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    [Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] Story of Yan Xi’s Palace 延禧攻略

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    9 hours ago, lyserose said:

    I have posted their dialogue in as much details as possible (I hope :)) in page 19, but I will post it again here for you under spoiler

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    Before the argument, QL was very angry at YL for poisoning Er Qing because she is a minister's wife/a noblewoman. But as expected by Empress Xian, QL would only get angry with her temporarily and would go running back to her soon and she was right. He was ready to go to her, only for Empress Xian to intercept and told him about YL taking anti-pregnancy medicine.

    The noteable  points in the arguement:

    1) QL asked YL why she took the birth control medicine but she didn't answer him. So, he came up with all his theories and assumption and simply ask her to verify with a "yes" or "no".

    2) QL said, YL set up every event from winning Dowager's favour at Yuan Ming Garden (refer to episode 42) which actually her attempt to get into QL's harem and she said YES.

    3) QL said YL used him to avenge Fuca and she said YES. 

    4) QL said that YL pulled a string on him, playing with his heart so that she could get promoted till she could reach a level where she can take her revenge on Consort Chun and she said YES. 

    5) QL said, once YL had taken her revenge, she feels that QL could no longer be toyed around and so treating him coldly and distancing herself from him --- YL hesitated and her initial answer was "If you already know the answer, then why are you asking?" --- but QL demanded an answer and she said YES. 

    6) YL then confirmed to QL that it was because of wanting to avenge Fuca that she decided to become QL's concubine.

    7) QL, though heartbroken, didn't give up hope and so he asked her why did YL gifted him the fur hat (if she really has no love for him) and YL said, because she felt guilty since he treated her too well. 

    8) QL summed up that to YL, he means nothing to her but just a piece of chess for her scheming. 

    9) YL obviously angry with QL, accusing him of cheating on Fuca and asked him why he needs to love Er Qing out of all women but QL defended that he is innocent but YL insisted to believe that he is guilty. QL said, so in YL's eyes, he is a lecherous man who bedded his official's wife.

    10) YL said that QL is cruel for making use of Fuca's death to punish his officials and QL explained that he needs a reason to punish those corrupt officials and Fuca is to serve her purpose as an Empress even in death.

    11) QL then said to YL that she finally poured out her real feelings and that he had been too nice to her. Then he reminded her that he is an Emperor and that an Emperor is cruel. He said that whether she is willing or not, YL is his and will spend the rest of her life trapped in the Forbidden City.

    12) Then before he left, he told her to no longer consume the birth control medicine since he won't visit her anymore.

     

    Please note that YL left with Dowager is not directly related to this arguement. It was some arguement between QL and Dowager concerning his birth mother that Dowager left to Yuan Ming Garden and brought along YL with her. 

     

    It is also important to know that prior to this QL already suspected that YL got together with him to lead him to the truth about Consort Chun and all her evil deeds (he voiced this suspicion in episode 52). Thus, her consuming of the anti pregnancy medicine deemed to confirm his suspicion and guess, he already had all those theories in mind when he confronted her. 

     

     

    Ok, please take a breather cause this will be a long one :)

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    YL visited CB as QL sentenced her to be imprisoned at Ling Jing Garden.

    YL told CB that her family members (actually referring to the lord and his clan who gifted CB to QL) were all sentenced to death because of her attempt murder on QL (she tried to kill him with a hairpin). YL said she finally understand why CB did the murder attempt in public when she could kill QL secretly. It was because she wanted to bring down her family members. CB told YL that in order to return into QL's good grace, the lord looked for the most beautiful maiden in his village and they came across CB. She was drugged and kidnapped and only agreed to enter the palace because the lord held her son as ransom. On the way to the Forbidden City, her maid told CB that her son who tried to look for his mother fell into a hunter's animal trap and fell to death. CB attempted suicide to join her son in death but Fuheng saved her (and that's her reason for holding a grudge against him). CB then told (more like realizing) YL that her planning actually helped YL to regain back QL's favour. Because of QL feeling guilty that YL suffered through the house arrest (being starved to death) and his suspicion that she may eloped with Fuheng, he will become more doting on YL and the setup made their relationship even stronger than before. CB then asked YL what is her final trick and YL said, she is pregnant. CB said her plan to destroy them all would have worked if only Fuheng wasn't a coward who choose to bless YL to resume her life as a consort to QL instead of finally getting to marry the woman he loves. But YL said, it's not because Fuheng blessed her, it's because Fuheng understands her. And YL said, she has made decision to re-enter the palace (refer to episode 42) to become QL's consort and she still stand by her decision (thus never thought of eloping). Before YL left, she asked CB why she never mentioned anything about her husband and so CB said she does not have her husband. She said her beauty is a curse and she is just a toy being passed around among men. CB said YL is very fortunate because she has 2 men who really love her. CB said she tried everything to win QL's heart but all he think of is YL and she tried everything to tempt Fuheng to go with her plan but all he cared about was YL's best interest. CB finally asked YL, between these two men, who is the one YL actually love? YL didn't answer and told CB to continue pretending to be crazy as that is the only reason that will keep her alive.

