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  1. @msmy, I haven’t watched the subbed episode yet (I’m at work) but I didn’t realize that he confirmed to viewers that shady mom is his mother. Heh. That’s interesting and I guess I can accept it. I still think he’ll be sympathetic towards his mother because this is not a Western show. To me Asian shows go to great length to show children as filial. I can’t imagine covering for a family member who commit crimes but it’s often the case in Asian drama. It’s something that I cannot relate to at all. So that’s why I feel that eventually he will side with his mother. Somebody has to be on her side because a lot of characters won’t be on her side.
  2. @tulip06 I don’t want Man Soo to be shady mom’s son but I guess it is in fact likely. The reason I’m against it is because then he will be sympathetic to her. Even if he has revenge in mind, just because she’s his mother he will probably side with her eventually. I also think he likes Song-Ah. The scene played off as though he found her attractive by the way he was gazing at her. Maybe his revenge can also be against J Group and Song-Ah was marrying into J Group. @Lmangla didn’t Dong Joo tell Kyung In that Eun Seok’s father died by stab wounds while tracking down Black Rose? I feel like he mentioned it to her yesterday.
  3. @tulip06 you will have to make do today because I watched the raw episode and Song-ah’s mom kept mentioning Kyung-ah’s name. Anyway, the private investigator and Dong Joo met the cop who was on the pickpocket case and a lot was said perhaps including the fact that the investigation was stopped by someone. They all found it suspicious it seems. Song-ah and Dong Joo continue to get to know each other better. Kyung In and Ma Eum invited Song-ah’s mom over for dinner. Their family seem to be getting closer. Ms. Naive seem to have believed everything her mom said so she deleted Kyung In’s phone number from her phone. She and Eun Seok talked for a bit and I almost got the impression that she wanted to tell Eun Seok to stop investigating. Meanwhile I’m thinking why does Eun Seok have to get further involved with this family. Shady mom showed Song-ah’s picture to Man Soo and to me it seems like he was pretending not to know who the woman in the picture is. Later when he was alone in his office, a flashback shows him looking at Song-ah intensely while she’s photographed in her wedding gown. I’m now wondering if he’s in love with Ms. Naive or did he fall for Song-ah.
  4. @Lmangla, I haven’t watched the subbed episode yet since I’m still at work but I feel the same way about Man Soo. Watching his dad die like that must have been a terrible experience. Jenny falling for her mother’s fake tears had me rolling my eyes and fast forwarding through that scene in the raw episode. I just didn’t have the patience to watch the whole scene. I’m liking Song-Ah and Dong Joo very much. I’m guessing that Kyung In must have told him about Song-ah’s marriage because his reaction seem to correspond with that.
  5. I watched the raw episode and it seems like Man Soo’s dad was murdered right in front of him when he was a kid. So whatever his motive, it might be tied to his father’s death. It seems like Eun Seok will hire Dong Joo’s friend to investigate shady mom and the pickpocket. In the preview he showed the investigator the video of shady mom watching the attack on Jenny and later on Dong Joo and the PI were looking at shady mom on the video and talking about it. My least enjoyable part of the episode is again Jenny. Young Man and his sister met by chance at a nightclub. That guy really must not know what love is because he was dumped and it doesn’t even seem to make an impression on him except for the embarrassment of knowing he was played.
  6. @Lmangla, I hope her brain stays switched on. She definitely deserve better. In their conversation Song-Ah said he was actually dating two women at the same time and they both came to her to tell her about the other. That guy isn’t worth it. Perhaps his storyline will be to join his mother in thwarting Eun Seok because he seem to think he’s the current heir to J Group.
