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  1. 23 minutes ago, wildcherry said:

    Do you know why was she banned? I watched Last Empress, it was ok in the beginning, probably because the solid acting of Jang Nara, Shin Sung Rok & Choi Hyuk. But as story goes from horrified to ridiculous, I stopped watching. Somehow this writer love to romanticising a scumbag, killed off the good people & justifiying criminals. So I wonder why was she banned? Is it because of her controversial writing or is there issue with her morals or character?

     

    Edit: NVM find this in Wikipedia 

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    m met assistant director Son Moon-kwon[18] while filming Dear Heaven, and the couple married in January 2007. They later collaborated on Opposites Attract (like the protagonists, Im and Son also had a 12-year age difference), Assorted Gems, and New Tales of Gisaeng.[19]

    On January 21, 2012, the 40-year-old Son committed suicide by hanging himself from a staircase with a necktie, at his house in Ilsan, Gyeonggi Province.[19] Im was the one who found him, and she requested the police that the death be kept a secret from his family and colleagues. News about Son's death broke nearly a month later on February 13.[20][21]

    In March 2012, Son's family filed a ₩50 million lawsuit against Im for psychological injury because she told them of his death three weeks after the fact, and held the funeral secretly, preventing an opportunity for family and friends to pay their respects. In an interview, Son's sister alleged that her brother and Im were married in name only (in order to further Im's career), and never lived together in their five years of marriage.[22] Finding it suspicious that Im lied to them that their son had died of a heart attack, and doubting the authenticity of his will,[23] Son's parents asked the police for a re-investigation, in case of foul play. In October 2012, prosecutors cleared Im over her husband's death, and officially ruled Son's death a suicide.[24]The psychological injury lawsuit is ongoing.

    So it seems the writer’s life is full of drama too. No wonder she likes writing about something dark & prefers scumbags over decency. No wonder her writing is all over… from melo to fantasy to comedy…and for the life of me, I’m still lost to why grandpa ghost run loose like some horny lunatic. It would be more relatable if only grandma sees him because of her guilt, but she doesn’t see him 

    Yes it in WIKI ... review board found that her scripts are too violent and unethical   And her older dramas got dragged because she seemed immoral ...

     

    we have now seen ourselves on the level of immorality and lack of ethics  with this series . 
     

     

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  2. 32 minutes ago, wildcherry said:

    What is the writer’s name again? Because next time her name pops up in any drama I’m gonna boycott her drama

    Im sung Han ... I watched it against my better judgement as I did not see any of previous work , I knew she was banned but thought she was just controversial not mentally retarded .

     

    the director I also new director , this is his first series I believe hence the direction and acting seems off , may be he was selected to just follow the dictacts  of the writer and the channel also seems to be small channel wanting traffic on thier channel so user her but Netflix should have had a better judgement to air this on their platform.

     

     

     

     

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  3. 13 minutes ago, Jcanqueen12 said:

    I'm mad!!!! This writer wasted my time for 31 episodes!!! I'm definitely not tuning in for a season 3. It's a very poorly written drama. I just cannot....leaving everything for episode 16. So many filler scenes that was unnecessary. Scenes that could have gone to fleshing BHR, Seo Ban/Dong Ma, Si Eun's background...even Pi-Young's. Also scenes that could have moved the story along. This writer wrote the entire show like a daily drama/100 episodes drama. I cannot for the life of me understand why she dragged it out so much. 


    Looks like todays episode is a waste , I browsed it through by skipping everything except for the letter being read in radio station with BHR....

     

    I believe the scene of wedding next week may be nam ga bin and dong ma  but not sure , do groomsmen wear flower on their jackets 

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  4. 8 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

    Sometimes the cheating partner is not always a stranger... It could be a co-worker that you work together with for too long and too close. Communication and sharing happened, maybe starting from office stuff, to personal stuff, while communication and sharing didn't happen at home. It's not always a clear obvious choice made, but just slowly happening without the person knowing, they fall into the sin. I believe most people do not plan to cheat on their spouse. No doubt there are habitual cheaters, but most people falling into adultery may not realise what they were doing until it's too late. I have to make a disclaimer again that I DO NOT support cheating/adultery. I only understand that there is a push-and-pull factor in any broken relationship. 

     

    I think of the analogy with the story of putting a frog in a cool water and slowly heating it up, as opposed to putting the frog into a super hot water. Simply said, in the first scenario, frog will not realise that it is being cooked and relax in the cool water. The second, immediately frog knows and wants to jump out. So for some people, it may not be a choice made consciously. I can already imagine some of the possible rationalising: "nah, it's just a friendly meal, nothing more", "I'm just showing a little care because he/she has no one else to help him/her", "I'm just meeting him/her for few minutes", "we're just good drinking buddies", "it's just a thank-you gift/token" etc.etc.etc...

     

    My point is, everyone should never ever take marriages for granted. It is work in progress till old age. It's a continuous effort to keep the love alive and the marital bond strong. 


