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2 hours ago, classyviews said:
Okay finally key issues addressed.
For all, this is a break not BREAK-UP.
Dam is human and doesnt understand what a Gumiho needs to do to become HUMAN
its very grey.
The main reason I think WY still hasnt become one is because he is , a) has empathy in a odd way. He feels guilty for stealing energy plus I think he only chooses women who he thinks he likes in some fashion.
FOr his looks, he would have had many throw themselves at him and his reluctance is cause he wanted something more each time. That's a complicated human emotion he doesnt understand.
b) Dam needs to know about Gumihos. she has only seen WY's soft and good side. She needs to see all of it.
Hye Sun was right when she said that Dam only know half of who WY actually is and I think the MG also makes the same point. Sure she still likes him as a Gumiho, but maybe she is thinking he a fluffy fox albeit nine tails.
Dont forget when she saw his full form, he was FLUFFY.
Okay that aside, my main gripe was how long drawn the conflict was. For a webtoon I get it as its a small space but this is an hour long drama.
Frankly, they could have finished the Seo Woo conflict last episode and finished this break this episode.
And I feel like Dam's character has lost a bit of spunk. She is just always always worried about him.
These are some REALLY interesting points you bring up. I was pretty upset about Dam being angry at Woo-yeo this episode for odd reason. To Dam's perspective - absolutely, any woman would be upset seeing their boyfriend kiss someone else - but she KNEW that that HAD to happen in order for Woo-yeo to become human, to take energy from others to give the marble energy. I think it's an interesting viewpoint change for Woo-yeo too because as you mentioned, he wanted more every time but now that he has Dam, I think Woo-yeo's game plan has shifted a bit to only wanting energy to make the marble blue to be with Dam as a human and not a fox.
I also agree that the Seo-woo conflict could have and should have been solved last episode when she rejected him outright. It was pretty darn obvious that Dam had a boyfriend and it just made Seo-woo look too desperate when nothing was going to happen between them, even if the red thread is tying them together.
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I think it's a good path that Dam and Woo-yeo are taking, I mean, she's practically making him every single emotion that he's never felt before. I don't think it's the energy that Woo-yeo is taking from women why the marble is turning blue but it's because the emotions. In some shape or form, the mountain spirit is really pushing and shoving him in a good direction to become a human before his 1,000 deadline.
I have not read the webtoon before but goodness me, I thought JKY nailed that last few 10 seconds of episode 11. THE TEARS JUST SWELLING RIGHT THERE- Oof - I felt that pain from Woo-yeo having to let Dam go like that. I find that it's also pretty... ironic that Seon-woo is the FIRST one to find out about Dam and Woo-yeo's relationship - quite interesting too. I can't wait until Soo-kyung and Jae-jin finds out.... Bet Soo-kyung will freak out.
The dynamic between Jae-jin and Hye-sun is also pretty interesting this episode; they kind of silently turn into a real couple, even though they often talk and there's always (lol) a miscommunication between them. Can't wait for next week (at least I know that they'll be back together by next episode
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I finished the episode and it was quite toying with my emotion (again). And which kdrama is complete without a subway ad? And this time, even Dam is WORKING in a Subway store.
So I initially thought that the Mountain God didn't put that string on there, but destiny/fate did... So I guess... MG put it there on Dam and Seon-woo? That's quite... messed up. And it sounds like Woo-yeo is pissed about it too (obviously).
I thought we were promised a scene where Dan breaks in on Woo-yeo and Dam in her room- is that episode 11? lol. Did they put it in the wrong preview?
Is anyone as curious as to why Soo-kyung hates the senior THAT much? What the heck happened two years ago? (Also screaming over the misunderstanding between Hye-sun and Jae-jin).
…Okay but like... Did anyone get weak after Woo-yeo said "Dam-ah" instead of "Dam-ii-shi?" My heart practically melted...
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I feel like episode 9 and 10 were really nice for me. Episode 9 had some fluff and conflict point while episode 10 was more of a "back to square 1 and then 10 in 60 minutes".
Some folks are saying that Dam should end up with Seon-woo because they're both humans and they're destined to be because of the red thread. I really applaud Dam for sticking with Woo-yeo; he's a flawed character (like all of the characters in here) but Dam's certainty to be with him and only him took away a lot of that flaw of him being uncertain to just about everything.
I think the mountain spirit is really trying to force Woo-yeo to up his game with only half a year left. If he doesn't turn human (make that marble blue...), he's basically going to become an evil spirit (maegu) and there'll be no going back from that. He merely showed Woo-yeo the red string between Seo-woo and Damto make him DO something, sort of like a message of: "If you become human in this half a year, then you can be with her." It'll be interesting to see how Woo-yeo "changes destiny" and from the preview, it looks like he's set out to grab their destiny and twist it his way... like how he twisted Dam's shirt to prevent her from falling... and not to pick a fight...
