Asian Sororities.

[Guest V A L XD]

I'm starting college in the fall...I'm afraid to join because i heard there is hazing involved for new members....

I remember some made the news.

[Guest phoenix rise]

you can't buy friends.

so why do you call them your 'friends'?

[Guest kuku]

you can't buy friends.

so why do you call them your 'friends'?

wow mate... that's such a generalization.

They are your brothers for life. Friendship is pricless.

[Guest phoenix rise]

wow mate... that's such a generalization.

They are your brothers for life. Friendship is pricless.

im just saying that it is impossible to buy friendship. it is impossible to do that just like it is impossible to buy love.

one can, however, buy their way into a group where there is a possibility that one can make true friends.

im in no way bashing the greek system. i am just saying that you can't buy friends.

[Guest deadgiveaway]

you can't buy friends.

so why do you call them your 'friends'?

Exactly. So then why do people say it's like paying for one's friends? Organizations and institutions need money to exist. Do people not give money to churches?

LOLOL sorority and fraternities..

why buy my friends when i can get them for free?

I don't like the idea of hazing, with them making you do things that you cannot disclose to people who are not part of the pledging process.

LOL Why? What's the big deal? Everyone can guess what you make those girls do anyways..

True friends are there to support you in who you are whatever you do- you don't gotta prove yourself to them by doing stupid things.

I just find it funny that a person has to subject herself to such cruel behavior by sisters (aka. friends) to become accepted within the greek society.

And if you are going to say that it makes the sisters stronger in the future, I don't want to hear it. It's so stupid.

It's like saying, "Hey, let me hit you with a bat so you can endure the pain and therefore our relationship will become stronger."

LOLOLLLL

Not all organizations haze. And even for those that do, no one is forcing the pledges to continue in the pledging process. A pledge may depledge if he or she so wishes. So why do they stay? I think that a lot of fraternity and sorority members would say that joining their Greek organizations is one of the best decisions that they have made. And "guess[ing] what you make those girls do anyways.." is simply being ignorant and thinking extreme stereotypes to be true.

I think people do not really realize that having someone join a Greek organization is a mutual process. It is not just about the fraternity or sorority being selective; the person rushing is also choosing the fraternity or sorority. And for those who think that the organizations are looking for specific types of people to join... well, of course they would only want people whom they could see as a good fit with the actives and the organization. When I was rushing my service sorority, I felt comfortable talking to the sisters during info night. I saw myself being friends and getting close with them. Had I not, I would not have signed up for an interview. It is about the organization and the person choosing each other.

I am not in an Asian-interest sorority, but I respect members of those organizations, because they seem to have strong bonds, support each other, and display great pride.

[Guest dancingbymyself]

I completely support asian sororities/frats. If not for them, I wouln't be able to party as much lol.

[Guest dancingbymyself]

I completely support asian sororities/frats. If not for them, I wouln't be able to party as much lol.

[klx13]

I'm really confused - if frats/sororities are such a good thing to have on your resume, why did my friend lose his scholarship when the uni found out he had joined?

That doesn't sound right to me-- why would they take away his scholarship because he joined a fraternity? There must have been other reasons, like the fraternity was not sanctioned by the university or maybe his grades dropped while he was pledging (thus, losing the scholarship).

[Guest clairdeluned]

I personally would not join an Asian sorority as I would prefer to be in a more diverse organization (which I am in, with Caucasians, Asians, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans etc.), but I do know plenty of people in Asian sororities and they enjoy it a lot It's really personal preference so be sure to rush, and decide from there. Nothing that any of us will say is going to determine how you end up feeling about it once you experience it for yourself, you know? Rush in the fall/spring and see how you like it, or talk to people who are in the system at your school, and see what they have to say about it. Good luck!

[candymoon]

I got 4 questions and hope i can get some answers!! thanks!

1. for the sisters, do they have limit? like, how many girls are there (for those that are in it/experienced) ,, do they all live in one house?! And can u really get ALONG with all the sisters?! Is this different experienced from roommate?!? if you heard all those roommates stories.. not getting along. Wont this happen to sisters too?!

2. I know that you all say they got good sister-bond and long lasting relationship?! So, there never fight or jelously? among 2 or 3 girls? or one group gang up other group within the sisters??

3. Since this is long-last relationshp among sisters, do you (for those that experinced) have best friends outside of the sisters? like, do you have time to hang with them or all your time belong to either classes, work, and sisters??

4. Last a stupid question.. for instance there 20 girls, so for chirstmas or any hoildays (gift-giving) you got to GIVE all or more sisters?! I know it's like exchanging but still, IT's lots money to spend!!! If you buy one sisiter better bc u get along with her, i am sure you all sit around together and open gifts together ,, then when others see you give them something cheapr, they prolly not too happy.. SO, What if u are poor, i mean college student are already poor .. then, xmas, bday and w/e else got to gifts exchange!!?

Okay, sorry that more than 4 questions .. but these qs are wandering around in my head... I plan to join so I hope i get some answers before ..thanks again!!

