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16 hours ago, sydneygirl2000 said:
a SPECIAL HELLO to Pen G .. and Cherry
EAW gave PEB her Baeksang Grand Prize but I feel it took so much from her. I hate the idea that her ML there will use her again in S2. If Diva doesn’t do well, she will have to do EAW2.
I took a break bcos TKA and RoBin seems a memory too far gone. RoBin doesn’t give us any crumbs at all .. I was pissed when after TKA won the Emmys, they didn’t organize any joint appearance to thank the viewers for the success of TKA .. we were elated, fans even pulled funds to organize promo LED ads but nothing from them .. just separate short statements. Winning the Emmys is a big deal, apparently not ..
A SPECIAL HELLO TO Sydneygirl2000!
Yes, that is true. Having ONLY discovered PEB in EAW and was a rookie. I made the rookie mistake of the TaeBin couple. But after watching TKA and TKA BTS, it was NIGHT and DAY comparison between RoBin and TaeBin.
And then, I realized how KTO totally milked PEB's phenomenal acting. In his radio interview, NOT once did KTO give credit to PEB. He was obviously basking in his newfound fame when his acting was very mediocre (he admitted he did not like his acting in EAW). Ugh! I hated that "green flag" term. As if, the role of a "green flag" would WIN acting awards.
Compare that to Rowoon. What a gentleman. Whenever, someone would compliment TKA or any awards the show would get, he would immediately deflect the compliment and give it to PEB. Even though Rowoon's acting was phenomenal as well. What a man!!!!
I am not saying KTO is a bad person. He just wasn't as gracious as Rowoon was to PEB. He became greedy.
Emmy Win
1) I think part of it was busy skeds after the Emmy Win on November 2022.
2) KBS is super-cheap. And I mean, EL CHEAPO. I was hoping for a get-together, too.
3) Maybe, they thought their short statements were enough?
Thank you for your thoughts! I love you GIRL!!!!
13 hours ago, woobin said:Thanks for this @MimiSchu now I’m smiling like an idiot. That gentle caress of Rowoon on PEB’s back made my heart melt even more. He didn’t let go right away, his hands gently and slowly got off her (as if he didn’t want to let go). I saw bts of the kiss scene in SWNK too and it’s different like letting go after the take was just as easy and quick. Yes he’s a true gentleman and always respectful of his FLs but his gestures towards PEB are extra sweet and he’s more clingy to her, always wanting to be close to her and touch her. PEB’s such a special bunny to Rowoon. How I miss these two! I’m dying to see them in another drama, a modern one though. Manifesting!!! One day, let’s all be surprised, I don’t care if it’s suspense, action, drama, romance, comedy, thriller, as long as they’re together in one frame.
ME TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Anything!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha
16 hours ago, sydneygirl2000 said:a SPECIAL HELLO to Pen G .. and Cherry
EAW gave PEB her Baeksang Grand Prize but I feel it took so much from her. I hate the idea that her ML there will use her again in S2. If Diva doesn’t do well, she will have to do EAW2.
I took a break bcos TKA and RoBin seems a memory too far gone. RoBin doesn’t give us any crumbs at all .. I was pissed when after TKA won the Emmys, they didn’t organize any joint appearance to thank the viewers for the success of TKA .. we were elated, fans even pulled funds to organize promo LED ads but nothing from them .. just separate short statements. Winning the Emmys is a big deal, apparently not ..
The only crumbs I have seen was an anonymous FT sent to Rowoon on 4/9/2023. And then, Rowoon replied with the "I Love You" emoticon.
But you are right. It could have been from anyone. hahaha
But Yuen is right, too. If they have some kind of relationship. Whatever label they would put on it. They will fiercely protect and preserve that so you MAY not be able to see the crumbs. In fact, they will make sure they will NOT leave crumbs.
I feel bad for them, though. Or for any SK actor/actress couple. It would be sooooooo exhausting to "lie" about each other, though. I mean, how long can you sustain that? It is not sustainable. Why not just go out in the open and admit it? Right?
It is just funny how Rowoon would always talk about his past GF. But now, he is so quiet about his love life. The talkative Rowoon suddenly quiet about his love life? hahahaha.
5 hours ago, Yuen10 said:I hope Cherry is ok too. She hasn’t posted for a while.
Yes I notice it too. Normally he would let go immediately and turn away almost but in the sunset one, he gently and slowly let go and I guess probably carefully make sure she got off his lap safe. The funny and smiley thing is he continues to reminisce on the kiss after and you can see PEB’s shy smile. OMG that cuteness is out of this world. I am thinking KSW what a tease!!
KSW is definitely showing his boulder side perhaps I should say he is showing a boulder Rowoon and that Rowoon is now an actor a with wider limits. Hopefully he is able to preserve KSW.
I must admit I was a little disappointed but took in consideration a lot of stuff might be controlled under their respective contracts for what they can say or not say. My delulu self is telling me that the TKA cast still has a live running chat group and was probably going wild with excitement during the Emmy announcement hence that’s why most of them posted on their IG almost moments apart. If KSW and PEB is an item, I seriously believe they will do everything in their power to keep crumbs away and protect each other and their relationship especially with the recent switch from Idol to Actor for KSW.
One thing I seem to notice is KSW is extremely outgoing and social in non Korean location events such as the Rimowa and the CK one where as the SK local ones he seems more calm and different. Like the AndZ one and even the photos of him and his Beasties at an event, he appears to be more subtle but that can also be because we don’t see a lot of photos release and just the one with him and his beasties sitting at the table.
Apparently the butler from TKA Gyupil is getting married in November. I wonder if KSW and PEB will both be invited. If let’s say they are not dating and haven’t seen each other for a long time due to their really busy schedules, hope they reunite at the wedding. Lol sorry for my delulu imagination.
That is true. They will protect whatever they have. Friendship or otherwise.
What do you think is the reason KSW seems to be more outgoing when outside SK? Thoughts?
I doubt they will go "together" to Gyupil's wedding. Or go at all. Or maybe, they will come in separate cars and pretend they just "saw each other at the wedding". hahahaha.
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19 hours ago, Eleve_ag said:
Hi everyone long time.
I think she should not do EAW. I have always felt that everytime she does a project, her fame gets divided. Even though the other actors are not doing the same hardwork. She was not happy during eaw. So on emotional level it's not worth it. And on professional level as well they people has taken a lot of advantage again and again and to go work with them again it's easy to get used as they want. So i think she is better of without Eaw second season. Mostly second season don't do that well. And i really wish to see her with very good male co stars where she also get a chance to learn new things. Sometimes or mostly she is like a stepping stone for most of her of stars. I really do wish to see her with A list actors specially in a rom-com. I think she will do a rom-com if her male co actors is famous. During this whole time i was a Robin shipper. But there were still good points for rowoon even after his new drama. But yes it dampened my ship a little bit. But now I want that CAD will make everyone swoon. I think drama is going to be a hit. But it will be very nice to see the ratings as many good dramas are coming with CAD.
Welcome back Eleve_ag! We missed you!
Yes, people have taken advantage of PEB, especially those at EAW
I will just copy what I wrote to Wiz below:
EAW
I think she already signed the contract for EAW Season 2 (S2). I could be wrong. Also, I think they upped her salary to accept EAW S2. THEY SHOULD. Because she probably did not want to do S2 anyway. I read that she also accepted CAD because the fliming of CAD would be done, once EAW S2 begins. I also read they were waiting for KTO. UGH!!!!!!!! That guy took advantage of PEB's acting skills.
The only disadvantage I see of not supporting PEB if EAW S2 does air.......... is that if it is a FLOP. PEB will no longer be the GOLDEN GOOSE that lays the GOLDEN EGG. Production companies, PDs and writers may NOT totally shun her but she may loose her WINNING STREAK. Now, obviously sometimes even our favorite actors and actresses may take on roles we may not like. But that is totally different from not being cast anymore because PEB's project was an utter failure and FLOP. Highly unlikely. But like you mentioned Season 2's may be HIT and MISS.
Just my opinion, though.
I don't know, I just do NOT want PEB to be labeled a FAILURE if EAW S2 is GREEN LIT and we don't watch her. PEB will be carrying the show and it would be a blow to her career if it was NOT successful. Poor PEB!!!!!!
Of course, we watch PEB for PEB's sake. But if EAW S2 has a really, really, really,really horrible script (I doubit it, Moon Ji Won the scriptwriter is great). Then that is a totally different story.
A-List MLs
If you have noticed when an actress/actor is A-List their ML or FL is not always A-List. Most of the time. This is for costs. Production companies will spend more on the LEAD but save on the co-star and supporting cast.
Unless, the project is BIG-BUDGET and an ALL STAR CAST most casting is done this way. Because they will think that the name of the A-List Actress or Actor alone will make the minimum number of people to watch.
This is true not only in the US. But other countries as well.
