jackieusa

May 16, 2019

2 hours ago, kimmortal said:

YX is like a father figure to WJ. From the beginning he always has a proud face every time Wuji does something heroic. And he has the best reactions to all romance related events! I like how the camera man always pans to his face when it comes to Wuji’s love triangles!

I also want to add, watching Joseph dressed as a beggar is so cute. He’s so doe-eyed and innocent looking because of his large eyes.

Hahaha...I hope you don't mind me posting gif. Can't get over with the series yet.

May 16, 2019

8 hours ago, kur4p1k4 said:

@PutriSing It's not even about the "lovey-dovey" part. ZR always act like 'Woe is me' 'Shifu ordered me this ordered me that, I don't know what to do' f*** you! Nobody cares, grow up! ZR doesn't earn the tortured soul bulls*** Even Hamlet was not this insufferable.

Even remembering all the bad things she did she never even acknowledge it's a bad thing that she CHOSE to do. Just because YL is not dead it's still attempted murder, you still go to jail for that. She only always remember the oath she made to MJST, what will happen to her, it's always about her, what a psychopath.

Also in eps 40 my god when WJ wants to tell ZR that he met ZM, she still dare to say I'll get angry if I want to or not, jfc, what a pyschopath b***

Yes, that scene was good, but the WBB scene was weird I think there should be more explanation how it happen that WBB want to trap ZM. Yukee is a good actress surprisingly. I would say 41-42 is one her best, she got a few scenes alone no talking but somehow I don't want to fast forward it and when she was talking with FY was interesting how they bait each other.

Talking about never acknowledge all her bad deeds. LOL.....look at that stuck up attitude Flapping her sleeve at WJ twice.

May 16, 2019

1 hour ago, penforella said:

Don't you guys think that in ep 41 when FY said MM name WJ almost immediately looked like he lost his soul. Superb acting from JZ

Yes, his superb acting. I love repeating this scene.

LOL....all his subordinates knew about his feelings for ZM, their reactions are to die for specially YX.

May 16, 2019

Nice MV to shared

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av52016098/

May 15, 2019

WJ teared up for MM collection.

Spoiler

May 15, 2019

7 hours ago, Yitian_fan said:

@jackieusa Joseph has a new drama? Do you have any other information? Be fun to see him in modern garb... but I get the feeling I'm going to be growling/barking at his leading ladies for awhile because none of them will be Zhaomin....

This is his new drama going to air on 05/19. I think he only playing the support role though.

Photos credited Joseph's Facebook's Page.

May 15, 2019

I think Joseph posted this on his Facebook's page. He probably promoting his new drama.

Handsome Fella

May 14, 2019

3 hours ago, bluesky888 said:

Sad for ZZR as WJ never cried for her.

LOL...sorry to disappointed you, but WJ did cried for ZZR. He's such an emotional guy.

May 14, 2019

1 hour ago, deminni said:

Thank you Lauren! Joseph is so pretty to look at *_*

This give me inspiration to make GIFs for all WJ and MM's crying scenes. Oh man..that gonna be a lot of GIFs. I remembered WJ teared up a lot.

May 14, 2019

37 minutes ago, AppleBanana said:

I must’ve missed it but what ep is the second gif crying scene? Was that right after minmin disappeared?

Did you mean this one? Episode 37 after they killed all the Yuen's soldiers before they left Snake Island. WJ cried because he thoughts ZM send those soldiers to kill them.

May 14, 2019

1 hour ago, LaurenPanna said:

https://m.weibo.cn/1702569562/4371555935370567

This person found that under a page intro, the show was stated to have 60 episodes. Some team member disclose that the dvd version will be out.

Public are now requesting for cut scenes to show up.

https://m.weibo.cn/5416490500/4371970924104607

Sharing my favourite 1986 HSDS

Wuji call min mei 33 times

Just realise he also had that teary eyes

I wonder why HSDS 2019 production teams are so stingy. Why can't they release the DVD uncut version already or let other country like Hong Kong or Korea release it? Since they don't have to follow China's restriction rules. I heard the other drama 'Goodbye My Princess" are adding the uncut scenes in the Korea's version and even Taiwan will also show the uncut version.

May 14, 2019

8 hours ago, kur4p1k4 said:

I'll just put these, did anyone realise this lol?

Before ZM 'died'

In front of ZM's tombstone

Also WJ just throwing stuff left and right

Can you explain why he put his hair ties upside down after he thought ZM is dead? Is that the way to express his mourning for her or just errors by the dressing teams?

