☆ 2 P M ★ Official Thread ☆

[Guest lady_bug]

MY LAST POST FOR TODAY

Please let us not bash each other, I want to talk freely with out having to trouble the moderators.

You can choose to believe it or not, IT IS JUST A RUMOR PEOPLE.

Here are my thoughts.

Skelly's post may have hurt you, and you can choose to believe it or not, but I would have to agree with Skelly. If those rumors are true, and i said if, then those members who Skelly listed would be my choice too. I have no doubt that the boys, all of them wants their leader back, but come on, we are humans too--

Since rumors seem to be what we Hottest are only getting at the moment, I choose to believe in them because most of what came out to the public, became true. This does not unwaver my support in bringing our pink grandpa back because I think Jay's story, the way he was treated and portrayed was a social injustice. I am an foreigner and it makes Korea and JYP's business look bad.

However, I think talking about rumors in general and rational is a good thing if we don't bash eachother and see their views from the person's point of view and background. Let us not be condescending but respectful. I think we've all been hurt and used. Talking and speaking our mind I think will makes us become aware of the situation from a broader perspective and will keeps each other inform. I rather not stay in the dark, if you know what I mean. Anyways, this thread has become silent. I miss the old days where we each could talk about our boys unmindful.

By the way, I wonder when 2oneday will sub infinity challenge survival of Jay and Junho. I wish to see the whole episode subbed. It sucks to not be Korean.

[Guest saranghaepopo]

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[Guest kay35]

I thought this was cool to share, hope the original poster from another forum dont mind. Thanks. hehe ~I've never knew but just wanted to share with others as well who are curious. I never knew 2pm was so high up there. Ok, far from #1 but not really either! awesome! Wish I could register with Daum too. Notice, their co-team WGals are the only girlgroup on top with the boys too. Yah for JYP peeps! hehe. By the way can anyone tell me, what that 2nd number means after the original count?

QUOTE (raikko9 @ Jan 31 2010, 07:56 PM)

[iNFO] 100201 February Latest Idol Groups Fanclub Rankings On Daum

1 TVXQ 787,484 - 2581

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2.Bigbang 370,322 - 2094

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3.少女时代 294,370 +2407

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4.2PM 284,786 +7050

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5.SS501 272,945 -1394

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6.Super Junior 252,121 -1908

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7.神话 190,095 -815

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8.SHINee 115,260 +1927

http://cafe.daum.net/TVNDRM

9.Wonder Girls 111,230↑1 +230

http://cafe.daum.net/wg070210

10. FT-Island 110,745↓1 -453

http://cafe.daum.net/fti5

11.2ne1 96,594 +109

http://cafe.daum.net/2NE1

12.MBLAQ 64,580 +2835

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13.BEAST 58,797↑1 +4857

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14.FX 55,202↓1 +685

http://cafe.daum.net/91382073

15.kara 51,865 +259

http://cafe.daum.net/Dejuanholic

16.2AM 51,053↑1 +7559

http://cafe.daum.net/2-oclock

17.天上智喜 47,052↓1 -297

http://cafe.daum.net/cheonsangjihee

18.Brown Eyed Girls 42,559 +1057

http://cafe.daum.net/Browneyedgirls

19.4minute: 18,117 +988

http://cafe.daum.net/4minute

20.t-ara： 16,673 +275

http://cafe.daum.net/HairMan

21.Afterschool： 13,911 +628

http://cafe.daum.net/PlaygirlzAS

22.ukiss 5,054 -46

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[asth]

those members Skelly has picked wouldn't be my choice....

Foot in both camps: Junsu

Wooyoung, Nichkhun would take Jay's side and perhap's Junho too... I remember when he come in 2OD forums to say to hottests to fight... and Chansung. I chose Nichkhun because I love study his expressions. I sincerely think that even if he may be the member who speaks up almost never, he can have his own opinions, do his own choices I mean... He can have some strong points of view...

Also, I think (by watching some fan cams) that Jay is the closest to Nichkhun, but they don't show it in front of camera. I really think they have one of the strongest relationsip in 2PM.

But I don't know for sure...

Taec... honestly I have the same point of view than Skelly's

Personnally, I highly doubt that JYPE would let these precious informations spread so I think it is fake

lol, to me 2PM has no spontaneity anymore. Fake smiles (as the latest photos xD )

Nichkhunie and his new hair!!

