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Ending was worse than I thought it would be.

 

So Yong turned out be a hypocrite. She's just like Hwa Jin. Now, she's pretending to be So Bong and taking all the credits.

Cheol Jong is same as Byeong In. At least Byeong In has an excuse of not getting to meet the queen often, but Cheol Jong has no such excuse. Cheol Jong just loved the shell. Is that what the extra episodes for? Cheol Jong already fell in love with So Yong's physical body before he met So Bong! Love at first sight, my a s s.

 

What kind of message is this?

 

Jang Bong Hwan tried so hard to survive and live on by accepting himself and circumstances. He faced obstacles and learned to fight and solve them. But it doesn't matter. Your relationship and happiness that you preciously built will be all taken away from you. You will be forgotten and someone else will take all of your credits.

 

Kim So Yong couldn't handle her life, so she took her own life. That's such a good idea because someone else will come and solve all your problems including your love life for you! Then you will magically come back to life and live happily ever after with no effort! You just have to pretend that it was all you who solved all the problems! This is such a happy ending!

 

Korea already has so many people who take their own lives. Korea doesn't need encouragement in a drama.

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EP 15

 

Every single time when the writer ruins a character, the writer uses that awful cheap flashbacks! This is ridiculous.

 

It looks like writer is going to replace Kim Jwa Geun with Kim Byeong In. Then why did writer made young Kim Byeong In save young Cheol Jong? And I can easily notice how So Bong never clearly explain anything to Byeong In (they barely talk to each other), and Byeong In doesn't visit So Bong much despite him being second lead. This leads to both Byeong In and So Bong having misinformation and misunderstanding. That's how writer could continue to make him as a villain. 

 

Even though Prince Yeong Phyeong was ruined with that stupid cheap flashback, I like the fact that he tried to persuade Jo Hwa Jin to come back to good side. He loves her enough to let what she did slide, but he's not fine with her staying evil. When she tried to talk herself as a victim again, he strongly retorted that she shouldn't think that way. I bet Prince Yeong Phyeong could let it slide because it mainly only affected Kim clan.

 

But I don't trust the writer, so I don't know what Prince Yeong Phyeong would do.

 

Anyway, so did So Yong's father die or what? Did the writer just kill off her father after the crime book plot was over? Did writer kill off her father, so that king doesn't have to worry about her father? I wouldn't be surprised if the writer actually did that.

 

Cheol Jong finding about the well secret is also kind of lackluster. I thought it would be stretched out longer with continuous hints of him being closer to the truth. Seriously? That easily? In one day? Two hints from So Bong and then another from Jo Hwa Jin, and that's it? Also, I thought Jo Hwa Jin had the book with her, not Cheol Jong? I remember her trying to erase So Yong's name in the book.

 

I loved So Bong's ramyeon innuendo with clueless Cheol Jong. I am disappointed that it had to end, especially with such a ridiculous figured out in one day lackluster truth.

 

So Bong's revenge was awesome. I especially liked the scene with Jo Hwa Jin because it was serious.

 

I'm glad Kim Hwan let go of Hong Yeon. It was sad, but heartwarming. I also liked the scene with Special Director Hong and him.

 

And I agree with Special Director Hong. If I was him, I would complain about my job too. Cheol Jong better give him a vacation after it's all over.

 

The preview is ridiculous with So Bong with a sword looking like So Bong is going to sword fight with Kim Jaw Geun. I hope it's a dream or just So Bong imagining it.

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28 minutes ago, Rae said:

I like the third end. I just don't want So Yong to be reward for trying to kill herself.. plus I dont think the King will be happy with So Yong.

 

Yes, that's a good point. Rewarding So Yong for killing herself is not a good storytelling. 

I liked when Bong Hwan was talking to himself at the lake, "So Yong, since you gave up midway, and i continue with this life, I will survive and live on." I like that life advice better. 

So Yong and Bong Hwan both faced their death, but unlike So Yong, Bong Hwan disparately wanted to live. Therefore, Bong Hwan got another chance, and he lived on to have loving relationship with Cheol Jong that So Yong wished she had.

It's not like Bong Hwan had easy life, he also faced multiple dangers, but he didn't give up like she did. That's how he gained Cheol Jong's heart.

 

22 minutes ago, cdcotr said:

So I guess he has to find a way to cut ties with his body and give up clearing his name if he wants to stay with CJ...

 

It could have been shaman who made Bong Hwan go back. Just that the timing was very unfortunate or lucky (the body probably would have died right away if his soul wasn't in the body).

Bong Hwan's soul could have already attached to So Yong's body, so unlike returning back to modern era, Bong Hwan could easily returned back to Josean era without shaman's help. 

Bong Hwan's body seems to be "alive" through modern technology, so it was possible for him to go back to modern era.

If his body dies, I don't think he can return back home. 

If he dies in So Yong's body, Bong Hwan will probably also die unless his soul goes back to his body the moment So Yong's body is killed.

 

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40 minutes ago, aisling said:

@louisawatson Go Princess Go (the original Chinese series) was hilarious and even more outrageous than Mr Queen. It was also labelled as comedy and it ended really tragically. They reportedly filmed three alternative endings and all of them were sad. That’s why I’m scared the same thing will happen to Mr Queen. You can’t have quite a happy ending when there’s a body lying in coma. Either they will die in Joseon and Bong Hwan will wake up from coma, or Bong Hwan will choose to live as Kim So Yong and will abandon his body in future. Either way there will be unsatisfied viewers.  But I still hope they writer will surprise us with mind-blowing ending!

 

Oh, the original all have sad endings. 

 

It would be awesome if kdrama makes satisficing ending, but if not, I want at least bittersweet alternate endings.

1) Like you said, Bong Hwan gives up his original timeline, but he's happy with Cheol Jong.

2) Or Cheol Jong successfully gains back his power as king, but Bong Hwan doesn't want to give up his original timeline, so despite them loving each other, Bong Hwan decides to go back, and Cheol Jong lets him go. Bong Hwan goes to museum to see better changed history, and meet modern Cheol Jong.

3) Or Bong Hwan decides to go back after their crown prince has grown up, and Cheol Jong decides to follow him to modern timeline. Somehow, it works. Now, Bong Hwan needs to help Cheol Jong get used to the modern era.

 

I like third option where Cheol Jong becomes successful king, and both Cheol Jong and Bong Hwan raise a child together, then later Bong Hwan gets to return back home, but together with Cheol Jong to be still happy together.

For this to work, Cheol Jong needs to completely know and still in love with identity of Bong Hwan. 

