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Omgosh, @iamenn - I laughed so hard when you commented that Siwon is the wall. GOOD ONE! hahahahahaha
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Do we have ELF's here? I honestly haven't heard of Super Junior until meeting Siwon through Liu Wen with We Got Married. ELF's, if you guys are in here, whether as contributors or silent supporters/readers, know that you all have our support. Super Junior has some of the most down to earth guys I've ever seen in a male music group. Their incredible brotherhood and love for their fans is obvious and heartfelt. I especially love how much they share and express the love they have for their parents and family. I remember watching the youtube video of Eunhyuk throwing a house warming party (coming from humble beginnings and saving up to buy a house for his parents) and invited SJ and their parents to his house to celebrate.That is what friendship and love is all about. Also, Super Junior's vocals and songs are good! Some are so upbeat and then there are also the romantic and soothing ones. I've been listening to their upbeat songs when I'm working out at the gym now!
I came across a few articles about how they came about and please correct me if I'm wrong but articles I've read spoke about how SMTown hasn't given Super Junior the fair amount of promotions and support that they would give other artists under their management? Politics happen everywhere and whether or not the minimal support from SMTown is true, please know that you have our support here.
I read in some comments that Super Junior is currently in second place for 'Choice International Artist' category for The 2015 Teen Choice Awards, run by America's FOX TV. I've just voted for them and will do so everyday. I believe there's only 1-2 days left to vote. Please go show them some love and vote.
If you're a shipper here and have a minute to send your support to Super Junior and ELF, please click and watch their Youtube video - every view counts (I think they have to or hope to hit 6 million views by the weekend):
If you'd like to vote for Super Junior, please click here: http://vote.teenchoice.com/ and search for "Choice International Artist" and vote. It literally took me 5 seconds to vote.No matter who you are shipping and supporting, we're all here as a family and your family is here to support you, Super Junior and ELF's. xoxo
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For those interested in watching SuJu on MB Stardust. Thank you so much for the subs, @sapphiresubs!
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Great pick up on that video, @liddi. This boy's a worrier.
Even before the show Liuwen has awesome taste in bags and has plenty of her own, so I wouldn't be surprised if they all belonged to her. Just google "liuwen's bags" and you'll get an even bigger array than what's featured on the show
Bags and clothes aside, she has fantastic taste in ear rings too! I continually check out her ear rings and they are always so unique. Often understated but classy.
Selfie with Leeteuk, Kangin and Zhou Mi
Out of the brothers, she had already captivated 4 (Henry with his moon eyes was incredibly cute and funny) during the show.
What comes after wouldn't be hard to guess. This girl is exceedingly easy to love.+ Donghae!
How he stood next to Siwon during the concert and pointed/waved where Liu Wen was sitting. Hi! do you have a link/clip of this?? thanks.
@Liddi actually shared this with us, so thank you Liddi! Please view it here: http://www.miaopai.com/show/OifcBGJds-ORQ9DP6MDahA__.htm
Sigh, no more new episodes so we're just scavenging on Youtube for a glimpse of them working.
Hm, is that Liu Wen's manager in this video? It looks like her manager also helps her out with her touch-up and make up!
Liu Wen is so beautiful.
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Great pick up on that video, @liddi. This boy's a worrier.
Even before the show Liuwen has awesome taste in bags and has plenty of her own, so I wouldn't be surprised if they all belonged to her. Just google "liuwen's bags" and you'll get an even bigger array than what's featured on the show
Bags and clothes aside, she has fantastic taste in ear rings too! I continually check out her ear rings and they are always so unique. Often understated but classy.
Selfie with Leeteuk, Kangin and Zhou Mi
Out of the brothers, she had already captivated 4 (Henry with his moon eyes was incredibly cute and funny) during the show.
What comes after wouldn't be hard to guess. This girl is exceedingly easy to love.+ Donghae!
How he stood next to Siwon during the concert and pointed/waved where Liu Wen was sitting. -
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Wow Jiwon is quick. She pretty much liked it as soon as it was up.
Think that cute emoticon with love in their eyes reply by Jiwon, is in response to the 3 cherry blossoms that Liu Wen captioned the photo with
Thanks for sharing her latest IG update, @kitkatz23.
