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  1. 19 hours ago, Pen G said:

    I could be wrong but several pages earlier in this forum around Jan 2022, there were rumors on DCinside that people saw RoBin and Ahn Yeon Sop (sp?) and his GF (that girl in Do you Like Brahms who is also from Namoo Actors) in PEB's neighborhood. The reason this sounds credible is because the one who initially reported it before it spread like wildfire was someone who knows PEB's mom and knows that particular neighborhood.

    Aside from that, there were also several other reports (aside from the one who knows PEB's mom) saying the same thing. It was kind of a double date. A day after it was posted on DCInside, the thread was taken down. We all know if random people come together to say the exact same thing, the possibility is high that it is true.

    Before (?) and during TKA, Rowoon was actively following PEB's IG right?

    In fact, they were sending messages via IG. The last was an IG message from Rowoon saying something like: "Because of you Your Majesty, I was happy".

    So, after this report on DC Inside and then the very next day that report was taken down..... You don't see Rowoon ever engaging on PEB's IG anymore. Could it be possible that Rowoon was asked (or forced) by his agency to unfollow PEB? I am not an active follower on IG and I don't have IG but I did sign up just to check. Last time I checked Rowoon is no longer following PEB, nor does he LIKE any of her posts or leaves a message. Which is kind of strange. Both of them have been close during TKA (not necessarily a GF/BF relationship) and then suddenly you no longer engage? It actually raised more suspicions than not.

     

    I know, it is hard. To overcome this difficulty, I watch DWY over and over and over again just for Rowoon. I study his acting intensely and just stare at his face longingly. hahahahaha. I will say, I am starting to appreciate JBA acting. She has improved after Episode 2. Of course, second ONLY to Rowoon. hahahaha.

     

    Please see my response to Adriana about RoBin IG posts. And yes, you are quite right. They would rather not attract as much attention to themselves if they were indeed a couple. Otherwise the other reason? They used to be totally close and now they absolutely despise each other, which is highly unlikely.

     

    Yes, I AM DYING TO WATCH Diva of a Deserted Island or Castway Diva. SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    I am so excited for October on Netflix!!!!!!!!! CAN.NOT.WAIT.

    Yes, you are right. The food trucks speak volumes. Rowoon only sends FT to his male friend and sent ONLY one to a female as a thank you for that female for sending him one FIRST. And as for PEB in her 26 years in the industry has NOT once sent a FT to another entertainer, let alone a male actor.

     

    That is true about their filming skeds after EAW and Tomorrow. Both took a really long break with only fan meetings, photoshoots and Rowoon's concert in Japan. But no long filming skeds. Good observation. Didn't think about that. Thank you for pointing that out.

    Yes, you are right. The bone structure, the chin, the shape of their faces. So, Rowoon was interviewed in a mag prior to TKA filming (forgot which one) he said there that they look alike. I think that's where it all started; in that mag interview.

     

    There is another side by side comparison of them by a fan many pages ago. Oh my! They looked so alike.

     

    Yeah! We are really on the same wavelength. Indeed, like some male creatures in the animal kingdom, Rowoon was indeed "marking his territory". :grin:

    One way to find out is to watch or re-watch their TKA promotin on Hanna Volume Up. Freeze frame on any part where the camera angle focuses on their faces close-up, with their faces facing front as much as possible. That is where I observed the bone structure, the chin, the shape of their faces. Full cheeks, high cheekbones but tapers towards the chin. Both have pointy chins. Of course, PEB has bigger eyes but Rowoon has darker, denser eyebrows.

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  2. On 8/29/2023 at 6:39 AM, Wiz said:

    Vogue JBA and Rowoon

     

    JBA and ABH

     

    For comparison…

    Yeah, Rowoon wouldn't touch a woman like that unless "forced" by the PD. ahahahhaha

    18 minutes ago, Wiz said:

    You made some fair points. I work with strategic communication and marketing so I love when people engage with social media in a smart and cool way. The celebrities whose feeds I enjoy on social media aren’t on posting all the time- they use it wisely and strategically. I don’t think posting candids of yourself is a hardship otherwise people may feel like you only engage with them when you are selling a product. PEB has posted candids in the past with various colleagues, done live streams and posted candids of herself m.  Social media is also a revenue stream for celebrities and if you don’t effectively engage - you may lose money and/ or opportunities. I don’t think that’s the case for PEB. 

    Ahh! Got it! Point well taken.

     

    I don't consume what other folks call mainstream "social media" so I wouldn't really know? Does it show how much I don't like social media? ahhahahhaha. This forum here, my occasional comments on YT and my constant watching NF, is my "pathetic extent of social media". hahahaha

    22 minutes ago, Wiz said:

    You made some fair points. I work with strategic communication and marketing so I love when people engage with social media in a smart and cool way. The celebrities whose feeds I enjoy on social media aren’t on posting all the time- they use it wisely and strategically. I don’t think posting candids of yourself is a hardship otherwise people may feel like you only engage with them when you are selling a product. PEB has posted candids in the past with various colleagues, done live streams and posted candids of herself m.  Social media is also a revenue stream for celebrities and if you don’t effectively engage - you may lose money and/ or opportunities. I don’t think that’s the case for PEB. 

    Someone must manage her social media account then, if she is not doing it properly or effectively? It does not have to Namoo? Her mother used to be her manager, maybe she can manage her social media like IG?  Right?

    16 hours ago, mktgkat said:

    Haha.. i didn't know about manner legs, i've seen them do it, i didn't know there's a term for it. And yeah... Ur right. About skinship with women, he's guarded when touching women. 

    I was shookt there for a second. He is still following PEB in insta, I just checked... Rwn still likes some of her posts. He liked the aloe king endorsement on Aug8. 

    Totally off topic here. Sorry!

     

    There were some folks who said they didn't like his role on the first two episodes of DWY because he was a jerk. He wasn't a jerk. He is just cold, cool, cursed and diseased. Well, 4 things 1) Park Eun Bin was a jerk in TKA but then they featured "him" as not being a jerk in the later eipisodes. 2) That goes to show that Rowoon's acting is effective if they were THAT "affected". 3) In that Business Proposal series, the male lead was also featured as a TOTAL JERK. 4) The reason they had to feature him as someone cold, cool and cursed was because they had to show a BIG difference in who he was BEFORE the spell and who he was AFTER the spell. They had to show a very big change.

     

    Some people aren't very analytical before they post. hahahahhahahaha.

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  3. 15 hours ago, Wiz said:

    Rowoon does follow PEB on IG along with other past colleagues. He doesn’t really engage her posts but to be fair most of her posts are ads or posts from fan meetings/ coffee trucks. I wish PEB did more posts that were candids and shared her photos with friends or colleagues. She would have more followers and engagement if she did…. 

    Ahh! I am wrong then as stated.

     

    To be fair also, PEB is such a very busy lady. She must be burnt-out also for always trying to live up to her fans many and demanding expectations? Also, maybe she would like to keep photos of friends and co-workers as private so to be safe, she only posts official and work related stuff?

     

    Plus, I don't really know the rules and laws in South Korea? But you probably have to ask permission to publicly post photos of all the other people in the photo itself? It is probably a waste of her time and effort to ask permission from every single person in the photos that she has?

     

    I don't know just wondering?

    15 hours ago, mktgkat said:

    Haha.. i didn't know about manner legs, i've seen them do it, i didn't know there's a term for it. And yeah... Ur right. About skinship with women, he's guarded when touching women. 

    I was shookt there for a second. He is still following PEB in insta, I just checked... Rwn still likes some of her posts. He liked the aloe king endorsement on Aug8. 

