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Pleasd VOTE for Dots! Soompi's Best drama of 2016... 

Don't mean to be late to the party, but I just want to say to those who called us delulu ... Muwahahahaha! It's all right. All is forgiven. We just feel great that we've been right all along and have been vindicated! 

To Ace Chingu, R, A, P, S, U, K, AP, C, N, J, M, and B ... thanks for lighting up the rooms! And I still say we gotta crash that one marsupial's site. 

To the SS thread here ... Congratulations!

Simul-posting with @hclover96. Hehe. Thanks for translating and for pretty much everything! And thanks to the others (you know who you are), who keep us updated faster than @Amy Phan can say cheesesticks. 

Credit for all/many of the new info/updates that everyone has been seeing on SNS (especially IG) the last few days go to C fans, who are actually the resourceful and patient detectives. They're the original source who are always on top of things. Meanwhile, some folks just like to piggyback on their hard work afterwards. Sigh.  Really, it's all right to give proper credit. Just typing "Cr. to Weibo or Baidu" would even suffice. Sigh.

Also, AGAIN, the INQUISITR is an unreliable source. It's a tabloid.

This ...

makes me think of this ... (One of Sigang's final two posts of 2016. HUHUHUHU. Damn. I hope she returns this year!)

On August 3, 2016 at 9:23 PM, SSulleim said:

a little rough trans and sorry to make a long story short(focus on kikyo  part)

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since the interviews went underway in two different rooms, they didn't have chance to see Jiwon(cause they waited for Kyo), but luckily kyo's interviewing room was the same floor where they waited, so they had a good chance to give gifts to kyo in person,  when they walked straightforwardly towards kyo with their hearts pounding so hard , out of the blue, Jk popped up and stood making his wondering look beside them (they didn't even notice there was jk cause they didn't expect jk to show up and their eyes were all for kyo at that time)they realized then that ki came upstairs with kyo. they tried so hard to stay calm and hold back their excitement cause they saw sigang(kikyo) together and when they gave gift bags to kyo, ki seemed still wondering and searching for his gifts, so one of the members kindly told him that they've already given his gifts to his manager, and then he said "Ah~" and looked very pleased .

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p.s: the dvd commentary support team told us to expect the couple commentary cause its vibe was so good , the running time would come out as we wanted.

the best part for me was ki escorting kyo and ki might wait until kyo finished her interview.

 

 

 

A big thank you to @thm55 and Ace chingu! You guys always come through for the gang and the rest of the shippers!

And I bow down to your very keen/perceptive ears, @thm55!

Simul-post with @hclover96!

Full translation of Ki's speech at the Korean Producer Awards, courtesy of Ace chingu!

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Hello, this is SJK. I am glad to be here. A lot of thoughts occurred to me while I was watching the Korea Producer Daesang ceremony from my table. I have received a lot of awards thanks to my appearance in DOTS, but this PD award made me the happiest. It is because winning this award means I am acknowledged by PDs. The most important thing is while I enjoyed glorious moments (at other award ceremonies), this is the first award ceremony with our two commanders. That makes me so happy. I really appreciate them. I thank you, KES and KWS, two writers who make Korean hearts flutter with such good scripts.

 

While listening to the speech by Dong Yup Shin sunbae-nim, I realized mutual praise between cast members and crew members on the set is important ... but I did not practice it. I complained but never gave a compliment to PD Lee, who endured a lot of hardships at the shooting site. Taking advantage of this ceremony, I offer him my praise. (Hahaha) PD Baek Sanghoon, I really appreciate your great help. And I want to deliver my thanks to other cast members on the set and the crew, who supported silently behind the scenes.

 

Uh ... Is this ceremony going to be aired? My father and mother ... I received the big award again. Hope you congratulate me together ...

 

And lastly, in Korea when the drama is produced, actors have more spotlight than actresses. To me, this drama was really a big project and the very first drama that I appeared in as soon as I was discharged from the army … such a big project ... I want to share the glory of this award with my partner SHK-ssi, who lessened my burden and being together with me made me feel so reassured.

 

While watching the ceremony, I listened to really diverse professionals ... many veterans from various fields---directors, writers and staff. And I’ve learned a lot from them as a [still] young actor. I am fortunate to be here. I learned a lot from them. A while ago, the speech by Kim Mun Suk, the radio scriptwriter, touched me so much. She said, "The scripts always vanish into the air.” While watching her tear up … I will try to be an actor who makes writers’ precious scripts come alive.

 

 

 

 

Full translation of Ki's speech at the Korean Producer Awards, courtesy of Ace chingu!