So sweet of Jiwon. From the earliest days, what Siwon hasn't been able to do openly, she's been the one to step into the gap.
Couldn't have expressed that better. #teamJiWen
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Selfie with Leeteuk, Kangin and Zhou Mi
Behind the scenes credit to http://blog.naver.com/hanbokyoon/220394387202
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Only Liu Wen could look that good wearing what looks like a piece of transparent napkin on her head. Seriously - she can wear a lamp and she'll STILL look flawless.
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Liu Wen's walk starts at 2:25
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Here's some hopeful thinking!
Well, since Liu Wen is back in the U.S., could there be a chance that she will attend KCON in LA? Or even if she's not attending KCON, she could totally fly over to Los Angeles to hang out that weekend. The two can explore California together! We'll just have to wait patiently to see if the two will have some updates from sunny California in two weekends. -
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What a coincidence that i just googled Stella Kim like an hour ago. I had a few questions about SW and Stella relationship but i restrained myself from mentioning them here at this particularly sensitive of time when everyone seems very doubtful about Shiliu relationship after the show. But now since you guys mentioned her, can I ask that their relationship is really Over? I mean they had distance relationship for a long time and then breakup and getting back together until 2013 which means their relationship was quite on-off for a few times? Thats is normal for any real life lovers
My opinion is if SW and Stella really broke up, SW would somehow holds himself back from having another long distance relationship.. So thats why sometimes we saw him a bit acting in the show.
But well who knows "the heart wants what it wants", esp for a beautiful soul LW, who can't love her for any reason?
I dont think a long distance relationship would be a big issue for two people who are mature and serious about their love for each other. Long distance relationships are difficult but with unconditional trust and communication, love knows no bounds.
Siwon and Stella have definitely broken up and it was due to trust issues. It was an issue that they also publicly posted with indirect messages to each other. Stella tweeted with something that it was a surprise to her that she found out you lied (you = Siwon). I think Siwon responded with a post on his twitter that that most important part of being in a relationship is trust and if that trust is not there anymore, then it is the end. A lot of people could see that their relationship sounded pretty rocky.
Definitely a very ironic coincidence that the two are located in New York. From what I've read in the past, Siwon and the ex gf dated for like 5-6 years but considering that it's been a long distance relationship and those were the prime years when Siwon was working very hard, they probably rarely saw each other. It seemed like the relationship ended poorly, too. It was along the lines where the ex gf assumed Siwon was lying to her and he wasn't, I think it was just a lot of trust issues because Siwon was getting really famous and popular and we can see where the ex gf could've started getting insecure and wary of what Siwon is doing 24/7. It seemed like Siwon and his ex gf lacked a lot of communication because they eventually ended things through passive-aggressive messages on Twitter.
This explains why he asks Liu Wen if she trusts him (episode 9) and also mentions many times how important trust to him, Liu Wen's answer made Siwon's heart swoooon! I mean, c'mon, his facial expression says it all. This also brings us back to the huge talk in Episode 5 where Liu Wen and Siwon had a heart to heart. If Siwon didn't hear it verbally from Liu Wen in regards to what her feelings are for him, he was going to request to have their segment of the show end because he didn't see a point in continuing the program without real feelings for each other. During their talk, Siwon brings up how before, even if he had a girlfriend, if people asked, he'd tell people he didn't have one (which happens a lot among celebrities - a lot of factors to consider, etc.) and although he was in a relationship before, he wasn't proud of it. So Siwon said that's why he is so grateful and appreciative of this show because it makes him really happy to be able to meet a fantastic girl like Liu Wen and being able to proudly tell everyone that she's his girlfriend.
Both Liu Wen and Siwon are truly the most considerate and thoughtful people ever. From learning that Liu Wen had called WGM's producer to thank her and the crew late at night, to the couple surprising a crew member with a cake. Knowing how considerate they are of other's feelings, especially towards the people they love and care about, I feel that they are only waiting for a better timing to officially announce and share their relationship openly with the world. If they are only friends, that is okay too because maybe timing isn't here, yet. If two people are meant to be, a powerful force in the world would always bring them back together - just like how fate has brought them to meet each other.
