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4 hours ago, Chickpea said:
Greetings, Friend,
Thank you for this brilliant post. I can see you are doing your homework with regard to the historical WS. Brava.
The point I was trying to make in my post was that, so far, the only "creative license to history" that I see is HS traveling back 1,000 years and becoming the reason for WS killing his brothers. And what's the point of that...
People don't commit murder, regicide or fratricide for love; they commit it for power. If the writer was going to make WS the killer of his brothers to acquire the throne, why try to justify his actions with the noble intent of protecting the woman he loves. Realistically, no HS traveled back to Goryeo from the 21st Century and yet the historical WS actually did kill his brothers to ascend to the throne, and then he took out their families, is this not correct.
My point was, if the author was going to deviate from history anyway, he or she should have turned the historical WS into a mythological character and given the story a different ending, like the King Arthur stories, or if the author was going to try to stick to the history, then he or she should not have tried to turn this into a love story with a woman who traveled back from the future and who then becomes the reason for WS's actions.
If the historic WS was a blood-thirsty, power-mad maniac (a "monster" in HS's words), then write the story that way and make the woman from the future fall in love with a brother destined for death, like Wook, for instance, and then after WS kills off her lover, have her fall back down the rabbit-hole to the 21st Century to meet and fall in love with his modern-day reincarnation.
Beyond the history, however, there are other parts of a drama--the audience, the characters and the story itself. For any story, movie or drama to work, it has to first make sense. The actions have to follow logically and make sense in contet and the characters must be believable. Like I said, the actions of WS at the end of Ep. 15 don't make sense when taken together with everything else we've seen about him through the previous 14 episodes. The WS of 14 episodes refused to be controlled by anyone. He was a survivor. He would rather die than submit. This character, when confronted with the scene of Yoo alive and well and standing over the dead body of the CP would have cut him down and the very idea that a counselor could stop the carnage and give the advantage to the obvious-murderer of the CP is, on its face, unrealistic. If the WS of this drama is the WS of history, he would have let Weasel Brother kill HS. Even the WS of this drama was, at one point, willing to kill HS himself, to find the plotters against the CP. We're being asked to see HS as the "kryptonite" to the WS "superman" as if love has somehow weakened and emasculated our Hero. Perhaps we're supposed to see WS's actions as noble but, sorry, it doesn't work in contet, at least it didn't work at the end of Ep. 15 and I don't see how it will work going forward.
If we're to accept the premise of this story, a 21st century woman is the catalyst for one of Korea's greatest mass murderers. Not his lust for power, not his desire for revenge, not his attempt to follow the wishes of his father and obtain justice for the murder of the CP. I would have more respect for the WS who carries out these murders to end the machinations of the families and the manipulations of the princes than I presently do for the WS who abandons all of this to protect a woman he could have easily protected by just pushing that sword through Yoo's body.
Great discussing this with you, tho... CP
I agree with you 100% except on the part that he could have killed Yo and everything would have been fixed, there were three people who would have used what he did to capture him and kill him and her and they would've taken the throne anyway, Wook, his sister and the Queen, he was playing chess and he realized he was alone in this quest to me he is 5 moves ahead of them we just haven't seen them, Ok that is my wishful thinking, I want to add that it has been my experience with Korean dramas that the writers shift their vision all of the time, I guess most directors and writers don't see eye to eye in what works and what doesn't and they change everything all the time, they must think that a story worth told is that which makes people overthink and come up with different scenarios and to play with the audience's emotions, plus there are hardly any bad or evil people in any dramas, both directors and writers tend to justify the actions of the most vile person with a forgiveness is everything as long as they have a justification. There was no justification for the WS in history who killed his brothers out of thirst of power as we might imagine, but here he is the hero or the antihero of the story, so justifications for his actions is all we will watch even if it is not possible, (I still believe history must have some cases where the bad guy wasn't really the bad one, who knows). I don't want to abandon all hope and think this is just another one of those stories I want to think that for a couple of episodes Wang So forgot who he was and turn into this love struck person that we watch in those two episodes, (14 and 15) and why no, he had the worst childhood and life ever, my thought is that he is going to have a change of tune in the next episodes, his thirst for power and vengeance will grow and he will have the justification for killing the rest of his family, does that makes it OK? no, killing your family is never justified, but it makes our hero less despicable. I thought about the possibility of her falling for another one of the princes and I don't think it will work the same way, it will turn into just a regular love story so there will be no why did she go back to that era, why is the reason for her to remember everything, is it really a dream or is it real? I think the answers depend on the director and the writer and how they are going to stir the story, I still hold on to the idea that there was one, we have to see it when she goes back to her original body. I know it might not happen as I hope, and it will be rushed and unexplained like other Korean dramas on the same genre, but one could dream... Thanks for talking to me, it was nice to have a long conversation I have been having with myself... I hope my ramblings make some sense since I tend to go on and on when I get excited and I don't check to what I write...