I noticed that he dropped her handkerchief when I watched it the second times. LOL....He probably doesn't need it anymore once he found her.

May 14, 2019

16 hours ago, kur4p1k4 said:

Some of them, it's quite impossible though since it doesn't fit ZWJ character in 2019 version. The biggest difference in the 2019 and book version is Joseph's WJ is a steely upright man (as c-netizen like to characterise him lol) He's very upright in treating all the girls and have quite a pure thoughts.

All the c-netizens was laughing and complaining when in the last episode WJ ask ZM to stay one more night, and they only went outside to just be together look at the star and talk lol, rather than doing what all the people were thinking when a guy ask a girl to stay one more night

Such a pure and upright boy that's why no.1,3,4 is unnecessary

And for me in this version the biggest problem with WJ-ZM is not from Cheng Kun or outside foes, but always from their own people disapproval, Ming sect/Wu dang uncles/ZM's family. That's why I'm still sad every time I see RYW got killed, he approved of them and got killed immediately *sigh* orz

So yah I think no.5,6,7 is unnecessary

No.2 I think they do shot it but it was not used, since WJ didn't come I think. It was implied in eps 45 when ZM was standing in the rain waiting for WJ, she said that she waited for WJ before but WJ didn't come. I was always confused with that sentence, since the only other time she might've waited for WJ but he didnt come is the execution scene, but it wouldn't make sense since she already accepted her sentence to clear RYW's name. But if it was connected with the deleted hotpot scene where ZM was waiting alone it made more sense.

Indeed, 2019 version of ZWJ is truly a pure and upright man. Funny I usually find this kind of characters in other dramas to be quite boring. But here I don't find him boring at all and enjoyed watching all his interactions with all the characters excepted for ZZR. LOL...I'm one of those fan who wish for something to happen between a man and a woman when WJ asked MM to stay for one more night. I still remembered my reactions the first time I watched that scene. I was thinking they better go back to that Inn and spend the night together to complete the brows painting ceremony and ditching all those Ming Sect. hypocrites. Oh well...let wait for you guys to write some fanfic for that scene to full fill our dirty minds.

Beside RYW, I think ZSF also approved their relationship.

Thanks for enlightening me about what ZM said during the raining scene. It's does make sense now. She was waiting for him at the hotpot place the last time and WJ never show up. This time she got really nervous he might not come back so she still waited for him even though it was a down pouring.

May 14, 2019

On 5/9/2019 at 11:33 PM, AppleBanana said:

You are so on point about this. She never received any consequences. She doesn’t even feel sorry for what she did. Arggh. And she got away so easily still with her position of sect leader and wj forgiving her. It doesn’t matter if yl is alive at the end because it still doesn’t justify her actions. The director or writer for zzr made her character kinda gray and let her off too easily. They try to make us feel sorry for her (which I don’t at all) and forgive her. Mehhh. Pass. I don’t quite remember other versions of zzr. Did she get off quite easily too? I liked the 2000 version where she lost her memories. And 2009 version she showed more remorse I think?

I know this version ZZR owe YL an apology for almost killing her and WJ owe ZM an apology for accusing her for murder. For those who read the completed novel and watched most of the tv versions, did WJ ever apologize to ZM for wrongfully accused her of the crimes at Snake Island. I just feel so bad for ZM, in the novel and all of the tv versions, WJ strangled her and some even slapped her on the face.

May 13, 2019

5 hours ago, kimmortal said:

Sorry to keep bombarding this forum with my thoughts, but I have nowhere else to express them. Who can I talk to? My coworkers or my babies? Lol

Reading WJ and ZR on the island was so difficult. First, ZR is a liar and hypocrite. Second, every sentence that comes out of ZR’s mouth is her comparing herself with Minmin at best, and at worst accusing WJ of having feelings for MM (granted, she’s correct). But my god, any conversation between them was always about MM or the hypothetical question of what he would do to ZR if she ever makes (read: made) a mistake. I know the reader is privy to only relevant plot-related convos of theirs, but it still seems like their whole relationship was always going to be defined by the fact that it didn’t work out between WJ and the other girls so that’s why the only option left was ZR. That’s not how you want to start a relationship lol.

