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Hi there FD loves!
Why so negative? Hehe now let us all be positive. I myself have been like this a couple of times lately, but it'll just bring me frustrations.
As an idol, Leeteuk has to be silent or else. He knows the effect if he let's us all know what his terms with Sora is. There are a lot of crazy fans so yeah, too bad. But anyways, when I was watching Strong Heart with Jangwoo, and get to hear Leeteuk's perspective about the whole show, it quite dawned on me that his answers were a little intimate and somewhat reserved. That's when I realized till after watching last week's eps that Sora's mom was a fan of Strong Heart and Star King. I think that Teukie was careful with his answers because he was putting into consideration that Sora's mom was watching. Knowing that guy, he's worda were somewhat new to me. Lol what do you think Fd's?
I am hoping that these two would really date in real life. 찐 자. I mean I keep praying for it to happen. Hohoho and I would be one of the devastated people if they'd not happen. I wish Teukie would take a risk and come after Sora. It's kinda obvious she really likes him a lot. Teukie should be a man and get her, she's worth all of it. I pray they'd realize that they're perfect for each other and would take time to stop and think what they would be missing if they ignore it. If only I was cupid.
PS. I will be sending my wishes for the couple tomorrow at 11:11 am, Manila time. They say when you wish at 11:11, it would somehow come true. Lol. Not to worry, I am wishing and prayin for it, all at the same time.
I also, sincerely, hope that LT and Sora will become a real couple because they are perfect for each other. However, I also want to strike a clear balance between my delusional mode and realistic mode. If they don't come out as a couple, I still hope they will be wonderful friends in the future, but of course...my scale is tipped more toward them becoming a real couple.
@shymaldita28 As for LT losing affection for Sora, I don't believe this is true. It is just that they have become more comfortable with each other. The sparks and the intensive stare occur more often at the beginning because LT is still trying to discover his wife and get more comfortable with her. Once they got used to each other, the intensive stare slowly slip away to something more loving. Even Donghae said that they really look like a couple. A couple cannot always have an intensive love all the time; it is when they can still love each other when they are getting comfortable with each other and accept normality are what make a relationship last. And...who can forget the aquarium scene when LT drew the heart and stared at Sora. His eyes is not sparkling but the infatuation he felt for her is shown (He was practically glued to the fish tank). Also, the loving gaze he gave to Sora when she was crying, and the way he reacted in Strong Heart are evidences he likes her.
Thanks Mieru, for the reminder. I forgot the time difference and almost miss the boat.
Edit: Off topic, but incase anyone didn't read this yet, Allkpop tried to neglect Sora again by posting this article and neglecting to mention Sora in the title. http://www.allkpop.com/2012/04/kim-hyun-joong-poses-as-the-new-endorsement-model-for-centerpole#disqus_thread
It also misprint Sora's name to Kim Sora. The funny aspect of it is that many people, in the discussion thread, were more interested in addressing Allkpop's error and discussing about Sora, which the author of the article was trying to neglect. The best part is that there are fans who indicates that if Allkpop is going to misprint Sora's name, it might as well print her name as Park Sora instead.
Aren't fans amazing?Edit #2: I wonder, did anyone notice this. In episode 21, at the aquarium scene, LT drew a heart for Sora and she smiled back. At that time, I wished Sora would respond back to LT's message...and she did! Right before the scene cuts off to where the MC made the comment about Ju-on, LT was staring intently at Sora, and Sora was using her finger to write something back to him! It's too bad that WGM cuts off that part. Arg...but she responds back to his message and that is important.
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Hi, everyone. I just visited WGM Leeteuk and Sora website and DCKangsora has posted a FMV that Sora's fan has made for her in regarding to her two songs from DH2. The link is http://wgmleeteukandkangsora.wordpress.com/2012/04/08/fanvid-a-tribute-for-kang-sora/ . I hope this is not a double post.
It is a touching gesture since Sora was feeling so down with her DH2 performance. I hope she sees it so she will remain encourage.
And I agree with sqd66, I don't think LT's tweet is related to Sora but is directed to ELF.
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Ack...sorry for topping the board without sharing anything. Sorry.
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I wonder will WGM will start filming again after the general election occurs (this coming Wed) because I heard someone mention this previous before. I wonder will that affect the strike that is going on (hopefully the strikers will get what they want).
Thank you, everyone, for participating by posting your thoughts, videos, and pictures of Sora and LT. I'm just one of the fan of this couple, but I want to express my appreciation of all the post that are here because it brings me joy to read everyone's post.
