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  1. 5 hours ago, Clemzstar said:

    Hi all,

    Just asking for those that know how to speak Korean. Can someone share with me the actual pronunciation of when the F5 greet or speak to Captain Ri. I cannot seem to find online and google translate is not giving me what i want.

     

    It sounds to me like 5 words ending with Dong-ji (i could be wrong sorry!)

     

     

     

    I think they call him Ri Tae Jang Dong-ji. Tae Jang means Captain (something I picked up from Chuno lol!) and Dong-ji is Comrade. So it's Comrade Captain Ri in English. 

     

    I am also bowled by the word 'saudade' used in the lovely scene of Seri's tribute to the NK Ahjummas, where it was the name of the limited edition range of Seri' Choice cream. I paused to Google the meaning, and was gobsmacked by its meaning: "Saudade is a deep emotional state of nostalgic or profound melancholic longing for an absent somethings or someones that one cares for and/or loves while simultaneously having positive emotions towards the future. Moreover, it often carries a repressed knowledge that the object of longing might never be had again"

     

    And then I had rewind again to catch the exact Korean word used, and it was 'Keurium' and here's the exact meaning: In Korean, keurium (그리움) is probably closest to saudade. “It reflects a yearning for anything that has left a deep impression in the heart—a memory, a place, a person, etc.”

     

    So so lovely. Kudos to the translator for capturing the essence of an important which truly reflects the mood of the story. 

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  2. 6 minutes ago, L A said:

     

    P/S: Does any one find that soccer watching scene so emotional? To me nothing reunites the citizens and raises the spirit of the nation more than an international football match.

    Oh yes, me! I had a lump in my throat at that scene. It is so poignant in driving home the senselessness of a divided Korea, when they are essentially one people ❤️ Love how a sport against a 'common historical enemy' where pride is at stake unites people together. 

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  3. 2 hours ago, J13 said:

    @Hb_Yj I think he’s pointing it at CK but perhaps CK is standing under something? Looks like the other two are outside and CK is standing in a factory or something. I am really hoping nothing happens to MB :bawling: the fortune tellers prediction is starting to worry me now after seeing those pics. 
     

    I can’t wait for episode 13! I stayed awake last weekend to try see what time Netflix uploads each episode and they upload them around 2am here in Australia so I might actually stay up tonight to watch haha the addiction is so real! :joy: 
     

    Also, I reckon the gift is the rings :D

    Whereabouts are you @J13? I'm in Perth and new epis appear on my Netflix at 10.30pm. 2am would be a torturous wait! :)

     

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  4. 1 hour ago, newbie said:

    Hi all ,

    New guy to kdrama land here. Watched CLOY by accident but now totally hooked.

    I thought all KD romcoms have happy endings but I learned from this forum that it is not always so.

    So  now I actually think that Captain Ri will die in the end but will father Seri's children. This is based on my interpretation of the soyu drunk scene, that the good captain's wish will never materialize. 

    Is this kind of sad ending plausible in K-drama land? 

    This drama has been classified as a zippy romcom from the beginning, so i think we can rest assured the ending will be a light one. :)

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  5. 13 hours ago, cswcraze said:

    Anyong dungmu.  I have just joined this forum and information in here are overwhelming.
    I wonder why Chuno (The Slave Hunter) was mentioned in CLOY.  I can see the link of bringing in Staircase to Heaven.  Then what is the connection for Chuno?  I checked PDs and Writers are different.  If anyone could throw some light, I will appreciate that, because I like Chuno too. :) 

    In one of the earlier episodes in NK, Ju Meok (the kdrama fan) asked Seri what happened to Daegil cos he had not gotten to the end of the drama yet. Hence I was so tickled when he finally got to watch that tragic final episode at the Internet cafe. I loved Chuno too (it was one of my easiest kdramas), and I howled laughing when the Chuno OST came on. Ju Meok's reaction to that scene was also pretty much mine when Daegil died lol! 

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  6. So we all agree that Ep 12 is brilliant - it made me laugh so hard, the cameo appearance of Chuno+Jang Hyuk just killed me (that Chuno OST brought the feels all over again lol!) ; and then Memories of Alhambra dropped by as well just minutes later and I died all over again laughing! How Jakka-nim weaves these in, she is truly a genius! 

     

    And then there's also the hilarious shenanigans of our F5 and i laughed so hard at Chi Su's failed SK accent, and omggggg The Handsome One being inundated with calling cards by talent scouts - I see that so happening with him after this drama ends :)

     

    And then of course, the poignant scenes which were done so well, it left painful lumps in my throat. Seri breaking down upon thinking they had left, and us totally not expecting the surprise birthday party + Seri's overwhelmed reaction to it was just brilliant writing and acting. 

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  7. 3 hours ago, luvcrabbieshinhwa said:

    Since many of the comrades here are providing so much insightful details and analyses of the current episode, I can only contribute to some trivia about political background. 

     

    Yes, it's a drama which is more inclined to fantasy. But what makes CLOY interesting for me is the way the writer weaves the story to be as "close" and as"accurate" as it can be to the real-life situation. Some things are exaggerated (paragliding, for instance...though it's written to be more "make sense" with the rules of non-motoric object flying over so it won't be detected by radars + natural disaster to enable the security measures to be defunct), but some are made to be precisely mimicking the current situation (i.e: students' uniforms which are made to reflect the changing era in NK). 