I waited so long for Junho to be back in LDT!! Plus as a fixed member? Am I dreaming? keke

[Guest fattie8701]

I like nichkhun for saying this... but still the pessimist in me cant help but see another marketing ploy...still though i like that he said this... the boy is very witty... he is also another one gifted with words...

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"Khun said "we are 2PM but we miss one member so we are incomplete 2PM. that's why it's 01:59PM""

[Guest Janin]

2PM to realese CF/song for SPRIS on Feb.5

[Guest FraLippoLippi]

At times like this, I do not think we should keep on speculating who that member is. Some of you think it's Taec o.O, but please remember how Taec showed the most anger on the last performance of 2PM as 7 at the Incheon Korean Music Wave when the scandal first broke out. I felt his resentment at that time and I believe it was towards all the attacks that Jay received. The rumor may be true or not and yeah their opinions can change, but we still do not know and let us not judge too quickly. I just feel like it is not right that there are hottests who are jumping into conclusions about this. I still love all 7 of them no matter what these rumors say. Their brotherhood has been proven many times. Yes it may change (which i don't believe) but let us not lose our trust and faith to 2PM just yet.

Be strong hottests! All the new pictures with only the 6 of them makes me feel hopeless but I will still stay strong for 7. T^T

EDIT: @fattie: khun said that? thank you khun, our angel.

[Guest amura]

omg guys plz stop talking about that rumor even if u think it might be true , it 'll only hurt the boys & the fans.

Post your favorite videos of 2PM's performance!

i ll start first ^^

Summer Festival AAA

Summer Festival IHY

Summer Festival 10/10

Taec's mic broke down and Jay covered up for him

i like ur idea and may i say that u picked my fav. videos lol

i hope the fans 'll join too instead picking who is in this side or the other

hi there! i want one more request to make! thanks to taejun4 who answered my last post! hahaha hope to see more shirtless junsu soon! xDDDD

some one knows where is this gif from?

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/sus...rebollation.gif

here it is

Edit: don't forget to join every project to bring their hyung back, if the rest of the members can't we as fans should do this for them & him , its not over yet!!!

[Guest NONE.LIKEYOU]

You're kidding, right?

Look, it may be just a rumor and you bunch may be just discussing/"speculating", but that's a pretty big accusation, even if it's disguised and buttered up by "I think"s and "if"s.

The thing is, you never know if it's true or not, so why guess? Why add on negativity to Taec's name? Sure, he's been really popular lately, but that in itself doesn't prove anything. It doesn't show that he's on anyone's side: he's just doing his job.

It's not logical to judge any of these boys by their actions/words. They've probably been filtered and refiltered because of the Jaebum case; not to mention that they are idols, so when do we know what is true and what isn't? Their whole career is based on maintaining image, so who knows what their true feelings are?

In my opinion, this rumor should be disregarded as unnecessary information. It only tenses the fans up... -.-'

But whatever... say what you want.

[kandybites]

this makes me sad..

although i agree w/ skelly about Taec. why? he changed in my opinion..

the one who i know would always take Jae's side would be Khun, Wooyoung, and Junho.. why?

Khun protects Jae, Woo loves Jae, and Junho is like a real lil' bro to Jae (Jae gives hims stuff. lol! )

although i hope this is really just a rumor 2pm being divided...

cause if it is then their fandom would be crashing down..

i refuse to believe.. but sometimes all this rumor are just to good to be true..

anyways here's my favorite performance from the boys~

M! Countdown 2PM A&A comeback perf.

wishing that i would see this again sometime.

[Guest summer_night]

i really hope that this rumor isnt true

but, to be honest, like somebody already said, they're just humans too

we all know that they are really close friends, but in the end singing is just their job. they earn their money with this. and 6 earn more than 7 (if they split it). so for me it's kinda understandable...

btw my guess would be:

Pro-JYP: Nichkhun (he said that he's really close with JYP, and he seems like a really smart businessman to me.. so he would go for more money.. as much as i love him..)

Foot in both camps: Taec, Junsu

Pro-Hottest: Chansung, Woo

Unknown: Junho

i don't think that Taec is the person who would be on JYPs side.. i always thought that he and jay are BFFs lol...

but thats just my opinion...

[mikanpuriname]

EDIT: I guess I will try to not start controversy here although let me just say, that the whole point of a public forum is for the exchange of ideas and opinions. Everyone needs to stop getting butt hurt about every little thing. Think about all the Jay fans who have had to endure people saying that they can go on with 2PM even if Jay doesn't come back?