As for the survey:
1) THE CUTEST ROLE PLAYING - Episode 7: When Sora tricks LT into agreeing to do the Batman pose. That is the first time that LT realizes how mischievous his wife can be, but yet he can't refuse her.
2) THE MOST MEMORABLE HOLDING HANDS - Episode 13: When they were walking back home after shopping. LT's conversation with Sora is the most important because he said that she is now holding tightly to his hand, while she replies it is more comfortable now. It is a new stage in their relationship.
3) THE MOST ROMANTIC GLANCE (EITHER FROM SORA OR LEETEUK) : Anytime between Episode 1-3. The way LT's eyes sparkle when he sees her is so special...especially when he was waiting for her to feed him and waiting for her to call him by his pet name during episode 3.
4) THE MOST ROMANTIC FEEDING: Episode 5: When they were in the car and they fed each other mochi. LT and Sora's smiles were really sweet.
5) THE MOST MISERABLE FAILURE: Christmas Special: When LT revealed he had to date secretly majority of the time, which Sora promptly asked him did he do that often. I love it when Sora called him on it due to her spontaneous jealousy, but suddenly felt guilty for it when LT was forced strapped to the lie detector again.
6) THE MOST TOUCHING MOMENT: Episode 21: When LT was comforting Sora when she was crying. The way he looked at her and the way Sora tries to appear strong--insisting she would stop crying--but yet show her vulnerable side of her to LT seem like they both are in a world of their own.
7) THE MEMORABLE REACTION OF MC: There are a lot...
Episode 19: When they are bluffing that they weren't awkward in their first meeting...and the MC said that they were extremely awkward.
Episode 21: LT and Sora were staring at each other through the fish tank and the MC had to ruin the moment by mentioning Ju-on.
Christmas Special: When Sora was saying when she thought LT looked handsome, one of the MC stood up and said that he couldn't stand it anymore and wanted to leave.
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Out of curiosity, I was just rewatching episode 21 and I noticed something. I hope this is not a double post, and I apologize if someone already posted this before.
When they were at DC house, LT wore a white with black boxed-outline polo-shirt under his jacket, while Sora wore a white tank with a gray cardigan (not button all the way) under her jacket. After they walked out of the house, LT suddenly wore a gray cardigan over his polo shirt. My question is...where did he get his gray cardigan? I don't think it is one of the couple gift from their fans. Did he intentionally bought one to match Sora?
Sorry...I don't know how to insert pictures so I can't visually show what I meant.
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Thank you, everyone, for posting all these wonderful news. I'll try to send something for their 200th day anniversary...I just need to figure out a way to simplify my words so it won't be too wordy (since I only know how to write in English).
This episode is the best! Both LT and Sora showed a weak side of them today, and both of them comfort each other. For a moment there, I was confused with LT's shy response toward Sora's hug and her leaning toward him. In the previous episodes, he was fine hugging his wife and putting his arms around her shoulder without being shy. Why is it that he is being so shy right now? I then noticed that when LT is initiating the skin-ship, he is normally not shy (his hugs, his arms around her shoulder). It is only when Sora hugs him or leans toward him that he suddenly becomes so shy. I wonder why is that?
Also...the pet shop is hilarious. LT is so afraid of all the reptiles but is willing to go there because Sora likes animal. I felt sorry for Lee, Teuk, So, and Ra because they don't get to see their "parents" due to the strike. It is funny how LT associates everything with children...even the interviewer was wondering what does his fish have to do with children...lol.
The best scene for me is when Sora cried and LT was comforting her. The way he looked at her was full of concern and love. The way he looks at her is like the way he looks at her when they first met. It is almost like he was discovering a new side of her when she was crying and falling in love again with her sensitive side. For those who said that LT doesn't care for Sora and only treats this as a show...please compare how he treats Sora in comparison to how he treats Sena when she was crying (or better yet, when in Hello Baby, he didn't treat his "wives" with so much attention when he made one of them cried due to his hidden camera trick). His eyes speak volume in regards to his feeling toward Sora.
I also notice Sora kisses LT via the iPad instead of just randomly kissing anywhere, hence, the kiss is directly given to LT...not to the iPad. For those fans who think that Sora is materialistic, think of this action that Sora did: she kisses the place where LT is so she is giving an indirect kiss to LT, and since she didn't kiss any random place, her kiss means she is not kissing the iPad to indicate she is grateful for the gift itself, but for the thoughtfulness of her "husband."