    We always knows when one is getting attracted to another person and the things you do next are always the choices. 

    in my long career where I worked with hundreds of co workers , I have seen many single people falling in love in offices and seen only 1 case where two married people got divorced and married each other. they kept it very discreet but it was obvious that cheating was involved , I can tell you they were judged even though no one told them in their face. I have also seen many opposite gender office friends who remain as freinds.
     

    we come across better people than spouse many times in life and people do tend to have crushes, on too handsome Or pretty or too charismatic or too intelligent people around us but ones who have character and believe in marriage will know not overstep boundaries. Ones who have sense will know the admiration you feel for the other person in many cases is for their qualities and not the actual person.

     

    There may be some others that can’t control their urges or feelings will ruin the marriages or ruin their spouses  life . The rationalizing you mentioned does happen with them trying to justify their time spent. i have no sympathy for them. They ignore the spouse and build relationship with an outsider and destroy the marriage . They will be called cheaters as they are cheaters. Once or multiple times a cheater is always that a cheater.

     

    Everyone in that persons life will know that one cheated, the person may be shameless and go and live life as usual but the Past will always remain.

     


     

     

     

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  5. 39 minutes ago, Gumiho said:

     

    Hmm.. if you want to conclude it like that from your POV even though that is not what I mean by posting many paragraphs to explain about there’s always a cause behind everything happened then..  

     

    I like to use humanity approach when talking about human’s behaviour because of each person are unique with their different situations. 

     

    Cheating happens for reasons but if the marriage can be saved than better save it for me. Marriage is too precious to be break just because of a cheating. And me personally says that if my husband is like yu sin I will forgive him because of course it’s a husband and I love him. But if like PSH or prof I will go to the last option. 

     

     

    I think I posted it before that sometimes affairs happened accidentally too. Sometimes it begans from just a simple talk. That is why I understand it is better if husband and wife communicate their problems and talking to each other rathen then meeting strangers and talking. Of if for a moment their spouses can not talk it is better to meet and talk with psychologist. 

     

    Btw I think woman who wants to defends their marriage like writer lee is not because of she is lack of her self esteem. She loves him. Also woman like lady di who knows before marriage about prince charles camilla relationship. She just simply wants to be with him and love him. 

     

    I admire lady di because of she is the only one celebrity with ability of loving and caring others deep. 

     

    Gtg guys.. and gutnite. If quoting me I will reply on Monday hahaha.. 

     

    I disagree , you will have temptations and will come across better people as you go about your life in the world . How you resist temptation shows ones character and you indulge in adultery shows lack of character.

     

    i agree with you that if couple want to work on marriage even after cheating , that is their prerogative but for that to be a success the cheating party needs repent sincerely not like psh or  Yusin , Yusin was trying to just hold onto a marriage  , if he really repented he would not have allowed AMI in to the house.
     

    the LACK OF SELF ESTEEM sentence is for mistresses to just see how they threw themselves to married men.

     

    the cheating and divorce have hurt the pride and dented  the confidence of wives for sure. But looks like BHR and SPY seem to be moving on and regaining their confidence . the writer needs more work on that front but she is a too self sacrificing and seems a doormat to me  to start with, she needs lot of work .  I hope she will work on herself and seeing younger women who she thinks are very beautiful also going through divorces may help her see herself and her self worth in a different light .
     
    Lady Diana Charles story is a story of family pressures and a man who bowed down to pressure of family but could not commit to a marriage. 

     

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  6. It is more likely that 50s wife was going through menopause and harmonal changes. Husband needed to understand that.


    But I think he was better in a way because he insisted he wanted a divorce than continung his cheating behind the back and he stood firm on his request even when his children and wife dissed him . He deserved all of it .
     

    he was open to became a bad party in his marriage and he was firm on what he wanted , it is better in the perspective that PSH is a wimp and kept sleeping with his wife when he should beeen firm on divorce and yusin  still wanting to uphold his image and wanting both wife and side piece but we get more dissing on prof than PSH.

     

    all three are scumbugs for cheating and deserve no good things in life.

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  7. 1 hour ago, Gumiho said:

     

    perhaps.. if can divorce. But man woman relationship is not a math. Sometimes I like to see the story behind why things happened. 

     

    As for PSH he wants to kiss her first that’s how things happened hahahaha. And that mistress wants to be pregnant. I admit that she was tricking him. This is not right of course however PSH is still someone else’s husband. 

     

    Yu Sin oppa is a perfect man who has a great confidence of himself. He thoughts that he would not overwhelmed by ami feelings and to listen to other problems is just like go to work for him. And no. Woman was create to teases man that’s how Adam eats that forbidden fruit. And he lost. Hahaha. 

     

    About prof I am just too lazy to write about him he he he.

     

    mmm divorce is not correct but it is the last option if there is no option anymore. 


    you last sentence seems to imply that  you say cheating so ok but divorce is not OK .

     

    cheating is a choice and it is made by people who don’t respect the sanctity of marriage or don’t understand what commitment marriage requires. They are not single to randomly indulge in meeting  a stranger multiple times , kissing strangers, accepting gifts or going to others home to offer help multiple times , the is intentional choices made by cheaters. 
     

    all the woman lack self esteem and that is why they went for married man knowingly. They are not innocent .

    it would have been a different story if husbands deceived them saying they are single ... not here . they willingly participated in adultry with an intention to have the man for themselves.

