Official Seohwa/용서/Yongseo Sweet Potato Couple Thread 1 ♥

January 3, 2011

_d3seohyun: I loved your screencaps ♥ Thanks soo much for sharing them...

I feel like the worst Goguma ever... I haven't watched the latest ep yet Today is my grandma's bday and I've been busy the whole day... but soon I will watch it

Thanks to everyone who has shared info, translations, screencaps and links about uri YongSeo

I just wanted to share this screencaps I found in dcmarried, they are from old eps but they are really really realy lovely:

~Yong's face changes when he looks at his Hyun~

~And the way she looks at him... ~

EDIT:

bee_ichigo: Good luck in your exam

January 3, 2011

well I just read in Cnblue's thread that on Jan 1st, Yonghwa and Jonghyun went to SHINee's 1st concert

And Seohyun went too, with Yoona and Yuri

Ok, dream on guys ~

January 3, 2011

hi all

i need help about the "kind-of-charm" that they wrote in japan.

can anyone translate it for me?

thanx btw

aliene · January 3, 2011

Hi All,

I've been reading but not commenting on the board for a while as I was on holiday much of December but am back and happy to share some pictures from Kawagoe .

It's really a pretty small place but really quaint. The only misleading thing I guess is, WGM played up the sweet potato-ness of the place probably because they kept emphasizing it (due to SeoHyun's love for gogumas). Most of the snacks there are traditional Japanese sweets . All in all it is a really cozy and laid back place worth the side trip from Tokyo!

Shiki station where Yong and Hyun met up is actually on the way to Kawagoe, and there is no real need to change trains there or anything so I think WGM PDs got them to meet there to avoid the crowd when filming. I would think both CNBlue and SNSD were in Tokyo so there would have been an easier route there.

I also found the little cutouts where they took pictures. The shop where they tested the goguma snacks is also easily found. It was a bit pricer than the snacks in the sweets street though (selling the same thing).

Here are some pics (i forgot how to embed pics...):

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lsEhLcXbEVC9HnQvZyzwTA?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6sEPpj4IrofVF_rU4nGQhg?feat=directlink

And I'm sure everyone recognises this one...

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/98HUW5afUvDZ8mjtTZ-_0g?feat=directlink

bee_ichigo · January 3, 2011

Drop by to thanks aliene for sharing her(?) experience in kawagoe. Thanks for the pics. Are you going to the shrine too?

So, the shiki station is actually in kawagoe? I think they are more popular in Tokyo so the PD didn't let them met in Tokyo station. Yong already well known in Kawagoe, i'm sure he really popular in Tokyo.

bee_ichigo

aliene · January 3, 2011

Drop by to thanks aliene for sharing her(?) experience in kawagoe. Thanks for the pics. Are you going to the shrine too?

So, the shiki station is actually in kawagoe? I think they are more popular in Tokyo so the PD didn't let them met in Tokyo station. Yong already well known in Kawagoe, i'm sure he really popular in Tokyo.

bee_ichigo*quoted image*

Shiki isn't in Kawagoe (Kawagoe is really quite small). Shiki is one of the stations you will pass if you're going to Kawagoe from Tokyo so Yong and Hyun probably headed there from somewhere in Tokyo separately instead of meeting and going together from Tokyo. It is a very short ride from Shiki to Kawagoe.

I didn't find the shrine though! You CAN however, find the ryokan they stayed at. It is one of the reccomended ryokan on the Kawagoe tourism site. If I recall correctly, the name is Sakuma...

See link below:

http://www.koedo.or.jp/foreign/english/restaurant.html

January 3, 2011

is it true that YongSeo Couple will divorced this year.??

oh no...they haven't been a year...

i hope its just a rumor..

January 3, 2011

is it true that YongSeo Couple will divorced this year.??

oh no...they haven't been a year...

i hope its just a rumor..

as far as i know, MBC debunked the rumors that replacements for 2011 by claiming they were false. as for YS' contract, though, it's supposedly ending midway through the year BUT that's not taking into account the possibility they could renew. yong has a new drama he'll star in that seems to be he only thing that could interfere, but that's something for him to decide. as i see it, they have no reason to quit but you know, who knows. let's just hope for the best and worry about it later.

hah, post seems quite bare without color, but i'm posting from my phone. D:

January 3, 2011

I started to write the following during the day while doing a lot of other stuff, so by the time I posted this is a little late in the thread, but here it goes. This is in response to the topic discussed by aurora82 and th.