LT also kind of read her mind. Sora likes homemade gift. For her, the videos that LT took and the heart shape post-it can bring a bright smile on her face.
Finally, LT's jealousy is scary. His face changes so rapidly. His facial expression from happiness at Sora's revelation of her husband as her choice to controlled displeasure after hearing her say that Jinwoon was kind and cute was immediate and drastic. It was different from his reaction toward Choi Min, where he could still smile cordially. I hope this means that Sora means something more to him now than before. Even in Strong Heart, the mentioning of Sora as Jinwoon's ideal was enough to prompt some kine of reaction from LT. Unfortunately, when the camera pans toward LT, his expression changed into a laugh since one of the contestant points out LT's reaction to the audience before the camera pans there. What was his reaction prior to the camera will always remain a mystery, but it is evident he was upset when he heard that Jinwoon's ideal was once Sora. He even looks uncomfortable and upset when Jinwoon was asked to choose between Sora and Lee Ming Jung. Anyways...it got to the point I felt that Sora was treading in sensitive ground during this episode in regards to this topic and has to reassure LT to stop him from being too upset.
I apologize for my long rant. I do have to say, this is a wonderful episode to leave off before the strike takes its toll and before they start filming a new episode. But please...I hope someone is taking care of Lee, Teuk, So, and Ra.
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Thank you, LengSi, and Natali for posting up such wonderful news. I am ecstatic, yet worried.
So far, Sora has shown consistency in her response. Remember how she said that LT has become her ideal in the Christmas Special? And when she was given the choice to choose between JB and Jinwoon, she choose JB because a person must be consistent. She is consistent in her choice since she has stated that LT has become her ideal.
And I agree, I wish LT will start whipping his horse to start taking the first step..because as the fortune teller said, there is uncertainty in his part when it comes to starting a relationship, but he is improving. It's disillusion in my part since the FT prediction cannot be fully trusted, but I sincerely hope their relationship will blossom into something: the best result is that they will be each others other half, but it will be fine if they will become close friends.
I am worried, however, that this interview will garner more backlash for Sora. Some might say that she is using LT to gain attention again, after DH2 fails so miserably (low rating). Some anti will use this issue to attach her...and I hope that won't be the case. However, she will always have her fans support.
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Kshownow has episode 20 available for download. http://forums.kshownow.net/index.php
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Thanks, Hanyi, for the wonderful translation. Thanks, ary, for the cute gif. Thanks, angel, for posting the initial interview, and thanks, dzudzu for posting the translation. Thank you for making this day extremely happy for all the fans. It settles down a lot of my uncertainties.
I agree with viyra's post in regards to LT's silence. Having Sora saying that they still text each other is different from LT saying it. When Sora says it, anti still can make up excuses for Sora's claim (like the horrible accusation of her wanting to gain fame...etc). When LT says it, it is like their own idol dashes their dream...it is more detrimental. I think LT learned, from all those experiences, that he should refrain from mentioning anything that has to deal with Sora or his ideal type because he and Sora will definitely get backlash from it.
And I agree with lallinachan. I love him when he said he wanted to be the last man for the woman that he loves...but then he goes and make that joke about clubbing during strike time. I wanted to him him for saying that even though it is clear that he is joking.
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Thank you everyone for posting all these wonderful links and treats (gif, updates, links, pictures, etc). You're awesome.
Although this episodes does not feature our beloved DC, it is nice to hear LT sharing his dream wedding with Sora. It is also funny how Sora pretends to get mad when DH said that LT is bad at memorizing dance steps. Most of all, in episode 2, LT said next time they should dance together and he will teach her. The first time Sora dance was with Fighting Junior so she can perform for her husband. I find it nice, this time, Sora is the one who initiates her desire to dance...and LT immediately goes with her plan.
The DC really dominates the dance sequence...lol...especially the tango section. Did anyone find it interesting the MC actually said tango is the dance for lover and LT and Sora actually dance more naturally during the tango? Even during the couple dance, LT and Sora were struggling with waltz, but once Por una cabeza starts to play, they become more natural and starts to have more fun with it. For example, when LT was twirling Sora, he accidentally let her hand go. He reached his hand toward her, but was heading toward DH to get a tulip. But when Sora grabbed his hand, he immediately turned back, abandoning the tulip, to twirl Sora and continued on with their dance. I also think the orchestra intentionally switch from "Moon River" to "Por una cabeza" because it is much more funnier to watch them tango than to waltz.