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9 hours ago, Chickpea said:
Greetings... thinking about Ep 14 in my sleep (egads!)... Yes, but, as the disclaimer at the beginning of the drama says, the drama takes a creative license to history. As things are working out, the only "creative license" is that a woman from the future is the reason So kills his brothers. Personally, I would have preferred a So who killed his brothers for, as you correctly state above, plotting against the King and Crown Prince with Eun dying in the cross-fighting. At least this would retain for our hero his dignity. The scenario that appears to be developing--and I could be wrong--makes So a love-struck fool who allows himself to be Yoo's "killing canine" and for those in this thread who object to the canine references with regard to So, those come directly from the dialogue and the writer, we're not making it up. I understand the writer appears to be trying to make the case for So's eventual killing of not only his brothers but their etended families and he or she wants to make it appear that So was manipulated by his love for HS and his hand was forced to protect her. Only this doesn't make sense. Had not JiMong stopped So, he would have cut down Yoo at the end of Ep. 14 and Weasel would have run away, he wouldn't dare try to strike at HS without Yoo's protection. Here's the other thing. Both JiMong and HS know the future. Here I go back to Taejo's warning to HS to do nothing and allow history to take its course. And HS tries to do this. But it seems her very presence in the past is enough to change it. Or is it. What about the Goryeo-HS, the one who is now taking our HS's place in the 21st Century. Had not the eclipse transported our 21st Century darling to Goryeo, is it not possible that So would have fallen for Soo anyway. But JiMong and HS know the future, remember, so they know that the king after Moo will be So. History is changed not because of their actions but because of their in-actions, or rather, because JiMong stops So from killing Yoo.
At present, we now have a situation where the actual history has been changed because Yoo is now king after Moo and before So. This attempt to keep to the history has actually resulted in a situation where the writer has given us an alternative history where someone who never was King becomes King.
Now, I think I read somewhere this is one of the first dramas made with Hollywood investors and that, obviously, is because of the popularity of the genre. I think the beauty of the first half of this drama had something to do with that fact that the drama was written to appeal to a broader-than-Korean audience so it doesn't really matter what the Korean rating numbers are. But to hold the entire story together for the international audience, the pieces have to fit together in the story. Beauty, romance, intrigue are all fine and good but if the package doesn't make sense, your international audiences are going to be frustrated and you may lose that viewership. For instance, my mother sent me my first drama, Winter Sonata, while I was living in Rome. I shared it with my colleagues. Everyone loved it. Until the scene where Yujin leaves the ticket to New York on the airport bench and flies off to Paris to study advanced Interior design. At that scene, everyone lost it. The thinking was, the love of your life is facing death or blindness and rather than go to him, you go off to study wallpaper and upholstery... For all of us, the entire drama was nonsense just because of that one scene. Now, perhaps it makes sense to Asians, and something gets lost in the translation but a drama designed to appeal to broader-than-Korean audiences should take those sensibilities into consideration.
Well, that's my two cents in the middle of the night... Now back to bed...
