey, I became his fan. 

 

Generally, my takeaway from this episode according to KJK: 

• Guys do not exercise to attract women, but because they like it (of course, there are exceptions)
• Whoever likes KJK (romantic/non-romantic) likes him because of his 'inside' not his 'outside'
• Muscle guys will not cheat on their other halves because they do not go clubbing, they go gym
• They are easy to take care of because they do not ask for too many stuff

 

Though you could be right that he took those words to heart....but the interesting coincidence is that so far on-screen, only 2 celebs (JSM/HJY) have this 'special treatment' from KJK:

Both mentioned women does not like muscular guys/ask him to reduce exercise on screen

Both are very close & comfortable friends with KJK.

Both are also the only 2 celebs which KJK carried their stuff for them on-screen: JSM in the Anyang chase episode (her pouch & phone) while HJY in E499 (her waist pouch). 

Okay, I better stop observing useless trends...

 

 

On a side note, my vote for some of the funniest moments for RM519 :

JSM cursing after KJK ask her to return to her side (please watch together with Haha cursing in MUD ramen cooking episode)

JSM & HH faces when KJK says thieves usually stay at the sides

YSC & his face mask

 

Thanks.

 

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

Hi,

 

For those who have yet to watch, please try out the first episode of Sixth Sense. Personally, I quite like the episode.

 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1423245wpp/the-sixth-sense-pd-shares-why-he-cast-yoo-jae-suk-jessi-jun-so-min-lovelyzs-mijoo-and-more

 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1423521wpp/yoo-jae-suks-new-variety-show-the-sixth-sense-premieres-to-strong-start-when-i-was-the-most-beautiful-ratings-rise

 

Please support YJS & JSM. 

 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

Hi,

 

Seok Jin adores Somin.....though she never watch his Youtube channel.  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8VHfu5m3wc

 

Update: Running Man has resumed filming today (they were celebrating birthdays for the August babies).

 

Thanks.

 

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

Hi,

 

Hope things will improve for SK.

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/08/running-man-and-all-the-butlers-halt-filming-due-to-spike-in-covid-19-numbers

 

Meanwhile, please stay positive & enjoy the recent episodes. 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

2 hours ago, kukumarq1 said:

According to today's Running Man episode, both Jong Kook and Somin won a 'most popular with foreign fans' poll. 

Hi,

 

Some additional info, hope I got it correct.

 

I think the poll was foreign fans look at professional photos of RM members to rank who will be successful in entering Hollywood entertainment scene. 

#1 - JSM

#2 - KJK

#3 - SJH

 

I personally find this other poll gold - working people rank RM as the boss you do not want to get/meet.

#1 - YJS (too naggy)

#2 - KJK (too naggy)

#3 - LKS (the kind who will make things difficult for subordinates/'torture' his staff)

#4 - JSJ (old and obstinate/stubborn)

  

 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

Hi,

 

Sorry again. 

 

MUD this week (Ep 203) has 2 KJK segments: 

 

Individual segment is Dragon Club brothers visiting his house (Cha Tae Hyun & Hong Kyung-min)

Group segment is continuation of HJY house visit.

 

Thanks. 

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

Hi,

 

Sorry to post again.

 

JSM fans, please support her & LKS tomorrow. Their agency is really more professional. 

 

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/08/jeon-so-min-to-appear-as-a-guest-for-tiktok-stage-with-men-and-mission-fan-meeting-feat-kingkong-by-starship-actors

 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

On 8/10/2020 at 10:11 PM, kookminclan RunningMan said:

i like ODM. i am watching 'into the ring' and though his character is all kinds of shady, he is a charismatic actor.  however, everyone knows jsm is extremely close with her 'embarrassing days' costars. they meet up for dinners and send each other food trucks. one can't say anything for sure but it strikes me as less likely for jsm to reveal her bf all of a sudden through sns. all the same, if your bias is dating someone, let them reveal at their sweet time. don't push them into revealing things when they are not ready.

 

i had seen those comments under jsm's and ODM's ig but i paid them no heed. there is no way an actor would declare his love through sns when he is in the middle of a drama shoot. i saw comments by jsm fans who thought there could be something more and by SA shippers. some SA shipper was inviting other commenters to  read their twitter thread about jsm and ODM where they had supposedly analysed all the hidden clues between jsm's and ODM's posts. so here, the culprits could be both jsm fans who want to see her happy with someone good and others who are extremely interested to see jsm settle down with any guy who is not kjk . 

forget about yeh and the other ladies. i still can't get over kjk and sung si kyung holding hands and singing love ballads to each other and kjk not having the courage to look at ssk properly. 