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Not sure where I found the willpower to not watch the final episode until I finished reading everyone's comments and posts. Everyone's posts were so insightful. It really gave me an interesting perspective before starting the episode. It seemed like there were parts of this episode that did not live up to everyone's expectations. However, it was easy for me to have a positive mindset before I hit the play button - mainly because we all know Liu Wen went to support Siwon's concert
.To my understanding, the scene that seem to get the least positive comments was the glass church part. I felt that this part also showed the most sensitive and raw emotions from both Liu Wen and Siwon. Although a lot of viewers did not like the way Siwon came about so eager to leave but it was only because he had a huge surprise + private concert in store for Liu Wen. His abrupt actions remind me of episode 2 where he was fidgeting and trying to come up with excuses for Liu Wen to leave his car - only to pop his car's trunk filled with balloons and gifts for Liu Wen. His monotone and what appears to be emotionless words may have hurt Liu Wen and some viewers but they were definitely unintentional!! It's the same concept and action he used to surprise Liu Wen in episode 2 with the balloons in his car
so I hope that helped reassured everyone that the scene may have seemed bitter at first, but it was all good and positive intentions behind it. I can't imagine how hard it was for Siwon to keep a straight face and to hide everything that he worked on for Liu Wen (coming up with quotes and captions for his photo album, preparing the private concert - these little things speak volume for the love that he has for her. And yes, this man sure knows how to give his Queen heart attacks and and then kills her with romantic surprises - each and every time, lol. But that's what they say about couples who are madly in love right? Can't live with them, can't live without them. In regards to Siwon's caption for the "If we met each other earlier... like seventeen.. *smiley face*" - this part was super cute and not as negative as posts that brought up Siwon's past ex., etc. Remembering from what he said in the black room, it's really Siwon's perspective of Liu Wen and that this is how they would look like as a couple if they knew each other back in high school. They would be one of the "popular and good looking" couples that everyone would envy (this was from his own thoughts during the interview in episode 10).
For his caption, "So lately, I've been wondering who will be there to take my place when I'm gone. You'll need love to light the shadow on your face.... could you make it on your own." In this quote, I feel that it expresses Siwon's heart for Liu Wen so much. He knows Liu Wen is capable of taking care of herself but for Siwon, he may feel much more pain knowing that there is a definite 2 years that he will be away and cannot physically be there for her due to his military obligations. This hurts Siwon the most because he wants to be the man who can always be there for the people he love and in this case, especially for his woman. Knowing Siwon, he probably already made plans to have friends and maybe even his sweet little sister to check in on Liu Wen for him while he's away at the military. From their Guam trip, Siwon shows that he is a man who is not only thinking 3 steps ahead of everyone, but 10 steps ahead. At first, especially starting with episode 10, some of his actions caught me a bit off guard such as the one-arm-hug, etc. but definitely got a positive perspective from @Doradora1984 and @mywebfoot's thoughts in regards to how his hugs could be from his consideration of having "manner-hands" or for visual aspects (we discussed this on page 238 and 240 for anyone who wants to read it, lol and no, I am not crazy and do not memorize page numbers. I have the memory of a fish. I back tracked in case anyone's new to the forum and missed these great perspectives from Dora and MyWebFoot. Is anyone rewatching their 'documentary' from episode 1 yet? Our precious @Liddi, we know you have been!
I am guilty of this myself. It's pretty impressive how well Siwon knows himself. This is something I'm trying to learn to do as well because lately, I haven't been too happy at work and have been trying to find my own passion, etc. I find that Siwon knows himself so well because since the beginning of the episodes, he told Liu Wen that he knows people around him would get tense/paranoid and ask what's wrong if he appears too serious or cool - and that's why he makes fun of things from here and there.
Siwon is right. Every time he appears to be a cool guy, like with his one-arm-hugs, it makes us get all worked up and question if everything is okay and turns us all paranoid and bipolar, lol. But really, Siwon is just so poised and knows exactly what he's doing. This makes me realize that from episode 10, he has already set his mind and know that he will do everything he can to continue his relationship with Liu Wen after the show. So although everyone may view the episode as a finale, to him, he already knows it's only the start to the Siliu (Pomegranate) fruit salad party. That's why he was not as emotional as the males in other WGM episodes, except for when he sees Liu Wen tearing up or when Liu Wen shares her feelings with him. Her words get to him every time. Maybe this is also why he wanted to run out of the church because he knows he would tear up if he reads Liu Wen's letter right there and then.