I know some fans are still upset that WJ (either in the novel or in 2009’s series) was portrayed as only choosing MM because she was the “last girl left standing”, but it seems to me that THIS Snake Island moment between ZR and WJ in the novel shows what it would have looked like if WJ truly picked whoever was left, as if to tell readers, hey look Wuji settled for whoever was there and he was unenthused and reluctant. Compare that with how he ended up with MM, he wasn’t unenthused and reluctant, he was happy. Now, does he still think about the others? Perhaps, but it’s like relishing in a beautiful past memory. As long as he keeps it quiet in his heart and mind, it’s not a crime.

5 hours ago, sophiesyc said:

I hate, and hate when people said WJ only ends up with ZM because she is the last girl standing/left. Like come on he even said so in the novel that if he can’t find her he would rather die. I am ignoring the crappy ending lol.

This 2019 version really shows how much he also loves her. While also showing that she has her struggles and did not abandon her country/family to run away after a guy. WJ in the novel is such a player but kind of smarter than this tv version I think. Still I prefer the tv version where he knows who he loves, it’s just that because she’s Mongolian that’s why he kept pushing her away. I think at the snake island he already knew by then that he likes or have strong feeling for her.

I gave up reading the novel once I've the feelings the character of ZWJ is such a wishy washy guy, and a player. Didn't he kiss every girls in the novel?

No doubt, this version we can tell how specials he think of ZM when he subconsciously have the golden box with him all the time. At Snake Island, he knew he love her and only her not ZR, YL, or XZ. WJ never denied when asked if he likes ZM by XX. Even when JFPP said ZM is his most precious, again WJ didn't denied it. Indeed, because of ZM's identity he keep pushing her away. And then later he learned of her way of sacrifice herself for him and her family, WJ got even more scared to be with her. He really fear that she'll die for him. Due to ZR's schemes and godfather's order, he has to give in to the marriage contract. WJ probably think letting her go and marrying ZR was the best way out for ZM. After the wedding clash, ZM determination to gamble and he no longer able to hold back his strong feelings for her. WJ finally give in and decided he and ZM should face it together, protected their love.

May 13, 2019

17 hours ago, vicious219 said:

IIRC, the 86 version has this scene. Also the scene after the wedding where he says to her that she needs to repay him with her body for ruining his wedding. He's such a lecher.

How I wish this version include this part of the story where WJ ask MM to repay him with her body. Hahaha...it'll be so fun to watch JZ act the scene. I believe WJ and MM gonna be so shy at that awkward moment. But too bad in this version they make WJ's character too upright. Don't get me wrong, I still loves this version's WJ to death. Only hope he can take advantage of her sometime with some lecher words.

May 13, 2019

8 hours ago, chipz03 said:

Thank you so much Sophiesyc for the info.

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So, I've been dabbing more on fanfic writing, and I decided to try out a much darker fanfic . This is not part of the chronicles about WJ-ZM life after their reunion at the grassland that I had been posting before, but more like a stand-alone, one shot fanfic.

For the chronicles fanfic, I planned to add perhaps two or three more chapters, and these chapters should be more fluff and lighter/happier tone.

Please read the warning (in the spoiler) before proceeding, as this will be dark fic (sad/tragic story) and might not be everyone's cup of tea.

Peace all

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Warning:

One-shot, stand-alone fanfic. This fanfic is sad/tragic fanfic with major character death. Extreme Alternate Universe (AU) that do not really follow the canon timeline. Dark Wuji (perhaps even very dark Wuji for some), so if you are more of a stickler to the canon WJ, this might not be suitable . Some matured themes (not explicit, I think. Please don't ban me mod. If this is not allowed, I'll removed the post).

All credits of the characters belong to the relevant parties. I am just flexing some fanfic-writing muscles for pure enjoyment here

Set from the moment WJ found out ZM was still alive on the riverbank as he floated the paper lantern boat.

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What if Min-min took the arrows that were meant for her father and brother?

She had said that they would travel the world together. She had told him that she would be by his side when they journeyed the beautiful mountains, the crystal blue rivers. She had whispered softly in his ears that beautiful night when they abandoned all cares and just treasured each other’s company. When they became husband and wife.

That night, he found out that she was still alive. That her brother had plotted her fake death and her dad had given her an exit route. She had not planned to let him know of her presence or that she was alive. His stubborn Min-min. Yet, she underestimated his keen senses when it came to her. One sigh. Her one sigh was all he needed to let him know that she was nearby. That she was alive. His adrenaline rushed as he abandoned the riverbank where he had just floated his last paper lantern boat, bearing his hope to have his Min-min by his side, and frantically searched for her. Hoping that it was not his delirious fantasy. Hoping that it was indeed his sane reality.