But I do understand your point of view. We hope we have a big budget project wherein PEB is paired with another A-List actor. But to me honestly, with Rowoon's acting skills. He is A-List in my book. hahaha
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On 10/17/2023 at 4:54 PM, sydneygirl2000 said:
HELLO .. apology in advance for my double standard view. I am ok for Rowoon to do bed scenes, he does it with so much tenderness, respect and care for his FL. I think FLs trust him as a pro actor & gentleman thats why they agreed.
NOW - I can’t imagine PEB in a bed scene with any other ML except Rowoon and not even with him.
AND I can imagine PEB agreeing for him to do it but as a considerate GF, she won’t do it for the sake of her BF & relationship seeing as she has no need to do it to advance her career. She is made, a legend already..
IF you guys read the first 20-30 pages of this site, you’ll find PEB does follow Rowoon. Even if he is younger in age and acting career, she respects Rowoon’s ideas etc .. he matches her mentally. Rowoon is the man in the relationship .. SHE ALLOWS HIM to take the lead hahaha .. she understands as the man, he needs to advance his career and in SK bolder roles are more acceptable with men.
I forgot to add Sydney.
What confuses me is this: Rowoon "hates things that make him cringe". One of his promo pics with JBA showed he could not even put his FULL hand over her shoulder. He was barely touching her shoulder. He seemed so awkward. And yet, he does a bed scene with her??? hahahhahaha.
Maybe, the photo shoot came first and the bed scence came later? Maybe, the photo shoot was expected by him but the bed scene came as a surprise? hahahaha
Anyway, I am just confused. I am not questioning the morality of the scene or his choices, now. I am just
genuinely confused? hahahaha.
Thoughts?
On 10/21/2023 at 2:43 PM, Yuen10 said:Completely agree. Thank you @Pen G and thank you Cherry for keeping this forum alive during deep droughts with loads of information for us.
Recent pictures and clip of Rowoon at the CK event reminds me that despite in many interviews and shows he seem wise beyond his age and appears more mature than his age, he is however still only 27, still very young and probably enjoys a cool party and meeting interesting fellow celebrities and models.
Thank you but Iit's not me. Credit goes ALL TO CHERRY. I wonder where she is? I hope she is okay?
I MISS CHERRY!
Yes, Rowoon is an old soul.
On 10/21/2023 at 9:00 PM, Wiz said:PEB’s promotion has been very focused on the story of CAD, her preparation for the role and why she chose it. PEB did state that she and her male lead had good chemistry but not much else on that subject. No couple photos/ photo shoots / Instagram posts with personal photos yet. I’m curious to see how the promotion will progress and if Netflix will heavily promote the romance angle of the drama. I hope they don’t and focus on PEB’s character’s journey. I would like to see her post the CAD cast on her Instagram account and do a cast or couple photo shoot with them. I enjoy the BTS photos that actors post from their shoots and promotion activities.
The CAD cast seems to get along well and seem friendly. PEB’s male lead Chae Jong Hyeop seems a little shy around her in the clips I saw. I think people think PEB is cute/ pretty but what makes her standout among actors is her intelligence and mastery for public speaking which is not as common. I think part of her appeal/ intimidation to some is her intelligence/ wittiness. Sadly I don’t think we will ever see another promotional run like the one for TKA from PEB.
It seems to me that PEB doesn’t seem interested in another season of EAW- maybe once she reads the new script she may feel differently. I support whatever she decides regarding EAW. We all know how hard and lonely it was for PEB shooting EAW and how much stress she endured. Sometimes they ruin a show with a second season, I couldn’t finish Uncanny Counter’s second season and I really liked the first season. There was news a few months ago that the writer of EAW has started writing the second season. The director of EAW has stated he is willing to do another season and has done multiple seasons on his other show, Dr. Romantic. Just some thoughts I had….Totally agree. PEB is intelligent and articulate. She can be intimidating especially to the boys. Probably why she hasn't had a BF for a long time. hahaha.
Care to share the clips you are referring to? I am interested.
"Sadly I don’t think we will ever see another promotional run like the one for TKA from PEB. " Are you referring to a promotional run in radio shows, interviews , YT and mags? Because those are the ones I am familiar with? Plus, one press con before the show aired? Am I missing anything?
EAW
I think she already signed the contract for EAW Season 2 (S2). I could be wrong. Also, I think they upped her salary to accept EAW S2. THEY SHOULD. Because she probably did not want to do S2 anyway. I read that she also accepted CAD because the fliming of CAD would be done, once EAW S2 begins. I also read they were waiting for KTO. UGH!!!!!!!! That guy took advantage of PEB's acting skills.
The only disadvantage I see of not supporting PEB if EAW S2 does air.......... is that if it is a FLOP. PEB will no longer be the GOLDEN GOOSE that lays the GOLDEN EGG. Production companies, PDs and writers may NOT totally shun her but she may loose her WINNING STREAK. Now, obviously sometimes even our favorite actors and actresses may take on roles we may not like. But that is totally different from not being cast anymore because PEB's project was an utter failure and FLOP. Highly unlikely. But like you mentioned second Season 2's may be HIT and MISS.
Just my opinion, though.
I don't know, I just do NOT want PEB to be labeled a FAILURE if EAW S2 is GREEN LIT and we don't watch her. PEB will be carrying the show and it would be a blow to her career if it was NOT successful. Poor PEB!!!!!!
Of course, we watch PEB for PEB's sake. But if EAW S2 has a really, really, really,really horrible script (I doubit it, Moon Ji Won the scriptwriter is great). Then that is a totally different story.
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On 10/19/2023 at 10:00 AM, MimiSchu said:
Oh, how lovely, thank you for that, much appreciated ❤️. I would like to add that I am also really fond of you and your postings here. You really contributed to the reactivation of this thread, as it was in some sort of hibernation before you joined it :-)
Awwwwwww! Thank you for the kind words my friend.
Long Live RoBin!!!!!! hahaha
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15 minutes ago, mktgkat said:
I have only seen shorts... I havent seen longer vids of the presscon yet... soooo excited for this diva!!!
Oh my gosh!!!!!!! And that is LIVE!!!!! Thank you for THIS my friend!!!!!
I remember she said previously that singing was something that she was afraid to do or something like that!!!
But knowing PEB, she will tackle anything she fears to overcome it. AND SHE ALWAYS DELIVERS!!!!
Truly a DIVA!!!!!!!
17 hours ago, Yuen10 said:Hi everyone, I am sharing that KSW also just like WJA recent post so I don’t think based on his like on JBA’s post it doesn’t all much.
One of the staff. I think her IG name is World…something..shared slot of BTS of TKA and has also a good relationship with KSW and PEB. She gave me the impression that she adores them both when they are together
Thank you Yuen for this information!
Yes, back in the previous pages. Maybe, beginning 70 (?). They talked about this TKA staff who calls herself/himself WORLD. She seems to be shipping these two the most. hahahaha
17 hours ago, MimiSchu said:I think that he once said that Choco is living at his parent’s house because he is almost never home. So it is probably not the cat waiting for him :-)
I believe that his home is very precious to him, probably because he needs to spend so much time away from it. Also, being a celebrity, home must mean safe place. That‘s why so many celebrities declare themselves as home persons and KSW repeated several times that his dream holiday would be just staying at home, watching Netflix all day and ordering food :-)
"Also, being a celebrity, home must mean a safe place."
Wow! How deep and profound! That is so true! Home is where your heart is. I love you MimiSchu!!!!!!
Oh didn't know that. Makes sense. If you are always filming and gone, who will take care of Choco? At least, in his parents home they will surely take care of him.
Yes, he said that many times. He will just stay home, not wash, movie/show marathons and NOT do anything. hahahaha
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On 10/12/2023 at 8:44 AM, Yuen10 said:
I do find that both PEB and KSW has set values where they cherish the small happiness of each day and each day doing what they love. It’s a complex and competitive industry they are in and it’s a brilliant way to protect themselves from disappointment as well as find a happy way of living. Simplicity is the key. If both have mindsets to be content with each small happiness they may naturally end up with lacking less. Just a thought
didn’t KSW in one of the BTS say after he was done filming and can go home to his little happiness. I read to somewhere and couldn’t find the clip. Perhaps choco his cat, perhaps something else.
Yuen, I just wanted to go back to the comment you posted on 10/12/23.
If you watch Hanna Volume Up TKA radio interview below of RoBIn beginning 14:28. This is the first time I have heard the term "small happiness" from PEB. At least, while interviewing together with Rowoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hgPmS4udkQ
So, I would like to think this "small happiness" term started in the Volume Up interview. And both of them have used the term frequently after this. So, it is possible that after the Tomorrow filming when Rowoon said that he was glad filming was done and he can go home to his "small happiness"; that he meant PEB.
Because I would call my cat my pet but not necessarily my "small happiness". But that's just me. hahaha
On 10/18/2023 at 11:15 AM, MimiSchu said:So excited, can‘t wait :-)
Beautiful.