 

35 minutes ago, cdcotr said:

I had hopes in the early episodes for BI's character.  He refused to assume any positions and he seemed to want to find his own way and not rely on his father's status, maybe also he didn't want to be embroiled in his machinations.  Didn't he also go out of town during the marriage in a bid to ease his pain from SY entering the palace and becoming out of reach?

 

I thought he could be their ace in the hole, if he truly loved SY, and has some sense of justice, then he can work behind the scenes to help CJ and his crew bec it would all make SY's life safer and better...

 

Even when he started questioning things, getting the govt position, I thought it was a bit justifiable as he sought to protect SY. 

 

BUT he just escalated, getting close to the line and then crossing it and leaving it far behind... talking back to the King, being arrogant and condescending to a person who even his Father (head villain) pretends to respect in public, barging into the queen's room, touching her and hugging her, colluding with the grand dowager queen, going behind his father, etc...

 

It will be hard now to walk his character back to the "light" but it might still be possible with some work, as I don't think he has done anything as irredeemable as HJ giving that log book to the dowager queen and aiming an arrow at the queen. Correct me if I'm wrong...

 

Is his love going to be bigger than his jealousy and anger at CJ? Or will he be consumed by this as HJ has?

 

This! He could have been a good ally. BUT he just escalated! 

 

Yeah, I agree, Kim Byeong In didn't do anything irredeemable like Haw Jin had done with the book, so i still hope for him becoming an ally. 

 

But I believe going behind his father is a good trait since his father is a villain. He just thought grand queen dowager would care more about So Bong if he becomes helpful. After all, she is the part of royal family, not his father.

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1 hour ago, Rae said:

Why does everyone think you can pop out So Bong/Bong Hwan and have So Yong come back and everyone's is happy. If that case let's ask identical twins If they would be happy if husband or wife would be happy with their twin. You don't think the King would notice is tigress disappear. 

 

I know, right? It's so frustrating. They don't care about two male Main Leads' happiness at all. Using Bong Hwan as a tool to achieve So Yong's happiness, then Cheol Jong should be just happy to be with So Yong who he hardly knows at all?!

 

We never once saw conscious So Yong taking over the body. The only time we actually see So Yong's soul is when drama literally shows So Yong's soul drowning until she disappeared into the bottom of the lake.

 

28 minutes ago, Ni Wen said:

My worst possible ending: BH wakes up from coma and that whole Joseon events was nothing but a bad dream.

 

Something like the ending of Lovers in Paris.

I would burn the writer's office if this really happened. IT BETTER NOT!

 

Oh my god, I hate dream ending so much! What's the purpose of drama if it's all freaking dream?!

Lovers in Paris had that ending? I stopped watching after male second lead faked amnesia. I thought that was the ending, the main leads together.

 

1 hour ago, cenching said:

My worst ending will be:

CheolJong Darling ends up dead, SoYong dead, JBH goes back to his body and cry cry cry.

 

add.

Another time travel or parallel universe drama that I despises because of the ending is Signal. I hate open ending.

 

Doesn't Mr Queen original have a happy ending? I would scream if the writer purposely makes it sad ending despite this whole drama being fantasy comedy genre. Sane people wouldn't be mad if writer changed the history because it's fantasy genre.

 

I really hated Signal ending. Signal is not even open ending. It's freaking same as dream ending! Almost everything the characters have done so far have been completely erased. All those achievements that present timeline Main Leads have accomplished disappeared into thin air. Even present timeline character relationships with minor characters have all been reset. For what?! We don't even get to see three Main Leads meet! 

 

2 hours ago, aisling said:

So Yong and Bong Hwan are actually two different souls and in the last episode So Yong returns to her body. She doesn’t feel bad about someone else winning Cheoljong’s love for her. Cheoljong despite his intelligence won’t recognise that it’s not Bong Hwan anymore. Bong Hwan wakes up from a coma and continue to chase women and never thinks about Cheoljong again.

 

LMAO if they give us this ending, I’m gonna blocklist this PD and writer forever.

 

Wow, yup, i agree that's worst ending for Mr Queen. 

That's throwing away whole character developments for all the characters. Three of them all becoming shallow characters.

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10 hours ago, Dramanoona said:

I think it is difficult to recharacterise Hwa Jin because her whole story began on a lie. 

She also played a part in the lie, being envious of So Yong when she was younger and wanted what So Yong had. 

She had the King's (CJ) affection because he thought about their shared past and due to family conflicts began his relationship with So Yong on a bad footing, believing that she was just like her family. 

Hwa Jin lost me when she said to So Bong that now she (So Bong) would know how she (Hwa Jin) feels after Dam Hyang was forced to take poison as her punishment. She knew how So Bong cherished the child and that was a low blow. (So Hwa Jin, sorry ....bye bye) 

I wished Byeong In had been better written but now he smells of Obsession (and not the Calvin Klein version) 

Hopefully there is some redemption for him (as he looks like he's eyeing the throne and So Bong/Yong along with it) 

 

Yeah, I know Jo Hwa Jin is far gone. That's why I only said i hope for writer to not further ruin Kim Byeong In and Prince Yeong Phyeong like the writer did with Jo Hwa Jin.

 

Jo Hwa Jin chose to ruin So Bong instead of helping Cheol Jong with crime book.

Kim Byeong In didn't choose that path yet. So far, he still choose So Bong over Cheol Jong, so I still have hope for him.

 

Writer uses so cheap way to ruin the characters. Instead of writing believable negative character development, the writer goes "Here are flashbacks that show that Jo Hwa Jin and Kim Byeong In were evil to begin with!" Then the characters suddenly start to act evil. There is not much deep emotion or negative arc, so the characters suddenly look foolish and just plain stock characters. Both Jo Hwa Jin and Kim Byeong In characters quickly lose their charms because of this.

 

Most viewers turned their backs on Jo Hwa Jin and Kim Byeong In characters after watching their evil flashbacks. Even if those two might not have many fans, two have been at least tolerable until the flashbacks happened.

 

Evil characters can be interesting and charming if they are well-written. Sadly, Jo Hwa Jin and Kim Byeong In are not well-written. I'm still mad with cheap evil flashback method. 

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I'm worried because it seems the writer is not really good with "Romantic Second Leads."

I feel like the only way the writer knows how to make Main Lead the better option is to make Second Lead awful.

 

When So Bong and Cheol Jong start to have relationship development, Jo Hwa Jin characterization went downhill.

