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  1. You can call this a note to the future me (that might re-read this at the end of the series). As of today, EP 11 will air tomorrow - the trailer has been long translated and 

     

    What I am hyped for (pretty secured through EP11 trailer and others):

    - The psycho x Su Ryeon's living bio daughter facing off

    - psycho's great escape back to the Penthouse

    - psycho getting owed by the Haeyon (where he got the money last two episodes)

    - the psycho's fall from the penthouse to his death

     

    - Diva getting exposed for her murder of the backstabby B

    - Diva's daughter getting the hell she deserves

    - Diva suffering. Just her suffering.

     

    - RN living the life of a prima donna she deserves, with SH at her side

    - RN x SH reunion

    - Jenny and her family being happy after her father comes clean about how and what has happened for the two murders

     

     

    What I hope and theorize might happen, my questions:

    - The queen's living bio daughter exposing the diva's 'murder' towards her dad back in S1

    - The evidence of it magically appearing again since the diva didn't really delete the video 

    - Sickly-sexy Dr. Ha telling his daughter that Ro Na is her half-sister, making her go crazy (since she is related to the person who has been bringing her life upside down, and/or since despite the olive branch RN handed her, she was the reason why backstabby B died, and wrongfully so. (Hope - Theory: the girl is going to become a junkie.)

     

    - I wonder how the police and judge will be involved. And how our Queen will throw shade, since in the end of S2, psycho was sent to lifetime prison due to multiple charges, but somehow he got free without all of us knowing how (I mean blaming Logan on sb's death is not gonna make his charges miraculously disappear, the whole things with RN, the 'trying to lie the court', etc.)

     

    - Diva going crazy by herself (due to her daughter sneaking in the meds), asking for Backstabby B's forgiveness for killing her, slashing her throat in a public setting, with the 'friends' who graduated from Seoul Music Uni somehow supporting - at this point Diva has no other choice but to admit all that she has done

    - Diva's little sweetheart becoming a junkie with her obssessive housemaid as a drug supply line (where she get da money doe...?)

    - Backstabby B coming back for her daughter... she needs u ajumma...

     

    - Possible investigation on how the psycho died? (since that was the opening scene)

    - How will the whole 'incident-five-years-ago' with Jenny's dad taking the fall come to light?

    - How is Min Hyuk and his mom going to trick the comedic re-lee-f family?

     

     

    I'll add more later. 

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  2. 11 minutes ago, Songbae said:

    As a YH apologist I don't want her to die and i am angry that they didn't tell her that her child was alive. 

    If she killed MSA then  death is just an easy way out for her. They still haven't solved MSA's case.

    So when is Minhyuk going to get his Karma because the Seokhoon and jenny have gotten theirs. Seokyung in a way and EB also

    I am guessing that Min Hyuk's karma will arrive the moment his leech lawyer parents' schemes get exposed. Imagine the bullying he will be subjected to by our usual squad - and this time it's gonna hit harder since last time he bullied Jenny by using her mom's job, she basically replied that her mom wasn't lying or stealing or doing anything shameful - whereas his parents actually ended up getting into jail for their deeds, which is far more shameful than what Ma Ri did/does. It might drive him towards a better character development, or he might not be redeemed at all.

     

    Seeing SK redeemed makes me glad in a way (if I think of her as a hedgehog) but on the other hand I don't want SK redemption, if I think back about how much she enjoyed bullying others. But I guess if I see her actively help out people who get bullied, then I can find it in my heart to forgive her.

    3 minutes ago, kboramint said:

     

    Honestly, I think she's going to try hurting Rona next. Because she was EB's rival.  She is the drama's version of Seo Kang Hee

    I can definitely imagine that happening. What I even believe is that if she did drive YH to commit suicide, in a way she has already started hurting Ro Na - since RN will have lost her only mother who was by her side since she was born (yeah, she may see the penthouse ajumma as her guardian figure, but still, YH was her mom who stuck with her all her life). 

     

    I wonder how the yandere ssaem is gonna hurt RN though, since RN has the Joo Protection squad right by her side. And with Seok Hun finally acting the protective, supportive boyfriend that we wanted him to be, I'd say she's pretty secure.

     

    What I definitely wanna know is the following: as of now, only the Yun-Yun couple know that RN's sperm donor is YC. With YH being possibly dead via suicide, it's just YC - he basically has to decide whether he is going to torment his diva daughter by making it public (since telling RN is in a way making it public as well and that info will seep, esp. if YH is dead and RN really ends up being an orphan) or if he is going to keep his silence and watch RN tread through life as an orphan (Theoretically she has Su Ryeon, and I'm willing to bet a few bucks that she'd get adopted if it comes down to it) since YC kinda doesn't deserve to be RN's father after all that he has done towards YH and RN.

     

    And of course, how is EB going to react to all this - will this lead to that yandere ssaem's hold on her getting stronger than ever? (Since in EB's mind she's gonna see our newest revelation about RN's dad as YC abandoning EB even though it was never YC's fault)

     

    On a different note, I am wondering how that slimy teacher's character is going to come to end (I mean the preview shows him pointing out towards the corrupt assemblyman/leech lawyer and I'm guessing he's still gonna enjoy being rich for a longer while...)