Can't help but think that the official posters of PEB is always focused on her or her character. NOT on any love interest or any ML. She can carry a show to success without a man, I guess? At least the 3 official posters since I have known her. 1) TKA 2) EAW and now 3) CAD. (not talking about different variations of different posters) but most of the advertised, official posters.
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17 hours ago, sydneygirl2000 said:
HELLO .. apology in advance for my double standard view. I am ok for Rowoon to do bed scenes, he does it with so much tenderness, respect and care for his FL. I think FLs trust him as a pro actor & gentleman thats why they agreed.
NOW - I can’t imagine PEB in a bed scene with any other ML except Rowoon and not even with him.
AND I can imagine PEB agreeing for him to do it but as a considerate GF, she won’t do it for the sake of her BF & relationship seeing as she has no need to do it to advance her career. She is made, a legend already..
IF you guys read the first 20-30 pages of this site, you’ll find PEB does follow Rowoon. Even if he is younger in age and acting career, she respects Rowoon’s ideas etc .. he matches her mentally. Rowoon is the man in the relationship .. SHE ALLOWS HIM to take the lead hahaha .. she understands as the man, he needs to advance his career and in SK bolder roles are more acceptable with men.
Agreed, Sydney.
That is true Sydney. She allows him to hold her hand, put his hand on her shoulder, get close to her, pair off with her in between shoots. I remember the scene when PEB, Rowoon, PEB's wife and that girl who loves Jung Ji Un were all in between takes in the palace plaza. PEB's punishment was to take videos of the cast. After some time. Rowoon suggested her to stop filming and take a picture with the whole group instead. She immediately agreed. She is meek, kind and humble that she would allow Rowoon to lead.
And yes, she listens to Rowoon especially his philosophical views of life (that sometimes she has to put the "brakes" on him). But I would think, Rowoon also listens to her in terms of the acting industry. I remember one of Rowoon's ideal type is that he has to learn something from her. I would like to think that Rowoon learns a lot from PEB because she has been in the industry long.
And NTTD did mention that in the TKA Blu Ray DVD, Rowoon said that PEB influenced him more off-camera than on-camera. In what way was he inffluenced? May be in various and disparate ways.
Let's just say they BOTH influence each other. And it is a GOOD INFLUENCE. hahaha
Thanks for your thoughts.
13 hours ago, woobin said:Thank you all for your insights. They all make sense
I can’t keep up and reply to all of you but thank you, I love reading all of them.
Look at our litol giant! Wow!
Awwwwwww! She is finally coming out of her shell! Love that she is wearing sligthly sexy clothes with slightly sexy poses. hahahaha.
Yay to our Litol Giant!!!!!!
16 hours ago, Yuen10 said:Yes I love that BTS. It was so sweet both their reactions and so genuine, so lovely, I don’t know how it cannot put a smile on anyone’s face and people cheer for them. Even when PEB was getting of his lap, KSW still had his hand on her back. He could have dropped it. What a gentleman.
About that whole steamy scene in DWY @Pen G, I guess from observation, he seems to have set that boundary between filming and personal life and that is enough for me to no longer dwell on trying to figure out why he did it. That scene shocked me at first I must admit but after cooling down and being rational about it I am Ok with no longer questioning. It was a just part of the drama and that is enough for me. I think he demonstrated that a clear line was there through his interactions with JBA and I believe in his professionalism and his ability to be in control of that situation. With that being said, I no longer need to know ‘why’ nor have to try to make sense of that scene but is completely content with the fact that 1)for sake of the drama it was a scene that was there and 2)for the Robin ship, to me, he was clearly professional and to me there was nothing that crossed the line with JBA. No butterflies, giggles or blushes. Most of the hyped scenes I watched in the BTS to me it was a part of the rehearsals for obviously touchy kissy scenes.
I am really happy KSW gained further recognition and popularity with DWY and all his hard work paid off. Now I am actually really looking forward to his new drama and to enjoy his comedic side minus all the extra that was in DWY. I am so excited about CAD also and really like that casts
Thank you for your thoughts!!!!!
EVERYONE Let's make sure Rowoon's MM is #1 on Mon-Tues and PEB's CAD is #1 on Sat-Sun STRAIGHT for all the weeks.
What I plan to do is watch CAD Sat and Sun at 9 am (US time) and then MM Mon-Tues at 9 am (US Time). Then, I will rewatch episodes within that week the Episodes were aired because these are going to ROCK-STAR AWESOME!
CAN NOT WAIT FOR MM (this will be tooooo funny) AND CAD. COME NOW OCTOBER 28TH AND OCTOBER 30TH!!!!!!!!! COME NOW!!!!!!!!
hahaha. So excited for BOTH OF THEM!!!
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On 10/15/2023 at 6:42 AM, daisy D said:
Hi,
Just want to make us smile again. I can't stop smiling watching them
"Just want to make us smile again. I can't stop smiling watching them"
Thank you for reminding us why we are all here.
46 minutes ago, MimiSchu said:
I just wanted to express that she is such an accomplished actor and she obviously loves her craft and storytelling so much. So if the script and story are great and the role development required it, she might step outside her comfort zone. I did not particularly mean bed scene, but intimate scene in general.And yes, that‘s exactly what I meant: his life, his choices. Same goes for her ❤️
Okay, noted. Thank you very much!
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10 minutes ago, MimiSchu said:
I have seen an enlightened version of the „bed scene“ and I can assure you that no body double has been used :-)I must admit that unlike some of you here I don‘t have any issues with this scene. It was beautifully done, especially with the use of lightning, and it merely lasted 60 seconds.
It just showed the ultimate bonding of two people that were longing for each other for a long period of time (300 years, according to the script :-)).In recent „another magazine“ interview KSW stated “I want to appeal to producers and directors – not just as a pretty face but able to show the full spectrum of emotions inside me, to portray the different types of people that exist in the world“. So I agree with your point number 6) about him wanting to tackle roles and dimensions of characters he has not previously done.
And yes, he‘s recently become bolder, which has also been shown by him choosing to portray a gay man in his cameo alongside his friend Ahn Hyo-seop in „A time called you“.
So I also agree with your statement about his choices being „A sort of Declaration of Independence“.And by the way, I am sure that also PEB wouldn’t turn down a script just because it contains an intimate scene. If she were convinced that it was important for the character development, then she would surely not basically refuse to do it…
Okay, thank you for your thoughts. Much appreciated.
And I guess even if PEB has NOT done bed scenes but has been very successful in her career for 26 years. Rowoon did say: "He is not PEB" in one of his Japan fan meets. So, I would think that even if he respects PEB , her career and her advice. Ultimately, he is the one that choses what he wants to do and the direction his acting career will take.
Really? You would think PEB will not say NO to a bed scene if it was needed for her characer? I can't imagine it. But possibly. Maybe, after she gets married. Maybe, she will get bolder and braver. hahaha
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30 minutes ago, Penny said:
This is the picture share by the uncle Lee Hwi:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXau6hwvoDl/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
These is the picture share by PEB, picture number 5
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXjf2AUBJD9/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
I have to find the interview, but I don't remember where Did I read it.
Yes, I miss Cherry too. Please Cherry come back.
Thanks Penny!
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16 hours ago, Wiz said:
Agreed
I would love to see PEB in a typical rom-com. The slightly cheesy but fun and harmless one where she can wear fabulous clothes. I would love for her to work with Jung Hae-In or Son Suk-ku or Wi Ha Jun or Ji Chang Wook. I would love to see her in an original Netflix series where they heavily promote her or a Disney + action series like Moving but not as violent. Fingers crossed she gets those opportunities in the future.
Pllleeeaaassseeee? No Disney + for PEB? We don't have Disney +. We only have Netflix because it fulfills ALL our national, local and international shows. Please?
Plus, that is the reason why we ditched cable. We were paying $110/month and that was back in 2007!!!!!!! hahaha.
But for Netflix, for the price of almost one movie ticket, we can watch as MANY or as FEW shows as we want. We can fast forward if we don't like some scenes. And we can go back or reverse for scenes we want to watch again. And there is a Netflix Library, that we can go to and re-watch over and over and over again. LIKE TKA. hahahaha.
2 hours ago, Penny said:https://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=drama_new3&no=12188065
According to the post, DWY was not so successful in SK. At the end I think that all of us have the similar opinion. They have also compared with the audience rate of TKA. As all of you commented, the sucess of one TV project is not only depended on how many kiss or sex scenes, it´s more depend in each single moment, how you can impact to the viewer. These days I rewatch some epic scene of TKA and WYW. And you will feel lot of impact moment combining the shooting environment, the ost and the actors expression; in these last most of the effort is come from PEB and how she influence to her ML. Therefore they use to practice and make some adaption, instead of only listen and follow the orders of PD nim.
