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  1. 43 minutes ago, kimmortal said:

    I like the Cantonese voices for Wuji and Zhao Min, just from this short clip. Some people said that Wuji's voice sounds flat? I haven't seen emotional scenes so I can't say, but it's good that the Cantonese showing has finally introduced Zhao Min. I know in Hong Kong her character is very popular.

     

    https://www.weibo.com/tv/v/Huqxd5nnD?fid=1034:4372517536909080

     

    I like ZM voice, not so much for WJ. Everytime I saw this ep I always think that ZM fan is a concealed boomerang. It came back to her after she throw it away.

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  2. 5 hours ago, LaurenPanna said:

     

    Coincidentally I rewatch it too after i subbed... I want to thank vicious219 for helping to upload, to amend the timing and arrange everything properly and nicely. Deeply appreciate. Its a totally different feeling watching with Eng Subtitles. 

     

    I would like to do one more, which episide is the top favourite for every one which has not been subbed yet? 

     

    34 & 38 :grimace:

  3. 1 hour ago, PutriSing said:

     

    That's true. I kinda like our scene better coz he prepared food specially for her. Awwww... 

    That whole suicide thingy is so fake and dumb. Oh my goodness - but all those Ming people just believed it. It's so frustrating. ZR must have felt that she's losing WJ fast and the suicide act will get him back to her. 

     

    I think a lot of scenes was changed to fit the new script, like the hotpot scene change to i cook for you scene. Staying at farm house and pretend to be husband and wife to just staying at farm house.

  4. 3 hours ago, kur4p1k4 said:

    I have to rant, doing sub for eps.41. If I don't rant I'll have high blood pressure just from subbing ZR being two-faced ar**, daring to say to ZM " You slander me!" Excuse me! F*** you!! :rage:  orz

    So yah have to rant about ZR why she's such a boring antagonist.

    @graceeedwardmom But yah Yellow dress lady fight not happening was so disappointing I wish they didn't change that from all the stuff they already changed

     

    As I only remember the 86th version, does in the other versions ZR also act as bad in this shameless i'm a victim holier-than-thou way?

  5. 28 minutes ago, chipz03 said:

    Disclaimer: this is my personal view on character like ZZR (referred strictly to the traits of character ZR or those resembling this fictional character. Not the actresses who played them) .  This might not be agreeable to some. No ill intention whatsoever. 

     

    This post might contain allusion to emotional abuse and/or turmoil (very mildly alluded,  and not explicitly stated of course).  Please do not proceed to read if this might not sit well with you.

     

    Peace all :blush:

     

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    One of the reasons why I could not pity or like ZZR character or other characters that pretend to be weak to get pity of the person they like (strictly the fictional character , not the actresses who have ever portrayed her), even when I was much younger watching the 86 version (for ZR) , is how scarily manipulative this  type of character is. Like in the case of ZR in HSDS,  She did the crime and yet she still play those emotional manipulation toward WJ. She lied to keep him. She kept her facade, never mind that by doing so,  she is ready to get the man that she supposedly really love enter the marriage marred with lies that cover horrible crime.  The manipulation was astounding. For example,  in this version, she dared to confront WJ if he suspected her (when ZM revealed her evil doing in front of the Ming members). 

     

    She has pretty face, dainty appearance, outwardly meek demeanor and "the perfect wife" materials, but behind all these traits exist someone who can commit murders on people who she thinks threaten her goal. Sure,  she had MJST that can be blamed for her descend to the psychotic side, and I am not dismissing the role MJST played in shaping ZR,  but at the end of the day,  she make that choice to commit all those evil deeds.

     

    She can blame the world high and low,  blame MJ  but she was the one who decided not only to steal the sword and sabre and learned the secret to bring glory to Emei,  but she also planned to (and did) frame ZM and leaving her adrift in the ocean, she killed the villagers (in the novel, if I remembered correctly), she slashed YL face. I am not sure MJ told her to do all that,  in addition to wanting her to kill WJ. 