I agree somewhat with both your opinion because I understand where each of you is coming from. But I was thinking that the problem here is that from what I see, the Korean music industry and the way it works, is the one who creates, encourage, this unhealthy obsessive relationships among the fans and do not take steps to minimize their impact. Its like they keep spoiling the fans and keep making them think that they have rights they do not have, and by continuing hiding celebrities relationships or prohibiting them it makes it worse. Its like those fans are manipulators and they are submitting to them, helping to continue their manipulation. Not to compare, but in the US for example, your music career, especially for Rock Bands, does not depend on your looks and single status. Obviously, looks are a huge benefit, but your career will mostly depend on the music and wether people like it, unless you are an artist mostly promoting for tween/teen girls (ex. Justin Bieber). Those are the artists with huge obsessive crazy fans. However, that does not impede them from dating because it is still their personal life. In fact, if the partner is another celebrity, the situation is somewhat treated as good because they are a celebrity couple, although some fans may still hate the partner. With Zac Efron, for example, thus dating his co-star impeded him continuing his acting career, or the huge young fanbase crushing on him? Because, believe me, it didn't.

So yes, the Korean industry is hard compare to others, but I think what Yongseo have in their favor is that in contrast to other Korean artist whose fans will be taken by complete surprise if they announced they are dating (ex. Jonghyun, Seven), in the case of Yongseo they have been 'together' for a year as a couple. Fans my not be supportive, but in a way they have been somewhat subconsciously educated that they are a couple for reel, and there is potential for them to be real.

In addition, since, artists and their companies are influence by business and profits, from my point of view I think that right now both their companies may have already compared the advantages and disadvantages of their relationship and in my opinion, the advantages have more than surpassed the disadvanteges. Why? For example: (I will put the rest in spoiler so it doesn't take a lot of space in the thread)

1) Banmal video: more than being a sweet video showing their talents, its a video that have served as some kind of proof to SM and FNC the positive side of them being together:

* Proof that there are thousands and thousands of fans around the world who may even surpass the haters.

* The video even got 57 HONORS, a lot more than even SNSD Oh (9), Gee (11), Hoot (9), Genie (TMYW) (8) official videos in the SMent channel, which is the 2nd most subscribed channel of S. Korea and #45 most subscribed musician channel in the world. You all know how popular is SNSD in Asia, yet Yongseo fans still had an enormous capacity to surpass unimaginable records (although I bet the majority were replaying the video hahaa). They have even surpassed record views and honors compared to other big SM artists videos, who as we pretty much know are extremely top artists not only in S. Korea but in Asia. So again, what Yongseo have accomplished is huge and today it is almost reaching the 2 million view in 1 week.

* In addition the Honors in the Banmal Song in contrast to the other videos, included honors from ALL around the World (different countries, continents), not just Asia. The honors even include Latin America, Europe, and even places you, even Yongseo and their companies at first will never think they were known. On the other hand, the other video honors are focused in Asia exclusively, mostly S. Korea.

2) Yong's side. From a business/artist standpoint, your ultimate goal is your music being known by a lot of people, especially worldwide. As much as I love CNBLUE before Yonghwa in WGM, it is obvious that Yongseo relationship is a huge factor in helping them be known in a lot of these countries. Not that I am saying that they are not capable alone, but you have to be aware that last year they were rookies and they have achieved the national and international love and respect in a short time what others struggle for a long while to accomplish, even SNSD. What they have already achieved is what a lot of musicians have dream and a lot even work for life without even seeing a glimpse of it, and Yongseo/WGM in a certain degree degree have been one of the factors, among a lot others, helping in pushing them towards their explosive success. Since SNSD and WGM have a huge fanbase, I am sure FNC is aware of the benefit of their increasing support, not only fans that were originally only Boice.