I really want to see how Dan reacts to his sister and Woo-yeo (in bed too? WHAT. Maybe my sister was just- hungry---) together. I wonder if Woo-yeo will just shapeshift (again) into Soo-kyung to pretend like they're having a conversation or sleepover... Just a guess! I thought it was SO funny when Woo-yeo shape shifted into Jae-jin today and took Dam by the hand; she was SO shocked and so was Seon-woo!
Onto another week (cries) of waiting game! Until Wednesday...!
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I literally thought that the fox bead would have been returned at like episode 14, so having it returned at episode 7 first of all is another breakthrough for it. I'm so appreciative of this drama not wasting time to get on with the storyline at all.
And ha, someone said it - but they definitely held that still at episode 7 to get us to hang on for episode 8. Well, it worked for me - I'm going back for an episode 8 tomorrow! I think we can already imagine and know that Dam is not going to lose her memory whatsoever... Or maybe she will and it'll come back to her in fragments? I mean, I can't imagine a Dam that doesn't yell "old man" at Woo-yeo every chance she gets. Is episode 8 going to be "orishin-less" episode...?
In the preview, it also looks like Woo-yeo is going to speak at Dam's class just to take a peek at how she's doing - ahhh, I'm about to cry over here. Someone feed me the next episode already!
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I've decided to join in here for the discussion! I've just got so much on my mind.
To start, I think the drama definitely set a good foundation. I thought it was going to take the route of "Dam is the reincarnation of my first love" type of cliché but it ended up NOT doing that. I was SO grateful it didn't go down that path here.
I personally love KHN's character of Hye-sun and where she just straight up took off her shoes in front of Jae-jin lol! There are so many scenes where I find myself laughing because it's so funny, like where Dam got niece-zoned (waaaay worst than being friend-zoned).
I definitely find myself (desperately) waiting for more scenes with Woo-yeo and Dam though, I think their chemistry is off the charts! Where I'm most questioning is... So if the marble is taken out, Woo-yeo is afraid that Dam will forget him and personally, I don't think that'll happen. I just hope that they won't wait until the last episode to tell us that and leave out all the other romantic scenes (I live for ittttt!)
Also, did anyone kinda shed a tear when they showed Woo-yeo's back story? Oof! He saw his first love die because of his selfishness of wanting to spend more time with her... And the way that she already knew he was collecting her energy too- RIGHT IN THE FEELS.
I've seen theories of people saying that Dam's mom was once a gumiho but I think that's false. Woo-yeo even said that his magic doesn't work on strong minded people and if their family motto is "live your life on your own", that would sort of explain it all... lol. I'm definitely looking forward to every Wednesday/Thursday now!
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Folks... It's time to stop coming to this thread. The drama ended. It's time to move on.
I'M KIDDING. I'VE BEEN TELLING MYSELF THAT FOR A WHOLE WEEK. Let's just stay on here and discuss. I'm here for it. I can't let go of this drama yet.
I still haven't gotten over the ending, I haven't watched the deleted scenes yet, I haven't watched the last episode's BTS... I haven't even heard KJH's OST!
...I hope everyone can share more things here.
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10 minutes ago, aisling said:
His answers were quite diplomatic. Fans are forgetting he can’t criticise Mr Queen writers publicly, so his answers were more or less defending the writers’ decisions. Fans are also forgetting Bong Hwan is a guy, so I think Jung Hyun was being subtle with this topic.
He’s defending the writers’ decisions but he still know the reactions to the ending are mixed, that a lot of people are disappointed.
I had to laugh to at part when he said So Yong would hate it if Cheoljong liked Bong Hwan better.
This makes me realise that despite So Yong getting her happy ending with Cheoljong... it’s mostly a bittersweet ending for three people involved.
- Bong Hwan left someone he loved deeply behind. Will he be able to love someone like this again? Will he find someone who’d challenge him intellectually and emotionally like this? Imagine living the rest of your life remembering you experienced this epic love story.
- Cheoljong will keep wondering about the changes in his wife. Not only the mannerisms, language, but also her intellect. Those deep night conversations about democracy will be no more. He will always feel like he lost something significant while looking at the Queen’s dictionary.
- So Yong will be feeling like an imposter in her own body. She will be wondering for the rest of her life who Cheoljong truly liked. She should feel ashamed about taking her own life and that someone else literally saved her, her husband and the country. I keep wondering how does she feel knowing all those personal traits Cheoljong confessed he came to like belonged to Bong Hwan. How will she feel whenever she looks at the Queen’s dictionary?
