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19 minutes ago, realistic2280 said:
saw ep19 yesterday and i know why viewers are peeved with SM's death. After all the talk of her power, and she just ended being stabbed!
Crazy writers.
If they wanted her blood to awaken the dragon, they can just cut her hands for it, but for her to be stabbed! Crazy!
I'm sure LSG knows viewers reactions seeing the script, hence he said he have done his best for the drama. Havent broadcasters ever learn that viewers likes happy ending and not crap ending for them to reap more monetary benefits from the drama end? Haiz...
Ive read the ending on dramabeans, dont feel like watching it but wanted to see MaWang's reaction on seeing his son... sigh..
Don't watch the ending ep 19 is good enough haha
9 minutes ago, YourHighness . said:Big ending was open because they couldn't show that the younger guy was a look alike of the older guy. Also they were wary of letting the younger idol "act" so kept him in a coma for the whole show. Besides all the plotlines were tied up.
Hong Gil Dong was history though wasn't it? It couldn't be changed. Hwayugi was fantasy and the end result was supposed to be all of them becoming deities(even the opening title showed that) which was not achieved..that's why I have a hunch that the Hong sister kept it open ended. But nothing is certain so they gave an implied happy ending..whether we will get to see it or not in S2 is another question.
I just see a very lazy writing for ep 20. What's the purpose of making OG lost his memory and a day with Sunmi's wandering spirit trying to make him remember? Pfft what a joke
they could have done so much on that on ep to follow the oringal ending of JTTW but they are just like doc whatever to fill in the one hour episode.
an open ending for season 2 can be ended with them becoming deities with their mission not finished yet as the evil in the world is awoken again
i have never witnessed such a lazy writing seriously
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7 minutes ago, YourHighness . said:
I firmly believe the writers kept it open ended in case there is a season 2 but not right now..maybe after a few years..1-2? Hong Sisters never keep a plotline open..but they did with Hwayugi..many infact and deliberately..I don't think it was an accident. Honestly, if they can't cast the main three than they rather not make S2 at all. I can just imagine the end like I want and be done with it.
Big ending is open though
so does Hong Gil Dong where the otp ran into the fire. We viewers don't know if they are alive or not
Should have learned my lesson but Master Sun tricked me that they must be good now. So i put my heart and soul into this amazing otp but look at what they did
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12 minutes ago, stargazer187 said:
You know I think the writers are saddist!they shouldn't write things like love again! Tch..
Hong sisters love romance. Thats always their genre but they are sadistic. They are on top of my black list right now
24 minutes ago, crazyoverkdrama said:I did the bravest thing watched ep20 today. Now that I have calmed down a bit, I realized that it is indeed all about MW and SOG's journey. If you notice, the demons were the only ones remaining. All the extras (JSM, BJ, Summer Fairy, and the Dragon Prince) are just part of their journey. They are not meant to be there forever. Even with SF, who should have disappeared, was only there temporarily. May because I calmed down that I was finally able to analyze the whole plot in a more rational view. I was just disappointed that OG did not do anything other than giving her his eye, but if you analyze it, he already formed a plan even before he met her at the tower, and that is giving her his eye and fetching her again. Maybe we will not get a sequel (too bad), but at least we know that he will not stop until he gets what he wants. And that is another journey for OG.
So maybe, we should have instead rooted for OG's journey in the beginning, than focusing too much on the OTP. But it was so easy to focus on SM and OG because of their chemistry that we forgot it's a journey, and not a romance between OG and SJ.
Just my opinion, though.
Hmm the journey isn't just about Mawang+Monkey king though?
in the original JTTW , it's all about their journey together . The monk holds a very important character in both of the journey and relationship with SOG much more than Bull demon king
so sunmi isn't an extra ( Buja, fairy, and dragon are).
The main characters should be the ones on the main poster fighting together to save the world (Hong sisters seem to have abandoned and forgotten the main point of the story uurgh). In the end Sunmi and OG should be rewarded ro become a deity while the other character like Pk and MW got theirs too.