3)Hyun's side. From SM standpoint, again, I am sure they are aware of the rocket increase and the fact that they, with their simple song surpassed the 1 million view number in just 2 days is huge. I am sure someone in SM have and also FNC have started to think that if there is a possibility of making an agreement and time to record the song together, they will go for it, because they will see the profits.

* As much as I love SNSD, Seohyun is one of the top girls in the group with more potential of having a long career in the music industry in a diversity of fields since she has proven herself that she is not just a good singer/dancer but also musician, music arrangement, and with the help of Yonghwa now lyricist and she is just (19 years old/20 years old-Korea), so she is still maturing as an artist. Now seohyun can even add songwriter to her resume hahaha. SM must have clearly seen how she has developed with him professionally and personally, which is obvious to EVERYONE.

* In addition, as much as SNSD have a lot of fans, they are still growing, and SM is trying to promote them as much as they can internationally, and in a way WGM is helping with that goal.

I will stop because its already too long. The thing is that they may have fans who may get crazy against them, but I still think business wise, the fans in favor of them or who will be neutral will more than balance those kind of obsessive fans. Also, the same way there were Jonghyun (Shinee) fans who the first few days were acting as if it was the end of the world, later on those have dwindled down and the fans showed support to the group and Jonghyun. This include even some who at first were haters of his love relationship. I am sure that will also happen with Yongseo in the case it comes out they are together for real.

EDIT:

I wrote this because I know a LOT of people, as well as korean celebs, are scared of anti-fans or the potential of Idols losing fans. But I was trying to show that from an objective point of view, both CNBLUE and SNSD, have more benefits with Yongseo being together than disadvantages.

January 3, 2011

I agree somewhat with both your opinion because I understand where each of you is coming from. But I was thinking that the problem here is that from what I see, the Korean music industry and the way it works, is the one who creates, encourage, this unhealthy obsessive relationships among the fans and do not take steps to minimize their impact. Its like they keep spoiling the fans and keep making them think that they have rights they do not have, and by continuing hiding celebrities relationships or prohibiting them it makes it worse. Its like those fans are manipulators and they are submitting to them, helping to continue their manipulation. Not to compare, but in the US for example, your music career, especially for Rock Bands, does not depend on your looks and single status. Obviously, looks are a huge benefit, but your career will mostly depend on the music and wether people like it, unless you are an artist mostly promoting for tween/teen girls (ex. Justin Bieber). Those are the artists with huge obsessive crazy fans. However, that does not impede them from dating because it is still their personal life. In fact, if the partner is another celebrity, the situation is somewhat treated as good because they are a celebrity couple, although some fans may still hate the partner. With Zac Efron, for example, thus dating his co-star impeded him continuing his acting career, or the huge young fanbase crushing on him? Because, believe me, it didn't.

lunasol: sorry to cut your post short. yup, somehow asian fans have no limitation and to some extent, they can be quite scary. not all but just a general perception. i do feel for the celebs. it's their life and they should be able to do what they want to do. some join for fame while others do it for the love of music but then again when they sign up for fame, all these goes with it - fanatics, negative rumors, do's and don'ts, etc.

i used to work in the entertainment industry and for me, i always prefer for idols to remain idols cos even for people who work in the industry, if they are too attainable then they would be just like any other guy/girl walking on the street - perhaps a tad more good looking or talented than others. like what yong said, ideals would be just ideal. it won't be the same as the real deal. fans see what they want to see in reel world but are they really who they are in real world?

as far as i know, MBC debunked the rumors that replacements for 2011 by claiming they were false. as for YS' contract, though, it's supposedly ending midway through the year BUT that's not taking into account the possibility they could renew. yong has a new drama he'll star in that seems to be he only thing that could interfere, but that's something for him to decide. as i see it, they have no reason to quit but you know, who knows. let's just hope for the best and worry about it later.

well, it's tough but it kinda worked for the adam couple as both of them are shooting the sitcom - all about love (i think that's the title). hopefully it will work for YongSeo as well.

January 3, 2011

There's no point in this post. No new pictures or information from DC married.

I was in my creative mood last night while I was browsing icon in Soshified. Then I saw this Yongseo icon and words kept flowing my mind. It is your choice to read the spoiler, it's just a random essay about how I feel about everything regarding this couple. I swear it is your choice. I thought I had to share this somewhere.

