Liina_3
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@enigmatic_zephy regarding your question about the romance and so on: yes there is.
regarding your question about "mom": there will be more about her later.
May you have fun watching the show!
I enjoyed it a lot! I'm watching it for the second time now together with a neighbor to whom it is the first k-drama ever!
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3 hours ago, oyeleyeolusina said:
Everyone who has watched the TWDR is saying how extreme and intense YBW was in the tree but almost everyone has changed in the tree from how they were in SFD. for example MH who in SFD is always contemplating whether it is right or not to kill someone expect when he is not fighting against a fellow warrior, in the tree had no problem telling Yi Do that he should kill Ddol-Bok, when he was blaming Yi Do for the death of his father in the shack and Ddol-Bok was still a child then but MH has changed so much in the tree, that he was ready to kill anyone who he saw as been against Yi Do.
I thought that Muhyuls behaviour against Ddol-bok was actually well explained through Six Flying Dragons. He has seen a whole dynasty coming to an end, because one bodyguard hesitated to kill a teenage warrior that was charging at her without a sword.
Also he maybe was conflicted about whether to kill the kid or not, because a little bit later he contemplated the same problem again after young Ddol-bok attacked him with a sword and at that point he told Ddol-bok to get out of the place if he wants to live. I don't know though, if this was triggered because he didn't want to kill a child or because he wanted to honor Lee Do's decision.
The Muhyul in Six Flying Dragons has a little bit a similar problem like Alcheon in Queen Seondeok. The latter found himself in situations where the ideals of the Hwarang Codex clashed. Muhyul in Six Flying Dragons often contemplates the behaviour or advices of other warriors that represents different parts of the warrior code. He then finds himself in situations where these ideals clash. Thus he is often in situation where he is in a moral dilemma. So he is now starting to learn to take responsibility for the action he takes when he only can choose between wrong or wrong.
I also have the feeling that Muhyul in Six Flying Dragons as well as in Tree With Deep Roots is constantly learning and growing and both series together build a well done circle, where the end kind of comes back to the beginning, but the actions in the end that are similar to the beginning are done with awareness.
Besides of Guan Yu Muhyul reminds me a little bit of Parzival. Probably because of the women. Parzival also had a soft spot for women. And he was often guided by women. Like Muhyul often gets advice from Boon-yi. Haha, would that make Lee Do the Holy Grail then.
I really like it that Muhyul and Lee Bangji are so very, very different from each other. They are nearly opposites. But both of them are very likable in their own way.
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2 hours ago, honeywell said:
So BJ and MH both have the same title?
Bangji = Samhan Jeilgeom (First Sword of Three Han; Three Han refers to the three ancient Korean Kingdoms, so it is kind of another word for Korea)
Muhyul = Joseon Jeilgeom (First Sword of Joseon)
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32 minutes ago, natokajun said:
anyone here pro-moomyung? may be its just me but i somehow think moomyung great cause is relevant at some point. At least thats how the world working right now. Of course i have no idea how their prophecy can cause stabilization but their principle to have private land is what actually happening in this world right? Those who work and give more effort would receive the benefits. Those are rich get all the properties. On how they get rich that depends on their effort. And so thats how the society has been created. It might look unfair because poor people could not have the chance to own private land just because they have no power and money but that's how the world being setup. If a land was given freely to them, would they really use it in a good way and not just being a lazy butt waiting for government to feed them? Without determination, no success could be obtained. That's one thing i agree with moomyung. They help bangwon and lee in gyum, so i think they are not really a bad person. But they tried to kill king taejo so of course thats not acceptable. Their great cause however would create a dangerous world eventually. I think thats why both bangwon and sambong wanted to vanish them because greed can kill but surprisingly thats how the world is practically working right now. Sigh. It's a heavy topic indeed.
Hm, actually in the series there was not so much said about Moomyungs goals. I remember only two discussions where they revealed some of their ideas. One was the one, when Boon-yis talked to Bang-won about the impending war and the othe one was the one, when Mom talked to Sambong. Personally I had the feeling that it developed into a discussion about free market economy vs planned economy. I don't know where you are from, but my country and my neighbouring countries don't have Moomyungs idea of economy. Our economy is partially controlled by the government to prevent big companies from eating up small businesses. The state also takes care that big companies can't monopolize everything. In some of our neighboring countries the government also sets fixed prices for main food articles like bread and water. - I prefer that mixed system, even though it's not perfect either. But I haven't seen a country where planned economy worked and the countries with a more free economy seem all to have big problems with large conglomerates holding to much power.
Ah, sorry I'm not really able to talk about that stuff in english!
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"Six Flying Dragons" is probably the best historical-mixed-with-swordsmen-tales drama that I've ever seen. I had to go to the elections yesterday and even though I've always taken elections quite serious I think I have never checked and doublechecked my own election choice as thoroughly as this time!
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5 hours ago, honeywell said:
Anyone else curious what happened to Jang Sam Bong? He trained BJ and we only see him in flashbacks. Is he alive? The same with Bang woo. He disappeared and I know historically he died early but I don't think it was ever mentioned in the show.
Jang Sam Bong is the Korean Name of Zhang San-Feng, the legendary founder of Tai Chi Chuan. He only prolonged his stay in Korea, because he promised to train Bang-ji till Bang-ji would be strong enough to defend himself. So it is probably safe to assume that he returned to Wudang Mountains when Bang-ji had reached a certain Martial Arts Level. And he should be alive, because the legendary Zhang San-Feng became really really old. But you are right: it was not specifically mentioned in the drama.
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Haha, I'm not very surprised that you are shocked interpreting my typo that way.
What I wanted to write was Aristocracy, of course.
I didn't state my political opinion in my comment.
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@nevill @chocolatewaffle @SukBin
Your discussion is running in circles, because you are discussing two different things. One of you is discussing historical JDJ and the worth of his ideas. The other ones are discussing JDJ and his ideas and actions in Six Flying Dragons.
Personally I think that the political discussions in Six Flying Dragons are ideas about Platos Politeia, Platos work about justice and the just man. Jeong Do-jeon in Six Flying Dragons wants to create an Aristocrazy (in Platos sense, with the ministers and the kings taken from the caste of philosophers), he sees Yi Bang-won as dangerous, because he sees in him the young timocrat. And Jeong Do-jeons fears Mumyeong, because he is afraid that Mumyeong will try to turn his aritocratic state into an Oligarchy.
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[Drama 2015-2016] Six Flying Dragons 육룡이 나르샤
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@zenya22 @natokajun I'm with you. I had a big drama slump after Six Flying Dragons and Signal. I couldn't really get into another drama till recently! Instead I have just watched Six Flying Dragons again. Then again with a friend Then again with my neighbour.
The OST is also on constant repeat...
I find it really fascinating that everybody I watched Six Flying Dragons with, enjoyed it for another reason. I watched it for the metapolitical aspects, for the interpretations of the historical characters and for the swordsmen tales. My friend is watching it because she is totally mesmerized by Yoo Ah-ins acting. My neighbour likes the flair of the show. And my husband just likes everything and all about it.