Rationally (and not being delusional for once) observed from all the actions and things he did for Liu Wen in Guam. Making a scrapbook and coming up with the perfect captions and quotes take a lot of time, heart and effort. Some may say that it's all in the producer's script, but really, Siwon and Liu Wen's feelings and subtle gestures for each other can never be scripted. Sort of like, the producers are there to provide two strangers the opportunity and setting, but the effort, timing and preparation is really up to the two person's feeling for each other. Siwon definitely seized the opportunity. This still holds true, they both are lucky but luck doesn't just happen. As the old saying goes, "Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." Siwon gives an impression that he is very strong minded and disciplined - not surprised knowing that he came from a strict father as mentioned in previous posts and interviews. Only Liu Wen can make him weak (definitely in a positive way, such as putting his guard down and calling his Father when Liu Wen was in emergency need, etc.) something that possibly never crossed his mind that he would do for someone else. Siwon left the church saying "you're a strong woman, I am a weak boy" - another powerful insight to Siwon's inner feelings. Liu Wen's love does wonders to him and Siwon's love does the same to her.
Often time, we can get caught up on the tiniest things and forget all the positive things that someone does behind the scenes for a person. Siwon, you make us so proud. Liu Wen, we love you to the moon and back.You know how when you're reading a book or being able to pinpoint a favorite part of a show/movie? I find myself loving every single episode of Liu Wen and Siwon's documentary of their love! I think every episode was well done and it made a beautiful start to their new, "Hello". Seriously, loved the subtle but powerful meaning behind Siwon and Liu Wen introducing themselves again to each other. This marks the beginning and continuation of their journey together. At least we know for sure what they did since the show ended... Liu Wen flew to Korea to attend Siwon's concert!!!!!! Cheers to many, many more happy memories in the making for Siwon and Liu Wen! Now, patiently waiting for Siwon to release that one photo that he kept. Maybe he'll publish it to his instagram??
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@Nila.A.1409 thank you for sharing SiwonLiuWen's IG post!
Here's the direct link to Siwon's studio version of the Jay Chou song he sang to Liu Wen.
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Um... is that why Liu Wen recently took a photo with a bunny?! Because bunnies LOVE carrots..
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Thanks @stanncie for the comprehensive info abt SuJu... yes time flies so fast unfortunately soon they cannot be categorize as "junior" anymore.. there will be others BB with younger generation rising in the industry... ... i hope they will all settle down well with a good career after SuJu.. ciayo Guys!
We know Siwon has an opportunity as a producer coming up! Maybe in the future, [Entering door to delulu land] he will start a production company and become a director and Liu Wen will be his film's production stylist and actress.
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Liu Wen's greeting from London!
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Quick impression from scanning tumblr gifs on Radio Star:
SiWon looks pretty serious throughout the show. I mean more serious than usual and more cool than usual. I am mentally comparing it with his last Radio Star appearance with SJ and it's maybe it's just shipper disease... but he looks a little distant and I felt tension in him when the 'model' word popped up. He knew it was coming. Then he did this thing to half cover his mouth, like telling himself to shutupshutup. I know someone who has a similar physical reminder to himself when he knows he shouldn't say anything at a meeting, even though he wants to. Teukie rescued him with GB remark. Or maybe GB is their code name for LiuWen.
For the longest time, I've felt like Teukie and SiWon bond over relationship issues. Too long to explain why now, perhaps another post.
Good job, Teukie!! Leeteuk is truly a great leader, brother and friend.
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Seriously, what are the chances of this happening?? This was before they met. Siwon and the Dragon Blade crew was promoting in Taipei on February 12, 2015. I know there were other images shared about this before but in case anyone want to see the video:How things work in life and love is quite interesting sometimes!(starts at 12:25) - you'll also notice how Siwon's Chinese has dramatically improved since after meeting Liu Wen
Here are also other footages from @yyalee_2015
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Ah, the beautiful Liu Wen is on H&M's (USA) main page. Now, let me go support and buy everything. Jk, the wallet would not be too happy.
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I think this is the question from Radio Star asked the SuJu members..