     

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  8. 3 hours ago, Gumiho said:

    I like the discussion on this thread. It feels like I am gossiping my neighbors with my other neighbors, which is something I cannot do during this pandemic covid 19. It’s entertaining hahahaha :lol:

     

    btw man woman of course can cheat as long as there are still man woman alive in this world. Two different poles will always attracting to each other. No matter they are mother/father as long as they are human they will always have possibilities to cheat.

     

    but forget about the moral theory for the moment. Everything happened because of there’s a cause. When people entering marriage no one have ever imagine that they will cheat. Everyone in this world wants a happy marriage like cinderella story. People who have not married yet think that marriage is the end of the journey. But I am sure that people who already married know that marriage is just the beginning of the journey because in the marriage we will show our true characters. 

     

    1. PSH marries BHR because of he likes it when she plays the drum and she is very pretty. But after marrying he finds out that BHR never cooks, she is also having anger problems, selfish, etc

     

    2. SPY marries Yu sin oppa because of he is a chaebol, he is handsome, caring, and everything perfect from a husband. Later she finds out that he is thirsty of attention and affection from others (he confesses it).. Yu Sin also later finds out that SPY is very stubborn woman who is difficult to forgive people even if it’s her own mother or her own husband.

     

    3. Prof married writer lee because of they were in love for each other. He thinks that he founds his perfect half and vice versa. But after 30 years of marriage he gets bored with all the routines and he wants a wife who wears pretty dresses and always having good smell. Or perhaps before he cheats he already tried to tells writer lee but she is not that kind of woman who is comfort to wear pretty dresses. 

     

    4. Prince charles marries lady di with the thought that she will completes what Camilla can completes in his feelings and soul. But later he founds out that lady di and camilla are 2 different women. He wants someone who can comfort him when talk, instead lady di was very young when married and instead needs him to guide her and complements her. 

     

    And the journey begin.. 

     

    1. PSH could not hold it and meet SY and talks with her

    2. Yu sin oppa was too bold to think that if he cares to A mi he will not being overwhelmed by her vulnerability and ability to kiss hahaha

    3. Prof meets a pretty young actress and could not hold it to go to dine and drinks with her

    4. Prince charles backs to camilla and lady di have secret meetings with her bodyguard. 

     

    And yeah.. the affairs start. 

    But from my personal POV I think that affairs are not always the end. It’s how we want to continue life. Defends the marriages or start new journeys. It’s depend to the problems in each marriage. If the cases like PSH, or prof I would not want to stay in those kind of marriages. There’s limit for me. But if it’s like yu sin oppa who comes and bend on his knees and cry and ask forgiveness and did not want to divorce and offered all properties control, I would defend it. Hahaha. Of course if people I love come to me and ask forgiveness of course I will forgive him because of I love him and he is my other half. But of course he needs to be controlled hahaha.

     

    It’s easy to say he is a father he should  not cheat or she is a mother she should not cheat. Experience it first then we will understand there’s always a story behind everything happened. No one wants to cheat when they gets married. Lady di desperately in love to prince charles when she married him. She knews about camilla but she was still full filled her duty, gaves heirs to him and raised them with love. It is not and easy job to do while she was struggling with her marriage problems. When she founds comfort with her bodyguard it’s very human for me. She needs to be loved too. 

     

    btw can not wait for the last 2 eps and the plot twist hahahaha

     

    Almost every couple goes through ups and down in their marriage and will discover new facets of partner.

     

    but no not everyone will go and cheat , only people with low moral code will go and cheat.

     

    most will work through problems or will go through divorce or in some cases like PSH mother  live unhappy and sub servient life  till her twilight years .

     

    Divorce is the correct thing to do if you truly want out of

    marraige , no sneaking behind the back and cheating.

     

    anyone who knows Charles Diana story will tell you Diana is a victim in the marriage. Charles and Camilla got an official acceptance only after several years when they are now very old. thier story will always be told from Dianas perspective and  also the sympathies go to her .

     

     

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  9. Defiantly do not want them

    to get another season .  They should end it even if it is in a very bad and unacceptable way.

     

    They are just tricking majority of viewers who wants to see some justice for the wives into tuning in and ending watching the crap .

     

    they should have just named the series as Mistresses  and the journey of infidelity , then only Mistresses or SW wannabes or people who could watch infidelity without any problem would have tuned in .

     

     

    on a side note

    New still cuts released on 40s couple , I believe now slowly everyone will realize safeguarding your interest is much better than taking high road .

     

    time for doxing 40s husband and Ami and for 40 wife to hold a press conference or highly publicized custody battle .

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  10. There was a scene where SW and ami are congratulating each other for successfully breaking up marriages and getting themselves a wedding ...

     

    just goes to show , immoral and loose characters support each other’s affairs and indulging in adultery with a married man.
     

    Same goes for people like PSH parents who have low moral code that is why they condone cheating and  justify affairs and blame spouse for cheating. 
     

    Birds of same feathers flock together and will have same thoughts and indulge in same actions .