     

    Honestly, I don't think she ever plan to reveal her bad deeds to WJ even if they did get married. At least not if she could. So long that no evidences and witness to link those crimes to her,  I personally feel she will not reveal. She's doing her shifu deeds afterall *roll eyes*

     

    Even in real and nowadays life,  a person like WJ should thank his or her lucky star that he can escape the betrothal before things went too far with character like ZZR.  All the joy and novelties of having the "perfect spouse" would soon be gone once the other side of his/her spouses rear its head. Cannot get too close to his/her cousins,  lest the spouse will go on jealous rampage. If one want to quit and walk away from this type of relationship, with the tactic like hurting oneself/threatening suicide,  it would be quite hard and emotionally draining to extricate oneself from the mess, the emotional burden, rollercoaster and guilt.  It's scary scary scary reality actually:cry:

     

     

     

    I agree that I also think that she wasn't planning on coming clean even after marriage. Why would she? If at the end she got the man, why can't she keep the innocent, pure act if he was none the wiser. I definitely think she would choose to vilify MM.

  6. 16 hours ago, graceeedwardmom said:

    Hey don't blame him. Just imagine if you're one of the Ming sect people. Can you imagine Zhang Jiaozhu is actually in love with a foreign princess?? This one is not just foreign but direct from the enemy camp. 

    Some people might think it's just temporary  infatuation until the hype burnt down but instead the fire in their heart getting stronger. Their leader start showing unusual behaviour and the romance going to the marriage very soon. They used to be ganging up on him and push him to do what they want but now he stand for her against them. If me, i might want to assasinate her secretly.

     

    I'm bias toward MM hence my wanting to strangle those hypocrite. On the other hand I also understand that they think everything was going their way, with having powerful, young, popular, charismatic leader who could have been an emperor and bring glory to Emei whoopss.. I mean Ming sect. 

     

    They don't have the balls to assasinate MM though in the end :D

  7. 1 hour ago, kur4p1k4 said:

    Zhang Wu Ji really has extreme examples of true love:

    ZCS-YSS suicide together just because people just can't let them be

    YX-JXF, YX always alone waiting for JXF, JXF rather die than kill YX

    Hu Qing Niu-Wang Nan Gu, couple that so opposite but love each other deeply

     

    This version make good contrast though, unlike his father at least WJ dared to stand in front of his brothers and defend ZM, and they at least can be happy in this world

    ZCS sadly have no courage to at least defend YSS towards his Wu Dang's brothers, but rather kill himself. 

     

    Thanks @jackieusa for all the gifs, I need to cleanse myself while subbing ep.42, my god Ming sect ppl are the worst, ZR is gaslighting WJ, I really can't imagine if those two got married how miserable WJ is going to be

     

     

    I hate those hypocrite mostly on the latter episodes. One character that I especially found myself want to throw my shoes or brick at is Bat King. When WJ can't find MM in 48, his immediate reaction was to ask if MM stole the military manual. And his I've done nothing wrong but please punish me face on 50 after they plotted to kill MM father. 

     

    But he already on my blacklist ever since he touched MM face :angry:

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  8. 2 hours ago, kur4p1k4 said:

    I have question for people who cannot understand Chinese or only understand Chinese at basic daily life terms, also who cannot read Viet sub, Indo sub, Thai sub or any other subs that is not English.

    How do you watch this series and actually follow the story?

    I'm actually curious, is there people who summarise it? Do all of you just remember what happen in the previous version or the book?

    Or are you all just good at guessing stuff?:sweatingbullets:

     

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    If there is English sub later on like months later, will you watch it again? For any series you like anyway

     

    I know the stories since I watched previous adaptation and sort of read the novel, so following the plotline was not an issue for me.

     

    But since this version deviated quite a bit, it also involved a bit of guess work -_-

     

    And this forum was a lot of help since you guys discussed conversations and context.

     

    Oh yeah I'm still patiently waiting for subtitle and will definitely watch again.

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  9. 32 minutes ago, vicious219 said:

     

    No, I think it's just the style of the author.

     

    Btw guys, it would be great if you could help sub the series when you have some spare time.  The YT community has been an immense help so far.  They've subbed up to episode 27.  You don't have to sub the episodes in order either.  You can just sub your favorite zm-zwj scenes.  Our english speaking friends need to know what they're saying so they can join us in our zm-zwj addiction.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuyfcUjDE--TshpquRKPFbLXr0mTBazWy

     

    One of the reason I still can't move on is I'm still waiting for the english sub so I can fully understand the convo.

     

    Super grateful to the YT subbers community for their contribution. :wub:

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