According to the history books So is the 4th king, I read it on a Korean history link a friend that is translating a history drama in Viki sent me, and he is the 4th, I know it is fantasy, but my thought is we read stuff that happened in history and we accept what the books say because we weren't there to see it first hand, but what if most of the stuff had a justification and not everything is black or white but with grey in between, what if the killing of an enemy is justified at the time the reason might be anything, but it wasn't out of ruthlessness, not that I excuse it, but it makes me think about it. Yes, So became a puppet for his love of Hae Soo, but he was destine to be just one from the moment his mom cut his face, with a face like that, (I am sorry he is so gorgeous I don't see it), he couldn't be a king, he was kicked out and sent as a hostage to another family and he learned to be a killer and a yes, he called himself a dog and a wolf, yet even with all that he still was a king, how? because enter the girl from the future who knew everything happened and Ji Mong who is there to move the puppets along, I keep on wondering why was So and Jimong together at that place, it seems coincidental but I think it was fate that brought them together from the beginning, all I can think is So is in this loop going back and forth, I don't know if it is called reincarnation since she couldn't be born in the past isn't she? I don't know much on the subject but it is more like she goes through betrayal and backstabbing everywhere she goes, she was at that river where she "died" crying because her best friend and boyfriend cheated on her... I think there is a way for her to change things and be happy. all she hast to do is she has to forgive and forget what happened and accept it in order to go on with her life, the thing she was most afraid was this king who kills her brothers, nothing in the past matter to her more than to protect them and by doing so she set a lot of things in motion no matter what she does she will never change the fate of those princes it was what it was and she couldn't change it, I don't think there is a HS in the future since she wakes up from a coma on the original, but it will be interesting to see if she would meddle in her life too. This type of drama reminds me of the matrix when the oracle told Neo don't worry about the vase and he says which one and by turning around he breaks it then she said I said don't worry about it, but what is going to make you think later is would you have broken it if I wouldn't have said nothing about it. To me it would've been better if So would've killed Yoo and you are right his brother is a weasel and he wouldn't dare strike anyone without protection from someone else, but remember So kills Yoo, then Wook who was poisoning the king accuses him or uses her and he becomes the next king, his younger brothers with the exception of Baek ah support Wook and So is out of luck, then his sister would use her new role as the sister of the king to kill or threaten Soo and marry So which is what she wants all along because she is so ambitious that she knows that out of all the brothers the only one who could be his father successor is So who is just as fierce and who understands politics better than them, it is innate and no cut in his face could stop him from being a ruler.
As a drama watcher I have always love this genre the what ifs, it is just that I get too emotional invested in them.
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I was waiting for this drama to end to watch it, I am not really good at waiting for things to go bad and then go back to normal, it kills me not to know how it will end. But I got sick and decided to give it a watch, just one episode I said, nope I watched 6 altogether and now I am up to ep 14 and kicking myself about it, I am thinking I am not going to watch till the last episode, but I am not sure it will work, I don't have the will power for it now, I am in love with this drama. I am so anxious, I keep telling myself it is only a show, but with some dramas that doesn't help either, I need a support group for drama addicts.
From the last three episodes we can see that we could never judge what the history books tell us, at least Hae Soo who was so afraid of the 4th Prince and tried to warn the others about him, she couldn't imagine the turn of events which lead to So turning against them, it is true So will end up killing his brothers, but there is a reason to it, first they plotted against their dad and then they killed one of the best kings so far, he had empathy, loyalty, he cared for his family and he wanted to do a good job and they killed him in a horrible way with Mercury, it was killing his brain no wonder he was seeing things and going crazy, that stuff is no joke. Backstabbers stabbing each other it is horrible, even her only friend who thank her for making her a court lady and even gave her a birthday a gift was working against her, I for one blame the king, he had too many heirs to the throne and he didn't even raise them to be good people, then he died without a word of wisdom for them, now for each one of them to get a turn on that seat they will have to eliminate each other till there is only one left. Even though the history books said he was cruel,I don't blame So for killing them, they were worst than him, they will eliminate the young ones first and then we know they will plot how to eliminate each other even though they are "allies" so So has to eliminate the older ones and please get rid of the queen and the sister too. Even though according to history he marries his sister I bet it is another way to keep Soo alive. At least in this mix of history and fantasy we can go back and see that some stuff some people did was a little justified... I love this drama it is just getting too intense for me I have to say bye to my nails.