He found her at the inn. Sitting alone in her room, her unlighted lantern boat in front her.

He remembered his euphoria when he barged into the room and saw her. There, sitting there at the table was his Min-min. His Min-min. Alive. In two big strides, he came to her. His strong arms pulled her tiny figure into his embrace.

“Do you know how much I miss you?”

That night, he blurted that question to the beautiful woman in his embrace. His love who had decorated his dreams with unending longings. But that night, he thought that those dreams would remain merely bad dreams. Bad dreams that would never haunt him again. That night, he thanked heaven for bringing her back to him in his waking hours. He held her hands tightly, never wanted to let go as they sat on the table. Her unlighted paper lantern boat was clearly visible.

‘Wishing husband was on her side’

A small smile appeared on his lips as he remembered the rush of pride when he saw her lantern then. He remembered his heart felt like bursting with all the happiness that he had so suddenly found again.

Her husband. She had considered him her husband.

That night, he lit her paper lantern boat as he wished to be by her side forever. As her husband. She asked him to paint her eyebrow as his third promises, and he promised to paint her eyebrow every day of their life.

But that every day of their life was far too few.

His mind wandered back to that night at the inn, when he gently kissed her. He could feel their heartbeats raced as he looked deeply into her eyes. Understanding filled them when he blurted the proposal that he had been dying to ask, the question he wished he had asked sooner.

“Marry me, Min-min”

He remembered whispering those words so softly in her ears that he feared she might not hear him. Until he met her wide bright eyes, looking back at him intensely. She was about to protest when he repeated the question again. Firmly. The quietness that befell them felt deafening for him, as he prayed that she would consent. He loved her. He needed her.

He nearly jumped in jubilation that night when she finally nodded. As quickly as he could, he rushed out to ask the innkeepers if they could get him red candles and a ‘shuang-shi’ symbol. Hoping that it was not too late to get them. And he remembered his joy when he brought those items back to her room. He thought that finally heaven blessed them to be together forever.

Together forever, he chuckled bitterly. These words had now become broken dreams that mocked him.

He remembered their simple wedding ceremony. In that room, just the two of them. That night, he gently pulled her to the bed, as he tried to ease her fear. It was her first time ever, and he hated to see the quiet fear and a spark of embarrassment in her beautiful eyes, behind her shy smile. That night, for once they finally let go of their hesitations, and just explored the happiness and pleasure they brought to each other. He remembered her trembling body as she softly called his name. A memory that had mercilessly kept him awake at night.

That night, he thanked heaven that he could finally be with his lover again. No, not just a lover. His wife. He felt a bit unhappy that he had to hurt her, and he promised to never hurt her again. To keep her away from harm.

'Promises that he failed to keep.' He cruelly reminded himself.

That night, they stayed together until midnight left them, and they talked. They talked about their reality. They shared their dream futures. She urged him to return to his sect’s military camp. She asked him to keep their union a secret. She told him that she would wait for him in Mongolia amidst his protests. He hated to admit that he was stubborn that night. That what she described was the best solution for them. For his safety, his reputation, his fights.

A cold laughter escape from his lips as he downed the wine in his hand. His safety. His battles. All she ever thought about was him. Yet, what had he ever given her? He could not even protect her.

The following morning, they had promised to meet each other at the hill before his Min-min left for her homeland. His wife. He remembered staying awake that night, feverishly carved a wooden box in likeness of the golden box she once gave to him not so long before. The broken box he had once treasured so much. The broken box that he had to throw away due to his foolishness in believing Zhiruo’s scheme. The broken box that he had to discard at his godfather’s insistence.

But that day, when they said their goodbye, his members found them. Anger flowed through his veins as he remembered the endless schemes those members had thrown at them to trap her. Even pushing them to get married. Those traitors.

But his Min-min was smarter than them. She had foiled their attempts, and she had outsmarted each and everyone of them. A small comfort seeped through the fury as he consoled himself that he never told those men about his and Min-min’s secret marriage. That he listened to his Min-min’s advice.

And yet, he had been the reason why he was staring at the cold wooden name placard on the table, surrounded by those offerings. His gullibility, his naivete had caused her untimely death.

If only he did not beg her to stay one more night that afternoon. If only he just let her go that day. If only he had never asked to meet with her father and brother. If only. So many ‘if only’ ran through his head.