Hi,

 

Yes, sometimes it could be anti fans posing in a bid to 'collect' bad karma for the one they hate.

 

Hopefully JSM's personal life can stay private and proceed with more happiness.

 

But hey, think on the bright side of things - for one, I am very glad that JSM has signed with a good agency that took action for her so rapidly.   Things will be better for her with a respectable agency + a great senior in LKS looking out for her.

 

On 8/11/2020 at 2:21 AM, Cassandra E. Bett said:

I'm starting to suspect that there's an anti-shipper in this thread. Everytime they post, it's always negative towards the ship. Remember guys, this is supposed to be fun, not a matter of life and death!

Hi,

 

Actually this is very common. In the video streaming sites for cfans, you always find some toxic fans going around posting negative comments to the shipping videos which are not to their own liking.

 

So everybody should try to stay positive & focus on the fun and good things. Remember the book The Secret - think positive to attract positive.

 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

14 hours ago, kyoko22 said:

@kukumarq1 Thanks for explaination. I watch the clip of that scene yesterday and understand that the topic is about skinship. Since my hangul is super limited, really can't understand what he he said when JH's and Somin's name came out.

 

Since side hugging (this is the gesture he show in that scene) is not really a skinship to him, now I'm curious which type of hug is considered skinship. Ah, too many things that I curious and there are no answers. Hahaha. 

Hi,

 

The last question was about whether the young people surveyed is less accepting of which skinship: hugging vs holding of elbow, so the discussion was about the skinship level you can accept if someone does either to your other half + how you view these 2 skinship.

 

KJK was questioned by the emcee whether he likes skinship (this question can be a loaded gun ), so after some hesitation, KJK answered yes. I think this aligns with the KJK analysis by his fans earlier that he actually can be less guarded about skinship with those close to him. So maybe of the 5 love languages, physical touch could possibly be one of his love language (note: applies to both romantic & non-romantic).

 

He also said that in RM when they finish a tough mission, they will hug (he mentioned SJH & JSM) as well. The interesting thing is the show pasted the comment "Zero feelings" behind what he said. Hence, I think this is to reinforce the notion that there are no romantic feelings between the hugs you see in the show - they are just expressing their happiness as a team. 

 

This show still does not have much viewers; if there were more non-korea viewers, i hope they get the message to just enjoy variety shows and don't over read too much into skinship. It will be wonderful if fans keep in mind that as celebrities in the entertainment circle, there has to be more leeway for skinship boundaries because their job requires it especially for dramas or variety shows. We Got Married is perhaps a very huge example highlighting this.

 

As a KJK fan, we just hope that anti-fans will not hold him moral hostage & attacked/dissed him for being 'touchy' with multiple ladies. He is just being a gentleman trying his best to care for the lady in his own way. 

 

Unfortunately, social media is uncontrollable and has loads of negativity. Look at he recent MUD episode. KJK-HJY gave a great performance (let's not care whether is it real or fake) and boosted the ratings for the show but still earned the wrath of toxic antis.

 

In all, I think we all just want the best for JSM and KJK, whether together or they find their own happiness. Our worry is that KJK is getting on in the years, so we don't want him to drag on too long and missed out on all the "those-who-got-away". 

 

Thanks.

 

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

44 minutes ago, kukumarq1 said:

After last week's episode of MUD and the whole "I think of her" incident, it was probably the first time I saw other Jong Kook fans finally acknowledging that he is indeed dating.

 

Usually, they skirt around the idea and just try to not discuss or acknowledge it since Jong Kook himself hadn't confirmed anything.

 

But since both HaHa and Jong Kook himself, have more or less confirmed it, other Jong Kook fans have more or less stopped shipping him with his co-stars. 

Hi,

 

Yes, a large portion is same as @HappyVirusRM for “team Kookie is dating someone”.  Especially since KJK has been avoiding matching up with single female co-stars in shows + constant seeking of marriage advice to avoid any gossip.

 

36 minutes ago, kyoko22 said:

Just out of curiousity, may I know which co-stars are these. Of course the famous one Spartace, but some of you said JK's fans rather ship him with anyone by JH. And with YEH. And Jin Young. Is there any other ships that I didn't realise?

 

@HappyVirusRM I feel you. I'm also experiencing the withdrawal syndrome . Keep looking on my IG and feel so lonely. Hahaha.