And poor LT...Sora never lets him off whenever his expertise in dating surfaces and someone questions it. But I also agree with one of you who mentions that Sora never calls him out on his bluff when they have company. The only thing she always brings up is his dating experience, but other than that, anytime LT wants to bluff about anything, she goes with it when they are in front of company and sometimes praises him.
And although I am sad that the strike is preventing WGM from being filmed and shown, I do commend the strikers for their effort to stand up for freedom of speech. I am not that concern with WGM not being broadcast, but I am concern that LT and Sora has not seen each other for more than a month (as far as anyone can tell...any public hints that they met up), and I hope that they still keep in touch--although the recent SH kind of shows that LT still is feeling strongly about Sora.
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I don't know whether anyone posted this link or not before. Sorry if it is already posted previously. This is the link for Oct 17th Daejong award, where Sora is walking down the red carpet. On .29-.31, she did the V-sign for the red carpet interview. It is specifically for the mission because she raised her hand like she is waving and then changes it into a V-sign.
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Thanks for the news, kiminaeka and parkchaeyoon. It is depressing since its been a long time since DC has filmed together and met up together (publicly). I wish the strike will end some time soon. I know that many FD pointed out that DH2 is similar to WGM...I now hope WGM will not be like DH2 and pull a huge time skip on DC, even though a literal time skip is occurring right now.
Hanyi, you are right. Let's remain positive!
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Kpopfever has an article about yesterday's episode, in particular, about the trick that LT attempted.
http://kpopfever.com/2012/03/wgm-leeteuk-fusses-for-a-kiss-with-kang-so-ra/
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@Moielle: Thanks for pointing out that part, and I did notice it on the first run. I notice how LT was looking at Sora's hand, waiting patiently for her to finish unloading her backpack. When she opens her hand to him, he slips his hand into hers. The most interesting part is when she pulls his hand toward her and holds his hand with both of her hands. I thought she was trying to keep his hand warm...and I agree, it is a huge step on Sora's part because she never done this before. Also, she did the exact same thing during the roller-coaster ride, holding his hand with both of her hand. Sora was also the one who slips her hand into LT's hand when he was scared of the ride. LT had his head down and raised his hand to hold onto the bar. Sora slips her hand into his hand during that time. That is why, when LT raised his head, his scream/or fearful face turns into a smile of relief.
I agree that Sora is moving forward, but in a more affectionate way than physical way. She is calling LT "yeobo" and "oppa" more while LT is still stuck with Sora-shii. LT is moving forward in the more physical aspect where he is hugging her more and wanting a kiss. They are both moving forward, and I hope, after this strike and after Sora is done with DH2, they will be more comfortable with each other and their relationship, whether on screen or off screen, will take a new step for the better...now that LT should have watched the fortune teller episode. I also want to say, that it is interesting that Eunseo asks LT and Sora how they were like at the beginning when they were "dating" instead of using the word "married." It seems like the two of them are really treating this as an opportunity to know each other, date with each other, and finally fall in love if they can.
Leeteuk is lucky to have Sora as his partner, just as Sora is lucky to have LT as her partner. Sora is constantly wanting to do things that can help LT and is willing to try her best to make up for her shortcoming. LT is willing to accept her for who she is and is willing to respect her, waiting for her to get comfortable enough to move forward with their skin ship. However, it doesn't stop him from trying to get a kiss from her--in a passive way--whenever he can..lol.
@KQ188...I also can't wait for their honeymoon. I am a little bit afraid that they will revert back to some awkwardness since they haven't seen each other for a month or so since the strike (and LT admitted that they are separated even though they didn't want to). I hope that after DH2 is over, Sora and LT will get to see each other more because quite frankly, they don't have a lot of time left before LT start enlisting into the military.
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Thanks, 33ru_mieru, for providing the translation. HI5!
I wanted to wait for the whole translation to come out before watching the episode, but I got tempted. I find it funny that LT constantly trying to get a kiss from Sora....but always failing miserably. I also like the fact that DongHae calls Sora by Sora-Shii when he tries to catch her attention when LT was trying to get a kiss. It is normal because outside of WGM, Sungmin and the other Super Junior calls Sora, Sora-shii (when they are talking about Sora in Sukira...when LT smashed the cake on Sungmin's face...lol). It makes it sounds more natural instead of sister-in-law...where the concept of their marriage is constantly reminded, hence they are in a show...whereas, by calling her Sora-shii, it seems like they accept her as a friend or someone who is naturally dating LT.