Your analysis of it made it harder for me to digest. Not because you're right, it's because you're right. Surely, KJH has to defend and not openly critique the ending that he was given in the script. I believe the team knows that folks online aren't quite content with the ending that BH just got kicked back into modern times and SB became SY again. I can't wipe 19 episodes of that lovey dovey, kissing scenes, cooking scenes, all of that chemistry, just for the drama to tell me "hey, look, SY is back".
Your analysis of the three characters is right. BH had wanted to go back to his own times so perhaps it would be a bit easier for him, but you're so on the dot when you mentioned how BH would move on after experiencing that epic love story with CJ as a woman, nonetheless. And if HJ had such a huge reaction after seeing the Queen's dictionary, I can imagine that it's not going to look pretty for SY either. However, I'm just thinking that if SB had memories of SY from the past, perhaps SY would also have memories of SB/BH and what he's gone through in her body during all this time. This was first caught (by me at least) when SY awoke and stabbed KJG with her hair pin in the leg to stop him by killing CJ.
Honestly, I've said this in like 3 posts by now but a) I'll just take Bamboo Forest as the ending, b) Since SHS plays both SY/SB, I'll just take that it's a good ending and that the chemistry didn't go to waste.
(Did anyone kinda sense that a genuine cute smile came from KJH multiple times when SHS was doing some crazy SB stunts? Like... while they were eating a burning yam?)
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3 hours ago, skinnyjeans said:
I second you.
I had been in this situation before (Mr. Sunshine), but I think this one is little bit harder for me to really accept it.
Maybe some people think that we are overreacting, they probably won't understand that we really invested our mind and heart not only into the main actor and actress whose acting skill are outstanding, but also to the story. And the problem is, we had high expectation on the story.
There are flaws and loopholes in the screenwriting which even the Extra series (Secret Bamboo Forest) can't really cover it. I think that's what we all have to admit, even though some are satisfied with the ending.
I try to find the closure, by reading some of the arguments of why the ending makes sense. I'm trying to be open with it. It's just a drama afterall, right..
However, KJH's answer last night then remind me something of what true love or marriage is and what we missed:
"It doesn't matter whose soul in the body, what matters is how cheoljong chose how to see So Yong from his perspective and fell in love with her that way"
Human is the most dynamic creature in this universe. People change. And in the marriage we'll see things that we don't see while we are dating, and we'll see many many parts of our spouse that are hidden before. And accepting our spouse for what she/he is, regardless the changes, is what I think true love. Loving you as you are, no matter how crazy, weird, unstable, inconsistent, and imperfect you are. I once watched this documentary about a married couple whose spouse is having multiple/dissociative personality disorder, she has not only two different personalities, but more, and her husband accepts and loves her as she is and take care of her.
So CJ must realize the changes of SY, but all this long he only sees SY as SY who is weird since they were kids and even weirder when she is grown up, he doesn't see SB, he sees SY that way and accepts and loves her as she is.
I think it'll be a closure for me, regardless the loopholes here and there in the screenwriting. But yeah, I need to move on.
And I'm so happy that Kim Jung Hyun as Cheoljong got recognition he deserves (his IG followers now is finally reach 1M from only about 250k in the beginning of Mr. Queen!). Shin Hye Sun, no doubt she is brilliant actress, both are talented and like piece of puzzle they fit to each other, complete each other and we could see their awesome dynamics and amazing chemistry on screen.
I will definitely watch their other work in the future.
This. It took me a while to move on from Mr. Sunshine too, I feel you there. I think I found a bit more closure after hearing KJH's answer. CJ even said even if SY has lots of flaws and isn't a perfect person, no matter what, he'll still love her. And that's true, I think CJ just thought SY was a bit crazy, even when BH entered the screen. Surely enough, he knew SY was quite nontraditional but with BH being dominant, she was off the rails. Even with BH gone, I'm sure CJ would still love SY. I think what got majority of folks disappointed is the whole: "I feel like I lost something" and the "Why are you speaking so formally? Are you plotting another surprise?" I think those lines broke a lot of people.
I seriously need to move on (more difficult than said).
The main actors REALLY fit so well with one another. I would absolutely watch another drama with them in it. Toward the end, with all of the loopholes in the plot/writing, I just took it as SHS/KJH moments (they played the whole drama anyway despite the soul combinations) which I enjoyed. I'll just take the Bamboo Forest ending as the true ending, whatever.
20 minutes ago, Maliah said:For me, it’s not the lack of a “happy ending”that upsets me. I knew getting into this I had to keep my expectations low. It’s the approach that was taken that’s disappointing. It’s like the writers are trying to convince me to discard all the developments that took place in the previous 19 episodes and......I’m unable to do that. At the end of the day, though, it is a show ,and life must go on.