     

    I don't know if Step Empress know about QL fake doting on CB to win YL back, though I think not likely. I guess they all thought CB fell out of QL's favour for trying to frame YL and attempting to murder QL, and YL being coincidentally pregnant, thus returning to his good grace. The only people who likely knew of QL's strategy are CB and YL. Interestingly, they were surprised (esp YCW)  by her pregnancy. Because for all they knew, QL no longer favoured her, not likely visiting her and how did she ended up getting pregnant? LOL. 

     

    In episode 52, before Consort Yu being imprisoned in her palace, she whispered to Yongqi to listen and obey YL from that moment on. She knew what her fate would be after the staged poisoning incident (she was sent to temple to become a nun) and she knew YL will protect Yongqi. 

     

    In episode 48, De Sheng asking Li Yu of what is so special about YL since QL dotes on her so much, so LY let DS witnessed them being lovey-dovey while doing the painting. After witnessing the lovebirds, DS said that YL is very brave. DS said, he never came across a person that brave who dared to say that the emperor has bad taste and the emperor's poems are not good. DS said that YL seems to put her life at risk all the time. LY told DS that he also never came across a woman like YL but the fact that she treated QL like he is just an ordinary person and not an emperor (seems to imply that she treated him like a man instead of a ruler to respect and abide) is what made QL feels that YL is very special.

     

    Ok, there you have it.:lol:

     

     

    @Cedric Ong Thanks for the info on the jade ring. 

    Anyway, I read some updates on wikipedia on Consort Ling. It was mentioned that she was granted the title of Imperial Noble Consort Lingyi right after her death in 1775., then when QL abdicated, he elevated her to the title of Empress Xiaoyi in 1796. It was only after QL's death and Jiaqing inherited the throne that her son gave her the title Empress Xiaoyichun. Don't know what's the difference between "Empress Xiaoyi" and "Empress Xiaoyichun".

     

    @lyserose thank you so much for your explaination for eps 55. Now I understand. 

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    [Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] Story of Yan Xi’s Palace 延禧攻略

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    1 minute ago, Cedric Ong said:

    Fuheng's brother. It was hinted in the drama when once Erqing vowed that the son has the blood of Fucha's family...instead of simply saying Fuheng. And i think some chinese articles or interviews also confirmed that.

    Thanks @Cedric. You are amazing! :) Yes do remembered she said the child has blood of Fucha then why was she begging QL to not take her son away from her?

     

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    [Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] Story of Yan Xi’s Palace 延禧攻略

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    Hahahaha I think it is quite funny we are keeping these conversations going because we (maybe just me) are not wanting to move on from Yanxi. (side note, can someone plsss recommend someone similar to Yanxi... i think I need to move on but the bar has been set pretty high with Yanxi)

     

    I think both YL and QL are attracted on an intellectual level as well. Very early on, YL realised how intelligent QL is. There was a tea scene when YL was  a servant girl working for Fuca, YL mentioned QL is smart  and complicated and he will never revealed what tea he likes to drink ... and she always make reference how intelligent he is.  I think QL also realised how smart YL is too. ...how fast her brain work (he said that in chinese).  They both challenge each other intellectually. Do you guys agree with this?  I think this has added the attraction and mutual respect they have for each other. 
    With Fuheng, YL respects and loves him but not on the same level of love between QL and her.  Fuheng and YL (like a few people mentioned previously) is more sweet and innocent love. "Young" love.  Whereas love between QL and YL is more "grown up" and more mature type of love. My opinion, QL is more suitable for YL because of her strong character and I think she is the type that needs to have powerful partner (husband).  Someone who will challenge her intellectually and emotionally. Thoughts? 