Agree that PEB also take her time to select a good story. And Rowoon should learn about that
Strange that all the CAD promotional posters are not indicated that the drama is related to romance topic. Maybe there are suprises at the end.
My delulu and thought. I always think that first Rowoon was fan of PEB before TKA, he mention he watch DYLB, this drama was broadcast moreless at the same time as YWNK, so in that moment both drama was competing. Again the JTBC DTLB is more permitted the kiss and bed scene, but FL seems to be not suit to Rowoon, finally the chemestry was not so great. In the case of DYLB, eventhout the story is very slow, it impact a lot to the audience with different painful scenes and some romatic kiss.
This is the reason that Rowoon intends approach to PEB in all the single moments, even is not give any chance to other actors to be close to PEB. According one of the interview to the actor who was the bad guy ( uncle of Lee Hwi ) the only way to approach PEB is try to talk with the make up team. And also there are one picture in IG where this guy want to make a picture with PEB and stay in her side, that inmediately Rowoon ask him to change their position their position. All these signal is make me believe that Rowoon is fully in love with her. The point is we have to wait the moment, that PEB decide to put in first position their relationship in front of her acting carrer.
Yes, people in this forum have mentioned that Rowoon was/is a BINGO even before anyone was/is a BINGO. hahahaha.
Yes, DYLB was what they call a "SLOW BURN" show but PEB's acting was phenomenal in that show that she won an award. Rowoon said he watched Hot Stove League (PEB won an award for this show and it was popular in SK) and DYLB. But he said during the W Korea Drawing Interview that he immensely enjoyed DYLB.
Yes, every chance Rowoon could get he was always next to PEB. Even in the TKA BTS where they were rehearsing the scene with NYS. Not sure if that was the scene where Rowoon and PEB were fighting over a notebook or the scene wherein NYS protected PEB from the laundry water being throw out. But it seems to be the scene wherein NYS was trying to protect PEB from the laundry water. Because, the BTS wherein all three of them were there and fighting over the notebook was a totally different scenery/frame. Anyway, Rowoon was cleaning his Noona's hat. Rowoon was clearly BOXING OUT NYS. He wasn't even supposed to be in that scene where NYS was protecting LEE Hwi from laundry water? Right? hahaha.
He was always trying to get PEB's attention. It is soooooo funny: Rowoon's actions to get close to and get PEB's attention.
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Really? Could you please post the picture here of that guy that wanted to take a picture with PEB but Rowoon changed places/positions with him? I would appreciate it very much! Thank you for this!!!
17 hours ago, Yuen10 said:I noticed the shyness too and based on KSW he definitely doesn’t seem shy with those scenes on SWNK so it only tells us one reason why he is shy and has butterflies. He was even biting his lips after the sunset kiss. Anyways my delulu acting up again
I remember in the Hanna radio show, I think PEB mentioned she maybe be ready to try a romcom. I got surprised hearing that and wondered what changed and made her ready
To be honest, if we really think we understand KSW, I think that bed scene is something, KSW may be very shy about. He hasn’t talked about it. Maybe he doesn’t want to. I am not sure.
He besties did talk about his experience in BP and how him and the FL were comfortable with each other and trusted each other so they agreed to film that scene.I wonder how it works sometimes lol. I do remember some restaurant posted a picture of KSW eating there and shortly, it was removed so something is definitely happening. Has other other couples be validated? I am not familiar with dispatch and how good they are to the truth
Maybe, Penny can help with that question. And where is Cherry? Why isn't she posting??? Help us out Cherry. Where have you been Cherry. You are so helpful, too Cherry!!! hahahaha.
So Penny, where the other couples that Dispatch said they were going to reveal.......... finally revealed? That post was posted on Feb 2023. Have dispatched revealed the other couples yet?
Well, if they show confirmed photos that these are the people they say they are. Then it must be the truth. Right? Pictures and vids don't lie (unless very blurry and unwatchable). hehehe.
15 hours ago, woobin said:Hahaha same here I was like why just now??? I’ve watched EAW on 10/2022 as well and I was so clueless that there was TKA ahead of it. Damn!
Let our imagination entertain us
They might go to Disneyland, nothing is impossible hahaha who would not want to go to Disneyland with your “special friend”! She’s so adorable, isn’t she? She seemed so innocent yet so feminine, so talented yet so humble. That made her even more beautiful in my (and Rowoon’s) eyes
Re: tweet about dating news - the owner of that account who retwitted was not surprised at all, sounded like k netz and a lot of people were already suspecting that. And yes, same thoughts, I guess agencies have that power to stop the rumors, as you said “catch-and-kill” the story type.
@Pen G You have to check The Negotion and Crash Landing on You so you’d meet the older version of RoBin
Hyun Bin and Son Yejin LOL. Just a short story about them since we mentioned “dating news” here. At that time (after their 1st drama) they were rumored to be dating but both agencies kept mum about it. Just like Rowoon, Hyun Bin’s personal wish after The Negotiation was to work with SYJ again then came Crash Landing on You! They were spotted in the US doing grocery together but still no confirmation from both sides. Then one day, Dispatch released a photo of them - HB in the van with SJY about to get in the van on her golf attire (maybe they received a “go” signal to do so hahaha) WHAT IF???? (yes I’m manifesting) Another project for our RoBin is on the way??? Even last one (please for heaven sake!) before they hide and not share anything with us
Agree 5,367,149%.
If I was a MAN, I would definitely want to marry PEB.
If I was a WOMAN, I would definitely WANT to BE PEB. hehehhehe. Such a great woman. What an ANGEL.
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13 hours ago, Yuen10 said:
Here is my thoughts: I still feel strongly that they are together and that they took their time after finishing their next project after TKA to establish that relationship foundation. I believe they both support each other on their next project (CAD and DWY) meaning KSW is ok with PEB being away most of the time on an island and PEB understanding the demands of DWY. I truly believe they have reached that mutual understanding. For KSW I feel he shared a lot with PEB during TKA and that KSW probably really touch PEB with his sincerely and humbleness considering he is a visual in SF9. His caring towards all staff members and passion towards acting probably really touched her and especially how he may have tried to help her with some burden and making her feel not so alone during filming really opens up a female’s heart. A sense of security, being able to lean and also rely on someone and being able to talk to the person like a good friend.
My delulu self believes that they took this long to have casting news was they planned to take that time to establish a solid relationship foundation. I understand that KSW has gone through a terrible rock bottom time and PEB was probably burned out after several back to back filming. Perhaps the time he spent together with PEB influenced his decisions or actually validated his decision to take better care of himself and follow his passion. Anyhow, this is purely my made up story of them.
Yes, I remember PEB said during one of EAW NF promotional games (July 15, 2022) that final filming ends on August 15, 2022. She seemed the ONLY one to be happy that EAW filming would end. hahahaha
And for Rowoon's Tomorrow the show ended on May 21, 2022.
Aside from just Fan Meetings for PEB Asia-wide and Rowoon fan meetings from July to Augu 2022 in Japan. And one HOW S4 casting. The both of them had no real, time consuming filming of shows. They seemed to take a long break.
14 hours ago, woobin said:Hahaha same here I was like why just now??? I’ve watched EAW on 10/2022 as well and I was so clueless that there was TKA ahead of it. Damn!
Let our imagination entertain us
They might go to Disneyland, nothing is impossible hahaha who would not want to go to Disneyland with your “special friend”! She’s so adorable, isn’t she? She seemed so innocent yet so feminine, so talented yet so humble. That made her even more beautiful in my (and Rowoon’s) eyes
Re: tweet about dating news - the owner of that account who retwitted was not surprised at all, sounded like k netz and a lot of people were already suspecting that. And yes, same thoughts, I guess agencies have that power to stop the rumors, as you said “catch-and-kill” the story type.
@Pen G You have to check The Negotion and Crash Landing on You so you’d meet the older version of RoBin
Hyun Bin and Son Yejin LOL. Just a short story about them since we mentioned “dating news” here. At that time (after their 1st drama) they were rumored to be dating but both agencies kept mum about it. Just like Rowoon, Hyun Bin’s personal wish after The Negotiation was to work with SYJ again then came Crash Landing on You! They were spotted in the US doing grocery together but still no confirmation from both sides. Then one day, Dispatch released a photo of them - HB in the van with SJY about to get in the van on her golf attire (maybe they received a “go” signal to do so hahaha) WHAT IF???? (yes I’m manifesting) Another project for our RoBin is on the way??? Even last one (please for heaven sake!) before they hide and not share anything with us
Thank you!!!!! Some clarification. Sorry! I discovered EAW the week after in aired in 2022. So it was first aired on June 28, 2022. I watched it a week later. BUT I watched TKA a year later. It first aired on 10/11/2021. I watched TKA on about the third week of 10/2022. I saw the teaser but hesitated because I wasn't really sure about SK Historical Dramas. BUT NOW?????? I love SK historical dramas IF the main leads are Rowoon or PEB. hahahahhaha.