His body went cold when he remembered that day when he had to say his forever farewell to his love, his wife, his Min-min. He felt his world stopped when he saw those arrows pierced through her small body. Those arrows that had been prepared to bring down her father and brother by his members behind his back. But his Min-min, his brave Min-min had taken those arrows, giving her father and brother an escape route as her penitence to them.

‘I won’t let you or anyone hurt my family. I, Min-min Temur, can do what I say I will do’

Her words echoed through his ears as he rushed to her. He desperately begged her not to leave him, to stay with him as he frantically tried to save her. Even though he knew it was futile, he could not stop. He did not want to stop. For if he stopped, that meant she was gone. That meant he had lost her. She had looked at him, her eyes filled with tears. But he could see her determination, her peaceful acceptance, her contentment of saving her family. Her love for him.

‘Wuji, I..have..no…regret’

He repeated her last words in his head, over and over again. He closed his eyes as he recalled her beautiful smile on her lips. That day, his wife had left him forever, and this time, she could not come back to him. She would not come back. That day, pain and sadness drawn him as he let go of a sorrowful cry like a wounded wolf before anger washed through him. A terrifying wrath filled every inch of his body, a petrifying fury that he had never felt and never knew he could ever feel before. A rage that had torn down all his self-control, that had pushed his immense inner energy to lash out against those people who had gone behind his back to plan such an abominable scheme. Those traitors who had killed his wife. His Min-min.

And for the first time ever that day, he was thirsty for vengeance. He wanted revenge like he had never wanted anything before. An obsession that he had never truly felt prior. He would make sure that each and everyone of them suffered his retributions. Once they had gotten no use for him. Once he was done using them. He had become cold and calculative. He had learned to scheme and to use them for his advantage. The battles were ending, and he could soon get his revenge. He would soon make the members pay for the scheme they had done.

“Very soon, Min-min. Very soon”

He told her name placard that had accompanied him through the nights. He knew his Min-min would not be happy with her Wuji now, but he did not care. He could not care anymore. That Wuji was gone. He had been nice before, but it only led to heartbreak after heartbreak. He had been used enough. He had lost enough. He had suffered enough.

So, he waited for his chance to finally assuage his thirst for revenge. His chance to make those traitors suffered the pain he had to endure.

‘Very soon, Min-min. Very soon’

Oh boy... I love it. Please continue this story, really like the dark side of WJ.

May 12, 2019

Those of you who are able to move on from this drama. Are you starting any new drama(s)? Are there any good drama(s) you guys can recommend, new or fairly old one? I want to start once I'm manage to move on.

May 11, 2019

15 hours ago, graceeedwardmom said:

Amazing.... You are so deep in the gutter of HSDS. You even managed to find this. Man, you gotta asked XZ about how to remove the blood stain. I bet WJ asked XZ to do it that's why XZ quite certain about how deep WJ had crush on our princess. XZ also the one who take care of ZM to heal the stab wound.

Kudos for you @jackieusa

I have managed to heal from this drama. I no longer rewatch the eps. Only sometimes still take a glimpse of wedding crash arc. But i still find our forum exciting because you guys still updating new stuff like Joseph new video about how he got the role. Thank you guys for our fruitful discussion on HSDS for the months. I'm so lucky i found you guys otherwise i got a lot to say in my heart when i watched the show but i don't know where to pour them.

LOL...Congratulations! happy for you. I'm still stuck in the limbo. Give me probably another week until I get really sick of it. I watched too many times of all the favorites scenes I almost can remembered there lines. Oh well, sometime re watching is rewarding too. I'm able to detected some details or expressions that I didn't see the first couple of times watched.

May 11, 2019

On 5/9/2019 at 10:25 PM, LaurenPanna said:

Wuji actually teared when he thought minmin send soldiers back to the island to assassinate them

Thanks for explaining this scene. The first time I watched this part I thought he teared up because he feels sorry for the dead soldiers.

Edited

I don't like this part of the story arc, hated ZZR so I wasn't paying attention.

May 11, 2019

I'm re watching episode 34 and just realized that ZM did take off her dress to wash off the blood stains. The white and green clothing handing in front of XX, those should be ZM dress. Right? No wonder episode 36 when they were on the beach, her dress was almost completely stain free. Lol...all this time I thought the blood stains just magically disappeared. Wow.. they do have some amazing stains remover back then, that a lot of blood on her dress.