@viyra: I also notice the huge gap between LT and Sora when they took the picture. I guess, it is not surprising because this recording didn't occur that much later than the blind date episode in which Sora still looked shy to hug LT (the scene they cut out). It took Sora approximately five episodes to get used to holding onto LT's hand tightly (episode 8 started the process and finally episode 13 she was holding his hand tightly). Hugging and kissing is going to take her a while. That is why, in episode 18-19, it is always LT who has his arms around Sora...not the other way around. LT also notices that Sora has her hands clasp in front of her before they took the picture. He looks down at her hand and decided to wrap his arms around her...since she is not wrapping her arms around him.
LT is always wanting to move their relationship forward, and I agree with you, that he should give Sora some space and when she is ready to move forward, she will. Also, the funny thing was that both of the mascots were hugging Sora yet none of them approach Eunseo. Donghae and LT participated in the slugging festival, yet none of the mascot dare to play around with Eunseo. And noticed how Donghae jumped in to "protect" Sora when the mouse kidnapped her, while LT was trying to make sure the other mascot was okay. Lol...Talk about fighting junior. Donghae was also the one who notified Sora that LT was being under attack by the snowman, prompting Sora to rescue her husband. LT and Sora can rest assure that Fighting JR are there to stop any other people from touching either one of them (LT or Sora) hence protecting Sora if a guy touches her and protecting LT if a girl touches him. Lol...
The roller-coaster scene was hilarious but it also shown how fast LT's fear changed into a smile and relief when he realized Sora had grabbed his hand to comfort him while his head was down. He was so scared that he didn't even notice that Sora had hit her head on the safety strap (when it released her) until he took several steps and went back to her...lol.
Finally...the best part is the part when LT and Sora was trying to cox the bird to mimic "I love you," but the bird said "Ya!" Hahaha...this is a fun episode.
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I've decided to come out of my 'silent' mode and place a comment into this WGM DC fan-thread.
It's truly impressive to see the devotion here for the DC. Leetuek and Sora seem to be happy, confident
people certainly deserving of the enthusiasm to be found here. Being a fan of WGM since Season 1 and
watching all of the various couples come and go, I must say that the DC couple just may be the one to 'break the mold'
and develop a real relationship when their WGM time is up.
That being said, I find it very disappointing to see the animosity being shown towards the inclusion of Donghae and Eunseo
in WGM filming, with particular, unkind criticism being directed at Eunseo.
I don't get it. She's a lovely, polite, well-mannered and successful actress who seems to be a bit (for now) on the
reserved side. She's not loud or obnoxious and seems considerate of Donghae's awkward shortcomings. All
relationships are tentative in the beginning, just as Leeteuk's and Sora's were. For people to hate on her (and Donghae
by association) just isn't fair or right. I see it here in some of these posting, commenting about the lack of 'chemistry', her
personality, appearance etc.
I'm sorry to cut your post. I actually enjoyed today's episode, although I had my reserve with Eunseo. I still have my reserve with Eunseo for what she have done in the blind date. First, she told Sena to not call again and laughed. Any sensible person would see this is rude and hurtful, especially when Sena got rejected already. Sora, Donghae, and I believe Kyunhyun was shocked with her action because they were the only people who weren't laughing at that time. Then she intelligently pulled that trick on Donghae by picking Eunhyun so she could test out Donghae's devotion. Even Donghae felt scared with her intention and backed away while exclaiming she was playing with him. It was because of these two actions that caused me to have some reserve in regards to her action. And I think...that is why some people hold their reserve with ES because of her action during the blind date.
However, I don't mind the fact that DH and ES become the new couple as eventually, they would move on to establish their own relationship on their own without DC couple. Definitely, from this episode, it seems that DH is the one who needs someone to take care of instead of ES. She is the one who likes kickboxing, and she is the one who actually like the roller-coaster, while DH came out of the ride weak legged. After seeing how DH reacted, it just reminded me of Episode 18 when he asked ES whether she liked roller-coaster and she nodded her head enthusiastically while he looked slightly paled. She was also the one who came there with the glove, lotion, and lip balm. But so far...I don't find their part interesting enough for me to pursue it...but time will tell.
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@33ru_mieru: Wow...you read my thought exactly in regards to why the PD didn't justify that DH and ES is the new couple. I also thought that they wanted to see the public reaction before they confirmed that they are the new couple.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know the rating for this episode and last week's episode? I heard that last week's episode was still low, and I was hoping that this week will be higher.