Hi,

 

I think you are referring to me.   Not all, but just to clarify that there is an emergence of such a group since they cannot tolerate the shenanigans of the toxic shippers. 

 

I will say the big 4 CP ships out there are still Spartace / Hong Jin Young / Son Naeun / Jeon Somin. 

Spartace - still the biggest fleet out there, but you know their reputation......

HJY - most accept them as business CP so they are not over-pushing it for their real life union. Does not hurt to fawn over their chemistry though....

Naeun - small ship in ifandom but very up & coming ship in cfandom. 

JSM - ifans mostly ship them as romantic CP. cfans mostly ship them as siblings CP.

 

For the '5th' CP ship which is "dark horse celeb" will be other celebs, though only YEH is a 'ship'. Others like Go Ara / Seohyun / Chae Yeon / Seo In Ah / Kang Hanna / Seo Eun-soo / Moon Geun Young are not exactly 'ships'  but just that audience likes them or find them compatible.

 

BTW, YEH's recent interview in Kim Gura's show that she has not dated for 8 years actually added some fuel to YEH-KJK shippers who believed they really dated since the timeline they suspected matches up with her response.

 

The last will be the '6th' ship - dating non-celebs. 

 

Hope this helps!

 

1 side note - KJK cfans were 'rioting' due to his recent instagram post of eating pizza. Some 'eagle-eyed' fans pointed out that there was a lady's reflection in his coffee cup, a lady in white shirt. So many concluded it is a lady who took that photo for him. 

 

My advice - just sit back & relax. We are talking about KJK's announcement. It sure is going to be a long wait. Though most are expecting an announcement in 2020 and a marriage in 2021. 

 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

20 hours ago, HydenG said:

The loveline JSM & YSC ended the second they started to admit it was forced. They couldn't just stop it tho', it slowly had to go away to make it more natural (and not just for views). Also, YSC & JSM were always close (just check the old episodes) and the amount of time she likes to tease him is insane. 

 

As for KJK & JSM, i have no idea where it's going. Mixed signales, and when i say "mixed" i mean there's a lot of things showing they are extremely close but there's nothing to actually say "oh yeah, def together". Also, next episode we will have JSM loveline with a guest, we will see how it goes. I feel like it's 100% going to be used in the opening segment than ignored.

 

By the way, i think dating in the korean celebrity world is extremely different or am i wrong ? 

Hi,

 

@HydenG Perhaps this might help.

 

From my understanding, in the K-entertainment circle, dating between celebrities is not an easy thing. No matter who or what, somehow, it is difficult to please the fandom of both side. As you know, there could be obsessive fans that is out for blood if their celeb does not move/does as they want. Besides, there are many unspoken rules/regulations in the K showbiz so it does place a lot of stress on the celebs.

 

1 major area of 'difference' is that non-korean audience tends to take on-screen stuff too seriously. Especially for variety shows because almost everything have some sort of script ranging form a little scripted to heavily scripted.

 

The word CP actually does not have any romantic connotations at the beginning; it was meant to celebrate the chemistry between 2 celebs on-screen, even for the same gender. Somewhere along the line, international fandoms started to force romantic shacklings onto the word CP and things have gone downhill ever since. Last year's Best CP award for SBS is actually a good reminder to audience that IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ROMANTIC.   

 

Hence, I try not to over-read body language behaviour based on on-screen shows - it seldoms turns out be true because the celebs are enacting a character/persona. Spartace have been compiling the 50 body language love signs since way back in 2012/2013...many other KJK lovelines also had gone through these.

 

Or perhaps the most famous would be Monday couple.......turns out - Gary married someone else and built a happy family. 

 

Or how about literally every single We Got Married couple had gone through these from their shippers. How many WGM couples really end up together?

 

So just sit back and enjoy the shows on-screen. Dun tax your brains over-reading into it.  This week's RM episode is another riot isn't it? I love how YJS can be the poster boy for anti-gambling   or how he made the members pay tax when he runs out of caramel sweets 

 

Thanks.

 

 

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

Hi,

 

While not kookmin related, this is to help spread love for kookie.

 

DenQ actually made a TMI about kookie. 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

18 hours ago, TaengTaengoo said:

Im not tryna you know stoop to their level or whatever but isnt the cjes ceo that sjh dated in the past likely one of the guys that used to threaten and beat up kjk feels weird that people can ship them if thats true

Hi,

 

Yes, it is Baek Chang Joo. One of the managers for Turbo that was 'reputed' to abuse Turbo back then. 