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  11. Looks like my deleted post was properly received LOL 

     

     

    my mister :

     

    ep 7 : Dong Hoon Loser  it is ok as long as no body knows about embarrassing details about my life , it is no big deal .

     

    dont expose bad guys , you will get messed up to , it is not worth it 

     

    THAT IS HIS  LOSER SELF 

     

    By Ep 16 : winner  DOng hoon and Ji an during the course of next episodes try to help each other and learn to stand up for self and by the ep 16 successfully expose the BAD guy , strategically plan out pay back  and come out as winners and move on to better life . sure they were some problems because they are not perfect but they better life for themselves

     

    Message from My mister : you may be at the bottom end of you life but get up and try , fight back and achieve your full potential , help others achieve it 

     

    BHR learned well how to strategically plan , as some one said some where she took all lemons thrown at her by PSH and family and turned it to Lemonade , got rid of man child , got a nice house and even if she looses typical Male seo ban can go on and live well.

     

     

     

    36 minutes ago, dramaaddict said:

    Some cheated because they are serial cheaters and some people cheated because they are unhappy in their marriage.  It seems like the 3O couple, he wasn't happy because she treated him and his PIL like RickRoll'D.  When she found out - she didn't want a divorce but only wanted a divorce because she has her eye on someone better than her husband.  I am not saying the 30 couple husband right because he is in the wrong to cheat but I honesty can't defend her either because she is just as bad. If she walked after she finds out (like the 40 couple wife) than I would have more respect for her.   I don't think she should be married at all, she only thinks about herself and has this princess syndrome personality - poor sod whoever marries her next.  Maybe she needs a stronger personality for hers because her husband really is not a match for her.

     

    She wanted divorce and said she will divorce him once she meets the mistress which husband refused  , mil persuaded her that it is better to maintain marriage and have a baby .

     

    she tried and finally gave up as the man child is pining over a mommy figure and did not o an ounce of effort in maintaining marriage . During this process she looked around and found there  may be better men around , hence planned a nice house in a good locality as she wants a Chaebol future partner , nothing wrong in wanting .

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  12. 4 minutes ago, TheQueenReturns said:

    Your post only proves my point. When you or me or anyone hate that person, or in this case a character, that hate becomes extreme to the point where we only see and think in extremes which is what I call black and white thinking. We have no middle ground on this issue, so I will politely no longer converse with you on this point since we are solidly set on what we believe. :sweet:

     

    @Lmangla I disagree. She took what they negotiate together, but she never explicitly stated that they left her out in the cold. That was media spin and perhaps she said it that way to force the media to make their own conclusion without her having to say it. I have seen people who held their dignity and still came out on the bad end and people who have gone to scorched-earth and still came out on the bad end and some on the better end. While dealing with people who care only about the reputation, where do you hit them? At their reputation. I think some of the stuff just difference in worldviews. Some people prefer people to take what they consider the high road which is private dignity, while others prefer blasting. I personally think that the only reason she went scorched-earth is because she found out other information regarding the parent in-laws Shenanigans along with her husband. And even if they found out that she had a settlement, they can always replay what she stated and can fall back on the fact that she never explicitly stated that she was left out in the cold. She admits she got a settlement and they never asked how much she got. Why? Because the fact that this man had the nerve to cheat and get her pregnant. The proof is in the pudding. They are not going to believe that she is lying because her own words were more carefully crafted . And what do you think that people are really mad about? They are more mad about the fact that he got another woman pregnant. Let us really evaluate the press conference. Before bhr halfway spilled the beans, even the reporters kept on saying why must you be kind. Aren't you being too kind? They are firmly in her corner and will still firmly be in her corner unless the writer decides to go the ghost father route which is possible. 

     

    And I said said before, if the complete truth were to come out including the CCTV footage with the parents-in-law and what he was doing, she will come out looking on top. They would sympathize with her more and completely understand why she broke the  plate and went straight for the girl.  That's why I said I want a parent in law and son to try it. Please try it. I want someone to please try it. Because had she told the complete truth, their Golf Course will be closing right now. On top of the fact that her parents are in Canada, and then she has no family there. They will wreck them

     

    I had re-watched that press conference five times after many comments were made here that she stated that she said she was left out in the cold. No she didn't. And she's not complete evil either. 

     

    Strictly in my opinion, the writer received backlash because her shipping of the adulteress couple his utterly failed and now she's going to go scorched-earth with bhr. Also, she tends to favor showing only the happy moments with the adulteress couples. All of them. We have no baseline or parameter to go on when it comes to the wives actual marriages from the beginning to end.

     

    And this is the truth of the situation, bias both hate and love distorts vision and perception. I had wrote my personal story on this thread, but it was deleted since it was personal and considered off topic but had anyone read what I wrote before it got deleted, you would know exactly where I'm coming from. 

     

    If the writer truly does decide to punish bhr, what would be her point? The way I see it is that this season was just an extension glorifying or what some people would say showing the other side of the love the things husbands have 4 their mistresses. It is to show that no matter how sweet you are like 50s wife, how perfect you are like 40 is wife, and how young and popular you are my thirties wife, your husband cheated and fell in love with another woman and their love in the husband's eyes is more Superior to what they have at home.