But now they all ended tragically.. except OG who will def get his bride back
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The main selling point for this couple is the chemistry and love story anyway
lol can you imagine another actress playing jin sunmi with that eyes and way of speaking?
The three main casts are just irreplacable.
i'm not just talking as an OYS fan but Jin Sunmi image is already too deep implemented on OYS lol
Not just inetz but knetz will be in rage too
It's a diff case for CITT. There's a rift btw the main actor,+webtoon auhor vs drama pd+writer.
This webtoon fanbase is very big and the fans already have their casting set from the beginning hence this movie is made to ease the loyal fans anger of the webtoon, Justice for the webtoon author, and the male lead whose scenes got cut abruptly.
So obviously now they went along with the nation pick casting.
Viewers are already so invested in OG+Sunmi love story (LSG and OYS). If they don't care, they won't be this enraged . People on Navee are still asking for season 2 with the otp
But i really doubt that LSG, OYS, or CSW might want to do another season 2 (if there is one).
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The chances for S2 are really slim or may not be possible at all
LSG been busy with his Movie promotion+variety show and same goes to Oh Yeon Seo for CITT movie.
that's why Hongs should have written a good ending (i really want to curse them so bad)
i still don't understand why are they doing this . I know that almost all their dramas writing aren't perfect but the ending always manage to save them.
You can say Big ending is one of the worst too but that drama wasn't successful and didn't receive lots of love . You can't say the same about hwayugi with good ratings and the 503 couple who are so loved by the viewers.
They have also hinted lots of happy y ending for example is the grandma owner shop saying the fate can be changed, the baby, the wedding promises, third time is a charm, etc... but the ending is just so disconnected from all 19 eps.
It's not even sad but just ridiculous.
Sad ending is ep 19 when Sunmi died and OG lyinf there broken while saying "the world is as it is but you are not here"
that sad ending will make people cry and in pain but ep 20 gave us viewers big expectation of what might heaven do after they complete their mission and hopefull that the couple will be able to overcome their fate.
I know most people care about the otp (me too) but isn't Buja ending so wtf as well? I thought she will at least get to be back for her last moment but her life is just full of suffering, didn't meet her mum, murdered thrice by her killers, can't confess to PK, body stolen, turned into a monster, and perish just like that. She can't even meet her mum in the land of dead? No chance of reincarnation?
*i'm speechless and angry to the core*
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1 minute ago, annie1234 said:
Cheese in the Trap should've been released before this drama. How can I see her with another male lead..
And also, LSG is doing Vagabond now? so fast to appear in drama again. I can't see him with another actress except OyS right now
can Vagabond producer just cast OYS as female lead???? I love to have him back on screen, but I think he needs some rest for now. He was super busy with Hwayugi and Gong Hap promotion, and Jibsabu as well. Please take care of yourself Seunggi ssi~~
Me too i still can't see them paired up with anyone else at the moment.
please rest first both of you...
if only i get a full closure ending.. sigh...
I won't be hurting this much
i can at least say goodbye with a happy heart
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15 minutes ago, cleoLsg said:
hi hwayugi soompiers !! it’s been too long since i posted , but i always lurke and try to read as much as i can . and kudo’s to all of you because this is one rare soompi forum without fanwars and shade thrown around . we all loved the the whole cast and the 503 otp . i watched ep 19 and 20 episode raw version only . i understand bit of korean and after reading recaps it’s like i need sometime to deal with wtferrry of ep 19/20 .
hong sisters totaly lost it in ep 20 . episode 19 was epic despite crappy cgi . but killing off sunmi by accidental stabbing by spinless KDS is so stupid and samjang don’t deserve such richard simmons . and she just dies and only son oh gong gets reinstated in heaven and they send sunmi to earth for 1 day because their oh gong is being pouty ? i mean thats so disgracefull how they treat their special human samjang . don’t they need to reward her ? end rant about sunmi
episode 20 the oh gong amnesia is fine i guess because we got the namsan tower scene because of that. i cried my eyes out T.T but don’t know why they have to make ep 20 60% filler with flashback when they could have moved from namsan tower scene to oh gong getting her back and demons all reunited at their wedding looking back fondly at summer fairy , dragon prince and buja . btw they killed off all female’s in the show . no bigdeal .
i too got weird vibes witn bts and oh yoen seo. but she was sitting with seunggi at wrap up party, and i’m sure it’s just bts teams fault for making this super weird with their wtf bts’s.