Original ... scapped by @khxy! Thank you, khxy!

Look out in there!!! 

As the saying goes, beware of a wolf in sheep's clothing!

And really, why create an account just to raise doubts? If you have doubts, then, why be a shipper?

Also, why link to negative comments about SS? Or bring ugly comments from outside regarding Ki and PBG's friendship? We know hurtful things are said about SS, but such comments have no place in the thread AT ALL! So, why bring them there? The thread is where fans should feel secure; it's where they can get away from all that negativity.

For anyone who still wonders, I suggest starting from the beginning! Read from page 1. Peeps would find many great analyses from fans, especially longtime respective fans of Ki and Kyo. Here are a couple from @ilovesjk, who's my go-to for info on Ki's history.   

On April 1, 2016 at 11:39 AM, ilovesjk said:

Here's my attempt to cheer everyone up.  

 

The difference between NOT in a relationship with a costar versus IN a relationship with a costar:

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Song Joong Ki and Park Bo Young (Werewolf Boy)

• Movie was a success.
• "Dating rumors" started by SJK himself. 
• Have tons of close selcas.
• SJK openly express affection towards PBY. 
• Uses smooth skinship and words during interviews and press conferences.
• Have nothing to do with each other outside of work.

 

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VERSUS

Song Joong Ki and Song Hye Kyo (Descendants of the Sun)

• Drama is a success.
• Dating rumors because the two were spotted holding hands in New York. 
• Hangs out after hours having intimate tea time and dinner, nothing related to work.
• Openly expresses they hang out and have talks over drinks, nothing related to work.
• In the public's eyes, they are strangers.
• Even at the party they both hosted, they sat on opposites ends of the room.

 

 

And here's @ilovesjk's masterpiece---the timeline! LOL. I think this is my 2nd time re-posting this? The timeline does need to be updated---BY SO MUCH---however, it does show that from the beginning this ship has been sailing itself! Muwahaha.

On April 10, 2016 at 8:49 PM, ilovesjk said:

 So I mentioned previously about a theory I had that strongly convinces me that SongSong are real and time finally allowed me to write it. Bare with me as this will be the longest post of life.

Now this isn't anything new or some secret stuff I managed to snag from an insider but are just an accumulation of events and popular topic of discussions we've had in this thread. I just wanted to gather all of them into one piece and stem my reasoning from there.

To begin, above all else, the thing that convinces me the most about them is how blatantly inconsistent they've been since the beginning until this very day. So this will be my main focus of this post.

Here's what I mean:

May 19, 2015: Articles of SHK's Elle Magazine interview were translated and in there she dishes on SJK, sharing that they first met during the set of TWTWB and coincidentally on several more counts at cafes and always greeted each other well. She also mentions she feels apologetic towards him that fresh out of military, he isn't being paired up with a pretty young actress but instead with her. At this I want to say they aren't complete strangers to one another but can't really say they're friends either, due to the gaps of familiarity her words conveyed.

May 30, 2015: SJK's photo was uploaded onto @chulhwa's Instagram and the first person to comment was SHK. To me, I guess this solidifies that they're friendly. They obviously have mutual friends and hang out at the same places.

October 2015: SJK is careful with his words when talking about SHK in his Elle Magazine interview. He was a little hesitant to say they are compatible, feeling he may be giving himself too much credit to dare say he's a good match with THE Song Hye Kyo. Like the respectful man he is, his comment here evidently shows respect towards a sunbaenim and a noona and someone of higher stature in the showbiz. Note, he does call her noona in this interview. But he also mentioned that the two are so close to the point of confusing the staff and even gaining an advice from Writer Kim telling him to date properly. I guess with this interview, we can take away that the two are close and enjoy working together.

September 28, 2015: The cast and crew jets off to Greece. Everyone was spotted upon arrival to the airport but SHK. A fan account revealed SJK and SHK were both spotted together by the boarding area. The most interesting part about this day was right before the airport, SJK was hanging out at studio concrete. It would be safe to assume the two were there together before heading to the airport.

January 24, 2016: The two bought a birthday cake to celebrate Private Puppy's birthday. This we just found out recently. So alright, they were still meeting up after filming wrapped up and even making decisions together. They are beyond close at this point because what colleagues do this anyway? At least they haven't done this with any of their previous ones.