She was first portrayed to be controlled, thoughtful, and kind but not soft woman. She might have faults, but I was hoping her to become an ally and have happy poly relationship together since both So Bong and Cheol Jong liked her.

It was unnecessary to make her a jealous foolish villain. She could be an ally who spy on queen dowager Jo. She can have her own struggle and politics battle with queen dowager Jo while So Bong has own politics battle with grand queen dowager Kim.

There are already too many villains. What's the point of her becoming a idiotic puppet villain?

 

Then we have Kim Byeong In. The moment Jo Hwa Jin finished becoming a villain and Main Leads romantic development blossomed, we suddenly get back to his only romantic flashback of kiss scene, and the writer completely ruins it.

Then writer processed to forget his romantic "I'm ok as long as you're happy." Kim Byeong In suddenly decides his feeling is more important than So Bong's.

It was unnecessary to make him jealous and possessive. So Bong could have clearly said to Kim Byeong In that the king trying to kill her issue was dealt with, so he doesn't need to worry about it. So Bong could go on and say "I'm fine with King now, so don't interfere between us anymore," instead of vague "just don't do anything."

After that, Kim Byeong In should have kept his characterization of "I'm ok as long as you're happy," and become an ally.

We already have his adopted father, Kim Jwa Guen, as a villain. Kim Byeong In doesn't need to inherit his father's villain position.

 

Main Leads easily win against romantic Second Leads because writer purposely ruin Second Leads' characterizations.

 

I'm also afraid of Prince Yeong Phyeong. Even though he isn't Second Leads like Jo Hwan Jin or Kim Byeong In, he is still somewhat romantic rival of Main Lead, Cheol Jong, despite king not knowing it. 

If writer continues with the same formula, either Yeong Phyeong will be used to showcase comparison between evil Jo Hwa Jin and good So Bong (this is given at this point) or/and his characterization will also be ruined to showcase how great and desirable Main Lead Cheol Jong is. (same fate as Kim Byeong In)

 

I'm really hoping i'm wrong about this. I really hope writer can write better than this.

Writer please, Kim Byeong In and Prince Yeong Phyeong could be allies and stay as allies to Cheol Jong and So Bong. Make it happen!

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5 hours ago, maria_m2me said:

So I have something weird about this Prince YP, maybe he will do something bad to our Queen, indirect hurt his own brother because of his love to concubine.

 

When I saw EP14, I felt the opposite. We get a scene where Prince Yeong Phyeong feels something off about queen having the crime book. The expression is of something wrong. It's like he's having a thought that someone purposely put a trap for the queen. Even though drama didn't show the flashback, i'm hoping he was remembering Jo Hwa Jin trying to give him a book, but didn't in the end.

 

Prince Yeong Phyeong is a strict moral code guy who possibly could be more passionate about king gaining back his power for the nation than king Cheol Jong himself. He probably will be disappointed and feel betrayed if he finds out about what Jo Hwa Jin has done. I mean he will emotionally struggle, but it's more likely that he will expose Jo Hwa Jin than hurt his half-brother, who is technically Prince Yeong Phyeong's life goal (making Cheol Jong into a great king).

 

I have seen Prince Yeong Phyeong empathizing with Jo Hwa Jin a lot, but when it comes to the queen So Bong, it's all about business. He is worried about So Bong being a clever enemy who is tricking Cheol Jong.  He is desperate and paranoid that So Bong will ruin all their plans to gain back king's power. Even though he's frustrating, he's being practical and it's very understandable situation for him with his disadvantages, especially since it's hard to change your mind when you hardly interact with queen yourself. 

 

3 hours ago, cenching said:

Btw, do you think that Prince YeongPyeong is a traitor in the making??? He hates SoBong with passion and loves HwaJin with equal passion.

 

He didn’t inform CheolJong that SoBong is in danger from Kim Clan. He has never approved of CheolJong’s love for SoBong despite SoBong had proven herself over and over again that she’s on CheolJong’s side. 
 

Now that CheolJong’s openly loving SoBong and what My Queen wants, My Queen gets attitude, he must be burning with angers inside. Not to mention CheolJong has been neglecting HwaJin and never consummated their marriage. I suspect HwaJin must had said something during CheolJong mummy stage because he started to gives her cold shoulder after that.

 

Not really, EP 14 actually showed the opposite. Besides, he never hated So Bong with passion. I'm not sure if he loves Hwa Jin with passion either. Definitely nothing compared to Kim Byeong In.

 

From his perspective, he's being practical and pessimistic when it comes to queen. Cheol Jong was extremely lucky that it was So Yong and Bong Hwan who became the queen. I mean when it comes to Bong Hwan, Prince Yeong Phyeong is half right. Most Kim clan are evil and do wrongdoing all the times. They literally killed his family. Prince Yeong Phyeong and Cheol Jong were lucky to survive. It makes sense for him to think that Kim clan would have put their ally in the queen position. It's pretty logical to think that queen could be acting kind and sweet trying to steal Cheol Jong's heart to control him.

 

If Jo Hwa Jin actually thinks like Prince Yeong Phyeong, she probably wouldn't be queen dowager Jo's puppet right now.

 

Prince Yeong Phyeong did inform Cheol Jong that So Bong is in danger. The nurse lady didn't magically figured out king's secret training ground. Prince Yeong Phyeong said "it could be a trap, so we shouldn't tell him right away." Like always, he's being practical and pessimistic. It's obvious that he made sure it wasn't trap by meeting the spy, blind nurse palace lady. Prince Yeong Phyeong will always choose Cheol Jong's safety over So Bong's. To be honest, I won't blame him for it. He's literally king's royal bodyguard. He's doing his job.

 

When Prince Yeong Pyeong was most emotional and angry, it was when he thought Cheol Jong was being swayed by evil So Bong. Prince Yeong Phyeong was more angry at the fact that queen will control the king and ruin their plan than king loving the queen instead of Jo Hwa Jin. Sure, he was upset about Jo Hwa Jin being neglected and empathized with her. However, I never saw Prince Yeong Phyeong being mad at Cheol Jong for not sleeping with Jo Hwa Jin. Prince Yeong Phyeong was more focused on the crime book than Jo Hwa Jin.

 

Most importantly, just like Cheol Jong, Prince Yeong Phyeong never deeply talks about their plans to Jo Hwa Jin. He didn't tell her exactly what Cheol Jong was doing in queen's home (finding crime book), even though he knew how much Jo Hwa Jin was upset and worried about it. That alone shows me what is more important to Prince Yeong Phyeong.

 

I don't know which person Prince Yeong Phyeong likes more. Cheol Jong or Jo Hwa Jin?

