[variety] Miraculous Victory And Defeat 기승史

[Guest silverwingz]

PIC UPDATE:

SS501 Special ^^ airing this Sunday.

http://nbbs3.sbs.co.kr/index.jsp?cmd=read&...0&page_no=1

Credits: sbs.co.kr

The official guest list hasn't come out yet... a few (?) hours to go before it does... but you can make out the SS501 guys from the pictures.

Hyun Joong & Young Saeng will be on Shin Jung Hwan's team, and the other 3 on Yoon Jong Shin's team.

There are two other female guests as well... i'm not sure, but i think one is Jang Yoon Jung again and the other i have no clue of.

Jeanjoo, you're right... it's still the word game, but with the wheel to determine the punishment.

I'll post up the official guest list when it comes out later.

[hyperanime]

^Oh ok. That's kinda disappointing... but the punishments should be fun to watch ^^;;

How long do you think it'll be before this show is either canceled or reformatted?

I mean everyone loved dangyunhaji but they didn't make X-man into ONLY that game :X

[Guest silverwingz]

^ i dunno... but i can tell that the show is undertaking some changes... kinda in a slow transition... like with the punishments...

it did take X-Man a while to find a good format in the beginning too... but the thing with X-Man was, the same guests would appear

over two episodes, so there was more time to have other games and activities.

i think they WILL eventually move away from the Word Game... well, at least have LESS of it and have more variety later on...

the PDs should know that basing a variety show on ONE game isn't gonna make the show last... i mean, seriously... LOL...

right now, i'm practically watching the word game for the punishments... unless there's subs of course...

gosh, there was a time where i thought SBS had the best variety shows... but now... not so much...

don't get me wrong, i still like them, but they're kinda losing their touch.

let's hope for the best tho~! PDs: please dig deep into your creative minds! lol...

[xman150]

^thats cause nothing they have been producing lately has kept up with the history x-man left. the closest thing was jihwaza, and it only lasted 20+ eps. but anyways, yeah they need to bring back more variety in to the show with the physicality and less with the verbal games.

[Guest silverwingz]

MVAD Episode 21 Guest List

Shin Jung Hwan Team: Kim Hyun Joong and Heo Young Saeng (SS501), Han Young (LPG), Park Hyun Bin, Choi Jung Won (UN) & Jung Mi Sun

Yoon Jong Shin Team: Park Jung Min, Kim Hyung Joon and Kim Kyu Jong (SS501), Jung Joo Ri, Kim Joo Hee & Kim Il Joong

ROFL~ I got confused between Jang Yoon Jung and Han Young of LPG (Long Pretty Girls).

It's not Jang Yoon Jung who's in the episode, but Han Young! All I know is... she's super tall!

Well anyway... it's the SS501 Special... what more can I say?

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More pics ^^

Shin Jung Hwan vs. Yoon Jong Shin: http://nbbs3.sbs.co.kr/index.jsp?cmd=read&...1&page_no=1

Shin Jung Hwan gets punished: http://nbbs3.sbs.co.kr/index.jsp?cmd=read&...2&page_no=1

Jung Joo Ri tortures Shin Jung Hwan: http://nbbs3.sbs.co.kr/index.jsp?cmd=read&...3&page_no=1

Kim Hyung Joon's suffering: http://nbbs3.sbs.co.kr/index.jsp?cmd=read&...4&page_no=1

Park Hyun Bin vs. Kim Il Joong: http://nbbs3.sbs.co.kr/index.jsp?cmd=read&...5&page_no=1

Kim Joo Hee removing her make-up: http://nbbs3.sbs.co.kr/index.jsp?cmd=read&...6&page_no=1

SS501 <3: http://nbbs3.sbs.co.kr/index.jsp?cmd=read&...7&page_no=1

Credits: sbs.co.kr

[Guest cpopbaby19]

anyway, i just watched the last episode... the painting on their faces was hilarious. especially Yoon Jong Shin's one!

"mong mong!" hehe...

OMG! I laughed so hard on Yoon Jongshim's face!!! XD AHHAHA

It was so funny when Daesung beat him. 8D <33

And zommgg, "mong mong"!! XDDD I went crazy laughing everytime Shin Junghwan says that! hahahaha!!!

I love this episode but I hope they'd bring back physical games like the last time GD and Daesung guested in this show. It's becoming boring if you can't understand Korean much..

^Funny thing is that I am trying to learn korean for 4 years now(I even won a FTTS 4th Jib CD from Pops in Seoul @ Arirang TV because of that reason[VJ Soy(From T.T. Ma) is still the host that that time XD].). But I still only know on how to read and speak korean words, but not translating them as of now. If only I have enough time for the past 4 years lol.

Gawd, me too! ;_; Four years of learning korean but I can't even translate Variety shows (but I can understand them. like 75% of the show.)

[hyperanime]

^ i dunno... but i can tell that the show is undertaking some changes... kinda in a slow transition... like with the punishments...

it did take X-Man a while to find a good format in the beginning too... but the thing with X-Man was, the same guests would appear

over two episodes, so there was more time to have other games and activities.

gosh, there was a time where i thought SBS had the best variety shows... but now... not so much...

don't get me wrong, i still like them, but they're kinda losing their touch.

let's hope for the best tho~! PDs: please dig deep into your creative minds! lol...

Yeah for the past couple weeks I've noticed the changes as well.