  7. @Lmangla @lu09 I can tell that you both watch quite a few of these dailies because you’re speculating plot that hasn’t even entered my mind. I kept wondering if Kyung In will have a life outside of her career pursuit as a reporter and outside of her development at home but it never occurred to me that the writer might pair her up with that good-for-nothing guy. I hope we don’t see anything like this for her. Strangely though, when you raised this idea, I recalled Kyung In telling Song-Ah she did well to dump such a guy. This also reminds me how much I enjoyed Kyung In speaking so affectionately of her brother’s qualities to Song-Ah.
  8. @Lmangla, I remember you made a lot of good points about why Jenny continue to assume a passive role in her own life. I confess the more I watch of Jenny, my sympathy is dwindling. I like her a lot as a person but if, for instance, her mother marry her off to Man Soo I can’t say that I would feel sorry for her. I think it’s just that I cannot relate to how passive she still remains when her mother is doing or saying outrageous things. An example would be like when her shady mom told Eun Seok, his aunt and his cousin that she has a fiancé and her fiancé would be very upset or something like that. Jenny didn’t say a word to clarify the truth even prompting the chairman to lecture Eun Seok that he shouldn’t be interested in an engaged/married woman. So I’ve been trying to be patient with Jenny but if she isn’t willing to start taking an active interest in her life I don’t really feel sorry for her. I absolutely enjoy Song-ah, her mom, Kyung In, Ma Eum, and Dong Joo’s continued development. The scenes are a warm contrast to Eun Seok’s family although his family is not that bad. Even though his aunt plots against him, she doesn’t come off as hateful like some other greedy moms. She’s indeed a troublemaker but she’s not terrible to me on a grand scale although it’s pretty horrible that she didn’t seem to love her grand daughter. I can’t wait until she finds out her silly son got dumped. I hope he never shows up in front of Song-ah again.
  9. I do wonder why any government would create statute of limitations on murder. The person should be punished for the crime regardless of when the truth is discovered. In any case, I hope shady mom ultimately end up behind bars.
  10. Anyway I remember a hilarious comment on YouTube that said Yiqing will quicker die from the stupidity of the females around him than his cold virus disease. However, as much as I adore Yiqing, in episodes 35 and 36 I was very disappointed with the way he handled the situation with Jingrong. Now that we’re getting close to the end I will stop looking at spoilers because I don’t want to be discouraged from watching the entire series (since the English translated episodes are a week behind the live episodes) no matter the end. I will avoid spoilers at all cost until I can watch the end for myself. So I guess I will be avoiding this thread for the next two weeks.
  11. @joccu, yes Man Soo is currently an intrigue. When he first appeared he seemed harmless and fully deceived but the later episodes reveal that he has men tailing Jenny and his soliloquy often give the impression that he knows something about Shady Mom. He also seem to want a connection with J Group and shady mom/Jenny. I keep wondering if he is the one sending the anonymous text messages to Shady Mom and somehow wants her to come in contact with the chairman of J Group considering the chairman’s son was killed by a female criminal that very well could be shady mom. Or, is his agenda about revenge for something in the past. If he own hotel chains I don’t see why he arranged the deal between Jenny and J Group unless it’s really for Jenny’s benefit.
  12. @msmy, I’m with you. I’m quite worried about the pacing since it’s 120 episodes but I’m hoping the writer continue to show the morally fit characters as sensible. ES has been so sagacious about the terrible acts orchestrated by shady mom that it actually makes me a little nervous about if the writer can keep this up. However, I was reading a blog yesterday about Korean dailies and it said that Ugly Alert had much better development and character growth than the more modern dailies. Ugly Alert was my first daily and Love Til The End was my second daily. The latter daily reminded me very much of the US daytime soap operas I used to watch. Ugly Alert however was very enjoyable for me for the most part. The blog writer mentioned that old dailies actually had better development starting with the “falling in love” stage to the having kids stage and the evil characters got punished.
  13. @Lmangla, I would love if Man Soo come against shady mom to keep her in check. I do wonder what is his true agenda because it’s clear that he seem to know things about shady mom. He had his men watching Jenny so I wonder if they also saw shady mom on the scene. It would be interesting if he’s the one sending her threatening text messages.