Somewhere in between January 28, 2016 - February 20, 2016: The very famous and most talked about among shippers, the New York rendezvous! So the original post, which wasn't known to the public until later but it came from a friend of the foreign exchange student and it mentioned she spotted a handsome guy at the store which drew her attention to him. After taking a closer look, she realized it was SJK. He was holding the hand of a girl who was pretty much covered up but can clearly be seen to be SHK. If any of this holding hand is true then obviously they are dating now. I, for one, believe it's true, but let's say even if it's not true, we at least know they were in New York together, for something completely unrelated to work.

February 22, 2016: So despite not knowing about the New York sighting yet, what we got so far was that the two are pretty close. So of course this was the most anticipated press conference where we'd finally get to see them together and get a feel of their chemistry. But nope, the most anticipated press conference turned into the ultimate press conference of awkwardness real quick. This sent fans of the show in frenzied, worrying about their onscreen chemistry since the two are practically strangers in real life. At this point, I was questioning it too. But later realized that it was more suspicious than disappointing, especially from judging SJK, the mastermind of Public Relations. Why was he anything but that on this particular day? One important thing we got out of this was he addresses SHK as Song Hye Kyo-ssi and no longer noona as he did previously.

February 24, 2016: Come the big day and everyone was blown away! Yup blown away! They couldn't believe how much brewing chemistry these two had with the question of whether they were even acting up for debate.

March 16, 2016: Mid Press Conference. We didn't get to witness this but got a scope of it through articles and it seemed they were more relaxed. Still not relaxed enough to be considered "close" as they professed themselves, however. But SJK's lack of promotional tactics remained suspicious to me.

March 21, 2016: The two were swept up in dating rumors in which both agencies released official statements confirming their meet up in New York but only as close colleagues. This was the game changer! Their aloof behaviors at the press conference back fired on them, raising questions everywhere. If they were so close to even hang out half way around the world and are truly nothing but close colleagues, what was the distant behaviors all about? What were they trying to hide? The puzzle pieces were slowly coming together.

March 28, 2016: The two met up, accompanied by 2 alpha team members for dinner and late night tea. Said to have stayed at the restaurant until 3AM. Something is really fishy. This really backed up the New York meeting for me that it wasn't coincidental like their agencies have claimed but rather planned by both parties. Relating it back to their suspicious behaviors during the press conference, I was pretty much sold on the idea that these two are dating!

Somewhere in March: SHK's personal hair stylist was spotted on the set of SJK's LG Bamboo Salt cf shoot. Note, they did not share this stylist prior to DOTS otherwise SHK would have mentioned it as she continuously mentioned during TWTWB that her and JIS used to share the same makeup artist. The two have gotten close enough to even start sharing staffs.

March 30, 2016: SJK gave an on air interview on News9. Was asked about the rumors and didn't deny them. Instead he answered vaguely that the two discuss this matter over drinks and are enjoying it. So he basically confirmed that they meet up often and are pretty close. Again he continues to address SHK as Song Hye Kyo-ssi.

April 1, 2016: They co-hosted a congratulatory party. Really, mere colleagues do stuff like this? Since when? Expecting that since they already publicly declared their closeness and nothing should be suspected of the two, they'd have no problem being seen together but nope, not the case. Albeit from their continuous claims of being close colleagues to cover up their New York sighting and other outings, they went back to their aloof behaviors, going the extra mile to stay apart.

April 4, 2016: Their 007 airport mission took my suspicion to the next level. With SJK posing as a decoy to distract the attention only to allow SHK to get through without trouble, securely and comfortably abandoning his staffs and joining SHK and hers on the other side. Again, the sharing of staffs.

Upon arrival to Hong Kong the two were spotted walking side by side until they spotted paparazzi in which SHK obviously sprinted ahead of SJK, and her manager proceeding to walk between them. But if the two are close, there wouldn't be a problem walking side by side. So why the need to be so cautious?

Later during dinner, the same choreographed seating was arranged with Ms Park in between them, which was an amusement to the HK press, making sure to mention this part in details in next day's published article.

April 5, 2016: HK press conference and we get a complete swap of them being more open and showcasing their closeness. Even during dinner, SHK suddenly decides to shower the fans with 4 photos of the two on her Instagram account, completely contradicting what the HK press had to say about them in their reports. After dinner, their mission continues with the two escaping backdoor and was reportedly chauffeured by the famous chef of the restaurant supposedly back to their hotel.

April 6, 2016: SHK shows up to the airport in the best mood ever but wearing the same exact clothes from the previous night. And the rest is for your minds to wonder...

April 6, 2016 - April 9, 2016: SJK was spotted with SHK's hair stylist yet again. She did not leave back with SHK but instead stayed behind with SJK.