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And I am sorry for talking about ES. Dzudzu is right. Let's focus on DC...or else this will turn out to be a debate.
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Hello FD's! I'm back again and I'll just have one thing to say to those people who bash Sora.
Here's what I think.
Lastly, whether they say Sora is not pretty and all, come on would that matter to Teuk? Look at how he gazes at her when they were at the park. Sora was just simple, barely with no make up on but look at his expression. Look at how he said she was pretty when she was having a hard time in the kitchen? He just bluntly said she was pretty. Now, I believe Teuk's feeling for Sora is not mere infatuation, but something much deeper that that. So, to all those antis who bash her, eat your heart out because the important thing in here is, TEUKIE WILL ALWAYS THINK SORA IS PRETTY. Well, need I say more?
Sorry to cut your post, hyunbinlover. I was at home working and was playing episode 7 for background noise. When I raised up my head, it was showing the part where Sora was passing out Sora bread to LT's younger classmates. In one of the backroom interview, LT said that "Sora looked pretty." He then reaffirms it again, by saying "Sora is just pretty. That is the true answer from me." When I saw that, it reminded of me what you were saying. Sora is pretty...and LT thinks she is pretty.
Maybe, initially, he is attracted to her looks, as Sungmin said that LT likes look more than girls who are sexy. It seems that all that he does for her in episode 1-5 is because she is his supposed wife, and he is supposed to treat her like that. He complimented her numerous of time, during those episodes for her looks. But as for knowing what her character is like, it seems that he doesn't know that much because they haven't really spent a lot of time to talk to each other and get to know each other due to their awkwardness and time. It isn't until episode six and seven where I truly see LT's real attraction toward Sora came about. It is so obvious in the backroom interview in episode 7 how the first time he said she was pretty was different from the second time he stated that statement. The first time he said it was referring to her look, but the second time is referring to her character. It was at that time LT started to see how pretty Sora's character is like...and I think that was the turning point for LT's feeling.
A recent article indicates that WGM is scripted, and I can't help but feel sad that the article opens the gateway for some people to reconfirm that LT's feeling for Sora is not true and that the SS4 concert was all of WGM's fault and that Super Junior only agree to WGM's filming because they have something to gain. I agree that none of us know for sure whether LT has any feeling for Sora or not or whether these feelings are real or not. Like Sungmin said, only both of them know the truth.
However, I highly doubt, if Sora isn't who she is, LT would not have proposed to Sora in the concert. Super Junior has a lot to lose by LT doing that because he is offending a lot of his supporters...and it is shown when LT received all those backlash for his action (more so on Sora's part). LT could have just let her watched the concert and that will be it. If Sora was like Eunseo (sorry...I can't stand that girl), I highly doubt that he would have treated her that great even though Eunseo is pretty...because Eunseo's personality is not as pure, kind, and sincere as Sora. Sora shows her kindness, consideration, thoughtfulness, and purity through her actions and all the things she has done for LT...which allows him to know that she is worth it to propose to her during the concert. It is not like LT doesn't know about the backlash. He knows because even Sora told him about it in episode 8, but he wants to continue on with it even though he knows he is upsetting a lot of ELF, but in his mind, Sora is worth it. And it is illogical to think that LT would accept WGM's suggestion that will 1. cause him to lose fans, 2. put his career in jeopardy, and 3. harm his group because of his own action.
Finally...I forgot who said this, but one of you pointed out that the fortune teller was saying baby first and then marriage. Lol...I think it came true when LT joined "Hello Baby" first and then "WGM" second. He was a father first and then a husband.
Sorry for the long post.
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Donghae is also attracted to Sora, I think. But sorry all he could do was tease Leeteuk by creating opportunities to get physically close to Sora.
Donghae's being able to do this just tells Sora has good rapport with him or maybe with all the SuJu members she has already met for a number of times.Leeteuk's being too protective maybe hilarious right now and just shows how caring he is. However, in the long run he should be able to lessen such over protectiveness. For the cooking for example, just let Sora get the chance to finish cooking whether the outcome is good or bad. That way she will learn through her mistakes and give her confidence to cook for Leeteuk. If Leeteuk could not help it, maybe he could just sit in the couch where he could be ready anytime if something wrong happens.