    Thank you all for correcting me! So I just gave myself away that I hate social media, don't like it therefore I don't know how it works? hahahhahahhaha. The only "social media" I have is posting RoBin things on YT and watching NF. That is the extent of my "social media". hahahahahaha.

     

    Btw, I just watched Episode 4 of DWY. Oh my gosh! Rowoon made us laugh so HARD! Rowoon's comedic timing is off the charts! Oh my gosh! We coud NOT stop laughing. He is a natural comedian. Oh my gosh! We were rolling down the aisle laughing at his comedy. Oh my gosh! I can't stop saying: "Oh my gosh!" hahahahaha.

     

    15 hours ago, Adrianna said:

    Yeah that’s the recent one he liked and everyone went crazy, I think she posted right after rowoon birthday. Idk for some reason I feel like rowoon post in insta right after PEB post. I could be wrong too but yeah. 

    Yeah you are right. When PEB announced their Emmy Award on IG around 1:30 am. After about 25 (?) minutes at around 2:15 am, Rowoon copied and pasted their cartoon equivalent of their TKA poster of the 2 couples.

     

    In my mind, they probably talked about it on the phone after PEB posted it on her IG. Then, when they both hung up. Rowoon immediately posted his TKA on IG. Or maybe my mind is just going crazy. hahahaha.

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  4. 21 hours ago, Adrianna said:

    I wish if Rowoon would also like this picture of hers :( 

    I could be wrong but several pages earlier in this forum around Jan 2022, there were rumors on DCinside that people saw RoBin and Ahn Yeon Sop (sp?) and his GF (that girl in Do you Like Brahms who is also from Namoo Actors) in PEB's neighborhood. The reason this sounds credible is because the one who initially reported it before it spread like wildfire was someone who knows PEB's mom and knows that particular neighborhood.

    Aside from that, there were also several other reports (aside from the one who knows PEB's mom) saying the same thing. It was kind of a double date. A day after it was posted on DCInside, the thread was taken down. We all know if random people come together to say the exact same thing, the possibility is high that it is true.

    Before (?) and during TKA, Rowoon was actively following PEB's IG right?

    In fact, they were sending messages via IG. The last was an IG message from Rowoon saying something like: "Because of you Your Majesty, I was happy".

    So, after this report on DC Inside and then the very next day that report was taken down..... You don't see Rowoon ever engaging on PEB's IG anymore. Could it be possible that Rowoon was asked (or forced) by his agency to unfollow PEB? I am not an active follower on IG and I don't have IG but I did sign up just to check. Last time I checked Rowoon is no longer following PEB, nor does he LIKE any of her posts or leaves a message. Which is kind of strange. Both of them have been close during TKA (not necessarily a GF/BF relationship) and then suddenly you no longer engage? It actually raised more suspicions than not.

     

    13 minutes ago, Yuen10 said:

    I am trying to embrace the Destined with You Era knowing that KSW has invested so much effort and passion into it but it is hard.  With the recent updates from PEB and KSW in their instagram page, I really wished they would like each others post however, I am not sure if I am trying to make excuses to keep this ship alive but it might be a good thing that they aren’t.  Most couples are pretty quiet on each other’s pages trying to keep that part of their life private and attract as little attention as possible.  
     

    I am really looking forward to Mokha though and it would be really interesting to think idol Rowoon watching his noona transform into an idol.  :gangnamstyle:

    I know, it is hard. To overcome this difficulty, I watch DWY over and over and over again just for Rowoon. I study his acting intensely and just stare at his face longingly. hahahahaha. I will say, I am starting to appreciate JBA acting. She has improved after Episode 2. Of course, second ONLY to Rowoon. hahahaha.

     

    Please see my response to Adriana about RoBin IG posts. And yes, you are quite right. They would rather not attract as much attention to themselves if they were indeed a couple. Otherwise the other reason? They used to be totally close and now they absolutely despise each other, which is highly unlikely.

     

    Yes, I AM DYING TO WATCH Diva of a Deserted Island or Castway Diva. SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    I am so excited for October on Netflix!!!!!!!!! CAN.NOT.WAIT.

    On 8/28/2023 at 10:51 AM, Yuen10 said:

    I haven’t read JBA call or refer to Rowoon by his real name, KSW.  Correct me if I am wrong.  During the TKA era, rowoon’s real name came up often such as in the TKA TMI clips when PEB asked what he is and he replied I am sukwoo.  PEB thank KSW on his instagram page using his real name.  KSW mentions several times that Rowoon is like a a brand so when we see these public photos that’s maybe his brand personality.  You can tell a difference between him during the Rimowa appearance and the Andz.  One is very confident and the other is different more humble shy and calm. 
     

    Going back to early post, I am not sure but to me it’s speaks mountains with the food truck he sent with all couple photos to PEB and she also returned with couples photos photo and as well I am not sure if it is this forum or somewhere where but on one photo she even mentioned Rowoon’s manager in hand writing.  At least this tells me they are friends.
     

    On one of their instagram post not sure which one but on KBS awards night KSW wrote for PEB something like ‘because of your majesty I am happy’.  It can be taken in a serious tone or funny tone.  From most of my reading KSW post, it seems different but I can be wrong since I don’t follow too much

     
     

    An observation is that after PEB finished WYW she didn’t film anything until her recent project just like KSW after he filmed Tomorrow.  Of course they had other photoshoots and fanmeeting but it seems to me they both took a break after their previous projects and before PEB started filming for Diva and Rowoon with Destined.  Anyhow just observations, they may have taken to time to be preparing a zillion of other things :sweat_smile:

    Yes, you are right. The food trucks speak volumes. Rowoon only sends FT to his male friend and sent ONLY one to a female as a thank you for that female for sending him one FIRST. And as for PEB in her 26 years in the industry has NOT once sent a FT to another entertainer, let alone a male actor.

     

    That is true about their filming skeds after EAW and Tomorrow. Both took a really long break with only fan meetings, photoshoots and Rowoon's concert in Japan. But no long filming skeds. Good observation. Didn't think about that. Thank you for pointing that out.

    On 8/28/2023 at 11:17 AM, mktgkat said:

    Hahah yeah I saw one time in filming of fairy and woodcutter scene... and his face was serious then, i thought at first he was teasing her.... but he's not giving off mischievous/teasing vibe.

    I keep trying to see it but... i cant... not so much... is it probably the shape of their face and cheekbone? But with their side view images posted earlier, yeah, they looked so much alike. 

    For sure... They're the only ones I know who sent couple pictures. And it smelled a lot like "marking the territory"

    Rwn be like "EB-noona is mine" ahaha:wow1:

    Yes, you are right. The bone structure, the chin, the shape of their faces. So, Rowoon was interviewed in a mag prior to TKA filming (forgot which one) he said there that they look alike. I think that's where it all started; in that mag interview.

     

    There is another side by side comparison of them by a fan many pages ago. Oh my! They looked so alike.

     

    Yeah! We are really on the same wavelength. Indeed, like some male creatures in the animal kingdom, Rowoon was indeed "marking his territory". :grin:

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  5. On 8/28/2023 at 10:00 AM, mktgkat said:

    Oh yeah.... Ur right... :fun:and I was thinking in my head he touches his male friends a lot.... But yeah only limited female... 

    I remember this being called "manner hands" in korea

     

    This is what I searched in google:

    Generally, this refers to male celebrities not touching their female colleagues or fans out of respect when posing for a photo. While it may be considered rude in the western countries, 'manner hands' has received positive responses and great praise from both the media and the netizen communities in South Korea.