But i believe Prince Yeong Phyeong's top priority is neither of them.

His top priority is creating a powerful king who cares for his people and nation. 

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55 minutes ago, skinnyjeans said:

I just finished watched the ep 14 with the subtitle.

I like the whole scenes in episode 14. 

Even though the 'hot night' scenes not that much, but I should say it's beautiful.

CJ was carried away by SB's saying. He was going wild! It was SB who took off CJ's clothes tho. haha

 

I have been also intrigued how people will perceive this identity crisis of SB.

A man soul who trapped in woman's body falls in love with a man.

I actually will be sad if Jang Bong Hwan back to the original body.

I meant, SB starts to love CJ here, even though she has a male soul but it's love! And CJ loves SB as well, can  we just have happy ending here, entertain us please writer-nimmmm!! 

 

Btw, just want to remind  you guys how hilarious when SB tried to describe that hot night with the King 

 

Yeah, i would be sad if Bong Hwan returns to his original body.

I'm not that fond of So Yong because I hardly know her, but I am fond of Bong Hwan, the protagonist.

Just imagining So Yong taking all the credits and rewards at the end makes my blood boil. 

It's not like Bong Hwan took over the body while So Yong was alive. She gave up, and Bong Hwan took over the body she left behind.

 

Also, the drama made sure to point out that So Bong (Bong Hwan) is no longer heterosexual, and shows hints of him quickly accepting being bisexual.

 

I don't read Korean comments because when I read in the earlier episodes, they are so focused on wanting So Yong to have a happy ending to the point that I literally saw popular theory that Bong Hwan already left her body (stuck in his body in hospital), and current queen is actually So Yong with Bong Hwan memories. 

 

I am like WHAT? How can they throw away the protagonist that fast for a minor character? Yeah, she is a minor character. A ghost character who only appears in flashbacks. 

 

Why are they so obsessed with So Yong and her happy ending with Cheol Jong? Only focusing on the fact that she loved him. Cheol Jong didn't love her though!

 

To be honest, majority of korean viewers seem to be not ready for this. They want a heterosexual female character and heterosexual male character couple. I can see them trying so hard to exclude Bong Hwan in the relationship.

 

I stopped reading korean comments after reading that ridiculous theory of throwing Jang Bong Hwan, the protagonist, out the window. 

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EP 14

 

Huh, when drama showed blind lady writing, it began with "queen," but when they showed the whole sentence, it began with "danger." I think the words even got messier when it was shown in full sentence.

 

I'm glad So Bong did see Cheol Jong during the act, even if s/he dismissed it. So Bong even pointed out later that s/he would have still liked it even if s/he knew it was Cheol Jong. Also, in preview, So Bong seems to quickly accept it and want to sleep with Cheol Jong again.

 

I believe the queen's body is only possessed by Jang Bong Hwan's soul, but the soul is adopting to So Yong's body, especially after her memories have returned, so that the soul would not be repelled from the body. In a sense, by accepting So Yong's physical body and memories, the soul has become bisexual and already comfortable with female physical body. It's fantasy, so I guess that works. S/he did really become "Jang So Yong."

 

I'm hoping Hong Yeon get rejected. I want the drama to show that both man and woman can get their feelings rejected. After all, Kim Hwan and Hong Yeon fell in love for exact same reason. The looks and small kindness. 

 

I think the bromance between Kim Hwan and Special Director Hong might win this love triangle. I mean they are minor characters, so I don't know if it will end as bromance or romance. These days, kdrama is ok as long as they are minor characters. That's why I'm happy about So Bong. S/he is technically trans bisexual at this point, and s/he is main character, the protagonist!

 

Prince Yeong Phyeong finally seems to figure out that something is up when he heard that the crime book was suspiciously found in queen's palace! Please let him find out about Jo Hwa Jin. One thing I am sure about Prince Yeong Phyeong is his stubborn strict moral code. I think that's why, unlike Kim Byeong In, he never crosses the line with Jo Hwa Jin. He is so frustrating because of that moral code, but i have to admit that it's pretty good moral code. That means i can count on Prince Yeong Phyeong to go against Jo Hwa Jin the moment he figured out that she crossed the line from his moral code. Sure, he will probably try to sway her first or want to hear the lies, but ultimately he will go against her.

 

In preview, Kim Byeong In figured out that Kim Jwa Geun tried to kill So Bong, and drama pointed out that Kim Byeong In is supposed to be very smart man, so he should figure out that grand queen dowager agreed with the plan. Please, let Kim Byeong In be at least a grudging ally!

 

There are so many enemies to fight. I really can't see King's allies winning unless they gain more allies like Kim Byeong In and Kim Hwan who also work in palace. Kim Hwan also seems to be talented, both intelligent (booksmart) and martial arts if the hints in the drama are correct. Kim Hwan said that he got into Joseon version top college at very young age, and he easily dodged trained palace bodyguards, only to be stopped by Cheol Jong.

 

I knew that lie signal is going to come back again! I hope Kim Byeong In helped with this plan. I don't think Cheol Jong could figure out a way to switch the poison that the young girl was supposed to drink. However, Kim Byeong In, who was in change, can easily switch it. It's obvious from Kim Byeong In's reaction toward So Bong that he also knows that young girl is innocent.

 

I'm still holding onto that young Kim Byeong In who helped young Cheol Jong to escape from the well. There is no point of adding him to that flashback when it could have easily been just So Yong rescuing Cheol Jong. The only reason to add Kim Byeong In is to foreshadow that he's going to be an ally.

 

At this point, So Yong is literally plot device for every characters. Jang Bong Hwan, Cheol Jong, Kim Byeong In, Jo Hwa Jin, and etc. From all the characters we have met, the least we know about is So Yong. She only appears as plot device for other characters. Her flashbacks are there to motivate and influence other characters, and now even her memories are no longer hers, but So Bong's, so that it will motivate and grow So Bong as a person.

 

Anyway, I can't wait for next week episodes! Please let there be more scene with So Bong and Cheol Jong together! Preview hints on some hot scenes including the scene where So Bong trying to sleep with Cheol Jong again, "do you want to eat ramen?" 

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@shiqin3381 According to the preview text, king and queen did it, so kdrama followed chinese plot, but at least two do have feelings for each other while chinese didn't at the time. Little bit better, but not much.

 

Oh well.

 

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50 minutes ago, aisling said:

Why wasn’t this part translated? Is it because it was hard to read?

 

Yeah, I think it's too hard to translate. I have no idea what the words are.