As for not letting anyone touch Sora, he could start by just letting his members hug Sora or shake hands with her. He has to trust his members and feel secure as well that Sora will always be with him even if there are others that are attracted to her. Or is this because he knows how his fellow members are also deprived of normal relations with girls? Looking at Sora, she is a girl a who knows what she wants, and this attitude of Leeteuk would cause a friction in real life sooner of later.
Hopefully, someone close to Leeteuk could tell him that. Or maybe fans who could connect with him could tell him also.
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Thank you Hanyi for the synopsis. We highly appreciate your efforts. Please get a lot of rest.
Sorry for cutting your post. After watching all of the episodes multiple times (lol...obsess with this couple), it is no doubt that Donghae is attracted to Sora, and Leeteuk knows it. I'm going into disillusion mode...so please bear with me. He mentioned at least two times that Donghae was jealous of them and multiple times, whenever Sora is near Donghae, LT is always there to intervene. He prevents Donghae from touching Sora's standee. He pulls Sora closer to him when she was standing too close to Donghae in the blind-date special part 2. And this episode, he intervenes three times (hand shake, hug, and the cheer) to prevent any skin ship between Sora and any guys. It's hilarious how protective he is over her, but especially more with Donghae because Donghae always do things to provoke LT (pretending to call Sora when they were going to NY, preventing one of the artist from wishing Sora and LT happiness in their marriage during the NY self-cam, calling her darling princess on episode 9, and attempting to touch her hands and hug her in this episode) are enough to set LT's radar on. Even for Eunhunk, LT is kind of cautious because EH held onto Sora's hand during episode 9 and attempt to touch her hand again in episode 10 (when LT asked Sora why her hand was cold). That's why he pulled her close to him on the blind date episode after LT compliments Sora for her talents. He isn't like this when Sora stood very close to Sungmin during the blind date episodes. Lol...at least that is what I think.
Anyways...I think his over-protectiveness is temporary because right now he is still not sure that Sora loves him. She likes him...that he knows...but to love him enough to kiss him because he is the only one she loves--her man--he is not certain about it. Yes, she is willing to kiss him when she nodded her head, but until she actually kisses him, his uncertainty still is there. Lol...that is why, as for now...he is making sure no other guys touches his "girl."
But this episode is really cute. They seems more natural in the store than at their home, and their relationship has progress even further since LT seems to be comfortable enough to have his arms around Sora. It must be the "un-shown" hug during the blind date. And I do think, like most DC fans, that they have something going on outside of WGM or else...how can LT be so comfortable to playfully hit Sora on her leg when she accidentally sent her shoe flying? It is a very huge progress from their interaction in Episode 17 to here.
Sorry for the long post.
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Just in case you haven't found out, episode 17 English sub version is out by Kshownow. It is available for download. Whew...at least I hope I contributed to something.
http://forums.kshownow.net/index.php/topic,502.0.html
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Thank you, sqd66, for providing the link to the English sub: it made my day. And thank you, everyone for explaining what ELF means.
This episode made all the wait worth it. It's short, but it is sweet. I wonder, after LT finish watching this and saw Sora's backroom interview, will he take the initiative now that heard how she felt about him asking for her permission. Lol...LT is such a gentleman that he wants to make sure that Sora agrees to the kiss before he kiss her. He did that in the Christmas Special (with the peppero challenge) and now he is doing the same thing. Although he wants to kiss her, he still respects her...even though he unsuccessfully tries to trick her.
And this episodes remind me of the first episode when SJ said that LT doesn't know when to say or not say things. Lol...he tries to trick his wife but ends up messing up himself. He should know his wife is good that these games and he never wins: she got him when he, 1. the couple mic interview and his wife made him promise to do the batman pose during the mock interview 2. Sora's (I can't help but normally write "his wife") drunk act in which he has to toss in the white flag because he can't continue on with his acting 3. and the rice cake acting. Lol...he can't win over his wife...she catches everything that he says and understands his intention. And...I like the fact the fortune teller said that LT won't cheat on her. It also goes to show how observant Sora is because she always catches LT's little slip ups (the secret dates...his usage of formal language) and always points it out to him: the prime example is during the blind date, LT agree with Kyuhyun when he said "secret date" and Sora calls him on it. Ha. She even points out his whole intention of the game...LT really got himself a smart and caring "wife."
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FD's I just need your opinion on this one. Please give your opinions, be it honest or not. Let's put away our being FD's and try to give the most honest opinion.