The bts is just so abrupt
but some fans say "eyes never lie" lol
that's why there's not bts btw them lmao
but yeah the cast are having fun for
sure but they never give a chance to show that. The bts is always the same as the scene shown in the drama.. what's so fun about that?
i'm not mentally ready to see them pair up with someone else so soon *whimpers*
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8 minutes ago, ildiz said:
I found this fan-made ending!
SM picks up a lovebell in the underworld. It starts to ring!
Guess who is there for her!!
http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=hwaugi&no=24008&page=1
"I told you I will come find you, Jin Sun Mi."
It's so easy to make this kind of ending lol
such an easy scene to shoot.
this would have given a full closure
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41 minutes ago, butterflyeffect said:
It’s not for Black Bird, it’s for a Korean web series if I’m not wrong..but isn’t this more than twice now that the Hong Sisters are being accused of plagiarism? lol
If it’s true, i feel so bad for the cast..
and I’ll be gladly over that mess of a final episode.
Serve them right. The casts did their best and got the deserving praises so i don't think they are affected at all
i thank them for introducing me to this OTP with the best chemistry ever . This couple will always be no1 in my heart but Hong Sisters are on my blacklist now lol
just dropping this bts fmv lol. They don't hve many bts but even their chemistry behind the camera is def there .. they can't even look at each other eyes
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9 minutes ago, YourHighness . said:
I dunno, I felt weird when they made SOG say "However you change" I wonder if they meant appearance like her face or her status? If it's her status, I don't mind but if there is a S2, I want LSG and OYS as SOG and JSM. It's useless to have a season 2 otherwise.
I still think the BTS was weird..she was barely shown interacting with others too. Other than the words we didn't see the closeness between the actresses or actors with OYS. We were shown how all the other "Demons" in the show were close and joking and laughing but with OYS they were very stingy.
You are right about NC, she was the same in every reincarnation but wasn't she a deity turned bad? Maybe they can twist the logic a little and say that as a human JSM could change?
My heart sinks just to think about it but it's not outside the spectrum of thought. I just hope it's her status..even a Fairy would do like you mentioned.
That is true. SOG did go to get JSM in the morning itself. She went to the Land of dead at night and he packed up everything the same night, said his goodbyes in the morning and left to get her back. He couldn't even wait for a day. It makes me sure that if not for the memory loss, JSM would have been with him by then. I guess he was without his memory for a week at the most, but from the state of BJ's rotting body I would guess even less..maybe 2-3 days? Didn't SBR once say that BJ will rot away in a day without SJ?
Oh really? There's a petition? That's great! I hope it succeeds and we get a continuation with LSG and OYS as SOG and JSM. I can't help but think that all those open plotlines(SOG as the owner of Mgroup, JSM death not being public, Frosty's punishment and why, PK, OJ etc) was because of their plan for S2. Isn't the Odyssey supposed to be very long? Besides the end result was supposed to be everyone turning into deities and basically no one did. They are all still on that journey and promised to meet later on again.
BTW if there is a S2 then JSM will definitely not be just a bait and a helpless human so OYS should have no reason to reject the project if offered unless they never offer her it. In that case the situation between them will be clear to us.
You are not wrong. I thought the same when they made it sure to talk about her change and SOG recognizing her no matter what. If her face was not going to change, would they have made SOG say that? Would he have needed to give her the eye if her face was not going to change?