    Actually Robin couple are very similar to BinJin couple right? Right!? Ahahah:sipsboba:

    Ah! Okay! They have "manner legs" so they also have "manner hands", Still think Rowoon is guarded about touching women, though? hahahaha.

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  6. On 8/25/2023 at 6:45 PM, Yuen10 said:

    Did KSW not choose his character in TKA? I got confused with what he said when he was choosing between his characters when they asked between the characters in TKA and his new drama destined with you in the video that Cherry shared for part 2 of the interview talk-show.  He mumbled something but the translation in the video wrote something like, the last chapter, it was kinda confusing.  I was surprised KSW didn’t pick his character from TKA.  I always thought he held that character to dearly and was very special but perhaps fret watching that video it might be a self fulling thought and maybe they all are dear to him and maybe TKA is not the dearest.  Just some thoughts of mine

    :pensive:

     

    IMHO, Rowoon said this because we all know he had a hard time moving on from TKA and his character. In Tomorrow, he was confused because he was still thinking of himself as Jung Ji Won. We know in our hearts he loved his character in TKA. During the KBS Awards night when Baek was singing live the song "If I", he was holding back his tears. He was choking up. Have you ever seen an actor choke up in his seat because he was hearing an OST song from his TV show? We haven't. That is how much he loved his work and his character at TKA. Even PEB wasn't that emotional. hahaha. Rowoon loved his character, he loved the project. He probably loved his FL, too. hahahaha. TKA landed him and the rest of the cast and crew an Emmy Award. It gave him KBS Awards. He has arrived and his name in now on the "map" because of TKA. 

     

    Saying "it is a new chapter" gives it away. Why not just pick Jang Shin Yu and leave it at that? Why even say "it is a new chapter" or something to that effect? You ONLY say that if you had/have a hard time letting go. For example: if you have a new BF and someone asks you if you love the former BF or the current BF. You would naturally say: "Well, my former BF was the last chapter, my new BF is a new chapter", but obviously you can't just completely forget or shun a former BF. Hope I am making some sense?

     

    I suspect PEB had something to do with it. We know Rowoon was having a hard time. PEB, because she has been in the industry for so long probably told Rowoon to move on from TKA. She probably gave him advice and I suspect the advice PEB gave him was: " Jung Ji Won was a previous chapter".

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  7. 14 minutes ago, Yuen10 said:

    I also find there is a lot of couple photoshoots for the new drama and they are really pushing the couple theme but I am biased for TKA and wished that PEB and KSW had more publicity and photoshoots.  On the other hand I am also grateful they didn’t because to me it made their coupleing seem more genuine and that’s probably what really attracted a lot of people to them was how genuine and respectful they are.  

    Maybe because TKA was more than just a romance show? There were other more serious themes:

    1) politics

    2) corruption

    3) gender discrimination (they were willing to kill a girl just because she was girl)

    4) too much patriarchy in the Korean past

    5) mans lust for and in power, woman in power

    6) murder

    7) crime, covering up crimes

    8) too much power during the Joseon Dynasty

    etc, etc

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  8. On 8/26/2023 at 12:36 AM, daisy D said:

    I think the story line and other casts of TKA were much stronger than DWY.  in TKA episode 1 and 2, the story had engaged me and hooked me to watch further.  The supporting and child casts were extremely good to promote the series. Even more when PEB and Rowoon appeared later.

     

    For me the first two episodes are very important to attract audiences.  I think DWY is getting to top 5 in Netflix may be because Rowoon is in the series since he has so many fans around the world after TKA boomed. 

    Anyway, i would love to watch the mystery in upcoming DWY series. 

    Not even a fair comparison. hahahaha.

     

    TKA is an Emmy-award winner with a phenomenal cast and was also commercially successful. So................ yeah!

    On 8/25/2023 at 10:21 PM, Yuen10 said:

    One thing I did notice after rewatching was that when he picked the other characters he was very certain and kept a straight face but when he pick Jang Shin Yu instead of Jung Ji Woon, it seems like he had a different reaction like laughing more and peeked around after and he did take a bit longer to pick between them.  Did anyone notice? Maybe i am overthinking.  I guess after that one time option it eliminated Jung Jo Woon. It would be interesting to see how he would have choose if it was up against his other characters. I get it though because he is promoting his new character which he is definitely proud of and rightly so.  It is also his come back character and he is actually a main lead where his previous drama storyline were more centred on the powerful female leads. 

    There was a lot of people who reads body language earlier in the forum.  It would be interesting for them to chime in and see how they analyze it.  

    Funny you say that. On the NF billing (meaning the arrangement of the roster of the names of the main leads). Rowoon was ONLY second in biling to JBA. We were like????? What?????

     

    Rowoon is only SECOND billing to her name. Am I wrong? Please check it again maybe my eyesight is failing me? hahaha

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  9. 14 hours ago, Adrianna said:

    Out of blue, I have notice something.. idk if this is common or not but when ever rowoon laugh or feel shy he always cover his mouth like I have notice that a lot even with his new FL but I have never seen him doing that around PEB, I mean video and photo I have seen with him.. idk if I’m juts tripping.. 

    Yes, I noticed that, too.

     

    But I think most Koreans do that, too? But youa are right. I have yet to see Rowoon cover his mouth laughing around PEB. They both just laugh heartily or to their hearts content. That is how comfortable they feel around each other, I would think!

    9 minutes ago, Pen G said:

    Yes, I noticed that, too.

     

    But I think most Koreans do that, too? But youa are right. I have yet to see Rowoon cover his mouth laughing around PEB. They both just laugh heartily or to their hearts content. That is how comfortable they feel around each other, I would think!

    You know, what I really don't like in South Korean dramas? Always depicting Korean workers always getting drunk after work. And I mean, really, really drunk. :blush: On Episode 2 of DWU, that is what they showed. AGAIN. I don't watch a lot of SK shows but it seems to me, this is such an over-used trope? Just saying. 

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  10. On 8/22/2023 at 11:20 AM, MimiSchu said:

    I think he has a certain habit of talking about random things all of a sudden, at least that‘s what I observed in the past :-) 

    But I agree with you that it seems a little awkward to do so at a brand event. As he was talking about some worries he had, I think he maybe just wanted to ask the fans to stand by his side, no matter what the future might bring for him.
    Some time ago he said that he doesn’t want kids but would want to enjoy his time with his partner instead. So it seems that his thoughts on that subject have evolved since then. But I think that he has always been quite consistent in his wish of getting married. On HOW he even prioritized getting married over acting.

    I agree with you that he wouldn’t be talking about those subjects if he wouldn’t be thinking about them. But that’s not unusual for someone in his late twenties I believe. I don‘t necessarily think that this leads to the conclusion that he already is in a relationship, although I really would wish him to be ❤️

    Okay, I rewatched Destined With You again after a nap. I was so sleepy and dizzy watching the show this morning, I had to rewatch Episode 1. Okay my assessment?

    1) As usual, the parts of Rowoon wherein he portrays a mysterious lawyer is what I am excited and looking forward to in the series.

    2) The reason I felt it was disjointed was because I did not have enough sleep last night waiting for DWY. It was all my fault. Duh!

    3) The reason they don't make you understand everything is so that it remains a mystery. Duh! What was I thinking.

    4) The reason they make it a bit confusing is so that you will watch until Episode 16. I get it! I get it! or maybe, it confused me a bit because of my lack of sleep. Whatever the reason, I totally understand the pacing of the show now.

    5) Rowoon's acting is far better than JBA. Rowoon never fails in whatever he does. His acting is exemplary! Kudos to him!

