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  1. Does YoonA smoke?

     

     

     

    Of course that's a rhetorical question since there are no known genuine pics of her smoking.

     

    But I've seen packets of cigarettes beside her at tables she was sitting at, literally at her hand's reach. Whether they belonged to her or not I'm not sure.

     

    I'm curious because of this.

     

    https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/07/aoas-seolhyun-embroiled-in-thai-cigarette-disturbance-rumors

     

    https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/07/reporter-says-aoas-seolhyun-is-not-celebrity-in-thai-cigarette-disturbance-rumors

     

    The reporter is basically describing her without explicitly mentioning her.

     

    She ticks all the boxes:

     

    • Known for her innocent image
    • Have an innocent style
    • Shot CF in Thailand
    • Total top star

     

    Apart from the "swearing" and "this particular B communicates with her chin. The kind members in her group are her personal errand runners."

     

    But you never really know.

     

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  2. I always think how much it must be killing her that she'll never be able to guest on any of his programs, ever. Whether ones he leads or ones he regularly guests on (that probably goes for the other members too), yet the biggest names, people she knows, and other mutual acquaintances will do so lol.

     

    That would still stand even if they were together or were to get married. I think dating with someone who's in the same line of work as you and is in the public eye all the time is not such a great idea from a working and relationship standpoint unless you can keep it hush hush. Once it goes public you have to be willing to endure everything that comes with it. They've experienced it first hand, they know how it is.

     

    If it goes wrong, it will backfire on you horribly, and possibly, it will affect the rest of your career/life. We've had various examples of this in the past few years.

     

    LSG is considered the heir to KHD and YJS. He's been in the industry for a very long time. His rep and cred are unparalleled.

     

    He's the one most PD's think about and approach; Jipsabu, Produce 48, Busted!, Little Forest, Friday Joy Package, Twogether, Hometown Flex, Sing Again.

     

    You take Knowing Brothers and Running Man out of the equation, which don't draw huge crowds (and they won't go on forever), and you're relegated to guesting on other programs or doing your own minor shows.

     

    Moral of the story: It's not a very good idea to be on not-so-good-terms with him, or on-not-any-terms at all.

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  3. I feel like this needs to be said because some people still automatically assume that the members know literally everything about each other, which couldn't be further from the truth.

     

    This is a group that went from 9, to 8, to then 5 members. They like to act like they're super close, but are they? Don't think they are anymore.

     

    We had the biggest of examples when Yuri teased YoonA on Channel SNSD's first episode in July by mentioning his name and they had already broken up, unbeknownst (?) to her.

     

    And they still kept doing that in 2017 before his discharge. Figure that.

     

    When the KB episode aired, people started assuming things based on the members reactions.

     

    "Oh they're smiling and laughing, I can tell there's no bad blood between them."

     

    They laughed because Heechul's pun was highly amusing and hilarious. It's something that invoked laughter.

     

    After that, and after Soo-geun pretty much implied what was evident to all (i.e. YoonA being the biggest liar of all) they all got serious and anxious, the air and vibe got cold, because they all knew he had just owned YoonA badly and had no ground to stand on.

     

    Same thing when YoonA was smiling and laughing at his speech at AAA.

     

    It means absolutely nothing. it's all appearances.

     

    We know how they really feel. We know the whole story now.

     

    Get this:

     

    The members are not going to intrude or pry into each others private lives. This was made evident when Yuri said she wouldn't know how to go about it on Radio Star (when discussing the other members dating), when Sunny asked YoonA if there was something she wasn't telling her on her radio show, and when Leeteuk said on Radio Star that the two of them dating is something that is about the two of them.

     

    They're merely made aware if one or the other is dating and who, that is all.

     

    No matter how close one may be to you, your life is your life. It belongs to you and to you only. Nor YoonA nor LSG are the type of people that are going to go around telling others if they're dating and the current happenings in their personal relationships (is anyone like that?), which is why they kept putting up the "dating happily" act.

     

    The main topic of conversation has always been her, her public image, her shady behavior with other guys, and her lies.

     

    This is someone who goes from:

     

    "I really like him"

    "I always thought he was just saying it on the broadcast"

    "He never portrayed direct interest in me at the time"

     

    to:

     

    "I didn't know it then, your heart."

    "I didn't know it then, it was love."

    "I didn't realize how love looked like."