It's definitely different from what we saw blind nurse lady was writing "the queen in danger," so it could be details of danger?

I think this one was purposely written more confusingly because it's spoilers. or it could be old korean words that i'm not familiar with. Maybe the old fashioned way they speak what time it is or maybe the palace name? 

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EP 13

 

I thought we need more ally, not enemy? I hope Kim Jwa Geun's plan to kill So Bong backfire on him, so Kim Byeong In will join as ally for So Bong's sake. Kim Jwa Geun wants to kill the queen because he knows it will destroy both king and Kim Byeong In's will. Then Kim Byeong In won't work for grand queen dowager without So Bong. However, if Kim Byeong In finds out that both Kim Jwa Geun and grand queen dowager attempted to kill So Bong, then he would no longer trust them, which means he will work alone at the least.

 

I just don't want either Kim Byeong In or Prince Yeong Phyeong to become male version of Jo Hwa Jin. One is ridiculous enough. i don't want three.

 

I'm pretty sure now that the drama is trying to tell the viewers that queen's body is only possessed by Jang Bong Hwan's soul while So Yong's soul is trapped? in the lake. I guess the whole lake ghost story holds some truth. However, So Bong crossed out Jang Bong Hwan's name, which means So Bong decided to live/survive as queen. I'm glad the drama made it clear. So Bong (Jang Bong Hwan) clearly said out loud "So Yong, since you quit midway, and I continue with this life. I'm going to survive." Drama even showed So Yong's soul drowning while So Bong (Jang Bong Hwan's soul) getting out of the lake.

 

I'm glad So Bong finally got to reject Kim Byeong In's feeling. That signals the true start of So Bong and Cheol Jong's relationship. I also like that drama didn't continue stalling Kim Hwan's confession and rejection. Please don't make this another rejected Kim Hwan going down the evil path. I'm hoping Kim Hwan will accept it quickly despite being upset, and he will remind Kim Byeong In of "I'm ok as long as So Yong is happy."

 

So the blind nurse lady is not deaf? She is also a spy. Since she's blind, she kind of put a lot of spaces in her words, but I think she wrote "the queen in danger." The blue clothes means King's bodyguard, so either Prince Yeong Phyeong or Special Director Hong. I'm hoping it's Special Director Hong. He seems to care more about Cheol Jong's well-being than a missing crime book. He could be the encouraging type, opposite to Prince Yeong Phyeong's discouraging type regarding king's love for So Bong. I mean Special Director Hong also seems to genuinely like Kim Hwan, so he might understand Cheol Jong's feeling.

 

I'm happy that Cheol Jong figured out that it was So Bong who helped him with the cooking! He must have ran to her palace when he figured it out, and drunk So Bong must thought Cheol Jong was Hong Yeon. So... did they do it? I guess they really need to figure out a way to get So Bong pregnant if drama is planning to go with that route. However, I hope they didn't do it. This wasn't them both being drunk, only So Bong was drunk and even thought Cheol Jong was Hong Yeon, so I wouldn't be comfortable with that.

 

Anyway, I was kind of disappointed with how missing crime book plot was resolved. It was big plot device that can erupt both chaos and order. I thought it will be resolved with big revelation near the end of the drama. Then again, that book that grand queen dowager found might be a copy.

 

I can't wait for the next episode! We're going to get to see Cheol Jong's desperate heartfelt scene! I wonder if Jang Bong Hwan will get to go back to modern era again? The preview showed another "monk" with queen dowager, so it might happen again. 

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Jo Hwa Jin's part is ridiculous at this point. Come on, even if she shoot the queen by accident, she should have lost her position as concubine and leave the palace as a felon.

 

Food looked so delicious, especially the dessert! I like how drama put cooking part as plot device, so it's not out of nowhere.

 

That explosion was out of nowhere. I wonder who did it? Kim Jwa Guen or queen dowager Jo?

 

I have noticed that Kim Jwa Geun never order dirty work to Kim Byeong In. It could be because he's the heir, but Kim Jwa Geun doesn't even mention his dirty plan to Kim Byeong In. Kim Byeon In has no idea about the food ruining dirty work. I wonder it's because Kim Jwa Geun knows that Kim Byeong In would not like the outright dirty plan.

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I'm ok with politics. Romance dramas always have something going on to make the romance interesting. Palace politics itself are plot to thicken the romance. The whole emotional tensions, conflicts, and misunderstandings that we enjoy seeing from this romance drama came from this palace politics. Kind of like Romeo and Juliet. That's romance, but we have this rivalry family thing to make the romance more interesting.

 

Anyway, I understand Byeong In being angry at Cheol Jong. He tried to kill So Bong after all. And So Bong told Byeong In that s/he didn't say anything because it might get worse for her. S/he didn't say s/he forgive the king to Byeong In, so as far as Byeong In knows, So Bong didn't forgive the king.

 

I hope So Bong later tells Byeong In that s/he forgives Cheol Jong. Byeong In will not like it, but hopefully he will accept it and move on. I'm still holding on to his personality at the beginning of drama when he said he's ok as long as So Yong is happy. 

 

Now, I'm kind of sad because Byeong In still thinks So Bong is So Yong, especially now that s/he even possess So Yong's traits. Unlike Cheol Jong, Byeong In definitely fell in love with So Yong. He didn't even get to spend much time with So Bong, so he hardly knows So Bong. He still thinks of the queen as So Yong who sometimes acts funny because of lake incident. I'm curious if So Bong will ever remember their kiss. I'm pretty sure if Byeong In mentions it, s/he will remember it.

 

Hwa Jin is out of her mind at this point. Hwa Jin seems to be only good at acting kind in front of Cheol Jong. Well, she's been doing that for 8 years, so I'm not surprised. That palace lady that saw her with the real arrow is going to come back and bite her. 

 

The one that sold Hwa Jin's accessory is So Bong's palace lady, right? I wonder if there is going to be misunderstanding that queen killed Hwa Jin's palace lady. But at the end, that palace lady will expose both queen dowgar/Jo clan and Kim Jwa Geun/Kim clan. 

 

By the way, I wonder what is the illness that Kim Jwa Geun's assassin has? I think Kim said something about it, but I can't remember. And I wonder what medicine it is. Kim Jwa Geun said that it's unfortunate that assassin has such an illness, and the assassin said that he's still alive thanks to the medicine that Kim Jwa Geun gives him.