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  11. Okay, I think it's because it is a mysterious romance-fantasy that is why they made it a bit disjointed? They don't want to reveal everything all at once. Am I right?

    17 hours ago, Penny said:

    As I suspect from some reels and tiktok comments, lot of fantasys of SF9 are worried about that Rowoon will going to leave the boy band, because Rowoon is focus more in acting than singing. Lot of messages are blaming the agency that they are monetizing Rowoon with more profitable activities and putting him extra workload úntil he goes to enlist. Maybe he has intention to send some message to the fans that he has some personal plan. I don't know, but I still thinking that what ever he do from his own decisión will be very welcome for me and we are going to support him. 

    Of course, FNC Entertainement is going to monetize Rowoon with more profitable activities. Netflix pledged to buy $2.5 Billion (that is US Bilions of dollars), in South Korea shows, movies, etc. All FNC would do is have Rowoon cast in shows that NF would buy. Concerts, training, music videos cost a lot more for FNC to produce out of their own pocket. With NF just buying shows with Rowoon in the cast, FNC does not have to do much of anything. It is a business decision.

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  12. 23 hours ago, MimiSchu said:

    I think he has a certain habit of talking about random things all of a sudden, at least that‘s what I observed in the past :-) 

    But I agree with you that it seems a little awkward to do so at a brand event. As he was talking about some worries he had, I think he maybe just wanted to ask the fans to stand by his side, no matter what the future might bring for him.
    Some time ago he said that he doesn’t want kids but would want to enjoy his time with his partner instead. So it seems that his thoughts on that subject have evolved since then. But I think that he has always been quite consistent in his wish of getting married. On HOW he even prioritized getting married over acting.

    I agree with you that he wouldn’t be talking about those subjects if he wouldn’t be thinking about them. But that’s not unusual for someone in his late twenties I believe. I don‘t necessarily think that this leads to the conclusion that he already is in a relationship, although I really would wish him to be ❤️

    I guess. We are very glad though that he did NOT unequivocally say:

    1) I don't want a relationship

    2) I don't want a Grilfriend

    3) I do NOT want to get married

    4) I do NOT want to have children

    16 hours ago, Penny said:

    As I suspect from some reels and tiktok comments, lot of fantasys of SF9 are worried about that Rowoon will going to leave the boy band, because Rowoon is focus more in acting than singing. Lot of messages are blaming the agency that they are monetizing Rowoon with more profitable activities and putting him extra workload úntil he goes to enlist. Maybe he has intention to send some message to the fans that he has some personal plan. I don't know, but I still thinking that what ever he do from his own decisión will be very welcome for me and we are going to support him. 

    Agree. We will support him in whatever he decides.

     

    Well, fans should not get angry with Rowoon. He decides where his career and life goes. But I do agree that FNC agency is working Rowoon to death! They need to give him a very, very, very, very big BONUS!

    15 hours ago, Yuen10 said:

    When I watched HOW episode KSW seemed to be really listening attentively to what his buddy was saying.  I must admit I really liked what his friend LJW said about choosing marriage and found he articulated it very well and his explanation was very touching as well.  I am not sure how much of that was prescripted but none the less, his answer is endearing and really substantiate the meaning of marriage and life partner and someone to grow old with.  The part of someone to grow old with really touched my heart because love is suppose to be a forever commitment and it surpasses and outlives all the perhaps the fame and glory that they are experiencing now.  It is a forever choice. And it may or may not be an opportunity or experience that everyone comes across and of it does, you will be giving up a lot.  
    KSW was very quiet during this conversation despite he also chose marriage.  He is normally a very expressive and talkative person.  I am happy that he seems to have positive friend around him and hope he achieves what he want before he enlists.  I am not sure about his ex-girlfriend or how they broke up but i sort of remember seeing in a show that he did mention something along the lines that he love/like her.  Perhaps he experienced lost and regret from before and maybe if love is to appear again he might want to protect or handle it differently… just some random thoughts of mine and I may just be completely wrong :blush:

     

    Thank you everyone on this forum again.  I really do cheer for KSW and PEB.  Although obviously I don’t know them but they seem to be very genuine and there is something about them to me that seems different from the other celebrities.  I am not sure what.  They both seem to some similar values and goal such as finding happiness is simple things and happiness can be simple and a lot of this similarity really reflects in their interviews.  
     

    I am very interested to see how KSW will grow his career and as PEB said in one of her interviews that for him to change those question marks into exclamation marks.  
    Rooting for the both of them to see where their career leads them. 

    Hope both their upcoming drama is a success.  Excited for it.

    Agree. Rowoon who is talkative was just listening to his friend. And HE SHOULD. LJW was very profound, deep and insightful on HOW4. He was speaking about the TRUTH. You are right, all your fame, money, awards, popularity will ONE DAY go away.  You will one day no longer be as popular. money runs out. Fame runs out. Awards get dusty. People will forget you. Another more popular actor and actress will be the NEW IT GIRL or NEW IT BOY.

    And what do you have? Nothing to show for. No family, No love. You have grown old with NO partner in life. And it would be too late once you realize that.

     

    Yes, RoBin couple have the same values. Rowoon said it himself on WKore Drawing Interview on YT: He said, him and PEB are THE PERFECT MATCH.

    23 hours ago, MimiSchu said:

    I think he has a certain habit of talking about random things all of a sudden, at least that‘s what I observed in the past :-) 

    But I agree with you that it seems a little awkward to do so at a brand event. As he was talking about some worries he had, I think he maybe just wanted to ask the fans to stand by his side, no matter what the future might bring for him.
    Some time ago he said that he doesn’t want kids but would want to enjoy his time with his partner instead. So it seems that his thoughts on that subject have evolved since then. But I think that he has always been quite consistent in his wish of getting married. On HOW he even prioritized getting married over acting.

    I agree with you that he wouldn’t be talking about those subjects if he wouldn’t be thinking about them. But that’s not unusual for someone in his late twenties I believe. I don‘t necessarily think that this leads to the conclusion that he already is in a relationship, although I really would wish him to be ❤️

     

    Olkay, I just finished the first episode of Destined With You on NF today 8/23/2023.

     

    Jo Bo Ahs acting is kinda mediocre? I think Rowoon saved Jo Bo Ah's acting. As you very well know, Rowoon is an exemplary actor. I am not sure about Jo Bo-Ah's acting? It seems she is trying too hard to act like she is cute and funny but it comes out "bleh"? Am I being too harsh?

     

    Obviously, we will consume anything with Rowoon or PEB seperately and together. I don't know if I just lack sleep but the scriptwriter and the screenplay seems to be disjointed? It seems there is no natural flow? Am I being too harsh about how the story is presented?

     

    Your thoughts?

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  13. On 8/20/2023 at 8:50 AM, MimiSchu said:

    I think this is the speech you are referring to… and this series of tweets contains the whole english translation.

    I had the same thougths like you when I read this some time ago. He has been talking about the duality of Rowoon and Kim Seok Woo before (per example in the „My real name“ interview series), but it seemed kind of random to talk about it at an official brand event.

     

    But as it was the first official event with fans he attended for a long time, maybe he felt the urge to let them know what he has been thinking about lately. He seemed pensive and honest. He was talking about some sort of burnout he had had, I believe sometime in between filming Tomorrow and Destined with you.
    „Kim Seok Woo must be feeling well for Rowoon to continue his activities“. I think he really took this „hiatus“ from filming because of some issues with his mental health. Aside from back to back filming, this was also the time when his beloved grandfather died last year. 