Lol!! Thank you so much for sharing the translation with us! That was hilarious! Love how Radio Star edited the video when they showed the Suju brothers hysterically attacking Siwon with questions. This time though, Siwon totally set himself up! He rolled his eyes and looked like he was fighting so hard to remain calm and sway the guys from imagining his model* cough * obviously Liu Wen* nakey.
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2. SW not hugging LW with both arms - when I see images of him just hugging her with one arm, I just think it's because of their closeness in height. LW is about the same height as SW. I think hugging her with one arm just makes it look less that she's hovering over him, at least to me. From the past episodes, when they are sitting down, and height is not as apparent, he does hug her with both arms. Just my interpretation!
Almost forgot to mention. Dora, awesome share in regards to Siwon's "one-arm-hugging" in episode 11 because I'm sure that bothered many of us. Especially from a man who loves to show affection, it made us a bit crazy because our delulu mind want to see him hug her back tightly with both arms and swing her in the air! Lol, okay, over exaggerating. Not.
But that's such a great interpretation! Siwon is always so great at paying attention to the smallest details. Not sure why I didn't mention this earlier but recalling back to episode 2 where Siwon and Liu Wen had dinner together after Siwon surprised her with a trunk full of balloons and a new dress to wear. When Siwon helped Liu Wen to her seat, he motioned her to sit on the right side of the table because of how Liu Wen's hair was parted. Sitting on the right side, the camera would be able to see her full face. This really helps us reason that the one-arm hugging was probably taken into consideration by Siwon for visual purposes! Genius. You are a genius, @Doradora1984!
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@bibidep @allnaturalcrunchtime_stv For all it's worth, here is the translation of the Chinese-translated words in red from the Korean articles on LA PERLA and Liu Wen:
Choi Siwon's woman Liu Wen, is LA PERLA's international ambassador... sexy1st paragraph introduces the LA PERLA brand... which has become extremely popular among Korean actresses.
Liu Wen is LA PERLA FW15 campaign model, and this is her 3rd time as ambassdador. Liu Wen herself loves the LA PERLA brand.
China-born model Liu Wen, has participated in many international brand activities, and is an international supermodel. Recently, her pairing as a couple with SJ's Choi Siwon in China' version's WGM has attracted a great deal of attention, and has become a hot topic of discussion in Korea.
Liu Wen's fabulous figure and urban style has won her many female and male fans. As a LA PERLA model, her image and sexy charm has attracted the attention of the consumers.
thank you so much for finding this @bibidep and thank you so incredibly much for your generosity and speedy translation as always, @liddi!
Siwon, just when he thought he couldn't be prouder of his girlfriend (official or not, I don't care!).
Woohoooo, more travels for Liu Wen to Koreaaaaaa!!!!
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Hi, Everyone!
I have been silently lurking this forum for soooooooo long =) You guys are awesome - thank you for sharing all the pics, links, and videos.
I think WGM and WGM-esque shows are quite enjoyable to watch, although I usually feel pretty bad for the couples towards the end. They sign up for the show, get somewhat emotionally attached to an attractive colleague, do romantic things, then have to say goodbye and not see each other in their routine schedule. I have always watched these shows with caution because at the end of the day, their "job/objective" is to create a chemistry and demonstrate what love and marriage/dating is. However, I do not question the validity and genuineness of the couples - I think that part for most of the couples is real and I appreciate those couples who continue to stay in touch and foster some sort of friendship (examples: Henry and Yewon, Heechul and Puff).
It's clear now based on her attendance at the concert, that at the very least, they are really good friends who support each other in their respective projects. And that in itself makes me sooo happy =)
I just wanted to comment on a few things:
1. Religion and Class - I remember reading a robust discussion on this thread about LW not being Christian and also her class status. My now husband is an extremely devout Christian. When we first got together, he said that he had concerns about us being serious because I was not Christian. I was 21, the thought of marriage was far from my mind, I wanted to have fun - so this was A-OKAY with me. I am from a lower middle class family and he is from a wealthy background. Not SW's family wealthy, of course (I WISH THOUGH hehe!). He is Korean and I am Vietnamese. When it comes to love, at the end of the day, parents want their children to be happy and I don't think that, especially in the case of SW and LW, where both parties are successful in their own right, that beliefs in a different savior (or no savior) or how each family accumulated their wealth would change anything. I have been with my husband for 9 years. His parents adore me and appreciate the hard work and success I have achieved by my own right and two hands through blood, sweat, and tears. Anyways, this is just my thought! I hope I don't cause offense to anyone. This is not to say that SW and LW will have the same experience but I just wanted to provide myself as a "success" example??