 

I like So Bong's "therapy" session with the doctor where So Bong worries about confusing feeling for Cheol Jong and doctor advised the queen to "accept who you are" and So Bong seems to be somewhat accepting of that idea. The letter exchange is probably the first step to accept the feeling for Cheol Jong. When later s/he finds out that the letters were written by Cheol Jong, So Bong is more likely to accept that Cheol Jong is charming guy who can arise feelings since s/he was extremely happy during the letters exchange without knowing it was him. Of course, s/he won't likely to accept it right away, but it will be the first step, if it ever happens in this drama.

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5 hours ago, tazmin said:

I think regardless of how I rationalise it, the thought of the ending of So Yong coming back to her body and her and the King living happily ever after still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I fell in love with the Chef and King, not really So Yong and King. I understand that with conservative Korea, the writers are in a tough spot but still 

 

Yeah, I feel so uncomfortable because king actually fell in love with So Bong. He had no interest in So Yong whatsoever. So king loving So Bong is genuine, but if he ends up loving So Yong thinking she's So Bong (because she can act like one) is really upsetting. That's not that different from Oh My Ghost ending.

 

The traits that king likes about So Bong are Jang Bong Hwan's.

 

At the lake, when So Bong tries to act more like queen with So Yong traits, King felt weird out and kept telling So Bong to act natural (act like Jang Bong Hwan). So when So Bong left brashly with Bong Hwan traits, king smiled and said "that's my queen."

 

The dominant soul is Jang Bong Hwan. Sure, queen also had So Yong traits, but the most thought process happened by Jang Bong Hwan. At this point, Bong Hwan spent more time with king than So Yong ever did.

 

Also, king basically already started to have interest in So Bong even before So Yong traits came out.

 

If the drama really wants So Yong and king ending, then drama should have continously switch the dominant soul or two souls should have coexisted trying to dominate one another, and show that king prefers So Yong instead of Bong Hwan. Then I wouldn't have a problem with that ending.

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I wonder if drama will say it's actually parallel universe Joseon.

So Bong talked about it with that cute palace girl. It could be foreshadowing.

 

Then writer gets free pass if Bong Hwan returns modern era and finds out that his Joseon didn't change. Nothing changed.

 

It would also explain why some of historical facts are different. 

 

Since it's already body swap, time travel fantasy comedy, it wouldn't be surprising if it turned out to be parallel universe Joseon.

 

5 hours ago, Noor Hasliza Zakaria said:

Even in the drama they have two endings

 

Oh, they have two endings? Interesting. I wonder kdrama will also give us two endings.

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Read what I quoted. Somebody said king and queen might fake their death and live secretly, so I said "closest (to that idea) thing can happen is king abdicating, so that king and queen can live peacefully."

Because that's more in character than them faking their death.

Obviously, I was not seriously saying that's what will happen in the drama.

 

Moon Lovers didn't scream at viewers that it's fake and not related to history. Also, Hae Soo was still a palace lady. It's hard to be influential with that situation. Face masks to prince and prince's wife who hardly had influence at that time. Compare that to face mask to grand queen dowgar who controls the king. (Who is also related to Queen protagoinst)

The princes were not even interested while grand queen dowgar is so interested that she's trying to make sure other servants learn queen protagonist's recipes and whatnot. 

 

Viewers see a warning every single time that it's not historical related. They know it's fantasy comedy. Queen Protagoinst, from powerful clan, is already messing with modern ideas in Joseon era. It won't be that surprising if the history changes.

Drama trends are slow, but it does catch up. There are bunch of Korean novels that change history after modern era protagoinst travels back in time. 

Kdrama won't necessarily follow every single parts of original drama.

Also, the reason for taking real historical figures is because it's more impactful and easier to write a story based on popular well-known topic. 

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READ AFTER WATCHING EP10

 

The King definitely has more feeling toward So Bong than HwaJin.

 

HwaJin is kindhearted savior that puts comfort to him, but it was never big. All they have is that little past. Sure, very important, but still tiny moment compared to his whole life. Both King and HwaJin hardly know each other. Both only cling to that tiny moment in the past. King because that's the only comfort he had in his whole life. HwaJin because that's only moment when she won So Yong and gained someone who So Yong couldn't.

 

However, as King spent time together with So Bong, he became interested in So Bong's brash manner that doesn't hide any motivation. He learned that So Bong is kindhearted in her own way, and she can be in danger just like him. Slowly, king learned that they are not so different and perhaps he could trust her a little. He can let himself slip from his facade. It's okay if he's neither exactly a dumb king (for kim clan) nor iron-willed king (for rebels). It's okay for him to show his true self and vulnerable side. He tells her his true hurtful feeling. He can trust So Bong to keep the secret. He can let himself go in front of her.

 

Cheol Jong saw HwaJin when he needed someone to save him in the well. HwaJin is a savior to him. Someone the king is always grateful for. HwaJin knows this well since she actually said that's king's weakness to Prince Yeong Phyeong. 

However, that's where it ends. He can't open himself to her. She's a comfort, but he's not comfortable with her.

 

That's why only when king saw it's So Bong in the room that he hugged the queen, and didn't let go. So Bong is the greatest comfort to Cheol Jong because he's comfortable with the queen. He can express his vulnerable feeling to So Bong. The queen wouldn't use it against him (kim clan) or tell him to get hold of himself (rebels). So Bong will listen to him and comfort him, then keep the secret.

 

Anyway, I'm glad that King kind of admitted his feeling for So Bong when HwaJin asked if he has a feeling for the queen. He answered "I can't have a feeling for the queen." HwaJin retorted "You can't, not that you don't." (because of Kim clan)

 

After the nightmare, he again thinks about So Bong. There is no hints of HwaJin at all. The one that he trusts to keep the nightmare away is So Bong.

 

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Anyway, HwaJin is not dumb enough to wear queen's accessory outside. I wonder if she wore it in front of Prince Yeong Phyeong because she trusts him or she knew he doesn't have knowledge to point it out.

 

Well, at least I'm glad that the final point of her fully going against So Bong is because of her maid. I understand of her thinking the culprit is kim clan (because it is, even though that body might not be her maid). However, Her thought that queen has anything to do with it is just her jealousy and inferiority complex taking over.

 

It's quite unfortunate that she's pretty dumb and continue to be a puppet for the queen dowager. 

But still, she wouldn't be that dumb to shoot arrow at the queen. It could be an animal behind So Bong or it could be just editing to make preview more exciting.

 

 

1 hour ago, Madu Mita said:

That’s not possible , the king is a real historical figure ant that would change history. He’s meant to die without an heir so the last Joseon King can put on the throne, if his brother becomes king the whole lineage changes and probably the history too.