     

    I will write the transcript out later and then take a break from this thread now until Saturday or Sunday. 

     

     

     


    Well said .


    regardinf marriage ,some  I think are mistaken that Marriage is ones own whim noting to do with law of land that you are married legally until you divorce or spouse dies.

     

    BHR is a celebrity , her first priority is to safeguard her own reputation. She is not responsible for anyone elses reputation , they did not think about reputation when PSH went and slept with another women . Why should she give a RickRoll'D. 

     

    Taking high road will make one push over in some cases just like what happened to the writer . She stews in private after taking high road. I seriously want her to stand up for herself , setting a bad example for her children. It will not come as a shock if her son comes back one day and blames her that she is the cause for divorce after multiple meetings with father. 

     

     

     

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  13. PSH Parents  are super rich and it is not like BHR got half of the properties owned by PILs or a golf course , she just got a apartment in a posh area ... not much for their standards , so I don’t really see it as anything detrimental even if some one finds out. 

     

     

    Seo ban is a typical male , protect my image even if I wronged you for BHR press con . The question who asked for divorce for SPY , why is it significant and telling her only time will tell if her decision was right , this means he does not see infidelity as a big issue , a BIG red flag .

     

    I believe since his parents got divorced when he was a baby , his thoughts may be against the divorce.

     

    i really want him to hear about Gabin and writers husband and see what his response is , he seemed to think that ga bin is very good woman and his brother is wrong for dumping her . I am waiting to see her affair get blown in the news.

     

     

    on a side note , how came  nam ha bin could not have gone for the funeral of her own parents because of the show , I think it could have been postponed .

     

    i thought actually she and dong ma will go to Spain in his private plane but anyway he was the one who helped wrap up everything for her . good guy he is . He is offering marriage in sincerity and she should accept and then I hope her affair should come out ending in no marriage for her 


     

    PS -  BHR phone call to her EX FIL to just run the salt was LIT

     

    he could not say anything to her , she just paid back in kind , saying empty platitudes on face and back stabbing behind her back.

     

    they really expected her to think the affair was all her fault

     

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  14. 56 minutes ago, chickfactor said:

    I was going on and on about how Sa-Hyeon could fight back by revealing that his family gave her a lot of money, or to reveal what sort of wife she was. While he doesn't have the guts to get into a PR war with her, his law firm might.

     

    And then I remembered that the most insulting thing about his affair for Hye-Ryeong is how much older Song Won is. :lol:

     

    So all that has to happen is for the media to find out Song Won's age and... game over. Hye-Ryeong will be quite humiliated, and people will wonder what really happened in this marriage.

     

    As I said before, you reap what you sow. That means there are consequences to your actions. You cheat on your spouse, things won't turn out well. You purposely ruin people's lives in retaliation, things won't turn out well for you, either.

     

    I'm sure Hye-Ryeong will have plenty of chances to date men. But she wants to be a chaebol's wife now. And you know what chaebol's don't want? Wives who hold press conferences to say things like, "I want to protect her privacy as a fellow woman... because she's with child!" Yeah, she gave her in-laws a really good blow. They felt that. But that was also tacky.

     

    Is Seo Ban sexy? Hmm. The actor is quite wooden, but he doesn't stick out, because everyone on this show speaks weirdly. But that's gotten a lot better lately - or, I got used to it? In any case, there is a certain inscrutable quality to him.

     

    It's possible that he is sexy because he is the only decent man in this show, because all the other men are lying cheaters.


    let me know if you want me to stop replying to your posts 

     

    the lawyers firm don’t have time to get involved in someone’s personal life and that too an adulterer , what will they defend ,  his wife threw away his mom food so he went had affair and having a child.

     

    why would it be game over for BHR , if SW gets exposed , it is much more damaging for her face to be plastered across with a big tummy out of affair , her family too and don’t forget the great legacy that is going to be on internet for eternity for her child to read.

     

    chaebols also protect their reputation and she is not ordinary person , she is celebrity here , so I don’t think anyone is going to be so offended for stating the facts and if any any Chabol thinks like seo ban that she should protect ex husband and mistress then he is not worth it . 
     

    we recently had bill gates and wife got divorced and she disclosed that it is over his not so great character and no body thinks she is a gold digger or Bad char .  Diana and Charles , no one blames Diana that Charles went with much older or less charming woman lol .

     

    In our country a celebrity broke a home and married the guy  when she was heavily pregnant with out of wedlock child , no one slandered wife but sure celebrity’s image is tarnished for ever . 

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  15. 19 minutes ago, chickfactor said:

    I agree that Hye-Ryeong not getting to be with Seo Ban is not some great personal loss for her. But he's a stand-in for the general public. There are some people who will feel sympathy for her, but just as many will feel contempt for her, too.

     

    Because make no mistake, everyone can recognize what she's actually doing, which is throwing mud on her ex-husband's face. Some people will be totally okay with that, which is their right. And some people won't think that's right, and that's a valid opinion, too.