Sorry for the randomness. -__-

credits: peachgirlxo@soshified

I was originally a Khuntoria fan, blinded by the sweetness of numerous holding hands and unconscious caring gestures. I felt more than contented seeing them casually doing these things immediately on their first day of being ‘together’. Something I rarely see from the other couple, was it Yongseo or Seohwa? I never knew. I never cared. I was aware of them, I diligently download their subbed episodes from Soshified then, anyways. I thoughtlessly watched these couple, waiting for it to end just so I could say I watched their part. It was nothing. They were nothing compared to the new sweet couple that surely made my weekend bright.

One Sunday morning while I was busy squealing as Khuntoria sincerely feed each other the sweet food they cooked, my sister got curious about the show, the couple. She knew nothing of the two so I casually told her the other couple was made up of ‘Shinwoo’ and coincidentally her favorite member from Girls’ Generation. Weirdly, she wanted to watch. Since I had a complete set of Soshified-subbed videos, we watched all the episodes of the couple.

She was hooked. She thought the two looked good together despite the terrible awkwardness they had from the second Seohyun stepped inside MBC lobby. Even if she was obviously trying her best to pretend she wanted to be with the newbie idol that she only see on TV.

I unconsciously thought of everything I watched and shoot, yes, they definitely look good together. This is not because they both look good physically but because they complement each other. Complement in such a way a couple should be.

Days, weeks and months passed with both of them unconsciously investing in the relationship they’re stuck at. Doing things they were not required to do. Most of us have been praising Yonghwa for stepping up to lead Seohyun to this confusing game the show has, for the patience. Always the patience he had for her.

But we are not going to take for granted what Seohyun had done, right? Even during their first day she had already persevered for him. It isn’t everyday that she would take time to write something on her precious journal regarding guys. How should she act after she introduced herself, should she act as Seohyun the idol or should she act as Seo Joohyun the innocent and learning girl that she is? I see her worked very hard for Yonghwa to feel that she can be approachable for him. These may have been unseen due to the unfathomable awkwardness she always had with her.

I waited, we waited and importantly, Yonghwa waited. We waited for the moment when Seohyun would completely let Yonghwa step into her uptight world. The moment when Seohyun isn’t just exchanging text messages with Yonghwa because she’s her oppa, someone she works with regularly but because she sincerely cares for him. The time when Seohyun’s eyes isn’t just simply sparkling but because she let it shine for him to know she likes the time she spends with him. The moment when Seohyun would just simple step out of her strong walls to let her instinct controls her. It was definitely a long path, a rocky path that Yonghwa chose to do. However, a path always has its end. He reached it and he was gifted with a valuable light.

I closed my eyes and tried to fly back to their first day until now and slowly, I find myself smiling. It is a continuous journey for them. They have been growing more beautiful each day. They can already flash a loving and happy smile for everyone. Their eyes sparkle with happiness of knowing each other. It’s magical how they grow into individuals that perfected each other.

But as days goes by for us, fans, we unconsciously become these scary people that keep on dissecting every single look, touch and gestures done by them. Was his touch came from his heart? Was her look truly displayed happiness? Why weren’t they acting the same like they were from the previous episode? Isn’t it unfair for us to judge this wonderful and striving couple just because we thought what they did wasn’t couple-like to do? They now look at each other tenderly and equally. Do we want to see Seohyun carefully look at Yonghwa with eyes expressing her walls again? How about the fanboy-like Yonghwa had then? No, right? They both now can touch each other just to convey the inexpressible feeling their heart burst out. They’re already in the same page as any normal couple out there.

Let’s remember that they are still human despite their growing popularity each day. I’m saying this because I strongly believe that there is something going on between them, officially or not, there is. Them randomly decide not to wear the ring? That’s definitely questionable. They ‘conquered’ all the five months of having that meaningful ring on their left hand while going around Asia. They already gave double meaning answers regarding it then. Them purposely avoiding any interactions whenever they’re on stage together. Adam couple would always act themselves on music shows so why can’t they? Is it because it would give away something they have? With everything that they tried to hide goes to show that there is something.