 

Every episode, the drama reminded us that all the people and place are fictional and not real history. 

Also, this is fantasy. The history is already changed the moment Jang Bong Hwan took over queen's body.

So Bong created this whole new kinds of food and teaching other chefs how to cook them. Queen even made a face mask and food carrier.

Also, the theme of drama seems to be not giving up on one's life and brave oneself to continue to live on.

 

44 minutes ago, aisling said:

Talking about consequences, if So Bong manages to take revenge on Mr Han and he’s unable to continue his lineage... It means in the future Jang Bong Hwan will never fall into a pool and he’ll never meet Cheoljong... I’m sure So Bong will come to the same conclusion as a way to “reset” everything.

 

I'm pretty sure So Bong's plan is not going to work. It's injustice and making the female lead evil. Therefore, Bong Hwan will return to modern era later to solve his own problem. 

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5 hours ago, orion00 said:

I don't know why I'm thinking the ending of this drama is the king and queen leaving the royal palace and lives like normal people. The queen open a restaurant somewhere and bring the korean dish to another level. Because historically the queen and king are died young right? Maybe they fake their death and live like ordinary people. And I think the cousin will helped them escape because he care with the queen so much. 

 

Both king and queen faking death is quite unrealistic even for this drama. That's asking for another palace disaster. Also, the drama is very open about people knowing their faces. Closest thing it could happen is that Cheol Jong abdicates and gives his throne to his half-brother, Prince Yeong Phyeong (if his ending is a good guy). Then Cheol Jong and So Bong leave the palace and So Bong opens a restaurant.

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READ AFTER WATCHING EP9

 

After watching the flashback, I believe HwaJin's motivation is not solely king's love.

HwaJin is actually the one who is obsessive with Kim So Yong. 

Not really Kim So Yong, but what she has. The power, money, and respect. Then it extended to So Yong's love, the king (who is another form of power).

HwaJin's family is not rich (her house in the ep1 and what king said about her father might not have power, but is respected).

Her childhood flashback seems to tell that she often purposely wore similarly like So Yong and spent time around her and her place. 

HwaJin's kindhearted nature seemed to be a facade that came out of this obsession about what Kim So Yong has. But more importantly, it's a facade for the king. The only possession that HwaJin has of So Yong's. The king's image of HwaJin who saved him.

From what Prince Yeong Phyeong said, I can tell that HwaJin and king actually didn't spend much time together. That flashback seems to be basically it. No wonder king kind of lost interest in her the moment he began to have interest in the queen. 

HwaJin's facade breaks as her only possession, king, seems to be slip out from her hands. It's more frustrating and desperate because king's interest is in "Kim So Yong."

I believe at the back of HwaJin's mind, she has this complex that she can be and she is better than Kim So Yong, but since she never could prove it, she probably has inferiority superiority complex.

Her real self shows up when she's looking at herself in the mirror with queen's accessory. She doesn't think about king. she enjoys wearing the symbol of power, especially since the current queen is "King So Yong."

 

I actually was baffled that Prince Yeong Phyeong didn't say a thing about the queen's accessory. But then again, he had low education and especially not learned about queen's accessory, so I will give him a pass.

But oh my god, HwaJin is bold. She better stay inside all the time if she's wearing THAT and hope that grand queen dowager doesn't visit her. Because you're dead if you're founded out. King can't rescue you from THAT.

 

Also, the current King has interest in So Bong, not So Yong. If drama makes the end game as So Yong and King after finding out about the flashback, the King's "love" for So Yong will be as shallow as the current King's "love" for HwaJin. The moment someone else becomes his interest, King will often forget about So Yong, just like he's currently doing with HwaJin.

 

Anyway, I'm waiting for king to find out that masked man is not Kim Byeong In's doing. And masked man looks very like Kim Byeong In. I wonder they are supposed to be related in the drama. It could be just coincidence. 

I really do hope the drama does end with Kim Byeong In as a good guy, which i think he will since he's the only capable guy to lead the Kim clan. The queen definitely needs her clan to keep the position.

 

AND WE CANNOT FORGET THE KISS! King was surprised when So Bong kissed him back, but quickly got into the kissing. Then he totally forgot about the mission and continued to kiss until So Bong stopped. The king looked so dazed and confused when So Bong stopped kissing.  But he seems to have remembered his mission when So Bong started to act weird and drunk. I bet he doesn't talk about the kiss because So Bong expressed how much she regretted it after the kiss. That's why king said "forget about bad dream" after he knocked her out.

But I do hope we get a scene where king thinks about the kissing and how much he enjoyed it, therefore realizing his interest in So Bong.

 

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On 1/7/2021 at 7:03 PM, Raffles said:

You know how the King is much more observant than he lets on? I'll bet he filed away the Queen's original claim of not being who she appears to be and will have confirmed that to his satisfaction looong before the plot gets back to confronting him on it. I could totally see a Han and Leia moment. "I'm XX!" "I know."

 

Also bet they confess their love in similar circumstances. On the edge of death. I say this not knowing what the Chinese version or novel did, so could be way wrong....

 

The drama does show king looking at "Jang Bong Hwan was here." which was written on the rock. That scene was longer than necessary before he decided to pick up the headpin.

Also, king probably does remember queen's whole speech in the beginning, in which she said she's actually a man.

 

I could see an ending where So Bong confess again that she's actually a man, and king responds by saying that he doesn't care if queen is Kim So Yong or Jang Bong Hwan because he's still the husband and he's not going to divorce. He loves whoever the currently queen is.

 

 

1 hour ago, jongski said:

Is this done? This is the historical drama of Shin Hye Sun I totally forgot but want to watch. First time in this genre I think.  She's a good actress and I like her acting so. I'll binge this drama this weekend. It's good right? Is this the drama where it was report/article events was distorted ( something like that). I don't understand anything I'm not Korean but I still want to check this.

 

By the way, I'm not much into the male lead and not familiar #sorrynotsorry but as long as acting's good.. it's okay.

 

Nope, it's total of 20 episodes and we're currently waiting for this week's ep9 and ep10. It's Sat-Sun drama.

 

male lead's acting is great, but if you're only into female actress, you might end up having biased point of view, which might make you dislike male lead's character. Especially since male lead plays more serious type while female lead plays more comical type.

 

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5 hours ago, kwayteow_mama said:

i just have this 3 thoughts currently while waiting for the next episode

1. the king wouldn't have paid attention to the real soyong. it was only because she was sobong that he starts to find her interesting.. if things were to go back to the original state, the king may not have loved the original soyong persona.. unless their childhood is a wild card that changes everything.. 