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Ok I promised myself after MIR and all the time we have to wait for another season to never fall in love with a drama, but what to do, I am so happy for this series... I hate to be so easily convinced... SOTUS looks amazing...
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I haven't started it and I am waiting for at least 6 episodes to have enough to binge watching, but may I say this, LJK is so gorgeous I look at these gifs and I want to scream... OK that was all...
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Please don't post consecutive pictures of the kiss, if you already posted them don't post them again, yes, we all loved it, but don't spam the thread... Please follow the rules, don't quote pictures, gifs or images... Thanks
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1 hour ago, stroppyse said:
http://tvcast.naver.com/v/1059600/list/88758
Sung Moo and Soo Bong discussing creating an acceptable ending for W. Translation under spoiler.
SB: I can’t work for you. Even coming here, I was too, too…
SM: To properly do an ending is the reason I’ve called you here.
SB: I’ll cut it shortly. (responding to SM’s pointed look at his scruff)
SM: I want to finish W by giving it a happy ending.
SB: By happy ending, you mean…?
SM: Kang Chul has to find the real culprit, then punish him and make him go away forever. Or else, who knows what else will happen.
SB: Are you going to be killing the real culprit?
SM: He killed three real people and even tried to kill my daughter, would it be right if I just leave him alone? Even though he’s a murderer, he’s an offspring I gave birth to, I have to finish him directly.
(flashback to reading KC text in YJ’s room)
KC text: In order to get rid of the culprit, first, you have to give him an identity. Not as the apparition that he is now, but a person that I can catch. I’m sending you the entire file for the W project. In there, you will find 1,353 potential suspects, and you will have to create a new face for one of them. That way, it will make sense to me, since it’s only if it makes sense to me, that this can this end.
SM: You have to read all of this without skipping anything. And, anything that is inexplicable or overlapping has to be eliminated, or else Kang Chul may get suspicious. If Kang Chul gets suspicious, then it starts again. This damned curse.
SB: Teacher, we made the crimes just simply crimes, so how do we go about creating a real culprit now? Whatever scenario we made, I think there will be a hole somewhere.
SM: There will be a hole. There is nothing we can do about that. So, we keep that burden in mind and we create a face that Kang Chul can believe is the real culprit.
SB: A believable face?
SM: I’ve determined the face.
SB: The person that Kang Chul will find acceptable as the real culprit is only that person.
At least a writer that recognize that there are holes in his story and in a way the writer of this one is saying it too. I think the holes in the plot are getting extremely large, I somehow got turn off on ep 7 so I skipped ep 8 and now I think I'll have to go back to ep 4, I said it before the writer had to slow down the plot and the amnesia device was a way to do it, but now the dad the culprit?? He is the creator how is he going to be the culprit, he can't be a character of his own creation, I don't get the whole thing, I'll have to go back and re-watch and watch ep 8 too... The reason of the amnesia is because KC couldn't handle the fact that he is not real, and he knows who the creator was, etc... So once he gets his memories back how is he going to accept that the creator was the killer, somehow I think the explanation will be because he hates him deep down he can accept it, but then he has to accept that he is in a novel and he is not real... I don't know really, I need to re-watch it, to clear my head of all the possible scenarios... Thanks to for the translation, I wanted to know what they said in this scene...
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I insist that there are two KC like bizzarro world remember the old superman... I am pretty sure that is the guy with the hoodie...
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On 8/14/2016 at 8:47 AM, angelangie said:
what she probably trying to say is that the ranking might be a bit flaw.....as 'Doctors' is already in their last 2 weeks of airing....
and also there are more ppl ranking it...hence the ranking will drop depending on who rank them...
we can have ppl who give poor ranking because the subtitles is late, or some might be just plain hater.....
so the best way to enjoy a show / drama is dont take the ranking too hard or to heart too much.....as she is comparing to some other where.....some of the drama that werent even airing yet but had gain a pretty high ranking......so the ranking to be honestly is not really trusthworthy
On 8/14/2016 at 8:49 AM, maria1983 said:this is what i also understand .
and the fact that they give high raitings to dramas that even begin .
but is something usual in all this world .