     

    And who's going to want to date her in the future? They know that she will go "scorched earth" if things don't turn out her way. She will always get men who are attracted to her for fame and beauty. And that's... not a road to happiness and true connection, as she's already experienced.

     

    Seo Ban is a man of few words, so it would be nice if we had cartoon bubbles pop out from the side of his head, too. It will probably say, "Why are all these female work colleagues suddenly telling me about their divorces?"

     

    Having said that, he opened up to Pi-Yeong quite a bit, even telling him about mourning his mother, and asking about her recent loss. That's the most words he's ever said to anyone so far.

     

    I honestly don't know if he has romantic interest in anyone. But what makes him an attractive figure is that he seems like a very proper person and good judgment of character who doesn't put up with BS. A rarity on this nutty show where everyone is a hot mess.

     

    This episode featured a random cameo by singer Park Sang-Min busking in Hongdae, while Ghost Grandpa danced along. Bonkers. :rolleyes:

     

    While I'm generally okay with Hyang-Gi, I don't think she gets to dictate whether her brother should spend time with their father or not. I think the choice should be his, just as she has the right to make her own choices. Having said that, I think Professor should clear it with his ex-wife before meeting with their kids.


    Actually I believe seo bans character could be to show wives grass is not really green on the other side ...all the wives think he is great man because he is mystirous and they don’t much about him but he may not be so.

     

    his judgement i seriously doubt , he favors nam ga bin and SW and now thinks man having an affair should not have his reputation tarnished . I will judge him more on after his stance once  he gets to know about Ga bin and SW.

     

    what should wives do , should they take blame and say it is just a mutual divorce instead of saying husband had an affair or an out of wedlock child ...

     

    BHR may be she will suffer a little but long term it will be ok , the fact is she got cheated on and she is the victim and there will be men who can see that. The rest will be gossip and people will mive  on from gossip .

     

    she may still be able to find suitors but PSH if something happens between him and SW , no parents in Thier right mind would give thier daughter to that vile man ever 

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  16. 2 minutes ago, Jcanqueen12 said:

    Also this show has been a major let down. I will excuse myself from this channel for the duration. I don't like the message that is being relayed both from the drama and here as well. Some stuff just really hit close to home and I believe many of you feel the same way. Rather than beating up the keyboard every weekend...I will rewatch Find me in your memory and maybe VIP for some vindication. 

    I have down this with other shows and  at the scene where I think is high point for the character I root for .

     

    But I believe the next episodes will be some kind of revenge from 40 and 50  wives and final confrontation between mistresses and wives.

     

    they will for sure paint BHR badly but I don’t have an issue and I will simply skips scenes if I don’t like parts or full .

     

     

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  17. It is clear BHR will not get seo ban who she fancies ... it was clear from season 1 that he is not into her  and

    most people including me shipped seo ban with the writer but last few episodes actually making me think he is not a good alternative for any of three wives and today’s episode confirmed he is just atypical man for wanting BHR not to put husband to shame ... he being part of broken home still does not understand the impact of affair on a women 

     

    I actually was quite disappointed that BHR and seo band brother plot did not progress but that too became apparent in last few episodes that writer does not intend to have him and her as potential pairs.

     

    the max that BHR will suffer from seo bans refusal is that hey there are some men who don’t fancy her but it I actually a blessing in disguise , she could actually date a few men and figure out coolly who she would pursue .

     

    she may suffer a short term set back because she is a divorced but she is a beautiful celebrity so I think she will live well .

     

     

    now that PSH and his family reputation is tatters I am least bothered what happens to them . 
     

     

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  18. 23 minutes ago, TheQueenReturns said:

    A marriage is not dead until death do you part or divorce. And I have a hot issue with that. A person should honor the marriage vows and work on their marriage. I could create an extensive list from season 1 to season 2, and BHR are will still come out looking like gold in comparison to what her husband and his parents did. 

     

    I think the people need to think the worst of bhr in order to justify their position which is they prefer mistress. I just see that I could give context, but it is really as simple as that. Even a criminal I believe is guilty is still deserving of a fair trial and I don't think the bhr is getting a fair Shake.  Bhr can be downright selfish at times, but she can also be loving. She is very loyal so when you betray someone that's loyal, they go hit you where it hurts.

     

    Certain people need to make bhr motivations inhumane and rotten just so they can justify whatever position they have taken. I said this a long time ago, people often use the wrong psychological term to try to conceptualize a person. We never got an opportunity to see the beginning of their marriage oh, because the writer saw fit to show us extensively long episodes of their affairs. Emotions changing in a marriage is not a Justified cause for divorce, but it is the main reason why 40% of marriages end in divorce because of the idea of love match marriages. So technically speaking, love match marriages overall simply do not work and they will not work with someone who is emotionally fickle like that girl's husband.

     

    You don't like bhr, that is cool, but are you really giving her a fair Shake? There are some characters that I can't stand that I really don't want to give a fair shake to. It might surprise you to know that I don't like bhr, nor dislike her but I'm able to empathize with everyone in that situation and at the same time say that her husband was most foul, the mistress was most foul, and that family was the foulest.