  14. @Lmangla, unfortunately Jenny is still trying with her might to excuse her mom’s behavior. I’m glad that Kyung In showed up and revealed her meeting with shady mom before Eun Seok met Jenny. In that way Jenny will hopefully realize that two different individuals notice her mother is very strange. I can’t say I have much trust in Jenny investigating the crime in Japan on her own. Now that her mother is more alert and that guy Man Soo is also there, either of them can intervene to change the story. It also seems like shady mom got the police in Korea to drop the investigation into the pickpockets according to the preview. I wonder if shady mom will be able to successfully marry off Jenny while in Japan. One never knows how low she will go.
  15. Omo, I just saw a clip on YouTube of episode 51 and jealousy really seem to lead people down a twisted path. I could see the betrayal coming but I’m so disappointed in
  16. I just finished watching episode 15 and it touched my heart in all the right places. I simply love the way the script writer handled the painful situation and revelation for Deok Mi, her family and Ryan. I’m so glad the obligatory breakup didn’t happen. My hats off to the writer. So many touching and emotional scenes packed into one episode. I think my favorite is Ryan and Doek Mi’s mom “forgiveness” and “thank you” scene.
  17. @msmy, I can’t imagine Jenny finding out that shady mom isn’t her real mom anytime soon. That’s why I’m curious about how she’ll continue to manage manipulating Jenny considering that Jenny is ever so slowly noticing shady mom is strange. The preview upsets me. That lady is freely treating ES like thrash and he endures it.
  18. @lu09, thanks for the spoilers. The episode sounds good. I hope Jenny continues to wake up to her mom’s oddness. I just finished watching the episode and Shady Mom intends to marry off Jenny when they return to Japan so that when she comes back to Korea to work with J Group she will be a married woman. Man Soo seem to know more than we imagined. He’s very shady too. His spies reported back that Jenny went to the police station to file a report and he and his cohort are wondering what will happen if the thieves are found. I get the impression that they know Shady Mom’s antics.
  19. @Yui., I don’t think romance follows a set course especially if the characters and their circumstances are complicated. I actually don’t believe Yiqing ever intended to fall in love with Jingrong perhaps because he said that he lives one day at time and some things he deem as important and some not so important so he doesn’t pour his heart into it. In the beginning at times he seem to flirt with Jingrong and sometimes he’s standoffish. So I don’t think for him it was a linear development. However, I think the more he interacted with Jingrong the more he became attracted and involved although by his thoughts in ep 28 it’s clear that he tried for a long time to ignore his feelings. As to Jingrong, I think her perspective is more complicated. When she was present at Snow Tower she was friendly, shy and gentle. I truly believe she was protective of Yiqing because like everyone else she thought he was too sickly to face the internal strife at Snow Tower. She also remembered how Yiqing accompanied her in the vigil for her dad and I feel that her heart was softened towards him in gratitude. Nevertheless, to me she seemed attracted to him. After the tragedy at Sand Valley and the three years time skip, I felt Jingrong had pretty much returned to how she used to be before Sand Valley took her in. She no longer trusted anyone and is quite stubborn to a fault. I think her problem with Yiqing is she doesn’t fully trust him and she obviously hold grudges against him for the Lei family son and thinks that he can be ruthless. It’s not until she learns that he’s the gentle doctor that she starts to see this other side to him which he always hid from her. That’s when the two versions of Yiqing becomes one for her. I think having her find out before Yiqing was kidnapped was the turning point for her because now a real life and death situation intervened to test the true nature of her feelings. Moreover, Nanchu also told Jingrong about the things Yiqing did for her in secret and that further made an impression. So to answer your question, I think she let down her resistance to Yiqing after she found out he was the gentle doctor who took care of her. I can certainly understand this because no matter how much Yiqing likes her he is still harsh with her if he needs to be. In Sand Valley she was coddled and protected so the way Yiqing treats her is very different to her