I hope we would refrain from scrutinizing their every move. We loved them because of how they entertainingly carry out their awkwardness with each other. We loved them because no matter how young they are, they know how to take care of each other responsibly. We loved them despite their lack of physical contact then. Everything that had happened and will happen in terms of skinship is just an extra gift for us. We already are far on our journey with them, let’s not doubt their relationship with just small holes we see on each episodes.

Point of this scribble? When I first saw the icon, the picture from their first date, I see the innocent smiles they once had to satisfy not themselves but the viewers, the painful awkwardness of not knowing what to say or do to satisfy one another, then I thought of the detailed thoughts we all had from the new episodes. I wanted to ask myself, ‘should they just go back to once they were? The awkward couple?’ so that we wouldn’t look beyond everything they’re doing to each other.

It just feels so good to know these two evolve maturely with each other. That both of their hard work to walk in the same pace finally paid off, hands clasped into the unknown future with only thoughts of positivity in mind.

January 3, 2011

@aneng Very well said, i've enjoyed reading every single word of your post. It really spoke my mind. That's the exact same way i felt about yongseo, everything you've mention is totally amazing. So to aneng and all the gogumas out there, lets just support YongSeo and walk down the road of future together with them no matter where it takes us.

January 3, 2011

Hello goguma fellows!

well, i dont know if its has shared or not, but this is FULL video of CNBLUE concert in Japan, the video is really clear and you can see cleary that the boys were really sweaty haha, and by the way (I dont know if its right to mention it) Yong wore the ring

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/FgFsqYTryoI/

I dont understand what they are talking about, but here Yong were teasing his dongsaeng, and the crowd, its proved that Yong choding is Yong character and hope for ppl who really love cnblue and yonghwa specially finally accept that its his character, being choding is not that bad for rockers, isnt it?

January 3, 2011

First off, I would like to thank everyone for the subbed videos and the translations... You guys are the best...

I have been hesitating to write this but after reading aisuo415's translation, well, I just feel the need to let it out or else I may burst.. LOL... just joking...

I know that the "choding" quality of yong is what really endears us to him and I know that Seohyun likes that character of him... I really feel that it plays a significant role in their relationship as it loosened Hyun and made her more comfortable with Yong... Even Hyun and her manager acknowledged it... But what irritates me is the MCs reaction to it... Granted most of the time they enjoy Yong's "choding"-ness but sometimes they have a look of derision (alright, maybe it is too strong a word, but I can't think of any other word right now,,, haha) in their faces when Yong shows it... I especially remember the Japan episode when Seohyun aimed her can at Yong at the convenience store after Yong aimed his at her and then Nayoung said that Hyun should have not responded to it as it will make Yong do it more, I was like, "WTH, there's nothing wrong with what they are doing"... After reading what MC Park said about Yong being a "choding", that when he does not get the things he wants right, he cries, well, to put it mildly, I was irritated as hell... Why attribute it to his "choding"-ness? The guy had been working the whole day, for sure is very tired, then made so many mistakes, thereby making their work longer which affects Hyun as well, who is for sure also tired, can't they give Yong a break if he is mad? Who would not be in that kind of situation? And from what I heard, he is a perfectionist and for him to create many mistakes, for sure he'll get seriously mad... Now, don't get angry at me guys, but in a way I do understand (though in no way can I support it) some of the BOICE's sentiment on why they want Yong out of WGM... I have been a fan of CNBlue even before WGM, that is the reason I started watching WGM in the first place... Since ep1, I do sometimes feel that they look down at Yong and I do feel that sometimes this gives a negative effect on Yong especially on those who does not know him and the band (from what I know, idols go on shows to be able to reach a much broader audience, thereby letting this people know about them, right?) Now, this is just me letting out my irritation and I will be more than happy if you will just ignore my outburst... haha...