     

    By the way, I think that this is also what he was talking about during the fanmeetings in Japan. He did not mean to say he was having a bad time because of promoting (DWU), he meant to say that he has never admitted to fans before that he was having a bad time during a promotional event (the fanmeeting).
    FNC Japan has released some diagramms recently. Per exemple showing how KSW spends 24h when he works (which was insane with an average of 4 hours of sleep every day) versus when he is not working. Another diagramm showed all the years since his birth and how he was feeling. It had two major breakdowns in the curve. One during his trainees days and one in the time period I mentioned before. We don’t know exactly what happened but he must have been struggling a lot recently. One positive thing to be mentioned ist that the curve has been going up since then and the diagramm stated that KSW is feeling much more at ease right now…

    Of course it might also be a recent event or issues with some obsessive fans, that caused him to remind everyone at the ANDZ-Event that he is a human being and to respect the line he is drawing. FNC has been releasing statements in the past regarding privacy invasions of SF9 members. Unfortunately, things like that seem to happen on a regular basis to a lot of idols. Like you said, it is a crazy business after all.

     

    Or he knows that something is about to happen in the near future that might not please every fan, so he slowly wants to prepare everyone… 


    But I think he has always been doing well in drawing a line to fans just by being honest. Per example by speaking up about his former girlfriend, by always saying he respects his fans but refusing to say that he loves them and so on…

    So if one day he decides to stand by his loved one‘s side, I believe he will be doing well…❤️

    Okay, but why did Rowooon say after saying he has a private life and for fans to respect his private life. Why did he suddenly talk about marriage and children? He said: "He's not sure if he is going to get married or if he is going to have children"? Why even talk about that out of the blue? Where did that come from? I am thinking that someone would say that only if he is in a relationship or thinking of being in a relationship? If you know you aren't keen on getting married or having children, you don't even talk about it. I have to two sisters who never married or have children but they did NOT talk about it publicly. They weren't even interested in the topic. And when the topic came up, they changed the subject or ignored the topic because they were not really interested. But someone, like Rowoon why would you even bring it up in public UNLESS you are IN a relationship of sorts or planning to be in a relationship. He did NOT say" " I don't know if I am going to have a girlfriend" or " I don't know if I want a relationship". Because he already publicly and honestly admitted he had a previous GF before, like you mentioned. He said: "He's not sure if he is going to get married or if he is going to have children".

     

    I don't know if that makes sense? Am I making any sense? Thank you for your time.

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  14. On 8/21/2023 at 1:00 AM, daisy D said:

    Handsome and beautiful PEB 

    :kiss_wink:

    https://youtu.be/33Xskl72TN4

     

    I'm still obsessed with this series :lol:

    Me, too. We watch it on a loop. No kidding. This is probably our 89th watch on NF since 10/2022. Can't get over it.

    On 8/21/2023 at 3:22 AM, mktgkat said:

    I have been trying to find it... 

    You know.... I couldn't have made it up coz I'm not on the same wavelength as her  and I don't have the same thoughts as her.... hahaha that's why I watch her to learn some life principles as she speaks of many things that are deep and profound ...

    I binged on her interviews a while back and I couldn't find the ones that I saw... I'll just post back if ever I find it. I'm trying to guess if it was in Yoo quiz on the block or maybe the baeksang speech... Coz she cried in those times.. But I really remember the translation of her saying we experience hardship everyday something like that that's why I wondered what hardship she could be talking about....  Anyway... Yeah.. I'll post back if I ever find it again.. 

    No worries. No hurries. Just when you get the chance. I think I know what you are talking aout. It is probably in the Yoo Quiz. Because I watched the Baeksang speech probably 100 times now, and I don't think she mentioned it there? ahahhaha.

    Yes, she is soooo intelligent, authentic and wise.

    On 8/20/2023 at 10:07 AM, Yuen10 said:

    Thank you MimiSChu for all the clarification and sharing.  We definitely need to keep in mind these idols and celebrities are humans just like you and I and whom are as well faced with the ups and downs of life.  Just like everyone probably deserves the time and space to figure things out, heal and grow.  I am thankful for these celebrities who brings us art and entertainment to make us happy or allows us to escape into fairytale land.  The stress, the competition, the sweat and the hours and hours of training and sleeplessness to bring entertainment to us and be hopeful that their work is appreciated.  Thankful you for them.  

    Yes, that is true.

     

    Fans should not be too possesive. I am glad that Rowoon draws a line on the sand. Some on this forum say that he is brave and wise to do that as an Idol-Actor. He draws the line and sets boundaries with his fans. That is why you see South Korean idols committing suicide because they let everything and everyone dictate what they can and can not do.I think this is the speech you are referring to… and this series of tweets contains the whole english translation.

    On 8/20/2023 at 7:50 AM, MimiSchu said:

    I had the same thougths like you when I read this some time ago. He has been talking about the duality of Rowoon and Kim Seok Woo before (per example in the „My real name“ interview series), but it seemed kind of random to talk about it at an official brand event.

     

    But as it was the first official event with fans he attended for a long time, maybe he felt the urge to let them know what he has been thinking about lately. He seemed pensive and honest. He was talking about some sort of burnout he had had, I believe sometime in between filming Tomorrow and Destined with you.
    „Kim Seok Woo must be feeling well for Rowoon to continue his activities“. I think he really took this „hiatus“ from filming because of some issues with his mental health. Aside from back to back filming, this was also the time when his beloved grandfather died last year. 

     

    By the way, I think that this is also what he was talking about during the fanmeetings in Japan. He did not mean to say he was having a bad time because of promoting (DWU), he meant to say that he has never admitted to fans before that he was having a bad time during a promotional event (the fanmeeting).
    FNC Japan has released some diagramms recently. Per exemple showing how KSW spends 24h when he works (which was insane with an average of 4 hours of sleep every day) versus when he is not working. Another diagramm showed all the years since his birth and how he was feeling. It had two major breakdowns in the curve. One during his trainees days and one in the time period I mentioned before. We don’t know exactly what happened but he must have been struggling a lot recently. One positive thing to be mentioned ist that the curve has been going up since then and the diagramm stated that KSW is feeling much more at ease right now…

    Of course it might also be a recent event or issues with some obsessive fans, that caused him to remind everyone at the ANDZ-Event that he is a human being and to respect the line he is drawing. FNC has been releasing statements in the past regarding privacy invasions of SF9 members. Unfortunately, things like that seem to happen on a regular basis to a lot of idols. Like you said, it is a crazy business after all.

     

    Or he knows that something is about to happen in the near future that might not please every fan, so he slowly wants to prepare everyone… 


    But I think he has always been doing well in drawing a line to fans just by being honest. Per example by speaking up about his former girlfriend, by always saying he respects his fans but refusing to say that he loves them and so on…

    So if one day he decides to stand by his loved one‘s side, I believe he will be doing well…❤️

    Oh my! We hope he does not take his life like other Idols. We hope his mental health improves. I am not sure if that FNC Japan diagram is scientfic. But we do hope Rowoon gets mental help like RIGHT NOW. And we do hope he taps into the geniune love of his family and friends. And if he does have a current GF. We hope he taps into that as well.

    Not the superficial and too possesive "love" of his fans.

    Yes, Rowoon is brave and wise to draw the line on the sand when it comes to his fans.

     

    Thank you for your thoughts!

     

    Thanks for your thoughts! Much appreciated.

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  15. 5 hours ago, mktgkat said:

    Hahaha yeah I mean about the time they were tagged in insta... And generally when she goes out on public she can be on stealth mode... That's why I think she can probably get away with dating outside and just cover up by a lot.... but with someone like rwn who is super tall, he stands out too much they will probably get noticed too soon. 