[klx13]

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[Guest phoenix rise]

I got 4 questions and hope i can get some answers!! thanks!

1. for the sisters, do they have limit? like, how many girls are there (for those that are in it/experienced) ,, do they all live in one house?! And can u really get ALONG with all the sisters?! Is this different experienced from roommate?!? if you heard all those roommates stories.. not getting along. Wont this happen to sisters too?!

2. I know that you all say they got good sister-bond and long lasting relationship?! So, there never fight or jelously? among 2 or 3 girls? or one group gang up other group within the sisters??

3. Since this is long-last relationshp among sisters, do you (for those that experinced) have best friends outside of the sisters? like, do you have time to hang with them or all your time belong to either classes, work, and sisters??

4. Last a stupid question.. for instance there 20 girls, so for chirstmas or any hoildays (gift-giving) you got to GIVE all or more sisters?! I know it's like exchanging but still, IT's lots money to spend!!! If you buy one sisiter better bc u get along with her, i am sure you all sit around together and open gifts together ,, then when others see you give them something cheapr, they prolly not too happy.. SO, What if u are poor, i mean college student are already poor .. then, xmas, bday and w/e else got to gifts exchange!!?

Okay, sorry that more than 4 questions .. but these qs are wandering around in my head... I plan to join so I hope i get some answers before ..thanks again!!

people are still people... that is all i have to say.

[Guest lackluster]

Let's break it down:

- Asian Awareness: I don't know about your school... but here in California, the UC's (with the exception of UCSB and perhaps UCSC or UCM [?]) are largely comprised of high percentages of Asian bodies. Now... Im not saying there isnt a need to expose the asian cultures out there... what im saying is that I havent seen them delivering thus far. Clubs like VSA, JSA, and KSA/KASA are doing a better job at it than asian sororities and fraternities. How much of that budget goes towards that raising asian awareness goal?

- Family and life-lasting bonding: I definetely see how these organization foster that sort of environenment. But... im still trying to figure out the need for high monthly fees, humiliating pledging processes (case in point: KDPhis, Lambdas and pineapples), and exclusive membership (case in point: why do they have to turn down individuals who want to be in it on who knows why). I still don't understand why would they close down their doors and selectively undermine the will of certain rushees (who by the way may be very well be full heartedly willing to join the organization) on guidelines that may be based on pre-conceived judgements and closed minded expectations?

- If you knew I didn't particularly enjoyed partaking in drinking activities, avoided pornographic partying events, came from orthodox religious backgrounds, or even had a homosexual orientation would you choose me to be part of the fun too? Is the Asian greek system adequadely crafted to unbiasely select individuals who dont necessarily share same ritual interests, but possess traits that could open up new realms of friendships and character building experiences?

- I also feel that asian sororities/frats are definetely selective against people who cannot afford to be in these organizations. Not everyone in college has their parents paying for their tuition. why should a person who's on financial aid (perhaps on a full scholarship due to financial difficulties) be exempt of the wonderful experience that you speak of? I'll tell you what. Sororities and fraternities arent for everyone. They aren't for people who can barely afford an education, for people who juggle 2 jobs and a full load, for people who don't have enough time for frivolous social events (though im sure they would make the time for meaningful fellowship time), or for people looking for spiritual guidance (as my church pastor has experienced first hand in college).

I myself have never been part of an Asian fraternity (though I've been to several parties), but i can honestly say that I certainly didn't need to be part of a fraternity to do everything you did. I've been an organization president. I've made life-lasting friendships in college. I've openned my horizons. I've participated in Asian interest and awareness organizations. I've done a lot of community service. I've done my share of partying, drinking (with moderation), and stuff in the past. What I see Asian frats/sororities doign is fostering segregation within a particular cohort.

I'm not accusing you of being part of somethign completely incoherent. I see the potential for the things you talked about, and YOUR organization is probably delivering that (though sadly enough, we cant speak for everyone). You have your own interests, values, and ideologies. Im sure because you had a great positive experience and wonderful things to share, such as the leadership and friendships you've made. More power to you. I'd love to see people like you proving that the sterotypes associated with asian frats and sororities arent all true. It's too bad the organizations I've seen so far don't live up to these expectations.

wow nicely said lol

damn i wish you can do my essays.

i always thought of frats as a gang

bunch of guys hanging out like family

do you not receive enough family love at home?

i also feel as if frats and soro are meant for lonely people

rich lonely people who needs temporary friends and fun.

but thats just me. but i believe some frats and soro are pretty cool. it depends.. right?

btw they take 700- 1000$ from you, what do they use that money for?

[Guest zhangzheng]

generally they are like clubs, but just try to be like other sororities as well, with some sort of hazing... lol

[Delster]

I think some people here should read more about frats/sororities and what their aims are. It's not 'buying friends'. If a club works better for you, good for you, if it's a frat or a sorority then there you go.