There was a bts of her having fun with LeeEl and an interview as well....
They are not crazy enough to change the crucial cast if there is a season 2 lol
the bts is just a mess. Look until now there is no bts or NG uploaded. They don't even show how LSG and CSW NG.. they keep showing the same scene in the drama with few ad libs only
Sunghyuk didn't even appear in the bts not even once
usually when a drama ended, they will give lots of bts/making/ interview but nope nope nope
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There is a very very slim chance for a season 2 actually. Hence Hong Sisters should have written a good ending to leave a good and fond memories for the viewers
Everyone is angry and baffled by the ending
and now there is a news article pointing out how similar the drama is with Black Bird (?)
http://m.entertain.naver.com/read?oid=213&aid=0001021874
Hong Sisters are under fire again..
hence they should have known better to satisfy their loyal viewers
now everything they do will be criticized
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Naaah don't think too much about it. OYS seems to be having fun on set . She herself said it and the way LeeEl, Lee se Young, and OYS interact already indicate that they have become really close. See the staffs are close with her too
as for LSG and OYS , i can see they are trying really hard not to cause any rumour/ scandal. One datinf scandal already made them got dragged for years.
the bts is a mess in general. Even in the last ep they didn't have one? I noticed they have never showed any NG too.
i don't think Sunmi change in terms of appearance. Even Nachalyeo who reincaranated for the 9th time is still the same unless you are reincarnated as animal/ tree:/ flower. It's reincarnation rule 101
Sunmi is still in dead land aka paradise. OG gave her his special eyes that can see beneath the truth so ino matter what happens , even if her memory is wiped out she will know that whatever OG tells her is the truth. He chose to go to the underworld because he needs ro take her asap lol. This monkey can't live even a day without his Sunmi...
in what form we don't know but it may means that she is not a human Sunmi anymore. She may become a deity? Demon? Fairy? Who knows?
season 2 is unlikely because of these star studded cast. Although knetz are petitioning for season 2 too and they are keen on casting LSG and OYS again. I'm gonna leave this on their hands lmao
This 503 couple is receiving lots of love.
If there is really a chance for season 2 with the same cast i think it will be a good chance for her. After this drama there is an influx of new members in her fancafe everyday so does her Weibo.
Because of this drama she is getting lots of international fans too. I'm really happy cos her last dramas like Jang Bori and SOGC are successful in Korea but obv not inetz taste
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2 minutes ago, annie1234 said:
LI prefer not to have season 2 if they decided to change the casts. Even if they kept LSG and decided to change OYS to another actress, I'm sure they will get soooo many hate about that.
It won't be Hwayugi if isn't Lee Seung Gi and Oh Yeon seo. it won't be Geumganggo couple or 503 couple if isn't Lee Seung Gi and Oh yeon Seo.
This time The definition ONE TRUE PAIRING is so accurate for Lee Seung Gi and Oh Yeon Seo aka Son Oh Gong and Jin Sunmi
i'm gonna camp in this thread till my heart is ready to let go (don't know when...)
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What an odyssey withou OG lee seunggi and Sunmi OYS?
what the hell is that? Who will beat these two chemistry? That sounds absurd
people want season 2 because of this couple that's what i'm reading on Naver right now.
people want LSG- OYS pairing back with a happy ending. I can imagine the cursing from knetz if they ever change the otp. They've been saying no chemistry is like them
and OG going to kidnap Sunmi from after life is because he can't wait for he hee to be reincarnated or whatever. He wants her immortal hence with giving her one of his eyes
OG loves Sunmi because she is sunmi.
i'd rather watch a diff drama if they change the actress or Sunmi suddenly change into a typical bubbly cute female lead
actually just give me 20 -30 min special to finish their story then i'm more than happy
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3 hours ago, ladysaotome said:
This. All of this.
Can't help it cos of their chemistry i got so involved like i'm witnessing a real couple that i root for a happy ending so much.
Not to mention my heart really wants Sunmi to be happy. This girl life is so heart wrenching.