Thank you so much for telling me KJH’s Instagram! I wasn’t aware of that ,and it made my day. He deserves that and more. I might be in the minority here because I came because of KJH not SHS. I wanted to heal from CLOY, which is rather ironic now. I guess KJH’s dramas are forever destined to leave me with unresolved emotions *sigh*. Despite all, I’m glad that along with KJH I was exposed to and came to appreciate SHS’s talent. I wish nothing but the best for all the actors involved.Me. Too. I went to the drama for KJH (he didn't disappoint, of course). I cried like a baby in CLOY and wanted to semi break from that heartbreak. Only to find a bigger heartbreak for KJH's character, ahhhhhhh! Crying again, brb. Nevertheless, like I said many many many many times, I will not hesitate to jump right in to watch another one of their dramas if they were cast together- historical or modern, I don't care. They have an amazing chemistry.
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59 minutes ago, realistic2280a said:
Even the palace maids were scared of her... and i doubt it was made up? Mind you, between her selection and wedding as the queen, wasnt that long and Bong Wan took over her body before she became the queen, so we shall see if she was really mean inbetween?
Based on the first episode, SY worked hard to be top of the queen selection and was willing to leave if she didnt find the king attractive, so it was doubtful if she managed to turn bad in a span of a week, maybe?
But perhaps, after she got upset with the King and Concubine Jo, after seeing their affection together? Hmmm
Ok, im not sure why the bashing over the ending.. even Bong Wan wasnt mad about it, he just wanted the King to be alive be happy and rule justly... why do people want BW to be trapped in the body and his other body lying to rot on the hospital bed? I mean, seriously? SY still have some BW's characreristics (mostly great cooking skills and rudeness?), which might not be dominant now, but she still have some pieces of it (the confrontation with the Old queen)
On the question of what BW received at the end of this adventure? A lesson in history; a great trip down in 200 years old Korea; be part of of the palace politics, and king! which one only see in dramas; feels how to be a woman rather than a man, him being a playboy and all; a big lesson to him hopefully and he will treat woman better in the future? Hahahha...
My only complaint over the drama is over its length, should have been 16 episodes instead of 20... and now we have the Bamboo Forest episodes t
I think So-yong was mean to many maids and servants because she wanted out. She hated the palace politics and the fact that the GQD threatened her to monitor her husband and to stay in the palace. In a few episodes, it was shown that SY didn't want to monitor CJ because SY truly loved him so SY wanted out and out of Kim clan's control.
I agree with you... BH got a lot more than he asked for. Changed history, got a King, brought new vocabulary and really changed for the better when he went back to the future.
I am just gonna take the drama as is since both characters were portrayed by SHS lol. I'm just gonna take this as a sageuk love story between SHS and KJH and enjoy their chemistry for what it is. I wouldn't complain if I heard "YA. CHEOLJONG-AH" a few more times, those were hilarious. Is anyone taking the Bamboo Forest second episode as a better ending than the actual drama? I feel like that 2nd episode was set in the same timeline where Sobong didn't leave (since KBI wasn't there at the end when the firework went off).
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34 minutes ago, Annie12 said:
I liked the ending. I watched the whole show from the perpective of both souls in one body.
SB was supposed to go back and SY gain her body back. I dont think it was fair for SY not to be fully present.
Also i dont believe that SY is the same as HJ. HJ purposely acted as she was SY whereas SY was inhabited by SB without her consent and also SY was there all along.. And by how SY was going to explain this? Hmm CJ a man from the future was living inside me?
-SB was the link for SY and the King to come close. Even though SB was controling her body SY was always there but not be able to come out completely. They coexisted somehow.
-Lets not forget that the king had always feelings for SY but her being a Kim clan did not allow him to get o know her better.
-SY wondered if that man had gone eventually. Meaning she was aware if his presence.
-i think SY and SB shared some similar characteristics but in different time periods thus the difference in using honorifics. The King said that he new SY was a bit crazy. She was weird from the begining.
-The heart fluttering was SY not SB (this had suprised SB anyway)
-The talking with the her father and speaking at the same time (when SB was there and after he left, when only SY) shows that SY was there all along.
-Kim Byong In said to SB/SY "if you have memories of her she must be still inside you"
- When SY was cursing at the last episode just like SB did, she wondered perhaps SB had awaken her true self.
how do we know that SY wouldn't have acted the same way when CJ was suppposed to be dead? In the last episode when she took off her hairpin and stubbed Jwa Geun or when she told CJ to go inside and she will be ok even though she was hurting, shows that she had it in her.
What i would have changed is to have an internal battle between SY and SB. It would have been more funny.
I agree with this. I think I'm going to have a re-watch with the perspective of two souls sharing one body between SB and SY. I also think that CJ from the beginning to the end had loved SY - like you said, she was a bit weird from the beginning anyway. It was so refreshing to see that from the spinoff, SY was chasing around to see CJ but in the drama (toward the end), CJ was chasing around to see SY at the same place in the palace. I absolutely agree that the heart fluttering was SY- that when CJ was "chasing" SY/SB, that it was still SY who felt it. Although I definitely side with you that SB was surprised that he had kind of felt something too.