 

In her defence, I think SJH is a very nice & nurturing person. Rather than because she dated BCJ (some may use it as a reason to deny the ship), personally i think many KJK fans would be okay but is put off by her 'toxic' fans though...

 

The SJH-KJK ship is a very 'weird' ship - usually shippers like & defend both parties. But the 'toxic' fans only praise/like SJH but diss/attack/make fun of KJK when he does something not to their liking. So you have 'shippers' who will defend SJH whenever someone says something bad about her, but these fans stay silent if KJK is attacked by antis. When this happens long enough, the KJK fandom tends to withdraw their support for this 'ship'.

 

There are definitely good SJH-KJK shippers out there, but unfortunately, the toxic fans gave them a very bad reputation. Perhaps if at the start, they move to clamp down on such toxic fans, things may turn out differently.

 

This was why this Kookmin ship had asked of shippers not to tag KJK/JSM or to report if they found any accounts that seems to be an anti-fan. Fans can make or break a star, especially in this world of social media.

 

14 hours ago, TaengTaengoo said:

Im pretty sure Kim Kwangsoo from Taras company is also one of them as well as sjh ex bf

Hi,

 

Kim Kwang Soo is the owner who employed BCJ. Both's reputation are not exactly....great..

 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1402024wpp/mbk-entertainment-founder-kim-kwang-soo-summoned-by-prosecution-for-questioning-regarding-produce-101

 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1171997wpp/mbk-entertainment-founder-kim-kwang-soo-talks-t-aras-past-controversy

 

Followers of the famous youtuber, DenQ, had been waiting for him because he did commented that he should one day make a video on KKS and his infamy.

 

6 hours ago, Shia Has said:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snpamm

 

KJK has a painful past

Hi,

 

Yes, thats why we treasure him very much. 

 

The best is he never give up and shoulder on. Any fans who look into his history knows the famous "3-ups & 3-downs" of his career.

 

And he deserves to have a great partner & great life for being such a great guy to his friends and his hoobaes.

 

On a side note - my wish came true. YJS-KJK combo for the live screening.

 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

1 hour ago, Vimsmoke Sanji said:

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Hi too.

Thank you for answering me, Sorry but can you explained to me after a human failed to find the vaccine within 10 minutes mean they gonna be a High-Class Zombie right? What is High-Class Zombie role after that? can KJK (High-Class Zombie) helped JSM steal an items and give to SJH? if so that mean KJK YSC LKS (High-Class Zombie) and together with JSM (The Assistance) were stealing an items from the Human right? Dont you think it unfair to the Human Team? not too mention 10 minutes before the race end, the Zombie started to be more aggresive.. or i'm wrong??  

 

Hi,

 

No worries, happy to help.

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From my understanding:

If your nametag is torn by low class zombies, you become a low class zombie.

If your item is put into boxes by Mother Zombie or in JSM case, bitten by her, you become a High class zombie. You haf 10 min to find vaccine or end up being HC. If you are trialed n exposed, you become LC.

Difference is low class zombie haf to out on makeup n move slowly according to sound n repelled by hand sanitizer.

High class zombie is better because no makeup and act like human. So technically, their power is they can disguise as human.

HC aids in stealing stuff from humans to pass to Mother, who put into boxes to infect them

 

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Yes, you are correct in saying the game is unfair. This is one of the reason cfandom were unhappy with this episode. There were too much adavantages to zombie team and too little vaccines (only 2 were shown) n too little clues to help them.

 

Just to clarify a bit more so that viewers dun think badly of cfandom. Their preferences is a bit different from kfandom or int fandom in that they like exciting games, twists etc over gag comedy or overdoing things. And the theme has to be balanced and not too scripted so that the members can truly shine with their antics n chemistry.

 

The past 2 episodes were too heavily scripted for them - the muggle KJK have to lose, zombies have to win. Not that they haf to, but the odds are too against them. Plus some choices made hints heavily of being told by PD to do so. E.g. triggering a zombie stampede to reduce it to just 4 pax with the confirm humans being out?  Or KJK choosing JSJ into the special room? Or how nobody is seeking KJK out as they do in all pasts nametag survival challenges?

 

It is not easy for the Pd n crew. Personally i enjoyed the laughs for these 2 recap episodes, but sorry, i dun think they can make it to the list of classics for me.

 

Thanks.