She is too good for this world...
she deserves all the love but in all her life she has been treated like a bad luck , bullied, and taken for granted. My comfort is she is loved by the powerful god who gave her his everything..
Even all the love gather from the whole world won't amount to how much OG has loved this girl
*see now i'm sobbing again *
was travelling to work today and saw a travel agent banner "Travel Odyssey". Then i went *sob again... what's this drama doing to meeeeeseeee
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My wirhdrawal symptom is so real sigh
Wednesday would be the day i would be super excited for the preview
feel so empty without otp to look forward to
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This drama would have been super epic if it was preproduced or at least got more time to shoot
maybe it's the only thing Hong Sister can give with the tight filming and budget constraint in just one week
sigh...
still one of my fave drama and the best otp ultimately
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41 minutes ago, ziarama said:
I think endings in the fantasy genre often are left for the viewer to reflect on subjectively. So, it really is how I viewed it and what I personally find to be a happy ending. With that said:
In Black, he is wiped out entirely from everyone’s memory, she lives happily, just to remember him when there was one-minute left of her life. Him being forgotten by everyone, after everything he went through, felt unfair. So i was dissapointed and felt robbed with the ending.
In Goblin, he is left all alone, waiting for her, for god knows how long. And we know she will be reincarnated again, so their happiness is short-lived. And the Goblin doesn't have much to say about their fate, I felt like, so all he does is wait and live forever. He will never interact with his best friend and sister again. So for me it was a very sad ending.
In Hwayugi, OG found love, that in itself is a happy ending, a deity that lived for so long without love and to finally give love and get love was beautiful. He drove off with a smile, letting us know he’s going to get Jin Seon Min, not a reincarnation or SM, but the actual JSM and we know that the heavens can’t control him (so mission accomplished). I also got the sense that she was a deity or something else, because even OG couldn’t figure her out and she didn’t really clarify what she had become either. And we know they have a baby waiting, Ppalli ppali!
I think much of my initial disappointment with the ending was that I was expecting them to have a “human” ending. But OG was never human, and I don’t think JSM was meant to live a human life. When she was “visiting” she seemed content only thing she seemed sad about was OG´s pain because of the geumgango. And for the other characters it was business as usual, meaning that what we saw was a chapter in their supernatural world. And MW got to meet his son and they will be in each other’s lives and he is truly friends with OG now, so a happy ending. Bu Ja’s ending was sad but she started of dead and at least her killer was killed, so sort of a happy ending.
To add on Goblin have to live forever while human can only be reincarnated for 4 times. So if she dies for the 4th times then that's it
hwayugi is leaning towards more happy ending cos in one way OG himself is a diety and he has to get whatever he wants no matter what esp if it's Sunmi who is the whole universe for him. The disappointment is we don't get to see him taking his bride lol. Why waste time on losing memory part?
Anyway hong sisters have went ddorai with the last ep so we can't do anything about it but thank you for giving me the best otp , best love story, and best chemistry ever
i'm gonna remember all the beautiful love except the last ep
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18 minutes ago, YourHighness . said:
I have this nagging unfulfilled feeling that won't go away. I feel so sad. BTW do you guys realize that the start of the journey began with JSM breaking out SOG and now their new journey will begin by SOG breaking out JSM? Poetic but still pretty unsatisfactory for me.
Why, Hong sister, why?! Why couldn't they just give us a tiny glimpse of SOG with JSM in the car to show that he successfully broke her out of the Land of the dead? Did they really want to keep it open ended for season 2?
A friend was telling me that the Land of the dead is actually like a lobby where you wait for your turn, so that the heavens can calculate your deeds and decide if you go to hell or heaven? That's why JSM was called back so easily to remove the GGG. Is that true or is the mythology different in Hwayugi?
And I'm curious did she and will she forget about SOG when she goes back? Why did he urge her to remember his name?