And YES- the way that SY had cursed in her room- bwhaha- I could tell that she definitely was a wild card and SB had awoken her ACTUAL self. She hated the palace and was rude/mean because she couldn't escape but now that the palace was safe and that CJ was around to protect her (and vice versa), SY could be her actual self and be true to herself.
...Can anyone actually tell me where those icy little ducks turned out? I saw SHS and KJH playing with the snowy ducks but.... the drama and spinoffs didn't show those little ducks? Not complainin'- they're adorable with their chemistry. Havin' a mini self-protest here wanting another drama from them... like... in the near future...?
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nope, nope, nope. I can't let go of this drama yet (am I alone?) I watched 20 episodes and the two spin-off episodes but there seems to be a void in me? I watched 19.5 episodes thinking that it was a soul swap between Bong-Hwan and So-yong but it was a soul combination? It feels as if the writers didn't give me that vibe for 19 episodes? I mean, sure- I got that gist from time to time that So-yong and Bong-Hwan were in one body but whaaaaaaaaat? The ending wasn't unexpected to me but jeez, that last line from Cheoljong BROKE me. The whole "Why are you speaking formally to me? Are you plotting a surprise?" AHHHHH, no Cheoljong- no more surprises now... But I am almost so sure that Cheoljong already knows THE moment that So-bong left and So-yong returned. Surely Cheoljong feels as if something is gone, but if So-yong retained memories of Bong-Hwan (which I assume she did)... So-yong can hopefully play that double role of So-bong! (Maybe?)
And plus, from the spinoff episode, it looks like So-yong and Cheoljong fell in love at first sight... Soooooo.... It's only natural that Cheoljong will love So-yong no matter what she becomes of. I mean, yes- Cheoljong went through all of those hardships with So-bong but nevertheless, I still believe that So-yong was THERE through it all.
Like many here have voiced, Bong-Hwan pulled off all of the heavy lifting, went to war with Cheoljong, went through 19 episodes but ALL of that hardship but then So-yong scoops in? Whaaaaaaaaat? I completely also get that there was no way that Bong-Hwan was staying in So-yong's body forever and this was the only happy ending ever accepted in this universe.
I guess the only good thing that I can see is that So-yong has that wild instinct of Bong-Hwan and has retained memory. My wild imagination has brought me to hear So-yong also becoming that wild free spirit that constantly calls out "Cheoljong" instead of "Your Majesty". If someone made a compilation of So-Bong calling "Cheoljong" and of Cheoljong's "Queen", that would be so cool lol.
Anyway- I have accepted this ending as the best possible ending for the two (crying for Kim Byeong-in brb) but I will also take the spin-off as the ending too. The spin offs were too cute to ignore. Love jealous Cheoljong.
... I feel like I've been writing endlessly and blabbering so perhaps none of this makes sense but one thing makes sense which is this was one of the best dramas I've watched thus far and this was an amazing cast! I loved the chemistry between all of the cast, especially SHS and KJH! I hope that there will be another project for them both in the future! I would LOVE for them to be in a modern drama with a true happy ending. 
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Sooo. I caught up here on the forum and on the episodes... Can anyone relate when the CJ wrote that heartbreaking note for the baby and he was "dead"? I was crying but was immediately happy again when the CJ wasn't dead!
Not helping BI much here but I truly hope there is some sort of trail to redemption for him. I know his obsession with SY is not healthy (for him and for her) but the fact that he is willing to turn his back on the Kim clan and his entire family and name for SY says a lot here. I was definitely taken away from the preview for episode 19 where BI could be heard saying: "You're not SY... But you have her memories so SY is still (in) you." And Na In-woo plays BI to the zenith of ACTUALLY making me feel pity/bad for BI. Darn those puppy eyes with rage and anger! Ugh! *Insert the King's ROAR here* lol.
I thought the entire story where SB escapes the place to find CJ was a bit strange(?). They locked the palace gate and Hanyang's gates and so she just walks right out with her two maids and arrow through GUARDS? Not even gonna bring up the baby right now because that's just crazy to even think of at the moment. Kinda curious if it was to plan a road/story where BI has a redemption, etc. Looking forward to surprises like when SY shot an arrow at BI's leg or when Jo Hwa-Jin came into the palace and was so thankful (I loved how she came around by the way).
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37 minutes ago, strongtower said:
How many episodes is this drama?
20 episodes! And also 6 10-minute spin-offs, I believe.
31 minutes ago, Sobayaki said:Did Hwa Jin seriously just come to say that 1 line to the Queen and leave?
Jeez!