If you want respect for your opinions, please give it.

My personal opinions are the Chan, woo and junsu are unlikely to be the ones who side with JYPE. EDIT: And... that's the extent that I'm going to go into it.

EDIT: again, I'll try not to start controversy

Lastly, let me just say one thing that I love about Jay. He has always admitted that he wanted to become a star because he wants to make money to support his family, and this was the best/only way he could think of. At least he's honest and frank about it. No one is truly "carefree" and uncalculating. Everyone has their own goals and personal motivations. We just each prioritize differently.

[Guest kimmytnguyen]

i rather not think about how the guys being divided about jay situation. why cause another rumor to break out again? remember what happen to jay situation? how things got out of proportion? yeah, well lets not do that again. we all want jay back in the group so please don't say things like that to make him feel unwelcome..

anyways...

i love the video you showed eggplant i love the video where jay back taec up. fast thinking<3

[Aomenez]

hhmmm about the latest rumor, it can happen in the business world

I don't care which member take JYP's side or whatever, but if we continue discussing this topic

there will be another drama here, so let's it slide...pew~~~

[Guest amura]

If you're "hurt," by the speculations that there is one member of 2PM supporting JYPE, then that's because you believe/know/feel that JYPE is doing something shady against Jay whether you admit it or not.

Lastly, let me just say one thing that I love about Jay. He has always admitted that he wanted to become a star because he wants to make money to support his family, and this was the best/only way he could think of. At least he's honest and frank about it. No one is truly "carefree" and uncalculating. Everyone has their own goals and personal motivations. We just each prioritize differently.

sorry to cut ur post but yeah i guess that's why i'm hurt by this rumor , i don't wanna believe that one of them prefer money over his hyung its hard to believe the boys i knew changed.

plus lets not forget his cyworld msg " i need jay "

and the boys 1st album thank u sections

Lastly once we're a family we're always a family forever. Our 2PM, Jaebum, Junsu, Nichkhun, Taecyeon, Wooyoung, Chansung, whatever happens we're 2PM and whatever happens we will always be 2PM. We've heard loads of things, let's not get put down for we have bigger hills to cross. Let's throw out all the bad stuff. -Junho-

I'm sorry for not realising what's important to me. I myself, is embarrassed. Also the biggest strength I get which I'm thankful for and again thankful are from my brothers 2PM. -Wooyoung-

2PM BABIES Jay, Khun, Taec, Wooyoung, Junho, Chansung! I love you all. -Junsu-

Lastly 2PM members!! Jay, Junsu, Khun, Wooyoung, Junho, Chansung, Let's fight this over. Hwaiting!! -Taecyeon-

Lastly Jaebum, Junsu, Taecyeon, Khun, Wooyoung, Junho, Chansung our 7 let's do this this together even if we fall temporarily think of it as we're are doing it as one. Although we are as a 6, I am waiting until we become a 7. Don't give up J. -Chansung-

To the end our 2PM members... We have lost the most biggest part of our lives. Jay.. Wherever Jay is, without you I know we wouldn't have got this far, we are always hoping you are well. Also we always miss you. One day I hope we look back at this and laugh together, I will make sure you will be proud of us. -Khun-

CREDITS : 2PM's album, Baby♥ANGANG@2ONEDAY (TRANS)

btw that is one of many things i love about jay too

this is from his diary entry from HB

" The reason I want to do well

So that the other people can be proud

I want to become a good brother, friend, son, student, person…

If I do well, if I succeed, I can buy them the things they need and give them happiness…

All the people I love can do well..."

and don't forget what jay said when he got all the fans supporting letters " I will live to repay all the sincerity and love."

maybe some taecjay pix 'll stop this

CONGRATS 2 Junho we finally gonna see more of him & his butt lol

[Tiggie]

I'm glad we're discussing and we can do it in such a peaceful manner ! Hope it continues.

About the rumor ... honestly ever since Jay left I didn't believe any of these 2PM news articles that were unconfirmed by JYPE. On this matter and all matters regarding 2PM I'm going to wait. I'll support the boys with my heart which means all 7 of them. I'll always wait for Jay but I won't neglect the others. I'll be fighting for both and I won't be divided.

About Taecyeon, yes he did change. I'm sure everyone can see it. But I think it's for the better he's getting more praise and the spotlight he deserves but there's not a doubt in my mind that he doesn't want our Leadja back... even more than we do.

So I'm going to wait till April when 2PM's new album comes out. I hope all our prayers will be answered and we can go back to how we use to be.