Okay, I know in this forum I am the odd-man (woman) out. I don't know or care to know about other SK actors and actresses. I am deeply sorry.
I googled that couple you mentioned. But my deepest apologies. I/we are not moved by this couple. Not in same way I am moved by the RoBin couple. You mentioned about a LIGHT emanating from RoBin couple. We don't feel or see the same LIGHT with that couple you just mentioned.
Does that mean I won't watch that Crash Landing On You in the future? Of course not. I will, if I want to be JUST ENTERTAINED and if I am really curious. But lately, for some reason at this point in my life/our lives, I/we want to watch shows that will 1) MOVE ME/US 2) HAVE MEANING or SOME LIFE LESSONS.
So, after EAW and TKA. I attempted to watch other SK shows that they said were good. I started to watch: 1) Little Women - stopped after Episode #2 2) Older ones like Bride of Habaek - stopped after Episode #3 3) K-2 - yeah, the first two episodes were interesting. Then I stopped watching. Could not finish that show.
The only ones that I could truly finish was 1) Unlocked 2) JUNG_E because these were just 1.5 hour films/movies to finish. hahaha
The only one that seems to hold promise to me is Crash Course in Romance because that involves MATH. And I love numbers. hahahaha.
In the end. These are my thoughts:
1) My time is precious. So I only waste/consume time on one couple - RoBin couple
2) RoBin couple is enough to keep me busy. Shipping is a time-consuming endeavor hahaha
3) Folks have different tastes and styles in shows. But we seem to ALL have ONE common factor - RoBin.
But, I will tell you. I will watch that CLOY if I have the time. Thank you so much for your thoughts!!! Much appreciated.
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15 hours ago, Yuen10 said:
I want to believe and will bank in this belief that the actors and actresses are well protected during these scenes especially it being on TV meaning it may look very romantic but they are protected and maybe he even used a body double to film this shots. It was dark and i don’t believe you even see his face but I only saw quick clips LOL. I think some of these scenes we may need to adjust to way we see KSW. He is now an actor and not an idol so he is free to push the limit of his roles unlike the probably more strict boundaries of an idol. I trust he purposely craved out Rowoon and kept KSW safe for this reason.
In terms is jealousy. My delulu self tells me this. For DWY, PEB doesn’t have to watch it but his instagram page will be difficult for her to stay off of so he has minimal activities with his FL on it and drew the line between drama and instagram in way to not make it an eyesore for PEB or who ever his special someone is
I sometimes wonder what KSW thinks about the bed scene. I think JBA is a very season actress on all kinds of scenes. Perhaps it’s not even him doing the scene. Just a thought
Thank you very much!
Yes, I understand the HOW. 1) Body Double 2) Dark - it probably was not Rowoon 3) they probably discussed it off-camera 4) shooting was not as romantic as it came out on TV 4) actors/actresses are protected
My question is WHY? Why would he "cross that line" and do or at least imply that he was doing a BED scene?
Especially, if PEB whom he respects, admires, asks advice from and looks up to; has not done a SINGLE BED SCENE in her career. But is very, very successful in her career.
Shy About the Bed Scene
Yes, he seems to be shy about the bed scene. He has not talked about it. He probably will in the future, but not now when it is still fresh.
So, if he is shy about it. Why did he do it in the first place? Was he forced to do it? Did his contract state that he was to follow the script no matter what? He respected the PD nim and the scriptwriter, that he felt he needed to please them? Did they think it would result to more viewing hours? Did Rowoon think that if he did not cooperate, he would be blacklisted by the production company, the PD nim and the writer? Was he taking ONE for the team? He is not as big as PEB yet therefore he can NOT be as picky as PEB? Or ALL of the above?
Wiz has given me her thoughts. I just wanted to know yours? Thank you for your thoughts.
15 hours ago, Wiz said:I will say that I am a modest person, so I tend to not enjoy watching bed scenes in general. One of the reasons I like K-dramas and K-Romance is because they were previously very conservative in that respect, and you would only have some mild kissing. You rarely saw bed scenes or if you did, they were very bland. I did not enjoy scenes in King of the Land for the same reason. From his previous dramas, Rowoon doesn't seem to be awkward with intimate scenes/kissing scenes and was very professional. They likely had discussions (off cam) prior to the scene to get more comfortable. We all know that the BTS cameras only show a tiny snapshot of what goes into making a show.
I am not sure why Rowoon felt he needed to do a bed scene at this stage of his career. I can't imagine the stress that these actors endure because they feel that have to keep up with their peers or keep up with what directors and writers feel they need to do to succeed. I agree that he may want to be viewed in a different light and have more options for roles. I will say that PEB at the stage in her career where she seems to be very selective about her projects (which I admire and frustrates me because I want to see her in more projects, LOL). PEB has shared in the past that she does not have much real-life experience with relationship situations like bed scenes, so she is more hesitant or uncomfortable to act out those scenes. Maybe Rowoon is trying to demonstrate his versatility by tackling roles and dimensions of characters that he has not previously done?
Exactly. The reason we soured on some US shows on NF was because all these shows were just SEX and Violence. Didn't watch that King the Land or whatever it is called.
When I discovered EAW. Wow! I was floored. No sex. No violence. Jam packed with meaning and significance. Par excellance acting. Totally intelligent show that blew my brains out with out-of-this-world legal cases, I have never seen. We hope and pray that South Korean shows do NOT follow after US footsteps of just sex and violence. Or arbitrarily just use sex and violence on shows.
So your thoughts:
1) keep up with others/peers who are doing it also
2) he may want to be viewed in a different light
3) have more options of roles (like more sex roles, hahahaha)
4) did not want to displease the PD nim and writer
5) he can NOT be as picky as PEB because he is NOT as big as PEB yet
6) tackling roles and dimensions of characters he has not previously done
Maybe, this was also Rowoon's TESTAMENT of declaring himself as FREE to do what he wants. A sort of Declaration of Independence?
PS YEEESSSSSSSS! That is why we want CAD to be #1 on NF week after week after week after week after week after ... Because then she will be given more projects by NF. And the more projects NF gives her. THE MORE WE CAN SEE HER!!!! Yay!
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23 minutes ago, woobin said:
Whether they are officially a couple or just “close friends with mutual understanding”, I’m sure they’ve talked about the kissing/sexy scenes. Based on how they describe their “friendship”, they confide and share those kinds of worries with each other. I think Rowoon is empathethic especially to his favorite people, but both are professional actors so they would definitely understand the demand of one’s role. Definitely, there’s jealousy LOL. I couldn’t even watch those scenes myself how much more PEB
but I’d like to think it’s a healthy kind of jealousy and not due to insecurity.
I’ve seen some bts of those kisses (OMG with that cotton candy kiss scene!!!) I must say they were professionally done, I didn’t feel the giggles, “goosies” effect and tickling kind of feeling from him unlike in TKA. Or maybe it was just me(?) anyone who felt the same?
I love that @Pen G his image of being a MAN and not a BOY anymore. A sign of growth in his career!
I know I mentioned (and other people in this forum, too) that his bed scene would launch him into a more mature career.
But another side of me is asking: PEB made it through 26 years in the industry and have won many awards and recognition. And the much coveted Daesang. Without even ONE BED scene. PEB matured in her career without sex scenes. I know she is being super modest. STILL. Is maturity in an acting career gauged based on sex/kiss or bed scenes? I don't know?
I know Rowoon admires PEB. If he were to emulate PEB and get advice from her. Why does he think a BED scene will catapult his career? If PEB won many awards without it?
I don't mean that DWY is not successful. But if Tomorrow is any indication, Tomorrow on NF had much more viewing hours than DWY. And Tomorrow did not have ANY kissing, touching, bed scene or any love interest? Of course, everything is in hindsight. They (PD nim and Rowoon) probably thought that a BED SCENE would attract more viewing hours. Obviously, it did not (compared to Tomorrow). On the other hand, the PD nim and production team probably thought that 120 million hours with a BED scene is success for them? Who knows? Right? But I am a numbers person. And numbers don't lie?
Am I out of line here?
Anybody can chime in.
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12 minutes ago, woobin said:
Whether they are officially a couple or just “close friends with mutual understanding”, I’m sure they’ve talked about the kissing/sexy scenes. Based on how they describe their “friendship”, they confide and share those kinds of worries with each other. I think Rowoon is empathethic especially to his favorite people, but both are professional actors so they would definitely understand the demand of one’s role. Definitely, there’s jealousy LOL. I couldn’t even watch those scenes myself how much more PEB
but I’d like to think it’s a healthy kind of jealousy and not due to insecurity.
I’ve seen some bts of those kisses (OMG with that cotton candy kiss scene!!!) I must say they were professionally done, I didn’t feel the giggles, “goosies” effect and tickling kind of feeling from him unlike in TKA. Or maybe it was just me(?) anyone who felt the same?