     

    I don't have to like a character in order to call wrong wrong. I don't have to dislike a character to see all their wrong. Offset from the beginning, this couple should have just worked on their marriage. There is not one marriage that is 100% Flawless before or after an affair. But many of these issues certainly could have been rectified, but they were not giving in. Bhr nor psh were giving in. Psh thinks that the grass is greener on the other side. This is his first marriage, he seems to think that because his feelings were so strong that his future marriage if it does happen we'll be all roses and flowers. He is going to be in for a rude awakening.

     

    I assure you that in my early twenties, early early twenties, I'll probably would be blaming solely bhr and  psh, but having to see it, live it, and deal with these issues clinically and professionally, I see them all as a big system of mess.

     

    That entire situation is a mess, but respectfully, it could have worked out even after the affair If the parents had scolded their son and then remained neutral and not triangled in the drama. Had bhr not even involve the parents any further about taking the the girls have doctor's appointments, had the mistress not coveted what was not hers, had communication been more effective. Had there been a true understanding in that marriage. Psh acts just like his mother. He has a very anxious avoidant attachment Style and those type of people seek security and will go elsewhere when they don't have it. The moment something threatens their security, they are already looking for a way out or they will be over pleasing to their partner until they find a way out.

     

    Personally, I think that we all are giving the writer of too much credit because this all seems a bit plot-driven. Any one of these characters can change their personality in a matter of seconds because of the plot

     

    That is right. You know it was a big culture shock to me to see on dramas where men push down women or just beat them in public because of their anger. For example, the boss yelling at women and pushing them down was like what? So given the circumstance, they may not be mad and B HR for breaking the dish and going after the mistress. Korean culture is about honor and shame. What the husband did and what the mistress did will be seen in the context of honor and shame . Debt collectors show up at your house and kick your door in so they're probably said she got what she deserved for messing with a married man. I'm saying this because I understand the culture now and the mentality. I personally hate that she went after her with a broken dish. That was a bit over-the-top, but within that culture they will call the Mistress of hypocrite and since she is Catholic she would be denied communion. Now all the people of the faithful don't necessarily do not communion, but devout Catholic Bishops the whole to the tenets of the Catholic faith with most certainly died. Her communion and will not give her communion  upon marriage. There may be even a question if her baby will be able to be baptized. 

    Worst has been shown in kdrama how wides deals with affair , all husbands get hit , and I believe trying to strangulate husband with a pillow while they sleep is popular depiction .  Some fed husband with toilet water. There is also a saying , the persons commenting cheating may feel it as love or what ever shot but on the cheated person it is violence . And kimchi or water slaps , hair pulling cat fights between mistress and wife are commonly shown in kdrama.


    BHR hitting PSH was a normal and rather mild reaction and no it will be not be called as abuse . They will take it as righteous anger of the wife who was deceived .

  19. 20 minutes ago, TheQueenReturns said:

    Whether it was healthy or unhealthy, marriage is still marriage. Whether it's passionate or platonic, marriage is still marriage and should be honored. And as I said before, had bhr told the whole truth, the parents would have came out looking worse than what they already have. I hate that she didn't tell the whole truth. As a matter of fact, she should just go ahead and give them detail by detail of everything her husband and the family did.  So people are people. If a person doesn't like a person, they can justify anything bad that happens to them because of their perceived character flaws.

     

    And the person who dishonoured those vows was the man that cheated no matter how much this is remixed, the fault is on him and because the family decided to abet the crime, them!

    And also release her medical reports that she coughed blood due to the stress caused by affair ... media would paint psh and parents as devils 

  20. 33 minutes ago, agenth said:

     

    They didn't flaunt baby in her face. They were just honest that there was going to be a baby. They didn't brag, or flaunt anything. It's just the reality that PSH cheated and got Song Wan pregnant, but he was hardly someone who was trying to hook up with Song Wan every chance he got, unlike Dr. Shin's smooth cheating ways. 

     

    The parents didn't throw money at her, BHR demanded expensive house in chaebol neighbourhood in order to entice other rich men. Plus, she made them pay taxes because she "has no money". She got her dues. AND THEN SOME. 

     

    And she did do wrong with press conference: She lied, making it seem like she was kicked out, didn't get what she wanted, only scraps (as if a house in such upscale neighborhood was something to sneer at, it cost millions). She was making a media circus to make others pay in blood. 

     

    It's funny you say the affair is an insult to her marriage. What marriage? It was hardly that of health and nourishing love. It was very cold and controlling. 

     

    But I do agree on your last point, Seo Ban is certainly no big catch, he is just someone who likes to keep his options open. His only charm is that he isn't a notorious cheater. 


    they did flaunt , PSH tried to use baby as a leverage to push the divorce when she did not agree Immidiately after affair , the parents as soon as they heard baby,  thought of getting rid of BHR,  only after she cried in front of them they used baby to get her to have baby and save the marriage . They wanted her to be polite for her being older and considerate because she was pregnant. Baby was used a shield to protect the mistress 

     

    they threw money at her , yes they did . Why do you think they agreed to pay all taxes because they were super happy she agreed for divorce not because they genuinely wanted to provide for her, heck PSH bad mom were unhappy about money  , there was no ounce of sympathy for BHR or shame that thier son cheated . She asked them get the mistress away from thier Kiev’s , they instead embedded more into their lives , they were planning to invite her to their family home .