But this episode was seriously hilarious. I can't believe I caught up and now have to wait one week for the next episode. I'm so excited to see King and Queen working together finally!
HONESTLY. Hwa Jin just trotted over and said "ha, look. Now you know how I felt." Like whaaaaat.
Like many, I think my top episode was also episode 9 but now it's DEFINITELY 14. This was SO action packed, I had to go back and make sure I got my ideas right. I am happy that SB knew it was CJ, first off- admitting that she (using this pronoun for convenience) would have liked it if it was CJ or HY regardless. At this point, I think SB likes CJ too but is trying hard to push/subside these feelings. Did anyone laugh as hard as I did when CJ tried to chase SB all over the palace? Ugh, his puppy eyes when he was in DJJ Hall saying that he was going to wait for her. UGH. He got me (too). Of course then he recites the poem she writes and EVERRRRYBODY just straight up wants to laugh. Why hasn't anyone said anything about the concubines shipping SB and CJ? That was the cuuuutest thing ever! Those concubines were on our same boat! (I can also never get out of my head KJH's "roar" - thank you. That was so adorable.)
The blind lady played both sides and I was a bit shocked when I knew CJ had kept tabs through his guards to make sure that SB was safe... But the way that he went back to the palace right away after hearing about the Kim's plot- oooooooooof. Can't believe they tried to kill SB because she ruined their plans of taking out the king. Ridiculous. But I think it's quite evident that CJ really cares about SB through little details like the hand squeezing, assuring her that everything was going to be okay type of motion.
I screamed at the end when he crossed his finger! I don't think HD (the little girl) died. They must have put on a show for those two clans to see. I'm definitely looking forward to this alliance between the King and Queen- I think they're gonna dominate so hard together!
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Sooooooooo. I haven't been back here in a LONG. LONG. Time. This drama made me come back and discuss- man, it's so thrilling, comedic, action packed... I'm basically laughing and then serious for 1hr and 30 mins.
I'm all caught up and on episode 13 (desperately waiting for 14)! I feel like I don't have a lot to share but I think we can all agree HJ is a whole *rolls eyes* package. Her agenda is still quite clear though- she just wants to get rid of SB/SY so that no one can get in between her and the King. Even when she saw the Queen's Dictionary, HJ kinda took a side glance and chose to ignore it. Face it, HJ... CJ is knee deep in love with SB!
I thought CJ was so cool this episode, strolling into the hall, telling KJG and Queen Sunwon off and then threatening to dismiss everyone- maaaaaan, that took my breath away.
I didn't watch the C-version of this (only snippets) so I can't comment between the two, but I hope that the K-drama version can give us a happy ending between either SB/SY and CJ. They went through too much to not be together (but then there's also the undeniable chemistry so...) I also thought the "brunch" part was so funny, how the Queen Dowager made up stories to make herself seem more relatable and younger than Queen Sunwon lol.
I have a bit of a second lead syndrome because BI is so (cute) handsome, but NO. I do not ship BI with SB/SY whatsoever. Absolutely not. What he did was such a creep move- I'm so glad SB told him OFF. I can't wait to see how the Queen and the King's relationship goes from here. I can only assume that the King will protect the Queen knowing that she's in trouble with her own clan. So grateful we don't have to wait another week for another episode.
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So... I'm really enjoying this series so far-- but it's likely the first where I'm not picturing what the ending MAY even look like. At first, I thought YR was going to come and make everyone happy and then leave to "go up", but then, YR started getting attached (emotionally) to her family and friends (I mean, obviously!). At first, I thought GH and MJ were happy so YR shouldn't break that up-- but now they're both drowning in misery. MJ is constantly crying, in belief that her husband is miserable, and that there's a barrier between the two of them, namely Cha Yu-ri.
By that staircase scene alone, I think we can definitely tell that YR still means the world to GH. We can't make the blind assumption that YR means more to GH than MJ but it's apparent that GH still loves YR. Many times, he's held himself back from physically touching her (in fear that he may emotionally cling onto her again) but this time, flooded by emotions, GH holds onto YR. I don't think he's blaming YR for saving the baby rather than herself, but he's saying: "If I had a choice, you would've been it."
I think Seo-woo deserves to know that the "aunt" is her biological mother, regardless if she understands. But then again, the other factor we have to consider is that SW's first maternal figure was MJ so is introducing another mother to SW going to be difficult, or better for the child?
I thought the line that hit me the hardest was: "The most desperate thing to say isn't 'I want to die', it's 'I want to live'". That was powerful.
I am sure that if YR dies again, her parents and sister would be devastated. I'm quite sure that the deities didn't send her on this journey as a reward, but as a punishment- for her to see how her death impacted the lives of so many others around her because again, the focus is: your life isn't only your own (which was also one of the themes of the one of the earlier episodes). Now that GH knows that YR is going to die AGAIN- I'm wondering what he'll do to change that (if he wants to).