If they don't change it up soon, I can feel that it's going to be canceled.

They forgot the meaning of "variety shows" o_O

And I also thought once upon a time that SBS had the better variety shows...

^thats cause nothing they have been producing lately has kept up with the history x-man left. the closest thing was jihwaza, and it only lasted 20+ eps. but anyways, yeah they need to bring back more variety in to the show with the physicality and less with the verbal games.

Agreed. And I have to say, I enjoyed Jihwaza... I was sad when it was canceled >_<

[Guest silverwingz]

SS501 will be on soon! around 3 hrs time i think? (a bit confused coz we just had daylight savings! LOL)

OMG! I laughed so hard on Yoon Jongshim's face!!! XD AHHAHA

Gawd, me too! ;_; Four years of learning korean but I can't even translate Variety shows (but I can understand them. like 75% of the show.)

i know! he seriously looked like Captain Jack Sparrow! it was the first thing that came to my mind before they even PSed his face on Johnny Depp's body!

at least you can understand 75%! i can only understand 5%!! (or maybe not even that!)

Yeah for the past couple weeks I've noticed the changes as well.

If they don't change it up soon, I can feel that it's going to be canceled.

They forgot the meaning of "variety shows" o_O

And I also thought once upon a time that SBS had the better variety shows...

Agreed. And I have to say, I enjoyed Jihwaza... I was sad when it was canceled >_<

i agree. Jihwaza was so good. i don't understand why the ratings were so bad...

oh wait... it's because of Infinity Challenge. i think anything in the same timeslot as that show is doomed.

Look at Line Up! I think that's getting cancelled soon. I've heard rumours of that happening in mid April or something.

hope they bring in better changes soon. i don't even think the name of the show has any meaning anymore...

[xman150]

its on now. no new games just the wheel of punishment. this show better step it up cause WJM on MBC is gaining popularity and i think hi-5 is the opening show in KBS so ratings must be down for this segment.

[Guest silverwingz]

^ so the episode bombed? =_=;;

yeah, We Got Married is getting really popular... and Happy Sunday's 1N2D is the show which got the record highest ratings (not Hi Five)...

so SBS really needs to step it up...

[xman150]

not bombed, its just not many funny moments. the high parts so far was PHB piggybacking KJH announcer to like a flag and bring it back to the main filming area, there was also this one part where PHB ate a candy that han young had spit out and fell on the floor, and seeing KJH announcers raw face. there isnt much of a change she looks the same. but yeah i was talking about the shows in the same time frame so it would be WJM vs. Hi-5 vs. MAVD and yeah this show has been lacking since the format change.

[Guest silverwingz]

^ oh i see! yeah, Park Hyun Bin always seems to bring some life into every episode with his antics. why the hell did he eat spat out lolly?! ew...

anyway... yeah, in terms of all the shows in the same time slot, MVAD is really behind compared to all the other shows.

[iRad]

I dunno, but SBS is always like this. it started way back during the final days of the old Xman and LL Season 3.

And on the case of Jiwhaza, I will say that I liked the show, but they lost track on the wall game halfway(Its more of a guessing game and alot of recycled patterns). this is also the case of X-man(The of course game).

[Guest silverwingz]

^ yeah.. that's somewhat true.

i also didn't like how Jihwaza's wall game became a thing of luck...

but with X-Man, the Of Course game was alright.. I just didn't like those 'romantic' ones.

the ones in the beginning with Kim Jong Gook and the odd couples were cute. but then they began to overuse it.

i loved the ones when Of Course just started where they'd just insult each other and tell lies, etc.. (e.g. Shin Jung Hwan's porn incident)

then it became way to scripted with the romance ones... and then it started losing its touch... *sigh*

[iRad]

^After KJK left, They really dragged the romantic elements to the next level. The game is supposed to be a one-liner game giving questions to force your opponent to say "Of course", but as time goes by each attack is like a paragraph of words and its eating alot of air time. one example is the Changmin/Jaejoong Of course game on which it lasted for about 10 minutes, there is no romance involving their game, but its still long.

[Guest silverwingz]

^ yeah!! those long-winded ones... omg... there were some i could live with, but some that just made me wanna pull my hair out of frustration! lol...

those one-liner ones were the best. quick and deadly. BAM and you're out. i loved those ones.

haha, we should stop bagging these other shows and stick on topic. haha... tho it is slightly related...

[iRad]

^I forgot to mentioned this, but because of this "romance" elements on X-Man, it is making it obvious that the show is scripted. compared on those short, one-liner attacks, those long episodic contents of the of course game(even on the warm-up game) is making the show faker.

Back to the thread: Yeah, SBS really need to think some fresh segments for the show. To be honest, I don't want to see another Monkey Bar bar or another Water Game.

[Guest BeatLennon]

Miraculous Victory and Defeat is very similar to X-Man. Ex. 풍류대담 to 당연하지.

[Guest kimbles]

Hello ^^ I was watching the 9th episode and when I looked at the song list, I realized there was a song that wasn't included. It's when Kim Ii Joong grabs the bar but then falls backwards, haha. And I'm pretty sure the song is DBSK's version of "옹달샘 (Mountain Spring)" ^^

Here you go: dong bang shin ki - 옹달샘 (Mountain Spring)

[Guest silverwingz]

^ thanks for that! i'll add it to the song list =)