     

    PSH was after her from thier dinner date , he kissed her that night and both were pursuing each other , they slept once but that does not change the fact that they cheated and were just waiting for divorce to happen , why he was not like yusin , May be her traveling and her pregnancy has hindered their sleeping pet but they indulged in full fledged emotional affair , rings and plans for baby .

     

    how ever bad wife she was , they were still in a marriage and affair is an insult to that marriage and her .

     

    the reason divorce exist is to part ways if it does not work out , here PSH used it as a tool after affair .


    biggest  reason no one apologized to BHR for PSH affair , he and his others deserve all the shame they are getting .

     

    they forgot they had daughters at home when they cozying up to the mistress.

     

    she did not say they kicked her out .  But according to me and anyone who listens to this story will the think same . Exception for people who side with mistress .

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  21. 43 minutes ago, partyon said:

    @ktcjdrama @hsmz I am with you on this one.

    BHR's revenge was petty and it was beneath her. I'm disappointed in her, but not surprised.

     

    Does she really think that she will get her way (i.e. snatch a chaebol sound engineer) by destroying 4-5 people's lives? Potentially more?


    She allowed her ex-husband to be doxxed, which means that he may never be able to practice law ever again (because no company will hire him). She also threw her parents in law under the bus and outright lied that she had only taken what they had offered her (when she actually specifically told them what she wanted), as well as, lied about who asked for the divorce.

    Song Won is almost due to give birth - she doesn't need the extra stress right now. And what about the baby?

    What about PSH's brother and family?

     

    She gave no consideration when she decided to lie and manipulate the story so that she alone would look innocent and impress Seo Ban. Lady, it's not a good look on you. Not all. :rage:

     

    She's been selfish and abusive from the start, so I guess we should applaud her for being consistent throughout the drama. I feel extremely sorry for the people whose lives she ruined due to her ego....

     

    People who go for revenge normally only hurt themselves in the process. They think people will comply with their demands, and that the party they want to hurt will respect them more. Actually it always does the opposite. The person that the avenger hurt will only hate and disrespect the avenger more. And they will definitely not comply with the avenger's demands.

     

    I hope that BHR will face karma by the end of this drama. She's done too many bad deeds to be allowed to go scot-free.

     

    Next week we will see 30s and 40s wife fight it out who will win Seo Ban. Too bad I think that he will choose 50s wife....

    Did PSH and mistress think about BHR or were considerate to her when they cheated and flaunted baby in her face , were the parents in law considerate when they practically invited the mistress to thier stay in thier home ...

     

    why is the onus on her to be considerate to them . They threw money at her to get rid of her , it was smart of her to have demanded things , anyway it was her right to demand things as part of divorce . They could have said no but they were too happy to let her go.

     

    she did not say anything wrong in the press conference , he cheated , he asked for divorce and the women is pregnant ..

     

    they should suffer for making another human being go through the the affair which is an insult to her and her marriage .

     

    seo ban is no big catch even if she does not win him, she can live alone instead of some preachy men In her life. 

    Even if PSH shares things from his side first question that will be asked is if he had an affair and baby out of wedlock and why he did not divorce her if he was unhappy .  They is no escaping out of affair .

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  22. I can actually make this my last episode  if they are going to trash BHR in next episodes .

     

    i loved the revenge and the RickRoll'D PSH will end up as a RickRoll'D in news that will be now forever his legacy and the illegitimate child will read about it some day how trashy it’s parents are. Good enough revenge I say.

     

    i hope nam ga bins news comes out soon too how she is a mistress and how 50s husband is a cheater ... I don’t want the handsome you g bro to end up with her . If the scandal hits , his parents will not accept a mistress .

     

    Seo van lost my favor in last few episodes , he is trash views and is really not worth any of the three wives .
     

    I want to see PSH parents slandered more and trash talked in media till they loose thier trout ion . How easily they kicked the wife in spite of having two grand daughters .

     

    3 hours ago, TheQueenReturns said:

    She was only paying them in kind with the multiple faces that had on with her the entire time they was helping her son to continue his affair. So no, she's not despicable. The fact they were still talking trash after that happened shows you how Despicable they are. The fact that they tried to justify the cheating by saying that that BHR was making her SON out to be some SINFUL cheater when he is, shows that they got everything they deserve. They have been putting on the front for months but they're not wrong?

     

    A bigger betrayal of love? Please tell me how. I am dying to know why the woman who was cheated on is the biggest betrayal of love when her in-laws was in on it. She divorced her husband because she found out that she could not get pregnant and because he's a cheater. Never mind the fact the whole entire family cheated with him.

    I am amazed how people think she should just not say anything at all for her own well-being and safeguarding her career .

     

    actually she did not slander anyone , she stated truth . If husband was not afraid of cheating why should they be affraid of their affair coming out .

     

    my only problem is sangwon nit got exposed , I want to see suffer too media should player her face all over with a black paint of mistress on her face . That would be great legacy for her child 

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