Now that is over and done with, I just want to share some good things with this episode... Except for that one comment stated above, I can see that the MCs were all having a great time while watching our couple create the video and make so many mistakes in the process... especially Nayoung who was all smiling and giggly the whole time (could it be that they know something more, hence the reaction? *sorry, my imagination running wild again,,, haha) and Seohyun, oh our Hyun is so dear and precious... She would make the perfect girlfriend/wife/lifetime companion... She is so supportive of Yong, getting all touchy to ease some of Yong's irritation... She is just amazing... She is indeed his calm in the storm... Honestly, they complement each other so well... With regards to Yong's NG, we have to remember that Yong originally made this as some sort of message to Hyun... That is why he can barely look at Hyun in the eye and gets flustered so easily because he is practically baring out all his feelings to her in the song... And with Hyun so close by his side.... This couple made me root for them in such a way that no other couple ever did... Yongseo fighting!

January 3, 2011

@yasmin, I agree 100 percent, I do feel sometimes their comments are taken too far with regards to yong. The recent episode there was no reason to call him childish just because he got mad that he was doing it incorrectly. As you said, he is a perfectionist and he was tired from working all day plus he was doing it right next to hyun which he always said that he never wanted to perform badly infront of her. Who wouldn't get mad and frustrated? I think fnc should contact mbc wgm and seriously tell the mc to stop calling him childish its getting ridiculous.

January 3, 2011

Hi all! '

I just came back from a 16-day trip, and have spent the past couple of days back-reading nearly 90 pages!!

Can I just say how much I’ve missed you guys and how great it is to be back?, and that I can’t believe us gogumas manage to find so much to talk about TWO people/1 couple (whom we see a meagre 20 minutes of per week). I notice the topic turnover tends to be 1-2 days on average, hence, I was busily and pleasantly entertained while reading, thank you very much ^^. My initial plan was to list out all the topics you guys have discussed to illustrate the depth of what I’m trying to convey here, but I’ve stuffed that because it’s way too many ;P.

Also, Merry Christmas for 2010, and Happy New Year '' (sorry if it’s late).

aneng, your post is awesome and so is your sister. I loved reading your journey from being yongseo-apathetic to yongseo-shipper. It made me sit back and think about how I got into Yongseo as well. For me, I didn’t even give Kang Shinwoo a second glance (I’m so sorry to the numerous Shinwoo fans here!) as I was Jang Geun Suk/Hwang Tae Kyung-obsessed all the way. Of SNSD, I liked Tiffany and Hyoyeon – Seohyun to me was the girl who was the same age, and had similar interests (reading and classical music), but was too quiet (and hence seemed to have not much personality), and had a puffy chubby face that slightly put me off (you can be assured my views have changed 180 degrees).

However, I’ve never once regretted on clicking on Yongseo couple’s ep 1 on Youtube one very dull and unproductive day sometime in June. IDKW, but regarding love stories, I tend to go for plots that involve awkwardness/disagreement between the protagonists at the start. To me, that heightens the chemistry so much more when they do finally lie on the same page. I think that’s why I naturally got hooked onto Yongseo’s interactions from the start. It was inevitable they’d eventually come to this stage – basically, amidst a busy idol life, you’d think they’d find solace in each other, right? It was just a matter of time.

Anyway, I’ve been reading Jane Austen’s Emma, because I needed to distract myself from the fact that I had no access to Yongseo for 2 weeks + ( !) and the irony is that I came across this bit of dialogue that reminded me of Yongseo.

One-sentenced context in the spoiler for what I’m about to quote, lol:

Emma and Frank are talking about another woman whom they find is hard to connect with because she is so “reserved”.

E: And then, her reserve; I never could attach myself to any one so completely reserved.

F: It is a most repulsive quality, indeed. Oftentimes very convenient, no doubt, but never pleasing. There is safety in reserve, but no attraction. One cannot love a reserved person.

E: Not till the reserve ceases towards one’s self; and then the attraction may be the greater. But I must be more in want of a friend, or an agreeable companion, than I have yet been, to take the trouble of conquering any body’s reserve to procure one.

I had to ‘awwwwww’ at this! This screams Yongseo, does it not? I’ve underlined what Yong has done, and italicised what is relevant to Hyun. The beauty of Hyun’s nature is that she can indeed be attractive once her layers of reserve are gradually stripped away by that one person who bothers to do so (Yong).