Yes, it is exactly what I meant, but here it is out of context, it has something to do with Viki's rankings and channels, here it makes no sense, you have to read it and be a viki follower to really understand what I meant by this comment and I wasn't bashing this drama in any way since I am the manager of the channel there how can I bash my own baby, I was trying to reply to a worry follower who said the ranking is too low, but she and others don't see that it has a lot of followers and it has a 9.5 stars out of 10 that is pretty good if you ask me... besides the rankings given on a website mean nothing since they are based on personal opinions, and at times they are not even honest in what they say, some are not even watching the drama to dislike it or to like it, that is why I gave her examples of other channels that are being ranked at 9.7 with no episodes at all. I like this drama, I like the romance and the acting, I love the way KRW looks at her, I like the medical cases, they are they are resolved and they move to another case, that is what medical dramas are all about, showing the compassion of the doctors and the suffering of patients, this drama deals with the private life of the doctors their struggle and how they deal with their personal life and their professional life I don't think they can add anything more to it, in my opinion it is perfect the way it is, I really like it and anyone who likes it should not worry about who dislikes it or how high it is rated, just watch it and enjoy the ride...
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1 hour ago, thao_2512 said:
I think you meant " She's not only an actress but a symbol"
Maybe or yes, it has been long since my last English 101 class, I have my own style of writing and it is still a work in progress, No, what I meant is that for some people she is not really the actress Park Shin Hye who plays roles on TV or movies, to some people or fans, if we can call them that, she is a symbol someone you can't touch or criticize and even more someone who has to do what they say and be perfect all the time, like other idols in Korea who can't even date because fans get angry, so because of them she has to play these roles as if she was still the child actress and not a grown woman. to me she is an actress and someone who could play any role she wanted and it is not fair to put her in this box. In any case, like I said I wasn't criticizing her, but her followers, and I edited my original post and added to them (I hope it is OK) to the sentence to avoid misunderstandings ...
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44 minutes ago, shinhyefan said:
"she is not an actress"..
I don't agree with this statement. psh is an beloved actress. there are 2 type actress in sk
first like jun ji hyun, she an actress, she not doing bed scene or some racy scene in her history career until now. but she get daesang award for her acting skill n netizen in korea like her acting. this is what i believe sh more to this path.
second like kim tae hee, she an actress that doing bed scene n racy scene but netizen in korea still don't like her acting. but for me, kim tae hee is a great actress too.
for me, this both type actress still can call a great actress.
Please, don't be so offended I think you misunderstood what I said, to some she is a symbol a little sister someone they saw growing up on TV, they would not approved of her doing a bed scenes or something evil, I adore Park Shin Hye I have watched almost all of her dramas, even the ones I didn't like so I didn't say it to offend anyone or her, I agree she is really good and someone I enjoy watching because she is a good actress and she is just getting started she will be better and bigger with time, but to expect a racy scene in this drama is almost impossible, I know that for a fact and I don't mind it...
16 minutes ago, thao_2512 said:I agree everything you said until PSH isn't an actress...
So what is she if she isn't an actress?
Just because people don't have as many hot scenes as they want, now it's suddenly her fault?
This girl had her 1st kiss on screen when she was barely 17. She never said no to the script even she didn't even know what she was doing. I always feel bad for her
And Pinocchio has 4 kiss scenes she never said no with any of them either.
Sure she is a sweetheart and is loved by many but she is known as a professional actress that invested her time for her role (like martial arts for this and Goong S, gayageum for HS, attending law school for her role in MICN7)
After Heirs she said she was ready for more mature roles and she you could see she followed her words
Like I have mentioned earlier another writer's work OWW is very similar to Doctors- realistic and melo, didn't have much skinship either. And this is a human drama not romantic comedy that focus on the romance
But I guess it's always easy to blame the girl
I didn't say she is not an actress I said to some she is not an actress but a symbol, did you noticed the comma, I wasn't saying anything bad about her, but about the people who idolize her, she is an actress and she has the right to do all sorts of scenes, I never blamed her, I agree with you and I would never blame a woman for the choices she makes, we are free to make mistakes and to walk the way we want to, so no I'd never blame a girl, ever!