senior brother and master. To be honest, I really do not see anything wrong with the romantic development. It kind of reminds me of the famous and much beloved literary work “Pride and Prejudice” written by Jane Austen and adapted into film repeatedly through the years. If Jingrong fell only after she learned about that other side of Yiqing then her predecessor is Elizabeth Bennett who after she realized she was prejudiced against Mr. Darcy, she began to realize how blind she was to his merits and began to appreciate and sincerely love the man. As to the reunion between elder brother and Jingrong, I haven’t seen it but I imagine there are so many things that have happened to change them and they will never be the same. Don’t forget elder brother has assassinated dozens of people for the former Moon Sect Queen. I don’t see how he’ll ever be the same. However, there’s a clip on YouTube
  20. @xienrue, I actually like the romance. I don’t understand your explanation at all about it coming out of nowhere. Are you saying that they must have fallen for each other in childhood for a romance to develop between them ten years later? They were kids. What would they know about romance? It’s more plausible that they meet ten years later and fall for each other. While Jing Rong was upset with Snow Tower for getting her father killed, she wasn’t mean towards child Yi Qian. Furthermore, why wouldn’t she have changed in ten years under the protection and guidance of her master? Why would she stay the same over ten long years? Moreover, a poignant moment did exist in their childhood. A very sick Yi Qian stood vigil overnight with Jing Rong as she mourned her father. It obviously left an impression on Jing Rong’s mind as we saw when she bade him farewell while he was sick in bed and she made that pinky promise with him to one day meet again and for his health to improve. When they meet ten years later, just the way Yi Qian looks at her says a lot. I’m pretty sure that he had no intention of falling for her but it was clear every time they met that he was attracted to her. I know a lot of viewers don’t like subtle romantic development but the male actor does an excellent job conveying his feelings through his eyes and when he looks at her in their early time spent together during the turmoil at snow tower it was plain to see in his eyes, words or gestures. Most importantly, love can begin in a moment. There are some scenes early on that I distinctly remember where I began to feel an attraction existed between the two: When Yi Qian stepped forward and Jing nervously stepped backward as he asked her if she knew him since she mentioned his old illness. It was the first time as viewers we saw a look like that on his face almost like he’s flirting with her. That is not normal Yi Qing at all. In the woods when she told him that he won’t be lonely in the pugilistic world because his sword will always protect him. He responded that yes it will protect him and those he wish to protect. Excellent subtle acting by the actor because after he said it, he raised his eyes and looked at her meaningfully basically implying that she was one of those he wanted to protect. The first time Jing brought him medicine and she couldn’t find him in the room and he appears from behind a curtain and the way the whole scene was shot implies something romantic in the air. The slow motion of him coming forth to meet her, the view of him from her perspective, the way the camera focused on him taking the bowl from her with their fingers almost touching, the way it focuses again on her fingers fidgeting as she waited for him to finish drinking the medicine...all these are signs that there’s more going on here than face value. Their first meeting in sand valley after the bat attack also subtly shows some attraction. The look between them when he appears on the scene was even felt by Qing Lan as he stood in the middle. Jing Rong even looked away after Qing Lan looked at her questioningly most likely because he noticed the way she and Yi Qian were looking at each other. As to Yi Qian dying, yes, it seems inevitable although I sort of prefer that he’s alive at the end still living each day at a time. I always wonder what will happen to Snow Tower because Jing Rong has repeatedly made it clear that if Yi Qian isn’t there at Snow Tower she won’t stick around. However, Snow Tower was created to defeat the Moon Sect so I suppose if the Moon Sect is destroyed there is no purpose for Snow Tower. I also think Xiao Tai and Qing Yu will bring destruction to Snow Tower. The way things are going lately it’s like they’re both headed down the path of betrayal.