Also, lunasol, thanks for highlighting the Banmal vid’s honours. I had not looked at it that way, and it goes to speak volumes about how internationally popular they are. You are right – I would never have guessed some of the countries on that list. (I was so happy and shocked to see Australia on the list – I have only come across 2 other Aussie gogumas and was under the perception that we were rare, haha. :X). What a coincidence the international WGM couple is famous in S.Korea while the Korean couple is famous internationally.

Banmal song made me cry and sing it all day. (My singing consists of “na na na na na na na saranghae” due to my lack of Korean speaking skills...). Then my parents asked me why I looked teary at dinner, and I was like, “I just bit my tongue really hard” XD.

I like touchy Seohyun and shy Yong – it’s the total reverse of Yongseo back in the day. And I can’t remember who (sorry!), but I agree that even if the ep was Yongseo staring at each other the whole time, I still would watch it over and over again! There is no 'bad' preview that can keep me from tuning in! ''. I look forward to future episodes =).

---edit---

Crystalblue, it's amazing that you brought up what happened in ep 27, because I had gone to sleep last night while replaying it a few times (and tearing in the process). I also feel guilty they have to be on WGM at this point of their relationship, but I guess this couple needs WGM to give them that 'push' to go further, you know? Without WGM, they have limited chances to do so, so it's a bit like a Catch 22 situation ~ I love what you said at the end though, because I hope so too!

Yasmin, I TOTALLY AGREE. It's ridiculous when they attribute everything that is not "manly" to his chodingness. There is absolutely nothing wrong with acting that way, and there are lots of guys out there who are choding but does not maintain that balance of choding and seriousness as well as Yong anyway...

January 3, 2011

Dear aneng,

I just got done reading your post and apparently, we have been on the same journey watching Yonghwa and Seohyun's relationship's growth. I couldn't disagree with any of your POV. Recently, I've been getting a little erkee feeling wanting Yonghwa to respond to Seohyun's physical affections a little more .... how do I say... Anticipated and Happier to be touched and loved back by her??

But then like you, I do believe there IS something there and they are now much more famous than they were a year ago- atleast much more so for YH. In the Japanese trip episode, when Seohyun's ice cream was dripping and there were photographers snapping pics, YH traded seats with her to protect her and said to her that she has to project the right image. In ways, even tho SH has been an idol longer than YH, I think being a girl maeknae, she has also been very protected and guided. YH is a leader and he wanted to become successful after he reached adulthood so he perhaps understand the "game" of being an idol more so than SH. You can certainly tell thru this song writing and video project, he's lead the way even tho he certainly also listened to SH's inputs. She has now accepted him as her guide even tho her stubborness also comes thru here and there as she is an strong person. I can't help it but feel like in a way, they've switched roles. She's now in awe of his capabilities and is now having the crush on him and chasing him a bit while he's taking a step back in to having more control of how their image is being projected. It must be so hard on them. Too mature and responsible for their age. They make me happy watching every episode. I think it's a very unique and perhaps once in a lifetime love for them. At times, I feel guilty that they have to be on WGM at this point of their relationship and they have lost their privacy to entertain so many. Since they are so young, it troubles me to think they won't be able to sustain and overcome what they must in order to be together long term in real life. That makes me super sad to think about... Otekke???

When YH commented on her top looking like something his oma would wear and she said "kamsamnida". I smiled. That is a real life reply if there ever was one! I would have replied in the same way. When Nick Khun recently serenaded Victoria as a Christmas gift and he really was hoping she would cry, I thought about the fact that YH quietly (well, publicly but quietly) wrote Love Light and recorded and performed it so many times publicly knowing who he had in his thoughts when he wrote it and yet he didn't tell her. Then when so many rumors indicated that he wrote it for SH and even though some of the lyrics are certainly proof that it was for her, she still shyly asked him who he wrote it for? Her reaction after he told her at the fishing pond, raising up her hand to look at her ring against the starry sky and saying out loud that it was so nice, basically expressing that she was really happy at that moment- that was magical for me. I tear up thinking about it again as I am writing this. Even when she was really mad at him for not wearing his ring during the meldang period, I knew how she felt because I have had those very same feelings in my relationships. Looking back, this couple has been up and down and all around in their relationship but with the same constant intentions which is falling in love with each other. I've even fantasized that in a year from now, he would ask her to marry him for real and even though they'r young, they don't care because they want to be together that badly. You know the saying " I love you so much, nothing else matters."? I hope one day, they will feel it and say it to each other.