2. SW not hugging LW with both arms - when I see images of him just hugging her with one arm, I just think it's because of their closeness in height. LW is about the same height as SW. I think hugging her with one arm just makes it look less that she's hovering over him, at least to me. From the past episodes, when they are sitting down, and height is not as apparent, he does hug her with both arms. Just my interpretation!
Anyway, I just wanted to say HI and THANK YOU for sharing your posts, thoughts, and everything 16 couple! I love it here and I really enjoy coming to this thread.
Can't wait for Friday! It's like I'm watching a Kdrama but SO MUCH BETTER.
Aww, @Doradora1984 - thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us! It was a joy to read
. My best friend's fiance is also a devout Christian when they first met. My best friend always believed there was a higher being protecting her. Long story short, she found her religion through her now fiance and had her baptism earlier this year. She's a Christian not because of her husband but because she also truly believes in Him, which is the most important. I'm not a Christian, but I believe in karma and that there is also a higher power and that everything happens for a learning and positive reason. This has helped me and my little brother grow up with an open-mind towards anyone - whether with the same beliefs, background or not.
At the end, if Liu Wen and Siwon are brought together by fate, there will always be a way for their love to naturally work itself out. If anything, I am sure Mr. Choi (Siwon's Father) will most likely step in and remind them of never giving up on igniting even the slightest sight of flame.
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OH MY..
after 3 months and 10 episodes, liu wen finally found the courage to say "love" to the man who jumped before she jumps
to the man who holds her hand and make sure everything is alright for her... U GO GIRL!!!!Go have fun with your man,my wen darlinggg... u deserve that!!!
i feel like Heaven is smiling on them and saying "finally these two is together"ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .. tell me how to move on with my life after fridayy????
honeyyyyyy, seriously - when you figure out how to move on with life after friday, please share with us all!!!!!
[know you won't be alone cus you have us all on here! :D]
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What comes after wouldn't be hard to guess. This girl is exceedingly easy to love.
How he stood next to Siwon during the concert and pointed/waved where Liu Wen was sitting. 
|WGM Chinese Version| We Are In Love - BF Choi Siwon |SUJU| and GF Liu Wen |Victoria Secret Model|
in shippers' paradise
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Hi @shawie829 I honestly wouldn't look too into the word, "Devil". They do not mean to use that word literally. From my understanding, it's more of a figurative word they chose to use as the music video is quite intense (in terms of their dance moves, setting, ambiance, mood, rock ballad/music instruments used, etc.) and they might have used that word to describe them as men who is madly in love - hence, using "devil" to intensify how dramatic their mood is for the album, possibly. I would see it as how the movie with Anne Hatahway and Meryl Streep was titled, "The Devil Wears Prada". That movie was not about devils, it was a movie about a very successful and confident woman who was an editor for a top fashion magazine and a recent college girl with big dreams wanted to land a job with the company, etc.
For this album, it was more about a celebration of how far they've come as brothers (10 year anniversary!) and the album holds some of the best songs they've ever worked on. From the new music video, if we were to compare it with their older videos, it tremendously shows how much they have grown and matured. Possibly, using "Devil" is their witty and sly way of announcing to their lovers (aka, their fans, ELFs, etc.) that they better not forget them even though they may not appear in the media as much (due to members on military duty, etc.) because they will be back. etc. Hopefully this personal interpretation helped. Definitely do not read too into the words
There's more light to what things may seem sometimes. Also, yes, Siwon is a devoted Christian but with lyrics, again, it's not entirely up to him to say "no" to something, especially when the songwriter wasn't him. Also, we believe Siwon didn't look too much into the word either and only saw it as a witty way to describe their future comeback, etc. because knowing how kind Super Junior is, they would never intentionally use language that would promote negative meanings.
EDIT: Please refer to @liddi's correct interpretation: "Based on the translations, the word devil refers to lethal, a lethal charm that the girl in question holds over the guy. According to Lee Teuk, the song is talking about a guy who is falls into what the subs refer to as infernal love, which I presume means the guy is tortured by the control the girl has over him."