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I don't regret starting this drama but I regret not buying enough tissue. Episode 3-4 has been such a blessing to cry over; the storyline and some of the lines that have been said are almost gold. I definitely cried when the shaman said that there was no word to describe a parent's loss of their child because the pain is excruciating. I'm somewhat glad that Yuri's mom is attending these sessions to somewhat provide a little bit of "therapy" for herself, although we all know that she'll never be able to get over Yuri's death.
From this episode and its flashbacks, I think we can all assume that Yuri was having the best of life with her friends; and HJ was giving birth only a week before she was due. Everyone was smiling in the flashback and everyone expected a tomorrow that would come. It really pained me in the epilogue as well when they showed Gang-hwa and Yuri making a bet of who would cry when the baby gets here first- I think we can also infer that Yuri won the bet because she shed a tear as the baby was being taken out of her almost lifeless body before she passed. I still feel like there's something about MJ and those divorce papers. Maybe the shaman was right, that something was already in progress or maybe MJ and GH never actually wedded (I think I'm seeing that GH's wedding band hasn't changed and he's still wearing the matching one that he and Yuri shared).
Can't wait for next week.
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Oh no, hoping for the best for the staff for the news above!
But I definitely didn't cry during the episode. I cried during the epilogue. I think MJ is hiding something but I can't point to what it is yet. In my opinion, although it's still pretty early, I think GH still hasn't moved past Yuri and still loves her.
Also- those divorce papers that MJ is holding! What are they!? So many mysteries but not yet any answers!
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I agree with a lot of these previous threads that I've been seeing... While I do love the entire back story of Yuri and her husband- meeting in college, dating and then eventually starting their own family happily, their chemistry from the get-go was unbreakable. Yuri's sudden death really impacted her husband's life (he can no longer perform surgeries because he believes that he's caused his wife to die) and her parents. I wouldn't mind it if Yuri stayed, but I also wouldn't mind it if Yuri had really gone up after helping everyone "get over her" in some sense or recuperate from the shock.
If Yuri stayed and really took back her "role", then I'd want to see the characteristic of the new wife that's with Yuri's husband... I think our decisions will change based on the upcoming details of the drama, so I'm totally here to stay.
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Random pop in question: I know that HJW sang in one of the songs (You and I) for the drama. Does anyone know if it's going to release at all? I heard the two leads sang it (I could totally be wrong)!
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6 minutes ago, Lawyerh said:
@RedpinkboxesThey're just sizzling on-off screen. Okay, sorry not sorry for my sudden shipper heart delusional
I know this ship not sailing irl, but its fine... I got a lot of ship that is like that. Back to the drama, if I must pick only 1 favourite moment of them. I will still pick the apron scene. There is not even a direct skinship, but it's fluttering my heart so much.
Left the tag up there because I wanted to thank you for the transcription. Haven't gotten to the interviews (sobbing still) yet but I will watch them tomorrow!
This ship isn't sailing in real life (I wish it would), but at least we can always watch this drama again? I really do hope they partner again in another drama or movie, hopefully more romantic and not melodramatic.
The apron scene is great too, but I really like the confession scene between the two, especially Chayoung's. Through her long story, she confesses her love. Another one would be the most recent, where Kang prepares his own birthday meal and she brings the cake. After making his wish, he kisses her. Those two scenes were great. Or the scene right after where Chayoung meets her mom and she finds Kang to hold her hands (this references back to where Chayoung held his hand when he was cooking and he asked, "Shouldn't I hold your hand?" where she answered, "This time I'll hold yours. Next time, you can hold mine."
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After that episode (even toward the end), I began to really cry. It wasn't because of the drama was nearing its end, but rather the touching moments that I got from the drama itself.
Little moments like Kang telling Jun's mother to not close the hospice and that he wasn't even interested to take over Geosung, that he didn't intent to return to "hell". The hospice, with the patients and their stories began to melt Kang and Jun; it began to make them realize that life isn't just all about the materialistic reality that comes with it. What's a life if you cannot live it, even if you have everything that you desire? Loved when Jun pulled out his earphones and said that the hospice had changed him too.
I thought everyone had a good wrap up: Jun is doing what he likes (his dad just as pestering as ever), Na-ra came back to the hospice, the nurse and DS is participating in a singing contest, Director Kwon and cooking ahjumma rekindled their relationship.