January 3, 2011

Going to play devil's advocate for a moment here because I feel like I might be one of the few people who doesn't mind the MC comments about Yonghwa. I don't think they've ever called him "choding" in a derogatory manner, and I'm pretty sure that they've actually grown to love that side of him. Yong wouldn't be Yong without that side of him. During his interview in Ep. 33, he says he's not a "choding" anymore, and then they all chime in that he still is with smiles on their faces and laughing. It's what makes him unique.

That being said, Nayoung has expressed distaste about his perceived childishness (when he acts like he's raiding the 7-11), but it doesn't seem to affect their perception of him as a whole. They recognize his professionalism (composing) when it calls for it. Their comments in the latest episode about how his irritation is a result of his childishness didn't come across as offensive at all either - not in my opinion, anyway. Do they sometimes exaggerate things? Sure, but who doesn't? One should realize that they're just as much as spectators as we are and know just as much as we do. If fans are smart, then they should know better not to place emphasis on the commentary.

And I also feel like if people are going to be targeting the MCs, then we're just as guilty for perpetuating his Yong Choding persona, even if it's just reminding everyone that this quality of his is to be embraced and is exactly what's been helping Seo out of her shell. Regardless of what is exactly being said, we've all encouraged everyone to support that side of him. I think people are forgetting that the MCs are just as supportive of the couple as we are. Also, I feel like BOICEs should be confident about his portrayal; when they're not (especially when all they focus on is how the show makes him appear that way, as if it's the only side we see and it's clearly not) it only draws attention to this one aspect of him when we all know that there are multiple facets to a person.

I don't know. I feel pretty protective of the MCs because of everything they do for the couple. They talk positively about them, they cheer on for them, so I don't really like this sudden collective sentiment that they're unfairly attacking Yong.

(I'm obviously not referring to all BOICEs, just those who are expressing unfavorable opinions of WGM, simply because it's "ruining" his image.)

winnieho · January 3, 2011

@ Aneng and Crystalblue

I just want to say that both your posts made me nostalgic in reminiscing over how I began my journey as a YongSeo lover, especially your post Aneng. As for Crystalblue, well thank you for putting tears in my eyes after reading your post. (Just kidding!) It was a lovely post and pushed my emo-button. (Or maybe I was already feeling a bit teary since today is the 1st day of my eldest son entering Secondary School. My baby has entered secondary school! Bawl! How time flies!)

To all fellow Gogumas who posted once or many times here in Soompi, thank you so so much for your insights, analyses, praises, summaries, translations, English subs, advices, articles, and above all... LOVE for uri couple YongSeo.

I am so proud to be a Goguma!

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소녀시대의 막내 서현이 스무살이 되기 전 하고 싶은 일을 밝혔다.

서현이 MBC 예능 ‘유재석 김원희의 놀러와’(3일 방송)에 출연해 밝힌 소원은 “친구들과 스무살이 되기 전에 한복 입고 경복궁에 꼭 놀러가고 싶다”는 것. 함께 출연한 수영은이“서현이 데뷔 후 처음으로 매니저에게 개별적으로 요구를 하는 모습을 봤다”며 공개한 내용이다.

서현은 “결국 못 갔지만 언젠가는 꼭 할거다”고 밝혀 웃음을 자아냈다.

서현은 현재 MBC 가상결혼 버라이어티 ‘우리 결혼했어요2’에서 정용화(씨앤블루)와 ‘용서 부부’로 호흡을 맞추고 있다. 일각에서는 서현이 밝힌 소원이 어쩌면 자상한 남편 덕에 ‘우결’에서 이뤄지지 않을까라는 기대감이 커지고 있다.

한편 대표 바른생활 소녀인 서현은 최근 진행된 녹화에서 마치 학창시절 반장과 같은 모습으로 시종일관 스튜디오를 웃음바다로 만들었다.

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