I just think that Sunmi is in a paradise and OG is going to bring her/ kidnap her whatever it takes.
we are talking about SOG who is a deity as well. Him putting his eyes on her means he has a plan bto bring her back
..he wants him to remember his name no matter what just in case her memory is erased? Like maybe the painful one ?
Hence if OG didn't damages his memory he would have done this since the start
5 minutes ago, huhuhahahihi said:Seung Gi came late to the wrap up party. He can choose to sit anywhere he want but still he "choose" to sit next to Yeon Seo. Proof that you cannot trust 100% what's shown in the BTS .
I will take whatever makes me
happy. Yes yes yes
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5 minutes ago, madinked said:
That doesn’t look lik OYS though.
That's during his bday party i think not the wrap up party
i remember seeing the bts where she and other crew singing and bringing a bday cake . Then it got cut off abruptly as usual
idk maybe just shippers being delulu too hahahahaha
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I'm just gonna depend on those shippers hawk eyes lol
i'm afraid of shippers and i don't want to become one but this drama unleashed the crazy demon shippers inside of me.
esp after that ending, i may need a real life happy end.
first of all mianhae, gonna follow that shipper account and live in my delulu land to ease my pain a bit
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15 minutes ago, annie1234 said:
In the original story, Sam Jang and OG awarded of divinity as their reward in the end for accomplishing their mission. But, since we know that the Gods of Heaven in this drama were so... hmm.. I can't even describe them. haha.. no wonder OG doesn't want to come back to Heaven. Anyway, in this story, if OG helped SM escaped from Land Of The Dead, even though they accomplished their mission saving the world, I guarantee the Heaven in this drama won't award them with divinity. They probably will be locked up together in Five Element Mountain.
I guess OG will be super happy to be alone with SM forever. Lmao being locked together in five element mountain with sunmi?
he will never want to go out lol. He gonna stick to Sunmi like an annoying glue
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Yes. Sunmi is a character with virtue, passion, and elegance hence i love her so much but the ending is such a joke for her lol
still cried at the Namsan tower scene though. Both actors crying acting are top notch
i notice these two have super sexy voice. The scene when they spent the night together with Sunmi's whispering "i love you i love you" and OG answering "um". Even though the camera is not on them but hearing their narration made my heart flutters so much
nah this drama is diff from Big. It's s successful. A cable drama hitting 5-6.9% is very successful already and they receive lots of love if not for the ending
@dramaalpaca another Hong sisters drama??? Noooo.. i will pass. The trauma is too big. I put my heart and soul into this otp drama and they did this
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How wonderful if the amnesia plot is taken out .
OG gave Sunmi his eyes when she was dying in his arms, then Og start his crazy plot to kidnap Sunmi away from the underworld with MW's help lol
He successfully erased her name from the book and she is an immortal now.
Hong Sisters ??? Wth are you doing when you wrote the script for ep 20? You are two persons righr?? Both of your brain think the same way?
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My heart sinks just to think about it but it's not outside the spectrum of thought. I just hope it's her status..even a Fairy would do like you mentioned.
[Drama 2017-2018] A Korean Odyssey/Hwayugi 화유기
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Very very lazy writing indeed, all is well because everything is leading to a happy end with OG comes into the human world to fight head to head with Kang dae sung,etc but because of the ending everything seems pointless
don't tell me abou AoY . Season 2 open ending broke my heart to pieces .
it took me months to get over that drama then Hwayugi came along . 503 couple took over the Ssongsunmin couple in my heart so obviously this drama wrecked my heart much much worse
Anyway OG is going to the land of dead to take his love withing 1-2 days so there will be no change in her form anything . Unless God turns her into a flower or animal lol. People who died and went to paradise stay the same.
Reincarnation too. They will have the same face unless they decided to reincarnate her as a male this time and obviously the ending isn't going to that route. That's my comfort
Big writing was horrible anyway but the two dramas you mentioned above are awesome with satisfying ending. Hwayugi couple top all hong sisters love story they have written so far but the ending is just the worst