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    [Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] Story of Yan Xi’s Palace 延禧攻略

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    3 hours ago, Cedric Ong said:

    Thks for asking. After checking...i find this is another thoughtful theme in the drama. They like different flowers.

     

    Fuca likes 茉莉花 Mo Li Hua or Jasmine. She planted a plot in her palace where Yingluo helped to take care of. 

     

    Yingluo likes 梔子花 Zhi Zi Hua...there are a few names Gardenia jasminoides, gardenia and cape jasmine. This and Jasmine are different species but the name jasmine appeared in it bcos earlier people thought they might be related.

     

    Both are white. But Jasmine flowers are smaller while Gardenia is bigger. They also smell slightly similar though Jasmine is softer and sweeter while Gardenia is stronger and creamier. 

     

    The picture below...top is Jasmine, below is Gardenia.

     

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    I read these are planned for a few reasons. 

    1) Yingluo herself wanted something similar to remember a person she loved but yet not the same as Jasmine only belongs to Fuca. At the same time might be part of her initial plan to constantly remind Qianlong of Fuca...not forget her.

    2) Gardenia flowers are bigger with a stronger smell. And its flower theme is everlasting love and strength. And the plant itself is not as fragile as Jasmine. It suits Yingluo.

    Jasmine flowers are smaller, smell more gentle and its flower theme is also love but purity too. It suits Fuca.

     

    In the past, poets prefer jasmine...they feel it is more elegant and the smell not as overpowering as gardenia.

    Wow! Thank you for checking and clarifying. QL noticed the flowers in eps 43 while he never  noticed at Fuca’s. Quite amazing these subtle details are put into the storyline. 

     

    Do we know why QL loved Consort Ling so much in history?

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    [Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] Story of Yan Xi’s Palace 延禧攻略

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    Yanxi - my first Chinese Drama and I absolutely love it. I am also having withdrawal too.

     

    I love the script and how the story is closely related to history (from my understanding).

     

    The characters are well developed. In particular the main female characters were strong and independent and were not sexualize or objectify.  I love the main characters WYL - she is so intelligent, funny and lovable. Fuheng is such a gentleman and righteous. And off course the Emperor, I love this character. He was portrayed as intelligent, firm but not ruthless and thought he was quite funny. 

     

    The story was serious but yet humorous. The music was brilliant. 

     

    I thought the whole drama was classy too. I wished we could have seen those uncut scenes. It felt there were a lot of scene prior to 43, but the part with WYL and QL was rushed ( understand it was supposed to be 90 eps). Wish we could have seen QL humorous and loving scene towards WYL after 64 when she was pregnant. So everyone is convinced at the end WYL loves QL?

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    [Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] Story of Yan Xi’s Palace 延禧攻略

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    18 minutes ago, lyserose said:

    It is obvious QL loves YL. He was honest to Chen Bi that YL is the one in his heart and asking her if she didn't mind that he was just using her to test YL's feeling for him. He probably liked Chen Bi but all the excessive favours and affection he showered her was to make YL jealous. He placed her for training at Yanxi just so he could find out if YL ever did think and talk about him. When YL and QL recoinciled, he admitted to YL that he never loved Chen Bi. 

     

    That part at Chang Chun palace is a bit tricky because I feel that YL was sincerely grieving MY's passing. In fact, only after she stopped crying and about to walk away that she suddenly felt something not right that Fuheng was there and so she asked him of how did he happened to know her whereabout? And Fuheng said it was Chen Bi who told him that she went missing. 

     

    From that point, YL probably could guess of Chen Bi's malicious intention. That's when she started to investigate MY's death and went to see QL. I think everything became clear to her once QL refused to see her (she could probably guessed that QL already seen her with Fuheng at Chang Chun) and so she came up with different plan. I don't see any point for her to make him even more jealous at this stage because she was actually more concerned about Chen Bi's evil deeds.

     

     

    when did QL admit to YL he never loved Chen Bi (i must have missed this)?  (oh yes it is obvious QL loved YL...I just wasn't sure whether QL loved Chen Bi too. 

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    Does QL loved/liked Chen Bi? Or was QL doing it to make YL jealous?

     

    Also the scene when QL went looking for YL at Chang Chun Palace and saw YL crying while Fuheng was there. Does anyone think YL actually look QL will go looking for her and she orchestrated that scene... after QL left angrily, she turned around and immediately stopped crying. It was very sudden and deliberate (understand YL said she shouldn't have behaved like that but it seem like she created the scene for QL to see to make him jeaslous?).

     

     

     

     

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