I love that @Pen G his image of being a MAN and not a BOY anymore. A sign of growth in his career!
hahaha. Don't know what that cotton candy kiss scene or the bed scene are about because I stopped watching. Not because of the Kiss Porn or anything else. It is just I got so tired with the tired, old, overused tropes like the Rich Girl Slapping Poor Girl. Oh my gosh! I could not stand it anymore. Just my personal opinion. Doesn't have to be anybody's. hehehe.
Agree. Whether a couple or just have a mutual understanding. They probably talk a lot.
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On 10/14/2023 at 8:56 PM, woobin said:
Chemistry is indeed an understatement. No words can describe how I felt when I first watched TKA more so the bts. Even how many times I go back and watch TKA. I’ve watched few bts of other dramas and they were nothing compared to what they showed behind TKA scenes. It was cautious yet genuine. They were respectful of each other’s boundaries but what I and everyone saw was a natural flow of “feelings”(?) They’re careful not to step in the “line” yet they seemed to be at home and at peace when they’re together. Looking from afar it looked like a piece of a puzzle missing then it was finally found to complete it.
They “know” each other. PEB knows when KSW’s nervous and when something’s cringey for him while KSW knows PEB when she lies, that she couldn’t lie. I guess that’s a step deeper for a friendship between two people.
How I wish I knew about TKA in 2021! I could have joined this forum early on LOL and I could have ordered the bluray
I’ve read somewhere that KSW will be back in Japan for his fan meeting. Strange that it’s on Christmas Eve. He must have planned this ahead so he could spend Christmas there too (with his family? love of his life?) LOL just teasing my imagination and whoever reads this post.
Same here. I kick myself daily for NOT watching TKA when it aired. I discovered EAW then TKA, a year after on 10/2022.
I read here that PEB wants to take a vacation at Disney. Maybe, they will ALL go to Disney Japan on or before his fan meeting on 12/24?????? It can happen it Delulu World you know??? hahaha.
13 minutes ago, woobin said:Thank you. I love reading this thread and appreciate each and everyone for sharing their thoughts and feelings about RoBin.
Indeed, both exudes a different kind of light and energy that I don’t normally see from “love teams” or any actor or actress. It really depends on what’s in the inside I guess, and what kind of a person he/she is. Pretty sure you all get what I mean. Hyun Bin and Son Yejin when together are like that, they were a power couple, too and still are.
Don't know who Hyun Bin and Son Yejin are? So sorry? Only faithful to RoBin. hahahaha.
But yes, we appreciate your intelligent and well grounded thoughts!
Btw, I saw your post about the Couples to be revealed on Dispatch. They talked about that extensively here on this forum. With people stating: "Roun and PEB?............. Pretend to be shocked!". hahaha
That was Feb 2023 and Dispatch hasn't revealed their evidence yet. Unless, FNC and Namoo bought out Dispatch pictures to "catch-and-kill" the story. Either that or the talent agencies threatened to sue Dispatch? hahahaha.
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32 minutes ago, Yuen10 said:
Hahaha @Pen G are you kidding me!! I love reading your posts. But I guess during that little period I had been really busy with work so I end up skimming a lot of of them.
hahahahhaha.
I love you Yuen!!!!!!!
If you don't mind? Are you in Asia, Europe or the Americas? If you don't want to disclose. I will understand. hehe.
19 minutes ago, Wiz said:Hi Pen,
I understand, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts about conformity and respect, you made excellent points. We are all entitled to our opinions, feelings, thoughts and ideas. I like hearing other people's thoughts, opinions and ideas especially when they differ from my own because it gives me an opportunity to self-reflect and learn something new. It is nice to have a place where we can do this in a kind and respectful manner while supporting our RoBin shipping, Lol.
I love you and your thoughts, Wiz!!!!!
On 10/14/2023 at 10:15 PM, woobin said:He’s got this strong values I guess from his family. I’ve watched HOW when he said he’s very close to his family, he talks to his mom when things are difficult and wanted to spend more time with his dad. He said that his dad told him to think/imagine how he would want himself as a dad (in the future). I’m glad to have seen that clip from HOW, I got to know a bit of him personally. I feel that he was taught and raised well, I’m sure that’s why he knows what he wants, he knows his heart and he wants to live his life in his own terms, for people to see him in a deeper sense as an actor and how good as a person he is. He’s such a neat freak, too! He’s reserved yet talkative in the right environment, gentle and humble same as PEB. They surely will go places and achieve more!
I agree. They are a Power Couple. Individually they are good. But TOGETHER they can achieve so much more. Together they can help more people and their LIGHT will SHINE by a factor of 110x (like you mentioned).
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4 minutes ago, Wiz said:
I am in the United States but I was not born here and I have traveled quite a bit, even to SK…. I think consent is an important conversation no matter where you are in the world. I think that even without knowing the exact number of kissing scenes or intimate scenes that the actor should be able to voice their concerns if they are uncomfortable doing something on set or that could be viewed as a form of coercion… I hope that in any country that has a film industry that these conversations are happening and that there are some protections in place for actors while they are on set to comfortably voice their concerns and state their boundaries when acting out intimate scenes. I know that may not be the case but it should be… just my thoughts. I always appreciate the dialogue and conversation.
Same here. Asian but now lives in the US.
Agree. But being Asian. I think the desire to conform, not rattle the cages especially if the PD is senior and more experienced supersedes any right to voice their concerns. In our culture (Philippines), because they are afraid of confrontation or to offend someone. They will say YES even if they mean NO. Not sure, if it has changed through the years?
Likewise, nice to have intelligent convos about seemingly mundane things. Thanks as ALWAYS!!!
14 minutes ago, MimiSchu said:In HOW KSW shared that when he was little his dad asked him what kind of father he wants him to be. And KSW replied that he wants his father to be a like a friend to him.
Ahhh! Got it!!!! Thank you kindly as always!!!
Thanks for all your thoughts and input on this forum. I appreciate and respect your even-keeled thoughts and opinion.
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4 minutes ago, Wiz said:
Hello Pen G,
Thanks for sharing, I agree that in any industry/ country networking is important and used SK as an example to illustrate the point. I think that we tend to forget that actors work in the film industry and they have maintain good relationships with a variety of people in order to be successful. I think social media is one of the ways that actors connect with their agents, staff, peers, future colleagues, fans etc. I also agree that kissing scenes are directed and choreographed. The type of kiss must fit the story and you must have consent from the actors regarding what they are comfortable doing on film while maintaining professional boundaries on a film set.
Agree. I think you are also in the US. But there has been some debate here in this forum about how much an actor knows about their kissing scenes or bed scenes prior to the show. Folks here state that in SK they only get a portion of the script. So, maybe once they sign the contract with that Production Company they are on the hook for whatever happens as they slowly get the rest of the script? hahaha.
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On 10/14/2023 at 6:40 PM, woobin said:
Hi! It’s been a while, been quiet in my own bubble just lurking and reading your shared thoughts here. It’s good to see other’s point of views, you make me think more from a broader perspective. Thank you
Isn’t a good sign that KSW can now follow, like and do his own thing in his instagram? In my opinion, it’s much more healthy knowing that he’s more in control now of his following, liking and commenting to whoever, whenever he wishes to. It’s his social media anyway and I respect him being that way regardless of his reasons. If I support a person, I trust his judgements and his choices. In the first place, I would not support a person had I seen a red flag, in the same way that my choice (of supporting whoever) is a reflection of my own choices.
I admire people who have a solid ground of their values and what they want, who are not scared of what people would think and say about them while remaining humble and kind. And I’d like to think KSW and PEB have such quality based on what I’ve read about them, their answers on their interviews and my own observation.
I find KSW wiser than his years same as PEB. And together, they glow differently as if their light combined illuminates my own light within. It’s just so positive that I always want to see them together - just proves how strong their chemistry is. And they’re aware of it, coming from the fishes’ own mouth proves that they could also see and feel it. Perfect chemistry as they said, intense! I’ve seen a clip where Rowoon was asked how he would rate his and JBA’s chemistry, and I was surprised when he answered 50 out of 100, the other 50 would then be filled by the fans LOL what a bold yet honest response! As PEB can’t lie so as KSW
Whatever’s happening behind their social media, with all that they’re going through beautiful, horrible, happy or sad, I’m sure they got each others back. I think and I feel they have mutual respect to each others own growth in their career and that they have a solid friendship, special or romantic, I don’t care, as long as they remain “good” friends. Any strong romantic relationship grounds and started from friendship (I can strongly say this as I’m married to my “boy” friend 20 years now
) SO I pray for their friendship to grow more and maybe blossom to a more beautiful relationship in the future (if not yet bloomed lol) But before that, I really wish and pray for another drama together, even a last one before they come out and share a beautiful news with us
Much love and light to all of you here!