In conclusion, from the beginning until now, the two have shown a pattern of inconsistency, contradicting their claims over and over again. If there was nothing to hide, what's the point in going through so much trouble? Say they're close and just stick to it! How hard can that possibly be? Also notice how the only times they appear not close are times in front of the media with Hong Kong as an exception?

For comparison's sake, I will bring up their previous costars.

SHK+JIS: From beginning to end, continuously praised each other as colleagues, harping about how much of an honor it was for both to meet in a project together. Sharing subtle laughs here and there. Contact ended once drama ended.

SJK+MCW: From beginning to end, excessive praising and skinships, openly "confessing". Contact ended once drama ended.

SJK+PBY: From beginning to end, excessive praising and skinships, openly "confessing". He supports her in her endeavors by attending her movie premieres but it pretty much ends there.

I think I've written enough so I will leave the rest for you all to form your own judgment. I hope I made some kind of sense because I tried to be as brief as possible also I wrote this fairly quickly.

what Kyo really said

" I don't have male friends, even YAI who is from the same agency and SJK who I did a drama with and I am very close to them - they probably see me as a noona who treats them to meals, isn't it so?"

she threw the question back at the reporter and didn't call them siblings.

Kyo also mentioned Julia Roberts role in Pretty Woman and Notting Hill as female roles that had some sort of an impact.

Also talked about wanting to work on a project involving many female actresses like the Ocean's 8 movie that they're doing in hollywood. Mentions Jun ji hyun and Son ye jin by name. (*please make  this happen!!!!!)

cr. W Korea

Heh. Ki's personal space extends to Kyo's chair. When it was just the two of them, their comfort level ratcheted up, as the guy cozily slung his arm on the back of her chair throughout the interview. Her seat was like a magnet. The flirtatious banter and his instinctive considerateness towards her will kill fans (yummm melon). Kyo's sharp! She loves to tease and knows how to keep up with the cheeky Ki; it goes the other way around, too. This was like the extended version of what we saw from those candid fancams at Baeksang ... lots of cute laughing, and Kyo jokingly hitting his back. And another fist bump! Their managers got a minor shout-out, and Ki even threw in a tip on what men find attractive. Can't wait to watch it all in full.

Oh ... and still missing Sigang! 

so finally managed to hear some of the audio and it seems people got many things mixed up. Not anything big but more on the lines of who said what and stuff like that.

Not sure if anybody is interested in translations/clarifications though.

• Like it wasn't Kyo who asked SJK why he was at the clothing stores, it was PKL... then YAI teased him saying it was a dangerous question and should SJK really answer the question. (* he was hinting that SJK might have been shopping for a woman during that time).
• Kyo said that YAI and she always meet when they're drunk or about to drink and it was awkward to meet him during the fan-meeting while they were sober (*fans said that YAI said this but nope it was Kyo).
• Kyo said that SJK and her meeting story could be perceived to be a romantic story because the day when the drama staff called her that they were meeting up with SJK was 14th February ( V day) and they told her that it wasn't necessary for her to come. She said she went because she didn't want them to think that she was meeting up with someone (i.e. the drama staff might have thought she had plans for that day with a boyfriend/date because it was V day). This makes one thing very clear - SJK and Kyo were both single before they started to shoot the drama, otherwise it would make no sense for the drama staff to meet on that day with their stars. Which means fans of other actors/actresses can stop with their crazy shipping.
• Kyo said that she couldn't drink but she started to drink soju after spending time with SJK. So PKL said didn't you say YAI and you meet while drinking?. So Kyo replied that when meeting with YAI it was champagne. So PKL said SJK is your soju friend and YAI is your champagne friend.... SJK said that YAI would develop a taste for soju (*hard liquor) once he goes to the army (*meaning that he would experience more hardships?... I guess).
• YAI said that there were many fans in the crowd supporting SS couple but if he had to then he would want Kyo to play a role of a woman who was obsessively pursuing him.

there are more clarifications....will share them later if people are interested, though I doubt that they are.

• Kyo said that she and those two best friends who came to the fan-meeting all had a crush on the same guy.
• One of the friend said that she used to be extremely jealous of Kyo's beauty.
• SJK said that he had been eager to hear Kyo sing then Kyo said that she sang lower during his fan-meeting so that he would sound better (*also didn't know lyrics) and SJK seemed to be amazed that she had gotten so much better at singing since last time. Kyo said that her friend asked her if she would be singing for the fan-meetings and Kyo told her that she wouldn't, her friend said that's probably a good idea (*meaning her friend's don't think she's a good singer).