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2 hours ago, lclarakl said:
Sorry, is it just me, but was anyone else disappointed in the fishing trip? Yes, I know it's my own fault and, Yes, I let my imagination run wild, but I was hoping for a fishing trip with an overnight stay at the camping ground. I kinda wish I had written this scene; my imagination ca go there.........
...............then reality.....Lol! Korean dramas don't have that type of relationships, they don't show that type of intimacy and it might be because they are censored and fined if they cross the line, or because culturally they are not that close with each other, they have always a wall around them, husbands call their wives my son's mom instead of her name and before marriage they call them by a title or their last name, how close can you get to someone if you call him Mr. Smith or boss or CEO Smith, or manager. If you give people you meet a title and not a name I don't know if they can become closer to you, friends call each other friend or hyun or donsaeng based on their age and they have to keep a line of respect, brothers call sisters noonas and sisters call brothers oppas and even grandmas call their grandchildren by a title never by their names, so I don't think they are close maybe they love each other, but that closeness no... at least not in dramas, I don't know about real life, I hope it is different. True cable dramas are a bit racy, but I have never watched a Korean drama out of the hundreds I have watched where I go, wow that relationship is super satisfying and extremely romantic and intimate, except for Secret Garden maybe, not that much still censors and cultural barriers... Why are we expecting more out of this drama when PSH is their sweetheart and she is in the hearts of a lot of people, she is not an actress to them, but a symbol, I would like to see the movie or drama where she is going to do a racy scene or a more age appropriate acting scene, not this one I think something along the way, she is not a child she is 26. So doctors is well paced, the back hugs and small gestures show that they have a good relationship as good as it is going to get, the camping trip was a way to get "closer" and I bet people who watched it over there are so satisfied with it and raving about it, for us we watch our hard core scenes from other TV shows and we get used to our chaste dramas I don't think they will change any time soon, they are entertaining and a little frustrating at times, but we all know what to expect out of 20 episodes...
edited and fixed it, I am sorry if you got offended, but it is fixed...
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On 8/14/2016 at 0:44 PM, Ednalyn Macas said:
Very hard to understand indeed, transitions are missing.
You have to read it and follow it on Viki, here it is out of context... It has to do with viki channels and followers rating the drama and the channel
I know I ramble at times, plus I don't want to name the other drama and bring back the heated debate, people keep commenting about the ranking of the drama in our channel and saying it is lower of what it was, I am tired of explaining that it has 9.5 stars which is good since 10 is the maximum they can get. When it had 2000 followers rating it, it was higher at 9.7 some rated it before it started and lower it or gave it a higher ranking once they watched it, but now that more people have rated it, almost 5000, and after the drama that happened and furious fans who blame it for what happened are rating it too without watching it, just out of spite, some people gave it a bad rating thinking that would help the other drama, which lowered the number of stars to 9.5, but it is not a big deal since these are just personal opinions, not based on anything, but just personal taste, I was giving them examples of channels being rated now with no episodes at all so how can they be at 9.7 with just the names of the actors and no plot, which should count when you rate something, so who cares at the end if you like it you like it, to some it might be a 3, but if you enjoyed it, you still are going to love it and give it a 10 or a 9 or what ever. I am trying to be nice and I don't want to say anything negative, but I guess my message got lost in here you have to read it there... I am a bit calm, this was the 4th time I told someone that ratings in these channels are not important... I am sorry this is a bit off topic, but I see my name and saying my English was bad, just moderating at 3 am and it got to me since I am a moderator there and the manager so this is my baby for now, but I feel bad for the other drama since I volunteered there too so I have to be cautious on what I say about both of them, that was all...
On 8/14/2016 at 8:40 AM, Rin90 said:I maybe dumb. And i didnt understand lupita's commented. *Sigh*
Her english is a bit hard to catch up. Is she trying to tell, doctors gt lower ranking? At 9.5?