On point! Can’t compare
The professional KSW (DWY) from his normal self (TKA). So much difference. I’m sure everone can relate to such kind of feeling. There’s a difference between working-while-being-at-home-with-good-people and merely working-professionally-with-good-people. He surely knows how to draw the line, he’s a private person. But would you agree that it’s more of how you feel, what’s in your heart that holds you or makes you cross the line?
Love this! So hard to explain that you have to see the difference with their behavious for you to fully understand
You don’t only see it, but you can really feel it. It makes you feel things!
"And together, they glow differently as if their light combined illuminates my own light within. It’s just so positive that I always want to see them together - just proves how strong their chemistry is. "
Yes, RoBin "chemistry" transcends "chemistry". It is beyond "chemistry". But what you said about their LIGHT. WOW! That is the most profound truth I have read today! Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
On 10/14/2023 at 10:07 AM, Yuen10 said:Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I too found his actions a bit erratic lately. Perhaps he might be is getting a bit backlash for completely not liking JBA’s post or comments.
From the BTS I don’t see anything that indicates more than colleagues who trust each other and they are in character.
My delulu thoughts are, if I was PEB, I would not watch DWY if I was PEB and I’m in a relationship with him. From one of the talk shows he was in he did express that he would be jealous of his girlfriend for kissing scene and probably not watch those scenes. I think he would think twice for his girlfriend as well and be considerate and protect her from what she might be hurt watching. She can choose not to watch DWY or he can for-warn her not too but she may not be able to stay off his instagram page. His instagram page outlives his drama so he is being sensitive to he posts on his instagram page. Having said that, he cannot completely disregard JBA cause that would also be disrespectful.
But I get the confusion and I can’t even use the excuse that he is too busy because in he is commenting everywhere else.
since DWY is selling the couple and it’s chemistry, he could have pushed that to another level by creating BTS chemistry too but his Promotions and BTS still to me seems very proper.
Another thought is because he has back to back drama, he might not be able to push the marketing for DWY because it may affect viewership and shipping of his next couple in the Matchmaker.
Just some thoughts.
i think by the way that his instagram actions have been quite unstable, it is probably himself actually managing it and deliberately doing things including deliberately having PEB has the only female there for now because I think if a manager is managing it would be as sporadic
I actually thought about the same thing. If he said in that talk show that he would get jealous if his GF had kissing scenes. If he and PEB are indeed in some kind of relationship. Shouldn't Rowoon be sensitive to PEB's feelings, too? And he didn't EVEN just have kissing scenes. He had a BEDROOM SCENE. WOAH!
So these things come to mind:
1) He told PEB and forewarned her about his bed scene (like what you said).
2) He is probably NOT in that kind of a relationship yet with PEB.
3) PEB does not care what he does when he works. She is confident about herself that she is not that insecure. And she trusts Rowoon.
4) RoBin talked about it and they agreed that this would launch his career as a MAN and no longer a BOY.
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On 10/14/2023 at 7:36 AM, rnie said:
Hi it's me again.. I've been thinking a lot these days, I don't know if I should share my thoughts but since it has stucked in my head I just decide to go for it.
Until now I have to say that Rowoon makes me really confused. He is the one that get me on this ship and I will never doubt about his affection towards Eunbin, but he has been behaved really weird on social media since June this year:
1. First of all is the following thing on Instagram: He used to follow only the members of SF9, which was totally reasonable because I saw lots of idol-actor doing it. But then he unfollowed all of them, which made all the Fantasys really panicked. And if I'm not mistaken then just one (or two) day later he re-followed them, and bonus all his past and present co-stars. Maybe Ahn Hyo Seop was the exception because they had never collapsed until that time. This is the very first time I've seen a SK celebrity has a kind of action. I have watched K-drama since I was in 6th-grade and I started using instagram in 8th-grade, and I have to say this is very unusual. All K-actors and idols I know usually remain very stable with their following list. Some follow others (their members, collegues, friends,..) but IN THE FIRST PLACE, some don't follow anyone. With actors, they start following their partner right when the drama is filming (like Chae Jonghyeop, Kang Tae Oh,.. follows Eunbin; Park Hyung Sik and Han Hyo Joo follow each other, Jung Hae In follows Jisoo,..). Like I've said before, I can't even understand why RW made that change? I mean yeah, it is absolutely normal with a normal person, we can follow then unfollow then re-follow whoever we want to blah blah,... But he is a celeb! Especially SK celeb, not Chinese or Thai. His account has millions of followers already, and he should aware all of his actions will cause attention!2. His interaction on instagram is very weird: well until today I have no doubt about it.
- He has no interaction on instagram with his past co-stars and then suddenly followed them and went to every place to left likes and comments. At that time, he still had the contract as an idol with FNC so I don't think we can blame the company for this.
- In the whole time DWY was promoted, he didn't like any of Jo Bo Ah posts even the one with couple magazines or teasers; but I saw he liked various of other co-stars and past co-stars posts - both male and female. And then today, when DWY has ended for two days - he went to JBA account to like her lastest post, which was a commercial posted on 5/9/2023??? I mean wasn't JBA supposed to be the person he has to interact the most when DWY was on air because she was his partner??- He started following this Kim Min Ha girl at the middle of the night (maybe it was early morning in Korea) when DWY was still broadcasting? Yeah of course it was his choice but I still feel really weird for an actor to follow another female celeb when the drama was still promoting. If RW and Kim Min Ha really have something of an item then he will be the first SK celeb ever that follows his gf when the drama is still going on. Of course I hope he was not that unprofessional.
- Again, when DWY is broadcasting, instead of posting pictures to promote he posted an old picture of him back when he was in Japan with Ahn Hyo Seop?? It was not even a commercial or something at that current time, which would made me feel much more reasonable than a casual pic of him hanging out (and even from months ago).
3. The pictures: okay after DWY ended then I'm 100% sure his choice of picture is OBVIOUSLY deliberate. In DWY era he even uploaded much more a lot than TKA era (about the number of pictures), but he DIDN't post a single picture with JBA. If you take a look at his instagram, at what he has posted then you will get why I said his choice is deliberate. As a Robin shipper, it would be lying if I said I wasn't bother at all if he posted with JBA, but I do really question why he did that. If RW and EB are not in a relationship right now so why he still doesn't post anything with other female leads? What was the reason? Is he just simply doesn't like them as much as EB, or he doesn't want the shipping thing with Bo Ah to go too far...? But isn't that means he is giving us a hope and confirming EB is very special to him? If you guys have other answers just go ahead because I really want to know. I hope you aware that DWY was his first romance drama (which has a male and a female lead) ever since TKA ended, and he went back to his tradition of not posting any couple pics with his parner just like he did with EY and SWNK. Actually I'm not the only one who has questions about this, I saw lots of his shippers with Boah got frustrated when he didn't post anything with her (but in the meantime he still liked and commented on the couple picture in director's account?). Yeah I thought I could stay delulu but then today our man decided to stalk Boah's instagram and left a like. For God sake I wish I was him so I could know everything I need to know instead of sitting here and get confused times after times.
I really do not want to think bad of him because he is a very smart, sophisticated and especially he has very good taste, which is very nice. I just hope that I'm not defending the wrong person
I can not answer all your q's. But think about this.
1) Pretend you are a man and you have a pubic account with 50 Friends and 50 Family members. Everyone of them can see what you post. You LIKE a certain girl in this group of 100. Would you post a picture of yourself with other girls on your public account?
If no, then I think you got your answer.
If yes, then you are a shameless, hopeless, unfiltered flirt of a man. hahaha.
I am not sure if this is exactly what you are asking? But I hope this helps?
On 10/14/2023 at 9:46 PM, Yuen10 said:Woah! I didn’t even know about this. That’s a tricky question and he has to be honest to himself, to PEB and his fans. That answer is like music to my ears. He was asked tricky questions just like when he was put on the spot to pick his favourite character where he did give an interesting expression then picked his DWY character and elaborated with because TKA is in the pass.
I mentioned this 50% with JBA vs 100% with PEB. Back on page 130 I think? hahahahaha. I guess no one reads my posts? hahahaha
But here is the NF YT of Rowoon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a33HievSF-E
The 100% (or 10 out of 10) starts at 0:40. He is so handsome and healthy here. His cheeks were still full and he seems visibly VERY HAPPY! I wonder why? hahahahaha
On 10/14/2023 at 10:15 PM, woobin said:He’s got this strong values I guess from his family. I’ve watched HOW when he said he’s very close to his family, he talks to his mom when things are difficult and wanted to spend more time with his dad. He said that his dad told him to think/imagine how he would want himself as a dad (in the future). I’m glad to have seen that clip from HOW, I got to know a bit of him personally. I feel that he was taught and raised well, I’m sure that’s why he knows what he wants, he knows his heart and he wants to live his life in his own terms, for people to see him in a deeper sense as an actor and how good as a person he is. He’s such a neat freak, too! He’s reserved yet talkative in the right environment, gentle and humble same as PEB. They surely will go places and achieve more!