     

    All this while she was probably dating others. Ridiculous.

     

    To conclude, I don't think LSG would've ever bothered confessing to YoonA if he wasn't sure that YoonA liked him, and even with such reassurance, he still waited years to do so.

     

    And yet, look how it turned out; in a puff of smoke.

     

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  4. I had never read this and the comments. lol those who are in denial and those who acknowledge that it's them.

     

    http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2015/02/rumor-mill-top-male-idol-group-member.html

     

    2. C and D are currently in a public relationship but have been spotted with some suspicious behavior after a recent bout of rumors surfaced claiming that they broke up. As they say, there's no smoke without fire, and their overly sensitive reaction to the rumors has people thinking that the rumors might just have some weight to them. C has already banned questions about his relationship being asked in public and D, when asked about C, overreacts to any talk about C. Their agencies have tried to put out some damage control by saying they're still dating happily, so perhaps the rumors were just a momentary rut in their relationship.

     

    Not Yoona and Seungi...just about two weeks ago he confirmed they were still together.

     

    You can't really trust Lee Seung Gi's word. If they indeed broke up ofcourse he will not tell the public as much as possible.

     

    Lee Seung Gi is human being..lol..He is a good person,yes but don't tell he never lie..I'm not also saying it's them or hoping it's them. I'm just replying to someone who said it's not them just because Lee Seung Gi said that they still together..let's say they indeed broke up,do you think Lee Seung Gi will say that they broke up if he will ask by reporters?In the middle of promoting his movie?

     

    It screamed Yoona and Lee Seung Gi. Those rumors have been going around for a while.

     

    it's not, like other person said here, about two weeks ago Seung Gi talked about Yoona and he said that they were still together. I don't think it's Yoona and LSG

     

    It's obviously Yoona-Seunggi lmao
    there were tons of rumors of them breaking up
    Seunggi had to even admit he was dating happily
    there are a RickRoll'D ton of articles claiming they're happy
    yoona reacts wittily to questions about seunggi

     

    I feel that it's Yoona and Lee Seunggi because they always get asked about each other and they try to avoid them?

     

    Stop saying C and D and Yoona and Seungi You dont know that. Let them be happy. Just because Seunggi avoids talking about the relationship doesn't mean its them. And there are no rumors of them breaking up.

     

    My guess:
    2: Lee Seunggi & Yoona

     

    "overly sensitive reaction to the rumors has people thinking that the rumors might just have some weight to them. C has already banned questions about his relationship being asked in public and D, when asked about C, overreacts to any talk about C."

    Hmm Idk it just sound like Seunggi and Yoona, but then this is just my guess.

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  5. Looking at Sang-min's face and most of all him agreeing with Soo-geun despite being completely clueless and not knowing why always cracks me up haha.

     

     

    https://www.aconsciousrethink.com/12186/push-pull-relationship/

     

    A little bit of push and pull is common in a relationship.

     

    But it can define the entire relationship dynamic if it’s allowed to get out of control.

     

    The psychology of a push-pull relationship is interesting. Both parties are seemingly unaware of their own behaviors that drive the cycle.

     

    They continue to bounce back and forth between short periods of apparent peace, love, and harmony, and longer periods of discontent and friction.

     

    This article will explore this dynamic and provide some advice on how to reduce the negative impact it has on current and future relationships.

    Who Is Involved In A Push-Pull Relationship?

    For the cycle to last, two types of people need to become partners.

     

    If only one of these types is present, and the second person in the relationship has a healthier attachment style, things tend not to last long.

     

    But when both of the following people come together, push-pull syndrome becomes a problem.

     

    Person A

    – Has a conscious fear of intimacy and an unconscious fear of abandonment.

    – Has low self-esteem and so pursues romantic interests in order to feel worthy and lovable.

    – Dislikes feeling suffocated by a relationship.

     

    Person B

    – Has a conscious fear of abandonment and an unconscious fear of intimacy.

    – Has low self-esteem and so likes to be pursued in order to feel wanted and loved.

    – Dislikes feeling insecure about a relationship.

     

    How Does The Push-Pull Cycle Go?

    The entire dynamic can be present from the very beginning of a relationship, although the cycles may start out taking a long time before growing shorter.

     

    Stage 1 – The Pursuit

    At first, person A’s low self-esteem will override their fear of intimacy and lead them to identify and pursue someone they are attracted to.