I was rambling and no, you had to read the comment before mine, I was replying to someone who said she felt bad the drama was so low in the ratings on the channel, which is not true, the drama has a 9.5 out of 10, .5 away from perfect, also I was trying to tell her that it didn't matter if the followers of the channel rated it lower, those are based on personal opinions and when it comes to channels in my experience, people tend to rate them without watching them just by how they feel about the actors, the teams or the site, that is why I gave her examples of channels we have that are rated at 9.7 or 9.9 when they have no episodes at all... You'd have understood my comment if you'd seen it int Viki and read it there, here it is out of context...
On 8/14/2016 at 8:26 AM, Tiggie2 said:I hope lupita311 doesn't mind me posting VIKi's reply here. I have seen her moderate this thread anyway.
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There are just some very bitter and childish ifans out there. Just because your drama is cut short or doesn't get the ratings it doesn't mean you should hate on such a well-made drama and discredit all the hard work the production team and actors /actresses have put into this drama. KRW and PSH have only one hour sleep per day just to bring us some enjoyment. If people don't like the drama then don't leave a comment. I have dropped many dramas but never left negative messages.
I do mind in a way, but I understand why you post it, here it looks out of context and I had to explain myself, twice, I am the manager of that channel in Viki and I am so tired of people commenting there how the drama has a lower rating in our channel of what it had, they ask what happened? to me it is ridiculous since it is at 9.5 out of 10 with 77k followers, and I am tired of explaining to them why and how it was lowered and at the end who cares, to like something you have to watch it yourself, who cares if others dislike it or their opinions anyway, that is all I was trying to say, this was the 4th or 5th message of the day saying it, and about the 10th saying it on another channel, it gets tiring, people care too much about rankings...
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I have the feeling the plot is getting too thick too soon, the writer has to slow it down or it will get too thick to solve it and it will be another let down, with an explanation which is not going to make any sense or something so trivial we the viewers will suffer at the end something like he didn't die or went back to his world just because... Great stuff just too fast only 5 episodes...
@shana0127 I totally agree, it is a bit crazy and illogical, I think the assistant is the second writer...
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14 minutes ago, MAROSA_JIN said:
Ohhh!!!!!!! OHHH!!!!!!!!! I am dying here, he is adorable, I can't wait till Monday...
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My guess is that hoodie guy is his alter ego created by nervous assistant, he told her that he loved the character and that he didn't want her father to kill him, what if one day he simply created another one in case the dad killed the original and he made a parallel story hence the two worlds in the title, not the real and the fantasy world as I have been thinking, but the alter ego since nervous guy is a different creator and he must be a bit evil himself he had those characteristics and that is why they want to destroy each other... something like bizzarro world in superman
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Please follow the rules, no direct links, we will remove them... thanks
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As usual I promised myself not to spoil the first episode, to hold on to the actual video even if it is raw and I failed again, thanks for the recaps, I am a bit iffy with what I read (I even add the voices to the recaps, lol), hopefully I get into it, I really want to love this drama... Kim Rae Won is amazing and I love Park Shin Hye too...
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Lee Joon Ki looks amazing, I can't wait, it is getting closer and closer what I am going to do till then, I am crawling the walls here...
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My Love is coming back, I absolutely positively love Lee Min Ho and I am waiting for this drama crawling the walls... My baby is back...
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I loved the series, too bad it finished the way it did, but why oh why did I have to read those chapters, I think it is too brutal for me, I put a limit to what I read and that was the last of it. I read the mangas or books to get a better look at the characters, but now I just don't want to read it any more... The webdrama was good though and I loved the characters especially GH he is something, but I give up on the series from now on, I can't go there.
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Please, keep all pictures, images and gifs about the drama, each actor has his/her own thread, don't post individual off topic pictures, thanks. Happy watching...
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Another mod reminder, please use a spoiler tag to post multiple images, only three images and the rest under a spoiler tag, thanks and happy watching...
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So no episode 16 today, what am I going to do till then??? I have two dramas on hold I guess that is what I do till one episode this week and the looong wait till next Monday