I watched that but I think I missed the part when he said that his dad told him to think/imagine how he would want himself as a dad in the future?
On 10/14/2023 at 2:43 PM, Wiz said:Hello Rnie,
Thank you for sharing. I think Rowoon probably began following people on Instagram such as friends, his staff and colleagues because he may not have previously had control of his following list since he was in a group and is transitioning now into a solo performer and focusing on acting. My opinion on why he likes what he likes is a bit strategic, it demonstrates to the public that he has a good relationship with his former and current colleagues when he likes and comments on their posts and it may be a quick way for him to stay connected and maintain good relationships with them. I have noticed that Korean actors tend to work with each other more than once on different shows. They also share information about who is good and not so good to work with in their industry. Remember how Rowoon shared on different interviews that he had heard PEB was a good person to work with. I think having a good reputation in the Korean film industry is very important and you have to maintain a good reputation to keep getting good roles and to work with good writers, actors and directors. Rowoon appears to be like most of us who use Instagram and he likes random posts and makes random comments, likely in between his shooting schedules and other commitments.
Yes, true. And that is true in ANY business and ANY nationality/country? Right? We usually hire or work with people who have a good reputation, someone we know/worked with previously or have very good feedback from other people. They have to have good networking for REPEAT BUSINESS.
Even in the US: Yes, there is an audition for most shows and movies. But for the most part it is word of mouth and recommendations.
On 10/14/2023 at 5:29 PM, NTTD said:It seems like Rowoon has some downtime so he's checking out his friends' Instagram posts and liking their endorsement ads. I think he's probably happy for them and supporting their ads as a friend. He liked JBO, Yura, and KHY's ig ads to name a few. I think it's innocent and nice.
To be honest, I have absolutely no fear if there's anything going on between him and JBA. If you see the BTS of TKA, he and Peb were joined by the hips! They even sat and leaned on each other while waiting to shoot and they're always stealing alone time! One thing I've noticed is that his kisses are much more aggressive with JBA and WJA (She Would Never Know) than with PEB. For example, in the afternoon joyful kiss scene where PEB pushed him to sit on a rock, he barely opened his mouth and PEB did most of the work! My interpretation is that if you're comfortable and have no romantic feelings for the other person, you're more free to just go for it. With PEB, he was definitely more cautious and nervous. Then again, PEB is a pro and so seasoned that it may be intimidating. I also see that happened to KTO in WYW kiss scenes.
Yes! We're all here because we want to see them together but for me, I rather they have a super strong friendship where they can keep in touch and rely on each other. I think it'll be more sustainable if they have a project together after Rowoon's military service and then hopefully become a couple. This ship may take a while to sail!
But then again, if Rowoon is erratic and he's starting to flirt and be all over the place then of course this will be over for me. PEB deserves better! Still waiting to see if and when he'll reciprocate the FT to JBA. Like @Pen G mentioned before, if he sends a FT to JBA with couple photos or signs of affection, then THAT'LL BE IT FOR ME!
Woobin is right. I remember there was one post, not sure if this was on YT or this forum. She said she loved TKA but she felt that the kisses were NOT too romantic. She was probably comparing the kisses to modern day kissing on SWNK.
But I replied that probably the PD directed it that way, since during 1392-1910 the Joseon Dynasty people did NOT kiss that way.
Also, this is coincidental. I jus watched the BTS of TKA kissing of Rowoon on PEB's cheek in that secret garden that they frequent. During the BTS he was visibly nervous. Even the Korean commenter of the one who makes the BTS (probably the TKA production team) observed that Rowoon was so nervous kissing PEB's cheek. And mind you!!!!! That was just a PECK on the cheek!!!! And he was nervous. hahahaha
Contrast that to the BTS kissing scene in the park grass with JBA in DWY. MimiShu shared with me the Eng translation. Rowoon said: "Stop giggling. Hurry up!". He was hurrying up the kiss scene with JBA. hahahhahahaha.
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13 hours ago, mktgkat said:
I think yeah, probably in one of those award accepting interview/ videos...
Now that DWY is done. Whew! Finally! I don't think it is the kind of show that I would re-watch over and over and over and over again like TKA. haha. Just my personal, humble opinion.
Now, time to move on to MORE IMPORTANT THINGS:
WE NEED TO:
1) Make sure that CAD maintains #1 spot (if at all possible) in ALL 12 Episodes on NF. Week after week after week after week after week after week after week, UNTIL the last Episode!!!!
2) Make sure Park Eun Bin (PEB) cements her IRREPLACEABLE STATUS (according to Baeksang Awards) as an actress with CAD.
3) That TKA/EAW popularity of PEB was NOT just a fluke, by chance or that she just GOT LUCKY because of EAW or TKA.
4) If CAD is successful. Netflix will give PEB more and more and more PROJECTS.
Please???? Kindly????? Pretty please????
7 hours ago, Penny said:Love this picture. They are so looks like a perfect and intelligent couple. Netflix really know how to make a great chemestry picture. I challenge if someone can find another picture of Rowoon with his other FL, better than this one.
Ahhhhhh! Yes!
No sexiness, sexy clothes, sexy poses or sexual hints needed but a lot of meaning flows from this beautiful picture.
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5 hours ago, MimiSchu said:
Actually that is not true. Today the production company of DWY congratulated the whole crew and cast for remaining in the top 10 most watched shows on Netflix (non English) for 7 weeks in a row, with more than 120.000.000 million hours viewed in total…
No wonder I could not find DWY in the Top 10 in the US on Netflix. Because it wasn't from 8/21 to 10/8. Thank you and to Penny.
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/top10/united-states/tv?week=2023-08-27
But before anyone of you tell me that these above are ONLY English shows on the list. Ragnarok is Norweigan. Lupin is French. Dear Child is German. (Non-English). hahahaha. Just saying.
Then, I researched Tomorrow NF rankings. At the end of the series on May 23, 2022. Tomorrow ranked 8th. And I think it states it had 179,000,000 million hours viewed more than the 120,000,000 million hours viewed of DWY ( of course, not sure if this has 10/11 and 10/12). I calculated the average million hours viewed of DWY since it aired is roughly 16.7 million hours. So, I would not expect it to reach more than 179 million hours like Tomorrow. Even, If I give it a buffer of 20 Million more, the total would only be 156 Million compared to 179 million hours for Tomorrow. Sorry, I just like numbers.
Or I could be totally wrong.
So in conclusion, without ANY kissing, touching and sex scenes. Tomorrow was just as popular as DWY that had a lot of kissing, touching and one sex scene? Right?
No offense. No hate. Please? Just some simple, back of the napkin analysis?
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4 hours ago, Penny said:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/Ci9cAgApnd_/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
Please watch this edit of Robin, to understand the reason that we are here. No any sex or kiss scenes could overcome these bts off camera interactions of them.
At the beginning of DWY I was a bit worry that Rowoon could do the same with other FL. Today the broadcast is finished, and no one has published any BTS with Bo ah close to Rowoon. We could says that we has pass the risk step. Bo Ah for me is one of the prettiest Korea Actrees. So I think that we have nothing to worry.
Really? I don't think she is pretty? She is not bad but I don't find her pretty? But beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. hehehe.
6 hours ago, Yuen10 said:I do find that both PEB and KSW has set values where they cherish the small happiness of each day and each day doing what they love. It’s a complex and competitive industry they are in and it’s a brilliant way to protect themselves from disappointment as well as find a happy way of living. Simplicity is the key. If both have mindsets to be content with each small happiness they may naturally end up with lacking less. Just a thought
didn’t KSW in one of the BTS say after he was done filming and can go home to his little happiness. I read to somewhere and couldn’t find the clip. Perhaps choco his cat, perhaps something else.
Yes, I think that was the Tomorrow BTS. I didn't watch it. Someone only mentioned it on this forum.
I think he said "small happiness". If the Eng transaltion is right. It meant SIZE not AMOUNT. So yes, it could be Choco, PEB or BOTH? hehehe. Because I have a cat (loved cats since I was 7 y/o) , I wouldn't call my cat as "my small happiness". I would call my cat as my companion and my fur baby but not necessarily "my happiness".
4 hours ago, Yuen10 said:Thank you Penny I was able to watch through web. This is a great reminder of how happy they are in each other’s presence and laughing at things in their own world. He laughs and she laughs or she laughs and he then laughs. So lovely
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[OFFICIAL] Rowoon ❤️ Park Eun Bin (RoBin/Park-Ro Couple) | The King's Affection
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"I think Rwn was just being a gentleman when he only lightly put his hand on her bare shoulders. Other pics with other ladies also showed his hand floating actually."
Yes, exactly my point. Rowoon does not put his whole hand on women (except with PEB in W Korea Drawing Interview). But he sleeps with them instead. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! Joking!!!!
Awwwwww! So cute! Who would not be flustered around PEB??