The main point of those organizations is that it's a worldwide organization, it's a networking thing. So where ever you are in the world, you'll have the support of someone whether it's a brother/sister or through other means (i.e. employment opportunities and such). Fraternity and sororities were and still is an elitist institution; thats why you have that price tag, 'exclusive' activities and processes - it differentiates thee elite from the other people. Universities were first made for the elite, of course they had to differentiate once others started getting into it. It's that root that people have an issue with, but that's what it is. If you don't like it, that's fine but don't be ignorant in your opinion about it. There's a lot of stereotyping going on both sides here and that's just terrible.

What in the world is an Asian interest frat/sorority? I've never come across the term, maybe it's because I'm in Canada. But it just sounds like a load of ethnocentrism to me.

[Guest Sl1ckb00ty]

Honestly, as a member of an Asian-American Interest sorority I can tell you that it is not for everyone.

Just go out to rush and if you like the girls then go for it. Just forget about all of the rumors and the misconceptions. Yes, you are entitled to your own opinions but you can't really say anything unless you are part of it. Before joining, I viewed Greek life very differently. Each organization highlights different things (i.e.-leadership, scholarship, AA awareness, socials, community service) and have different personalities within the org. If you don't click with one, rush another one! It's not a bad thing to rush many different sororities.

About the whole "buying friends" fiasco... in my sorority, we fundraise so often and successfully that our dues aren't even that much. It varies by organization and also by the actual chapter itself. I know for damn sure that I can't afford 800 dollar dues. We're all college students here, some of the rumors and the misconceptions that I've been seeing are just crazy.

JUST RUSH AND SEE FOR YOURSELF =)

[Guest Meenuh]

I was pledging a sorority but I stopped because it just wasn't my thing. A lot of the girls I knew from highschool ( they were older ) and when I did dp everyone was really trying to get me to stay. I chose worrying about my future and going to school rather than pledging. At first I started pledging because I thought it would be character building. The more I thought of it .. it was pretty stupid. No offense to the people that are a part of a sorority or frat. The people are nice but it just wasn't my thing. They tell you to do stupid things. Basically if you like to party then go for it. Partying really isn't my thing. It's time consuming and takes money. In the end I thought to myself .. after I cross then what? The same thing over again except you're on the other side having people run and greet you and you're the one being rude and yelling at pledges. Not my thing. The whole sister thing creeped me out too. There is no way people can love eachother THAT much. I do miss the people just not the experience. Like everyone says .. greek life is not for everyone and you don't need to join a sorority or a frat to meet people. My friends constantly made fun of me while I was pledging too. They said I joined a cult. lol.

Edit: Don't be fooled during rush. lol. They're SUPER nice but once you start pledging they just get worse.

[Guest r0ckstar L0ve]

The first part is to answer the four above questions:

1. Asian sororities generally don't have a limit, they usually extend a bid to those that they see will fit in.

2. I hate to say this but in an asian sorority there is drama, jealousy, all of what you stated. One reason for this is because it is a group of girls, and you will fight!

3. Once you cross, your social life is almost completely the sorority.

4. Some sororities don't have this, and if they did it would be like secret santa, just getting one gift.

Some of you might think that some of my answers are a bit harsh, but let me give you the TRUE facts and tips on rushing and pledging and asian sorority.

1) ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS know what EXACTLY you are signing up for. Never ask if they will "haze" you because the answer will always be no. Technically, hazing is illegal but they will never come right out and say it. But, sadly to say most mainstream asian greek organizations will haze you.

2) Rushing is completely different from pledging. During rush, your entire relationship with the active house is completely different than what it is during pledging. You are on an equal level when you rush, you are completely inferior as a pledge.

3) Expect to make a HUGE time commitment. If you plan on pledging you better make sure your grades are amazing and that you have great time management skills. Do not go in thinking it will be easy.

4) Pledging is MENTALLY, EMOTIONALLY, and PHYSICALLY straining. I will not name them, but the largest asian sororities all have the same pledging format.

5) If you want to be extended a bid, all i can say is mirror who you see. These girls judge and scrutinize you EVERY step of the way. They are judgmental and talk about you and all of your flaws throughout the entire process. Be VERY aware of what you say and how you interact with actives. If anyone tries to tell you differently, they're lying.

I have so much more to say to those who are thinking about rushing, but I will refrain. I can answer any questions anyone has about the pledging process.

[Guest Lady Violette]

I have so much more to say to those who are thinking about rushing, but I will refrain. I can answer any questions anyone has about the pledging process.

oo i would like to know more about pledging. how long do they usually take before you are accepted? what exactly do you do? i have seen people in those banana suits and gorilla suits but those are frats. i know it's serious stuff that takes a lot of time and energy but not sure what they do o.O

[Guest allatonce]

I too want to join a sorority, but my cousin pledged for one and when I asked her about possible hazing issues she just declined to comment. I forget which one she was in though... my good friend joined a well-known asian interest frat and when I asked him about the same issue, he told me to go and 'experience' it myself and all the 'good' things in life when you 'go greek'. < so totally trying to divert my attention away from the issue. LOL