     

    But yeah, dating/going-out.. yeah, it's probably a cultural thing. Like people who support them feel like they own the celebrities because they say without the fans support the celebrities wouldn't be where they are. Dating is called "scandal" in Korea and I got confused at first when I was trying to understand their entertainment industry. Cancel culture is also big in Korea and these issues are related. Power tripping...

     

    One thing I remember PEB and I admired her greatly for saying this... It's something along the lines of... "Each of us struggle everyday, why don't we just support each other..." And was like she was speaking slowly like she was choking up...

    ok, that's how I remember the translation I saw. Not really sure if I remember it correctly. Now I will have to find that video again and I will probably obsess in finding it... Hahah so probably she's speaking partly about the issues we're talking about... I feel so bad for them...

    I thought about this too! I also saw the vid of rwn saying he wants to go to an amusement park... But in the video that I posted earlier PEB said she really goes to amusement parks quarterly to destress.... Maybe he just wants to go with her...  Ahahaha

    Oh! Wow! Dating is called a "scandal"? Oh my word! No wonder South Korea has the lowest birthrate of all developed nations? :grimace: I mean they have to replace their aging workforce somehow? Right? And they have to have a certain population to fend off any attacks from North Korea? Right?

     

    Oh! she said that? Poor PEB. When did she say that? Vid or article? Now, you have another thing to obsess finding the link? hehehe. Mind sharing. That is very deep. Shows you how thoughtful and intelligent PEB is.

     

    Ah! So it's the other way around. PEB influenced Rwn to go to amusement parks. hahaha.

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  16. 16 hours ago, Yuen10 said:

    An observation I have is that KSW hasn’t done the heart hand gesture (where he and the female two hands make a heart) with his FL yet in the released photos that I have seen.  Maybe more photos will be released later or maybe I missed one.  I remember he and PEB would always do the heart hand gesture together 


    Did KSW say something along the lines of he is having a difficult time promoting during one of his recent fanmeets?    Poor guy must be so exhausted and the temperature seems to be tough too

    Yeah, you are quite right. Unless, of course like you mentioned more photos and vids are released later.

     

    Oh really? Could you please share where he said that? Maybe copy the link? Was it vid or interview? I am interested to see/hear or read it.

     

    Although, it is not hard to imagine that Rwn is having a difficult time. Poor, poor Rowoon. I wish FNC would give him a reward of a long, long vacation after ALL is said and done. OR better yet, give him a big, big, big, big bonus for working his tail off for FNC. OR better still, GIVE. HIM. BOTH. He deserves it.

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  17. On 8/17/2023 at 8:00 PM, mktgkat said:

    Oh.. It's just a thought in my head... You know "something in the rain"-son ye jin's kdrama the korean title if translated in english is pretty sister/noona who buys me food... It is in the promotional video of TKA... The TMI part. Where Eunbin said something like "he only eats protein and he does not even eat some chocolate I was offering him because it's carb...I feel so bad for him I hope he can eat very well already" and Rowoon said something like "Noona, buy me food." And she said "yes"/araseo(?)

    And now... I'm also thinking in my head about the food truck/s and probably the "anonymous fairy" sponsored food truck she's been sending him..... Hahahaha what a delulu thought... :smooches2:

    Start watching 5:06 the conversation I was talking about was around 5:46 look at the purple subtitle near rowoon's head

     

    And so if you know about "something in the rain/pretty noona who buys me food"... Well jung haein who played the ML was into sonyejin (FL) and they became a couple despite the resistance from his family and society... One of the resistance from family and society was because she was older than the guy... Hehehe.. just a thought running in my mind....

     

    Oh... So I misunderstood that he contacted PEB during the making Tomorrow...... Ok.. haha

    Another case of lost in translation ahaha

    You are right! Hahahaha. When he said: "Noona, buy me food." Maybe, that is why PEB sent those food trucks? She literally bought him food. ahahahahhahaha.

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  18. 11 hours ago, mktgkat said:

    Woah!!! Really???!! Ok... maybe their agencies threatened to sue for mistaken identity? Awww too bad we can't see even a screen shot of it. Did you notice the height difference though? Was it similar to RoBin?

     

    PEB can really go full stealth mode when she goes out and of course she can always deny and say it's a mistaken identity.... Look at her vlog here. She can go around freely without being noticed too much.

     

    https://youtu.be/MphA2LPfyqE

    Yeah, I saw another YT clip of PEB visiting an amusement park in Busan posted around 12/2022. Unfortunately, that is PEB "content-produced" sponsored by Namoo actors uploaded on their official Namoo Actors YT account. She was accompanied by her manager and one other female staff. She probably had a security detail, too. That is why folks couldn't get near her? hahahaha

     

    But yeah you are right; she can go stealth mode with her hoodie, cap, mask and probably even shades. She was "mostly" unnoticed. But on this YT vid, she wasn't really "going out" on her own volition, though. Although she probably suggested to Namoo where she wanted to go, as she explained in the YT vid. But when I mean "going out", I mean really "going-out". hahahaha.

     

    She wanted to go to an amusement park. I remember Rwn sometime May 2021 n his Nearest But Lost perfume interview. There he expressed his desire to go to an amusement park. So PEB going to one, is that something Rwn suggested? hahahaha. Coinky-dink? hahaha.

    11 hours ago, mktgkat said:

    Woah!!! Really???!! Ok... maybe their agencies threatened to sue for mistaken identity? Awww too bad we can't see even a screen shot of it. Did you notice the height difference though? Was it similar to RoBin?

     

    PEB can really go full stealth mode when she goes out and of course she can always deny and say it's a mistaken identity.... Look at her vlog here. She can go around freely without being noticed too much.

     

    https://youtu.be/MphA2LPfyqE

    Okay, I have a question for you and for everyone who wants to chime in.

     

    Around June 11, 2023 on YT, Rowoon was in an Andz Fan Sign meeting. Before the actual signing, I read the English translation. This was after PEB got her Daesang on April 28. 2023. In that Eng translation, Rwn was explaining something like: "I have a private life, too. I am human and a real person. Rowoon is the brand, but Kim Seok Woo has a real life..........." He was sort of begging/informing his fans to understand that he has a private life and he wants his fans to respect that part of his life. And he has every right to do so. Although, I don't understand why he has to do that? I guess South Korean fans are ultra-possesive and ultra-demanding that Rwn has to educate them, to draw the line? Unless, the English translation was utterly wrong?

     

    Anyway, these are the questions:

    1) Why do you think Rowoon gave this speech on June 11, 2023? Why now and why at this moment at Andz? You are free to speculate. I need all the brains and your thoughts.

     

    Answer:

     

    2) Do you think he is paving the way beforehand because he (or they, whoever the other one is) has something to reveal in the future?

     

    Answer:

     

    3) Do you think Rowoon is pre-empting a possible reveal from Dispatch? A few months ago there was a rumor (just a rumor) that Dispatch was going to reveal something about RoBin couple.

     

    Answer:

     

    Thank you for allowing me to pick your brains. Thanks for your thoughts in advance!