     

    They may put on the charm, provide lots of attention, and buy lavish gifts.

     

    Person B may initially play hard to get because their fear of abandonment means they are often reluctant to enter a relationship and make themselves vulnerable.

     

    But their low self-esteem means they are eventually won over by the attention of person A. That attention makes them feel good about themselves.

     

    Stage 2 – Bliss

    For a while, the relationship seems to go well. Both person A and person B enjoy the excitement.

     

    They spend increasing amounts of time together. They may become physically intimate.

     

    The enjoyment they share is fairly superficial with few, if any, deep conversations.

     

    Stage 3 – Withdrawal

    After a while, person A will begin to feel overwhelmed by the relationship. They fear the intimacy that has begun to build.

     

    They will want to escape it – or reduce the intensity, at least.

     

    So they might become distant. They close themselves off physically and emotionally.

     

    Stage 4 – Repelling

    Have you ever taken two magnets and pointed the ends of the same polarity at each other?

     

    One repels the other. It pushes it away.

     

    This is a good analogy of what happens in this stage.

     

    Person B, driven by their fear of abandonment, will now become the pursuer.

     

    They will seek out the company and attention of person A.

     

    But person A has the opposite wish – they just want to be by themselves.

     

    So person A will feel more smothered and try to withdraw further.

     

    This is just like one magnet repelling the other as it tries to get too close.

     

    To person A, person B might come across as needy. They might feel criticized or nagged.

     

    Stage 5 – Distancing

    Eventually, person B will stop pursuing person A.

     

    They do this to protect themselves. They consciously fear abandonment, but in the event that the relationship were to end, they want to minimize the hurt they feel.

     

    Stage 6 – Reconciliation

    At this point, person A gets the space they seek. The intimacy in the relationship has severely reduced.

     

    It is now that person A’s unconscious fear of abandonment makes them look favorably at the relationship again. They see it as a better choice than being single.

     

    Person A begins to pursue person B again. They may extend an olive branch of peace, shower person B with gifts and apologies, or do other things to win them round.

     

    Person B, whilst initially reluctant, still wants to feel loved and wanted and so they begin to let person A back in.

     

    They certainly see a breakup as a far less desirable option.

     

    Stage 7 – Harmony

    The relationship returns to a period of relative peace and happiness.

     

    Person A is satisfied that the relationship didn’t get too deep or serious.

     

    Person B is satisfied that the relationship didn’t end full stop.

     

    As you might notice, stages 1 and 2 are very similar to stages 6 and 7. Essentially, they are the same, but stages 1 and 2 relate to a new relationship.

     

    Once the cycle has completed the first time, stages 6 and 7 replace stages 1 and 2 so that the whole thing goes like this:

     

    Stage 6 -> Stage 7 -> Stage 3 -> Stage 4 -> Stage 5 -> Stage 6 -> and so on.

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  6. I know he tried to be reassuring when in "And Goodbye" he says:

     

    "Wherever you are in the world, I can find you"

     

    Err.. you live next to each other lol.

     

    Like a comment that day said:

     

    "I bet it's just an excuse (obviously). They live 5 minutes away from each other and they can't even spare 10 minutes for each other? If I liked/loved someone I would cross the ocean for them."

     

    There was also another comment that said something along the lines of:

     

    "I'm glad "And Goodbye" is not for her (lol) otherwise it'd be disrespectful to his future girlfriend/wife"

     

    Which is kind of true since he says "only you and no one else will hear these words". But in that case he'll just backtrack.

     

    All in all this is a really messed up and unhealthy relationship.

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  7.  

     

    LHJ: Yes. I'll be in a drama with Seunggi~ I was telling him when we act we wear a character's mask so it's easier to portray, but variety felt nerve-wracking...

    LHJ: Seunggi advised that variety is acting too~ just think you're taking on a character.

     

    On 7/23/2020 at 11:52 AM, incoty said:

    LSG and YoonA themselves kept putting up an act for months.

     

    You can be good actors and be good at putting on facades (they aren't really), but when people start seeing right through it and you're forced to admit the truth, that's where you lose all credibility. People won't take you seriously any longer, and you'll turn into a laughing stock.

     

    Which is essentially what happened to YoonA, despite the useless coverups and damage control.

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