I love Jay Park <3

LOVE & RESPECT.

[Guest mika.16]

eek I hope to death that new rumor isnt true...

but honestly, if it were, I wouldnt blame that one member =(

Even us fans are divided on what is the 'best future for 2pm',

imagine how conflicted the boys must be.

I highly doubt that the boys are conflicted on whether they want jay back,

I think they might just be divided on what the future holds for 2pm,

maybe the one who has sided with JYPE just wants all the crazy rumors/conspiracies etc to disappear and just move on?

And anyway, if jype has been playing mindgames with the fans, whats the chance he hasnt done that with the boys. I'm totally conspiring here lol nothing i say has been confirmed of course, but sometimes even the good guys can be affected by promises of popularity/money etc.

Another thing, I think we (as fans) should all be prepared for the day that the boys might 'change'. It happens to almost all celebrities. No matter how humble and selfless they are when they debut, fame, screaming fans, constant praise can get to one's head. I'm not saying that they'll completely change as people and become evil lol, but the way they act/react probably will in future. It might just even be their confidence levels boost up and become more eager speakers or whatever, but dont forget they are people too.

ive noticed it in them already, and no not in a bad way, just different.

[Guest le_maiii]

I remember reading somewhere, where a kHottest posted her thoughts about what was is going on right now. In her posting, it was like she was anti-Taecyeon as of now.

Given, Taecyeon has definitely gained the most from Jaebeom's departure. The boys stated that they would stay "leader-less" because Jaebeom would always be their leader. But if you guys think about it, Taecyeon seems as if he's technically their leader now --he did all the shirt ripping, ?he got Jaebeom's car commercial?, he's been offered dramas and variety shows, like skelly pointed out, he's the new "American Boy". Without Jaebeom, Taecyeon has been getting the glory.

I'm not saying that Taecyeon has gone PRO JYP, because I would love to believe that the boys are ALL waiting for Jaebeom. But... something just doesn't seem right.

But, I don't want to doubt Taec so these help remind me of the Jae-Taec love:

Taecyeon shouting "THIS IS FOR JAY PARK!" when they forget don't mention Jaebeom...

EDIT:

JUNHO CONFIRMED TO JOIN DREAM TEAM 2

2PM’s Junho appeared in the pilot episode of ‘Dream Team Season 2 – Green Team Is Coming‘, however there was no official confirmation that he would be joining the fixed cast. Earlier today it was revealed that Junho would be in fact joining the show as a regular.

The PD of the show revealed, “It’s been decided that Junho will join us for filming on the 10th with UFC fighters. Junho was always supposed to join the 2nd dream team but due to the Jaebeom incident, things were slowed down a bit.”

Junho will be joining SHINee’s Minho, g.o.d.’s Danny Ahn, FT Island’s Lee Hongki, Super Junior’s Eunhyuk and many others on February 10th for his first taping (aside from the already made pilot) and the episode will air on March 7th.

CREDIT: allkpop

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Here goes JYP and another one of his projects for our boys.... =___________=''

"Due to the Jaebeom incident, things were slowed down a bit..." What the hell. I don't like the way that's put. Maybe it's just me over-reacting... but to me it seems like he's blaming Jaebeom. Oh wait, he is. Agh, I don't know what... but there's something with that statement that just PISSES me off.

[Guest Eltoshen]

um wtf. Jay can reclaim his spot whenever he wants to by coming back. Right now, he's the most talked about star in Korea. And what's with this pro-JYP crap? JYP hasn't done anything to make themselves out as bad guys. It's only the blinded fans who have to find somebody to point the finger at.

If Jay wants to come back, yay! If not, whatever. But all this discussion about the members aiming to take over his fame? What the hell? All of a sudden, they're guilty of receiving popularity that Jay doesn't exactly care for anymore? That's plain bs, IMO.

[Guest Soulhead]

Wow ,nice move Khottest (or trouble-makers etc)

It's a really good way to make the 2PM Boys look like evil (because we don't know who is in JYPE side some fans will ''suspect'' all the members). Just 1-2 day after reading some anti-2PM comment by some Jay's fan...Funny and not surprising at all , I wonder why ?=)

I always seen Jay And Taec very close in TV ,so all these ''I'ts Taec'' are strange for me

@ le_maiii : But this is '''''Jay's fault '''''... Junho stopped Dream team because of Jay' scandal.There is nothing wrong with that ,they just said the truth...