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  19. 14 hours ago, Wiz said:

    I have seen chemistry promotions in the US as well but it’s not as common. It may be because actors in the US are more open about their relationship status so it would be a harder sell to fake a “romance/chemistry” angle. Most K Actors  don’t really share their relationship status unless they get engaged or married. There has been a recent shift with K Actors beginning to confirm dating rumors more ( example: Jisoo and Ahn Bo Hyun ) and but this is still relatively new and most still don’t ever confirm who they are dating. I do think that there has been a shift in promotions for the crime/military/ revenge genre for K dramas. If you look at the Netflix shows like DP and the The Glory, there was a focus on the storytelling and why it was impactful  in the promotions.  Disney’s new show Moving  has a a lot of promotion around the story/action and why it’s compelling. I think what Park Eun Bin’s impact is that she is very intelligent, eloquent, humble and comes across authentically . Her promotion of EAW was flawless. She was able to connect with a worldwide audience through her one on one interview with Netflix and her Daesang speech has millions of views.  I’m going to cut Rowoon some slack because even though it’s cringey to watch,  he really can’t not participate in this type of promotion.  

    I agree on all points. Agree. Agree. Agree. We love PEB, too. In fact, we are in love with her. hehehe.

     

    It seems wrong to me that people can not date or go out if they want to. Last time I checked, South Korea is still a democratic country, unlike its twin to the North. hahaha. It still boggles my mind that two people have to hide, thus fomenting MORE speculation and suspicion. The more you hide it, the more folks will try to dig. Why not just come out in the open and be done with it? It would be a relief to all of us. It lessens the pressure on the two people. And lessens the reasons for people to lie and deceive. It lessens the hold/power of talent agencies to have TOTAL control of the lives of their talents to the point of slavery. IMHO, that it illegal to have Total Control. We are not in fascist or communist countries.

     

    It still boggles my mind that folks have to "ask" permission from their fans to date. Like. WHAT? And if they do date, their agencies send out a letter to the fans. Almost begging, short of apologizing? So sorry, I really find it absurd. Again, it could be cultural. But we are HUMAN first over something considered "cultural". Am I wrong?

     

    Yes, you are right. Rowoon signed a contract and that contract includes him participating in "cringey-chemistry" promotions. hahaha. Unless of course, Rwn totally enjoys it though? But in the end, IT IS a K-romance so I guess they have to "sell" the romance off-screen as well. Maybe, I am just being too harsh.

     

    Rowoon is a hearthrob: tall, good-looking, high IQ, can sing, can dance, can act. Therefore, OF COURSE production companies will leverage his "hearthrob status" in K-romances. The only way Rwn can escape this "hearthrob" status and be viewed as a serious actor with serious projects (outside K-romances) is to get a project that will SET HIM APART. Which will hopefully land him a Daesang. Just like PEB in EAW. If you remember, Rwn had a NF interview after the NF Swoon Mafia Game with PEB and NYS for TKA. There, he said something like with the success of shows like DP and Squid Game on NF (which weren't K-romances), he has ambitions to have the same kind of projects. Rwn is smart enough to realize that.

    He is starting to do that by accepting (hopefully) the role of a villian in TakRyu. Maybe, this will earn himself a Daesang.

     

     

     

     

    14 hours ago, Adrianna said:

    I am not someone who speak on this kind of topic but I gotta let this out of my chest that I been holding into. So hear me out right after rowoon birthday there was this insta account who posted rowoon and PEB going out, they were tagged all over PEB insta but I’m not sure if it was her or not because the picture was so blurry and it was at night so I couldn’t see much but the guy was rowoon I can see his face clear but the girl is hard to see . That person was taggging every second that picture like 15 to 16 times and I went back right next day that picture was gone from that account.. and I have not seen that picture begin linked anywhere. I was tryna find but I couldn’t. 

    Awww shucks! That would have been something to feast on. hahaha

     

    But why go out when the two can hang out in their own places? But, yeah they can not be cooped up in their places for so long. They have to go out. I wish they would just come out and be done with it. Unless, RoBin couple are truly 'just friends".

     

    Look at that IU girl and her partner. They admitted it. BOOM. DONE. NO SWEAT. NO BIG DEAL. Now, it has given them more publicity and promotion. Now, folks follow their every move. I always see them on YT Shorts. I don't click on it but I am sure others do. Why? Folks will support two people in love. Folks like happy endings. It enhances their public image because it shows that they are human/authentic like us. They are happy, they are sad, they fall in love, get married, etc.

     

    Just can't understand South Korean talent companies pushing and promoting "gimmicky fake-chemistry" but frown upon the real ones.

     

    Did that IU girl and other actresses get less projects because they admitted they are in a relationship? NO. Not a bit. It did not make a dent in her career. If anything else, I think it gave her more projects.

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  20. 7 hours ago, Wiz said:

    I like Park Eun Bin because she great at selling her projects (with thoughtful and in-depth analysis) while being her authentic self. I have not seen Park Eun Bin be flirty with co-stars to sell chemistry. She seems to be consistently pleasant, warm, kind and friendly in her interactions with co-stars.  The entertainment industry is very competitive and fickle. Some actors fall into the trap of selling chemistry with their co- stars instead of the project because it’s easier and it typically works. The Kings Affection was a unique experience for us fans of Park Eun Bin because she loved the project but she also seemed to have a true bond/connection with the cast. I will be watching  and supporting Rowoon’s new project but to me the promotion of #DestinedWithYou seems like the typical romance k- drama fan service/ promotion that I have been seeing in the last few years where there is now a focus on couple photo shoots, behind the scenes focus on the leads chemistry and couple content such as post engagement on social media like instagram. I think Rowoon is promoting the drama within the typical standards of what’s expected for a romance/ fantasy k-drama. I enjoy reading all the theories and analysis of our RoBin couple. 

    Yeah, PEB was never known to be flirty, Rwn, too.

     

    Yeah, and that is the part that I don't like. The off-putting, back-breaking, too-much-pressure promotions of K-romances. It looks too much of a hard-sell and trying mercilessly too hard. It is kinda painful to watch, if I am being honest.

     

    Okay, this is going to sound arrogant. I swear I am not. We live in the US and we don't see that kind of hard-sell promotions of romantic leads. Case in point and I will pick at random. We love the movie The Greatest Showman. Zendaya and Zac Efron are romantic leads in the movie. All you see as promotion of the two, would be maybe 3-4 interviews. mostly uploaded on YT. I don't see romantic spreads in magazines of Zac and Zendaya, too much emphasis on their "chemistry" as a way to sell the project. I am not talking about their fans actually posting things of them together. I am talking about official promotions of the movie. Unless, I am corrected there were interviews but the "romance" between the two were not the focus of the interviews. In other words, they believed on the "merits" of their project. Not the supposed "chemistry" or "love angle" of the FL and ML. Now, I am not saying that it is NON-EXISTENT here. In fact, Zendaya and that guy had magazine shoots for a Spiderman movie. But that was it. Not too much "chemistry" hard sell. But like you said, it is opposite of  the "typical standards" of a K-romance. But I will say this, I do agree that if the show does well, the actors should at least show themselves at least once on a Netflix promotion. 

     

    And maybe, it is just a cultural thing. I don't know. Maybe, I am just not used to it. 

    21 hours ago, mktgkat said:

    Oh.. It's just a thought in my head... You know "something in the rain"-son ye jin's kdrama the korean title if translated in english is pretty sister/noona who buys me food... It is in the promotional video of TKA... The TMI part. Where Eunbin said something like "he only eats protein and he does not even eat some chocolate I was offering him because it's carb...I feel so bad for him I hope he can eat very well already" and Rowoon said something like "Noona, buy me food." And she said "yes"/araseo(?)

    And now... I'm also thinking in my head about the food truck/s and probably the "anonymous fairy" sponsored food truck she's been sending him..... Hahahaha what a delulu thought... :smooches2:

    Start watching 5:06 the conversation I was talking about was around 5:46 look at the purple subtitle near rowoon's head

     

    And so if you know about "something in the rain/pretty noona who buys me food"... Well jung haein who played the ML was into sonyejin (FL) and they became a couple despite the resistance from his family and society... One of the resistance from family and society was because she was older than the guy... Hehehe.. just a thought running in my mind....