     

    The highlight in this episode should be Seri's way back...which seems to be easy and 'comfortable' compared to any other options RJH has offered her. 

     

    Is it plausible? Can it really happen irl? I saw those questions are being posed. 

     

    It's quite plausible. 

    Pyo Chisoo noted that they went to the route to the South which has been de-mined. Such road exists. Though not many people are aware, or able to access it. DMZ is heavily guarded with all heavy security measures...but let's not forget it's 250 km long and 4-5 km wide (Junghyuk only brought Seri to the border of Northern Limit Line which is 2 km wide, btw). There's bound to be a "hole" where it isn't guarded. However, it's not easily accessible even without being guarded due to at least 2 reasons: wildlife and landmines. 

     

    Now landmines. Chisoo also mentioned that the road is cleared of landmines. Such landmines are forbidden under International Law and both Koreas have signed and ratified the law to disarm and not to plant more landmines across the DMZ (or anywhere within territory). 

     

    However, they've both failed to comply with the law because of two reasons, at least. First, there's been MILLIONS of landmines within NLL and SLL (North - South Limit Line) and it's predicted that it'd take 250 years for both of them to de-mine. It's extremely dangerous and difficult to do so. They have to do it manually since it's buried and pretty undetected and many landmines are shifted around within the 70 years of separation due to natural causes. Both Koreas have tried to de-mine (either jointly and separately) some areas since the early Sunshine policy period and the current period (2017 Panmunjeom Declaration)... So some lands/border points are free of mine already...which are closer to where Company 5 in the drama is supposedly posted (I suppose it's within Gyeongi-do borderline since they can see Bukhansan...not the ones in Gangwon-do) in the drama. 

     

    As pointed out in this thread, if there's such an 'easy way' then many NK people would've been defected. But it's not that easy, since it's not accessible. Soldiers may defect through that road if they're familiar enough with the area...the drama touched it a little bit in this episode and there are few occurrences where soldiers would defect by simply crossing JSA border (it's not that easy since it's even more heavily guarded...even if one tries, he/she could've been shot on the spot by either side...or sent back for being suspected as a spy). Also, both Koreas are reluctant to remove the landmines for security reasons. Demining means that people can defect to either Koreas more easily and also make either Koreas more vulnerable to attacks from either side (remember that they're only having CEASEFIRE agreement. The war has not ended, yet). That's why they also maintain the landmines as a part of front-line defense measure. 

     

    Back to the drama, the road Seri's taken to go back to the South is actually plausible...though it's not as easy as it's depicted in the drama hehe. 

     

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    Possible ending. 

    I mentioned once here that I'm inclined Junghyuk would defect to be with Seri...cuz maintaining respective citizenship isn't possible (even with them being in Switzerland). Seri defecting wouldn't sit well with SK audience. 

     

    Another possibility: fantasy Reunification...which is possible since it's a "drama". But then again it might not sit well with SK audiences since currently the NK-SK relationship is cold. I wouldn't rule out this possibility, though. 

     

    One possibility that's plausible yet I haven't seen it being mentioned: signing peace treaty to end Korean War. Once it's signed, both countries can treat each other normally, meaning people and goods and everything can pass border [more] easily. It does not mean Reunification...only two separate countries. 

    Thank you for this very insightful info on the geo-political backdrop. I've never really known much abt the SK-NK divide, but thanks to this drama I'm so intrigued by it now. If only I was as focused and as diligent as this when studying history back in school (or had history/social studies lessons come alive by amazing dramas and Hyunbin lol!). 

     

    Love the peace treaty possibility! It doesn't seem as far-fetched as reunification or defection and might be the most diplomatic option the writer has. 

     

    And looking at your name.... Seolma.... Are you an Orange? Cos Omo! I am a fan of another Junghyuk too and I think I've read your blog before :)

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  8. Annyeong tongmu! My first time posting anything here after being a lurker for the longest time. I don't think I can sleep after ep9, with goosebumps and various emotions running thru my mind.

     

    That last scene was obviously the clincher, but for me the whole mood was set as they made their way to the DMZ. That scene of the silhouette of Seri and the boys trekking on the horizon with the military-drum tune in the background was beautiful. The old abandoned house with mementos of family and time (what looked like an old photo frame of old faded family photos lying broken on the road, the broken clock frozen in time) all served as a heartbreaking reminder of the senselessness of families split/separated by war/ideology.

     

    And then Seri and the ducklings sitting in a row, and Joo Meok pointing out how they can see that mountain in Seoul from where they were. So near, yet so far and so different. And we are talking about one people from what was formerly one country here. Truly heartbreaking. 

     

    And baby Eun Dong saying he hasn't seen his mom, and can only see his mom upon his discharge 9 years away. So sad when juxtaposed with Seri's own relationship with her mom/non-mom. 

     

    And my take of the kiss - it was so full of love and desperation, yet non-sexual, and somehow I feel guilty looking at them, like it was meant to be their moment and something that we are not privy to. I think gamtong-nim had that objective in mind, cos the angles are all 'you can see but you can't really see', if you know what I mean. I'm still a blubbering mess here. 

     

    Gosh, so heartbreakingly beautiful. 

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