  21. Many many thanks. The lyrics are so poignant. When they translated some of words in the episodes I felt that I wanted to hear more because it seemed to provide some insight into Yi Qian’s feelings for Jing Rong. Some of what’s conveyed in the song lyrics was also admitted in Yi Qian’s silent thoughts in episode 27 or 28. He said he ignored or hid his feelings for years but now the lovesick tears (the poison he drank) has exposed his feelings.
  22. @Lmangla, so then we will have to wait for a while for Jenny to catch up to everyone else’s thinking that her fake mother is strange. Eun Seok and Kyung In definitely think she’s suspicious. The aunt and Eun Jin clearly thinks she’s strange but won’t interfere. The grandfather agrees with Eun Seok that the contract stipulation barring Eun Seok from contacting Jenny is, in his observation, unreasonable. Makes me wonder what will it take for Jenny to stand up to shady mom. She might observe the way other people live eventually but suppose she thinks it’s because she’s a celebrity of sorts and that her shady mother is just trying to protect her? I think what Jenny needs to shake her up is noticing that she experiences too many accidents. That would be a step in the right direction. Eun Jin indeed seem to ship Eun Seok and Jenny. The elevator ride with them was amusing.
  23. @Lmangla, Eun Jin had me cracking up with that response to her mom when she asked her to escort Jenny to the ladies room. She’s so real in the situation. I should give Eun Jin’s mom some credit though because the expression on her face during her meeting with shady mom while listening to shady mom’s nonsense seem to suggest that the aunt is beginning to think shady mom’s behavior is weird. The aunt isn’t totally clueless but she’ll ignore the weirdness for her own benefit. I hope her son returns soon because I’m interested to know what will be his storyline now that he was dumped and humiliated. @Lmangla, I agree that Jenny might engage Kyung In to write a news report if necessary but it might not be a rebuttal to the reporter at the police station. I kind of expect shady mom to have her own reporter rebut any bad news. So then perhaps Jenny will engage Kyung In for a piece on her career instead. I think the reporter at the station just might be the catalyst to putting Jenny in the news as a victim of a crime. @lu09, I’m glad Jenny is getting curious about shady mom but I always think she won’t pursue it to the end since she has a habit of making excuses for her mom’s strange and controlling behavior.
  24. Well, Jenny is certainly now fully aware that her shady mom forbids all contact with Eun Seok. I’m glad he told her about the contract clause before they faced off with shady mom in J Group after returning from the police station. At least in this way Jenny wasn’t too shocked by her furious behavior towards Eun Seok when they returned to the office. I like that shady mom is behaving over the top because there’s a chance it might get Jenny to start taking control of her life. I find it so funny that shady mom resorted to tearing up the signed contract in Eun Seok’s face when just moments before, unbeknownst to shady mom, Eun Seok and Jenny came to the agreement that they will cancel the contract because of the clause that forbade Eun Seok from having any contact at all with Jenny. However, what I think might work out for Jenny’s benefit is the fact that a reporter sneakily took a video of her reporting the robbery attack against her days before. Eun Seok was also recorded describing the robbers and the direction they took and encouraged the police to look at the CCTV in the area. The fact that the reporter furtively took the video of them reporting the crime might prevent shady mom from dragging Jenny back to Japan because news break out about this. I’m not sure if the reporter heard the part with Jenny inquiring if her shady mom didn’t report the crime. If the reporter heard that, it would be an interesting news piece to ask why the shady mom didn’t report it.
  25. @Lmangla @lu09 Even Eun Seok’s cousin said she noticed the “chemistry” between him and Jenny. It’s apparent to me too. They get along naturally and seem to be on the same wavelength. I first noticed it when he met her in the park and gave her the bouquet of flowers. I think Man Soo might become an equal obstacle for them just like the mother. This is new territory in the world of Jenny for him because previously Jenny was so isolated that it didn’t matter much if she rejected him but now there’s a new rival whom she seem to hit it off with.
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