     

    Oh... So I misunderstood that he contacted PEB during the making Tomorrow...... Ok.. haha

    Another case of lost in translation ahaha

    Ahh! Okay, I don't watch any other SK actors and actresses. No one else is worthy of that much of my time. hahaha. We only watch and consume anything and everything with RoBin in it. So I don't know who that son ye jin is. Sorry. But thanks for the clarification.

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  21. 1 hour ago, mktgkat said:

    Ohh... I was thinking the same thing like it was because of the upcoming military service. He has to go next year right? Or does he have 2 more years?

    Wow, I haven't heard of any news that he will be playing a villain but I was actually waiting for that! I was curious how he will play a villain! When I saw Tomorrow, he played an empathetic grim reaper... But I was curious what if he was the one playing the role of the--- the one who was selling gas to the suicidal people....  Coz I felt he was really torn in that scene, it was intense!  I loved it so much. And I also felt that was what he talked to Eunbin-"noona" (pretty noona who buys me food) about...(I forgot about the conversation) It was such a complicated scene. Great writing and directing, of course the actors were AMAZING as well.

    I will be looking forward to his villain role! :sparklyeyes:

    My understanding is that he will go next year because he turns 28 y/o next year. Unless, someone corrects me. hehehe

     

    His role in TakRyu will be a Gangster turned into Legend. I think it is based loosely on an actual man during the Joseon Dynasty. So it will be historical fact with some artistic liberty. I am not too sure. But it will be SUPER DUPER AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    Really, he talked to PEB about that gas scene in Tomorrow? That particular scene? Do you mind sharing that with me? Where did you read or watch that? Please share?

     

    I read somewhere that he was so into his role as Jung Ji-Un in TKA, that he was so confused when he played the role in Tomorrow. He had a hard time transitioning. That is when he asked PEB for help. And PEB helped him. That is the reason why, Rwn was nominated for that role in Tomorrow. He didn't win but was nominated. That means something and speaks volumes for someone who was so confused about his role in Tomorrow. That means he gets nominated even without trying that hard. That's how good he is. hahaha.

     

    I love Tomorrow, especially the case about the forgotten Korean veteran who sacrificed everything for his country and no one seemed to care about him. And the case about the Korean women who were Comfort Women for the Japanese. I wailed and cried so hard on those two cases. It was so wonderfully done. Then the seriousness of the cases was balanced out with Rwn's comedic timing. It was so good. In fact, we liked Tomorrow better than She Would Never Know. If we are being honest. hehehe.

    1 hour ago, mktgkat said:

    Ohh... I was thinking the same thing like it was because of the upcoming military service. He has to go next year right? Or does he have 2 more years?

    Wow, I haven't heard of any news that he will be playing a villain but I was actually waiting for that! I was curious how he will play a villain! When I saw Tomorrow, he played an empathetic grim reaper... But I was curious what if he was the one playing the role of the--- the one who was selling gas to the suicidal people....  Coz I felt he was really torn in that scene, it was intense!  I loved it so much. And I also felt that was what he talked to Eunbin-"noona" (pretty noona who buys me food) about...(I forgot about the conversation) It was such a complicated scene. Great writing and directing, of course the actors were AMAZING as well.

    I will be looking forward to his villain role! :sparklyeyes:

    Sorry, I didn't get the joke about Eunbin noona who buys me food? Could you kindly elaborate? Thanks so much!

  22. 17 minutes ago, mktgkat said:

    Agree, his wrist was the part touching her shoulder. Yes to rowoon ALWAYS touching peb... And also can't take his eyes off of her. Since PEB's so full of cuteness and charm, it is understandable. Hahaha

    :smooches2:

    Yup yup!:hooray:

    rowoon fighting! I feel so bad when I saw some latest vids of him he seems so tired and his eye bags are so big. Hopefully he gets to rest well after filming wedding battle.

    I know right? FNC is trying to work him to death. Milking every working minute off of him before he ships out for the Military. Poor guy! No rest. Actually, more than his romance shows. We are eagerly waiting for his show TakRyu or Muddy Stream wherein he plays a villan. We can't wait to see him play a villain! He will be super awesome! He will definitely win a Daesang for this villain role!

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  23. 8 minutes ago, Penny said:

    Pen G you understand exactly what I meant. I'm really think  that they should leave the actor and actress be natural. 

    Here in below is an example in king's affection that at the begining Rowoon was also follow the indication of someone to create fake  chemestry with PEB. And as she is clever girl she has said something that he was acting. Check in the video 00:20

     

    TKA BTS Ep 5-6

     

    As I assume someone indicate him to avoid viewer to have emphathy to the hwi-cousin couple. 

    At the end when the time go throught. All the BTS are sincery, otherwise PEB would not accept to play this kind of fake  promotion game. 

     

    Yes, you are right! I agree.

     

    And yet, I really believe Rwn was sincere in trying to protect PEB. Yes, he did it for the camera but I also believe he was still trying to protect PEB and he was really trying to brush the leaves off PEB's hat. Rowoon is a very clean and orderly man, he does not like trash around and disorder. He likes to clean. hahaha. In the Blu-Ray DVD and in some videos, he was seen brushing off some dirt from PEB's hand. So, I think he was sincere when he removed the dirt from PEB's hat, even if he was smiling for the camera when he did it. hahahaha.

    6 minutes ago, mktgkat said:

    I feel the same. It actually turns me off a lot and I feel stressed on whether I will watch it next week or not but of course to support rowoon I will have to watch..... 

    The success of EAW, I feel, because it has no story like that yet, like a high functioning autism drama. Many people especially families who have a family member who has autism spectrum from all over the world resonated and supported because it probably gave them some comfort as they were able to relate in many ways. I saw a lot of posts in YT of people who has autism voicing out their opinion about EAW and how they were able to relate.

    Woo Young Woo is really a good character, like a breath of fresh air to the world and PEB was really exceptional with her acting. She really gave justice to her role. 

    That being said, the PDs of destined with you should just chill and hope that they really did a good job and that people will want to watch their drama. I'm rooting for Rowoon's success. He is a good actor as well as his cast mates. It's showing next week! Ok... I am just going to watch, I will probably regret it if I don't watch. :hooray:

    Actually, there are some Skor drama that tackled ASD before EAW. But most of these shows featured ASD always as "victims" like being attacked, being bullied, being retarded and stupid, you know the overly-dramatic "victim-mentality" (although there are ASD folks being bullied and attacked in real life). But you are right, EAW was a breath of fresh air for ASD folks. They showed an ASD person's triumphs and failures in a "normal" world. And they portrayed it in a not-too-serious-tone. They didn't feature ASD as just being bullied, attacked, retarded and stupid.

     

    Support Rowoon even if the PD is a goof-ball. hahaha. Because after all his name is on the line. He is DEFINITELY a great actor and in such a short-time has achieved a lot of awards. Good for him.

     

    Let's all support Rowoon with Destined With You showing on August 23, 2023 on Netflix. Let's make his show get into the Top 10 on NF as soon as it premiers on August 23, 2023. It is important to watch early and if all the episodes are ALL uploaded all at the same time, please watch ALL episodes in one sitting if at all possible. If not, please watch all episodes as soon as these are uploaded weekly usually 9 am the day of sked. If you can binge watch the show and watch it many times, please kindly do so. It helps get his show to the Top 10. Please? Let us show Rowoon our love and support!

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