What I found the most fantastic was the fact that Kang did not push Chayoung to come back. Even the person who looks completely normal and hides it all sometimes need to break down and rest - and it is a real lesson. Chayoung has bottled all of her fears and thoughts into herself, that she used a "rest" to relieve some of it. Knowing that Kang is waiting for her (despite her telling him not to), she sends occasion messages to let him know she's fine. Although Kang doesn't know where she may be, he goes to the place where he believes she may be; and he was right. I loved where Kang says, "I know you wanted to rest some more but I missed you" where Chayoung responds, "I want to rest with you." This was heavy and definitely very symbolic. Chayoung knows that he's also been bottling up a lot and wants to understand him. Through rest, one relieves a lot of worries, fears, and is able to learn about oneself.
Even when Taehyun said his monologue, it was almost meant as a moral of the drama too, in my opinion and it made me cry a river there.
We should always do what we want to or can because we're living today when someone else lost their yesterday.
Overall, this is a drama where I will revisit very frequently - it taught many life lessons that I will cherish. Take breaks, take a long rest when you need it, and live everyday thinking that we have no tomorrow.
I know that they definitely cut out a lot of scenes and I was definitely unhappy about it- I thought that they could show more of Chayoung and Kang but... that's okay- no way to complain about it now! I sincerely hope that HJW and YKS will be reunited in another drama or movie; they had great chemistry on and off screen, it was an amazing journey that I went on without a compass (but many brakes) and I cannot wait to rewatch it again, again, and again.
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So........ Subs aren't out yet but I've been peeking around here ever since the broadcast.
I don't want to crush my thoughts yet but let me come back and revisit you all with all of my burning thinking in an hour.
But can I just say... I SAID IT. I knew the ending was going to be in Greece (but like many others, I really wanted a simple wedding or ending in the hospice or Wando).
Thank you to @Lawyerh for those amazing live updates along the way! And pictures too!
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1 hour ago, Dramafreak said:
CY feeling guilty I understand to the extent that she was a child and she didnt know the extent of the ajumma's injuries. But saying that she gave me chocolate which could have saved her life is a bit... too imaginative for me.
I agree. It was too imaginative for me as well; how could a simple chocolate save a life...? Plus, she had been impaled by a steel pipe already. I think that LK would know that his mom would not survive regardless if she had the chocolate or not...
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46 minutes ago, sadthe1st said:
the funny side.. she took out almost all her savings and still, went for a bbq clam feast
maybe calling LK to travel 2hours to meet her was (the cruel truth.. i’m joking here!) that she realised she doesn’t have money to pay for the food!! Bwhahahaha! I laughed so hard at this comment! She only had a couple of dollars left and probably couldn't pay for the food! We all thought she missed him but she needed someone to pay for the food she ordered! Pffft, look at all of those clams she ordered! She probably went, "Oh no! I forgot I only had less than 20 dollars!"
23 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:As I've said he owes her big time so he can pay for all the food from now on. And more...
For the rest of his life.
What's more... he got the answer he wanted and got to kiss the girl!!
I'd say that's more than ample compensation for a 2 hour drive.
Welcome to all the new people!
Hahahahahaha! More clams? Exactly! A few clams in exchange for all of those lovey-dovey/cooing that he did earlier in the day AND also a kiss? I think it's well worth it in LK's perspective (and CY too!) That proposal was so cute on both end- I'm not sure if I'd be able to marry without a proposal like that.
Also a warm welcome to all of the new folks on this thread! Virtual handshakes and hugs to all of you here! Let's brace for the last week!
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... I feel like I've been writing endlessly and blabbering so perhaps none of this makes sense but one thing makes sense which is this was one of the best dramas I've watched thus far and this was an amazing cast! I loved the chemistry between all of the cast, especially SHS and KJH! I hope that there will be another project for them both in the future! I would LOVE for them to be in a modern drama with a true happy ending. 
Jeez!
I know this ship not sailing irl, but its fine... I got a lot of ship that is like that. 
maybe calling LK to travel 2hours to meet her was (the cruel truth.. i’m joking here!) that she realised she doesn’t have money to pay for the food!! 
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Can they just drop episode 15 tomorrow? It looks like the scene is going to continue and did I see.... hands... on the bed in the preview?
I had always wondered what "POX" was when Hye-sun calls Woo-yeo... and I never thought to say "fox" either. BUT MAN THE WAY THAT HE SAID F.O.X - FOX. I can hear it straight out for hours... That sounded SO good.
I went back a couple of pages but like, can we just fangirl at the part where Woo-yeo lets his jacket roll off? That was so smooth... I guess that's what Dam meant when you gotta get em' hot and make them take off their jackets like a summer day, huh?
I still haven't figured out what exact human characteristics Woo-yeo is missing to become human. He's able to come to recognize his own feelings, emotions and is able to apologize and recognize other people's feelings too, which is a huge step forward from his episode 1 character. It looks like he's making so much progress and it's literally going to happen any day now too! One more note that many people have already mentioned but JKY and Hyeri have amazing chemistry and I would love to see them in another rom-com/com-rom in another project! I know this is a drama I'll rewatch when I finish.