2. if sobong were to stay, it will be equally troubling if she were to fall in love with the king (granted the soyong in her loves the king) because bong definitely doesn't identify himself as a gay.. so i'm really interested to see how they can make all this come together. 

3. if sobong stays, will (s)he change history by becoming his ally if (s)he really did fall in love with the king? if they joined forces, king cheoljong may go down in history as a good king who managed to subjugate the corrupt kim clan and not the useless king in the original bong universe

 

1. true, that's why i would scream if they will bring original So Yong and suddenly say they lived happily ever together. I think another drama did this? Oh My Ghost?

 

2. If it is correct that both Kim So Yong and Jang Bong Hwan's souls fuse together, this new version might become bisexual. i guess it makes sense in a "fantasy" sense. Then i guess the new version will also be comfortable with being both genders. in the end, this new version will truly become So Bong, either yet neither of them. I just hope the drama shows the scene where Bong Hwan accepts it and become comfortable with it. I know it's comedy, but still that scene is important if i'm correct that they will fuse together to become one.

 

3. i believe this is given. this is a fantasy drama after all and drama keeps saying it's different from real history. CheolJong is portrayed to be a secret rebel who wants to overthrow overpowered Kim clan. Yeah, the history will change and Kim clan will lose their power. I think drama won't kill all the Kim clan though. I still have hope for Kim Byeong In and Kim Hwan. Also, if drama wants to keep queen in the position, killing all the kim clan is definitely no.

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I finally finished watching the whole episodes! 

 

There goes my hope for happy king poly ending. I could still hope for happy Hong Yeon poly ending, but i think it will ends up just being Hong Yeon and Hong Byeol Gam.

I really like Hong Byeol Gam's character. It's been awhile since I saw "average" looking guy who acts funny and ridiculous, but it's actually mostly façade, and is very talented and can focus on his work. I love that the drama actually portray him very appealing and competent, even giving him a secret admirer.

 

It's funny to see the similarities between Kim Byeong In and Prince Yeong Phyeong, though prince definitely has more chivalry with king's concubine than Kim with king's queen. Then again, So Yong did let him kiss. still, i like that both tried to contain themselves. I like their stubborn serious personalities with their complex love. I just hope they don't go farther if women don't show any interest, and don't go to evil side just because of their feelings for women. I'm afraid that they will though. 

 

It's ridiculous to see everybody having crush on each other, but it's comedy after all. So is it romantic comedy? It feels like it. 

 

Hopefully soon, King will decide that queen will be his ally, and tell her the truth of his planning to get rid of corrupted Kim clan. But i do understand why he doesn't immediately say it because it's hard to go against your own family. besides if he did tell her, Jang Bong Hwan probably will betray the king since he wants to side with grand dowager queen. And since the queen herself is hiding a secret from the king, i guess it evens out.

 

I HAVE A THEORY that Kim So Yong and Jang Bong Hwan's two souls are currently fusing together after that lake kiss between them. That's why they didn't exchange the bodies, but sharing it. So when the soul was in Jang Bong Hwan's body, the queen didn't return. However, chef's body is too greatly physically damaged for the soul to take control of the body. The only reason why Jang Bong Hwan is dominant is because he has a will to live while So Yong doesn't. Body memories can be recovered, but that does not give you feelings. Jang Bong Hwan continues to feel feelings for the king because of his soul is fused with So Yong's soul (her feelings).

 

I like this theory because it's the best way to not throw away both So Yong and Jang Bong Hwan. If king ever falls in love with the queen (which he kind of already is), it's obvious that he's going to be in love with this new version instead of original So Yong. If the drama just brings back So Yong and somehow says that they lived happily ever after, i'm going to scream.

 

So Yong and Jang Bong Hwan seems to each possess what other needs, but doesn't have. Kim So Yong being smart and having great etiquette including kindhearted, while Jang Bong Hwan having high self-esteem and self-confidence including bravery. When their souls fuse together, they will complete each other, therefore the new soul or new Jang Bong Hwan will both fight against evil of Joseon and Modern era.

 

I know that the drama will definitely go back to modern era to solve the modern politic problem, but probably at the end when So Yong's smart and etiquette have definitely integrated into new Jang Bong Hwan.

 

It's ridiculous but i'm hoping that later new Jang Bong Hwan can change the bodies at will, so that he doesn't have to leave anyone behind, especially king and Jang Bong Hwan's mother.

 

 

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9 hours ago, sw33tm3lody said:

Ignore them. What matters is that Kim Jung Hyun is receiving a lot of praise from the media & most of the audience. There's one article that calls him "irreplaceable presence" and every time an episode ends, there are at least 2 articles about his excellent acting. There will always be people who don't like his acting style or his characters, but that's never kept him from making the majority of viewers fall in love with his roles. 

 

Honestly, SHS plays the titular character, so yeah, she's the main focus of the story and the one that shines the most. If the titular character was outshined by another character that wouldn't be a good sign for the drama. It's great that the two of them are getting a lot of recognition and praise. Everything needs to remain balanced if we want the drama to continue flourishing. Personally, I think the two of them are A+ outstanding actors with a very promising future, and that's the only thing that matters. 

 

Yes, I should just ignore them. I'm glad he's getting praised. I hope all the actors and actresses are getting praised because they are all wonderful.

yeah, i agree that she should get most praised. like you said, she's THE protagonist. but there were so many comments saying "she's carrying the whole show! Other actors can't compare to her! Those other actors are not good at acting." As if she's the only one who's doing the good job. That pissed me off.

 

But yeah, I should just ignore them. Thanks.

 

 

3 hours ago, enzek said:

Just don't care about those comments.

 

The most important is local audience love BOTH Shin Hye Sun and Kim Jung Hyun performances and their chemistry in this drama. I also had read bit translation on twitter of Korean articles praising Kim Jung Hyun acting skill for Cheoljong's dual character.

 

Our queen praises for our king

 

Yeah, Thanks. I shouldn't care about them. i'm glad local audiences love both of them!

That's sweet of Shin Hye Sun to praise him! 

 

3 hours ago, Noor Hasliza Zakaria said:

Thats why he choose to wait n see how the queen react.. I cant wait to see this drama.. I watched the original series which make me anxious to watch the korean version of it..

 

I heard the korean one is completely different except for whole body time skip? Is that true? Or is it still similar like Scarlet Heart Moon Lovers? That drama was somewhat similar yet different from the original.