So here's the thing, my friend (anti-Teuksora) just told me that Teukie is being pushed to Sora and he doesn't like that. She also said that Teukie doesn't like being pushed to someone that he doesn't like at all and that he's irritated by this. So, which is which? I'm kinda pissed off by this and my defences in actually saying a blunt opinion towards her is slowly betraying me. So FD's, what do you think?
Please don't be dishearten. Truthfully, I don't know who Leeteuk was until I watched WGM and fell in love with this couple. Then I started to follow SuJu.
Anyways, as a by-stander who is not a fan of LT, I can already tell he is a straightforward and outspoken person from the tweets and comments he leaves (and that members have posted in here). He is not afraid to tell people what he likes and don't like. If Sora is really pushed toward him, he would not have bothered to talk to her outside of work in the first place. WGB is work...it is a show. To the extremity, one can perceive that he is there just because it is another work for him. If LT doesn't care about Sora at all and doesn't have any liking toward her, he wouldn't have asked her to follow him in twitter and talk to her outside of work because it will go beyond his "required work." But that is not the case...since he does talk to her outside of work and tweets her. Therefore, their relationship is special...is it love (I extremely hope so)...or friendship...only they both can tell.
So for your friend to say that, I don't think she understands who LT is really like...it is more like she is the delusional people that LT was talking about...although he wouldn't say that to his ELF. So...don't keep it in your heart. I also don't think you have a great friend. She knows that you don't like to hear that, but she intentionally and violently tells to these things. My friend and I have disagreement, but we never intentionally bash each others like and dislike because we respect each other's preference.
So...don't worry. Don't be down. You have the whole community here to support you even if your friend doesn't.
By the way...I'm sorry to ask this, but since I am not a fan of SuJu, I want to know what ELF means. I know the acronym stands for SuJu's fan...but what are the actual words. Sorry if I offended anyone with my ignorance.
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My 2 cents :
- "Thanks" to last week's ep, I kept my expectation (very) low this time around and it worked.
- Won't be watching Donghae-EunSo's show. Gosh.. if I had a dime for every time she flips her god dam* hair..
- EunHyuk was being a jerk. Fact. I won't bother trying to justify his actions.
- Sora & Sungmin was standing VERY close to each other during the dance time. Esp. during Lee Sena's at the beginning of part 2. Love! Hah.
- Sora is getting more endearing with each episode. Can't say the same thing with LT.
Cheers.
I just started to watch this show and immediately got hook to this couple. They are very cute.
In regards to episode 16, yep, Sora and Sungmin were standing close to each other, and that is why in the latter part of the episode, LT keeps on wanting Sora to stand closer to him (once telling her to stand closer and another time he pulled her closer to him). Although there wasn't a lot of the DC moments, their body languages speaks louder than words. LT is still endearing...it is just that people have been wowed with his grandiose gestures at the beginning and now he is acting like a normal "husband" so it doesn't seem like he is as endearing as before. However, he still is..in my opinion.
*Edit: Also, in the Christmas episode, Sora said that she finds LT handsome when he is MC. That is probably why he was trying to stay in that mode throughout the whole time, yet, he still add in some flirting in there.
Donghae's being able to do this just tells Sora has good rapport with him or maybe with all the SuJu members she has already met for a number of times.
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Thanks Hanyi, Heidi, and Angels for updating everyone with current news. I felt my heart dropped when I first heard the news but thank goodness it is not true. I've tried searching for the site, but I can't find anything that looks anything close to a poll. Sorry.
Thank you, everyone, for compiling the whole 200th anniversary project, in particularly Mieru who spearheaded this project. Thanks for allowing me the opportunity to send something to my favorite couple.
I'm going into delusional mode, but just a thought in regarding to LT's act of not following Sora on Twitter and then following her back, which occurred a few weeks ago. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think LT originally thought of doing this as an April Fool joke. I guess he was hoping to get his fans rile up about it. However, after thinking it for a moment, he followed her back and instead, post up he will quite twitter as his joke instead. My thought is this; either action will cause his fans to panic and wonder what is going on, however, he choose to retract his prior action because I think he was concerned that Sora would have taken him seriously. Out of consideration of Sora's feelings (and hoping she would not get any misconception), he quickly followed her back and instead, tweeted he will quit Twitter. LT sometimes does not think things through when he does/says something...and I guess he didn't realize how Sora would react to his action until a while latter. The main point is, for all of his April Fool jokes, he maintained it even when it caused him to have back lashes (cell-phone incident) with the purpose of getting his fans rile up, but he only retracts the not following Sora's joke. It shows that he values Sora above all. Just my thoughts...