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  3. Wait, couldn't that creepy ssaem have driven YH to suicide so as to make EB feel better knowing her mom's rival is dead and her own rival now has no parents anymore?

     

    It would def fit the cray-cray scheme, as in a newly-arising craziness they have to deal with.

     

    To add to everything, we have Logan's parents now being investigated, which they def deserve (seeing as they used Seol A, and good boy, Logan, cooperating like he should - I still think there must have been some kind of communication between Logan himself and his parents since how did he come back to Korea after he ended up in that psycho's hands?) That deserves (but may not necessarily get) screentime, as well as how the investigation ends up on Logan's parents - I hope Logan gets a reduced sentence since he did repent for his mistakes in his own way and helped Seol A in ways he was capabe of and to the extent Seol A accepted.

     

    Now it gets more crazy that YH didn't know that RN was alive since that was broadcasted in national TV. It's either that or YH deliberately decided not to meet her daughter and take her own life (or at least tried to) as means to repent for having separated a mother from her child once before.

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  4. The HELL was that ending - I can somehow understand that YH was in such an unstable mindset and everyone was just focused on getting that psychopath in prison that no one noticed YH's depression that brought her to suicide. But like,

     

    Spoiler

    Yun Hee, no, don't kill yourself - what are you doing - your daughter is alive, don't rob her of her mom, I thought we had a happy ending, please, come back to life, don't make us assume the worst, chaebal-

     

    But frustration aside, that leaves us with a few other plotlines (adding to the list of plotlines I posted a page back or so):

    1. If RN hears about her mother's suicide, then she'd assume herself an orphan since she has neither a mom (suicide) or a dad (since for all she knows, her dad is dead for years) That means The RN-YC confrontation is going to be sooo intense since

        a. RN will have to confront the truth about her birth without her mother (so no emotional support)

        b. to add, her father is a guy who tried to sabotage her own performance for his other daughter without a single thought about her and he couldn't make her mother happy despite her having asked that of him

     

    But on the other hand, that would make it far easier for Su Ryeon and Logan to adopt RN and get her away from the toxic environment that is Korea/Hera Palace, you name it. Esp. that trailer makes me wanna see the twins start a new life with RN somewhere else.

     

    Then we have the two new characters (I think?) due next week. I wonder how they are going to contribute to the plot.

    I believe there will be a scene next episode where the leech lawyers are in jail and Jenny's mom having something to do with it.

     

    There is also the deal with EB, now that I'm guessing both her father and mother are in jail and the creepy tutor is getting all possessive over her.

     

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  5. When the viewers can't be happy because they arrived at the happy 'end' far too early...

     

    Seriously, this episode made me smile and scream against my pillow and whatnot in the dead of the night, but at the same time, like everyone else said, it's too good to be true. A few unsolved threads:

     

    1. The psycho's past going public

    2. The misdeeds of the Cheon Family against Yun Hee going public

    3. Ro Na confronting her sperm donor and Eun Byeol with her mother getting the news that RN is sick dude's biological daughter

    4. How will Yun Hee pay for her crimes against Seol A - (and was Seol A even killed by Yun Hee I'm still not sure on that part) possibly Yun Hee's murder going public

    5. The whole deal with Na Ae Gyo while Su Ryeon was alive - what exactly happened?

    6. Cheong A foundation finding out their current head 'killed' their former head - suspiscious how EB didn't react to her losing the video (or maybe prideful dumb diva actually eat the SIM card and the video is still there)

    7. How will the tutor play in all this? What exactly was her role and what did the 'step out of the line' actually mean (it was written in her character description)

    8. The whole deal with Ma Ri's hubby taking the fall for that psycho and Jenny finding it out (preferably through her mother)

    9. The epic, ultimate fall of the leeching lawyers and their son (sry hard to see a redemption for the dude who just has fun watching other people get uncomfortable and suffer)

    10. RN and YH's reunion (or maybe none - as part of a deal between Su Ryeon and Ro Na - RN asking SR to keep her away from her own mother so as to atone for her mom's crimes and asking to be sent to the US)

     

    11. The LoganxSuRyeon moments we have been waiting for at the start of S2

    12. The SeokRoNa ChocoMilk Pasta Date!

     

     

    There prbly is much more that needs to be unraveled. But this much for now.

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  6. 47 minutes ago, kboramint said:

    RIP Na AeKyo. We hardly knew you.  Makes you wonder though, how much of SSR in episode 20-21 was NAK. 

    Still would mean NAG actually died back in EP 20/21. The way she spoke to Logan made me think that her 'run away' was just because she didn't want an innocent third party to be involved in the affair between her and her ex-husband (as in her husband should be convicted, not some innocent person). 

     

    I'd love to see the part where Su Ryeon and Ae Gyo meet up and change/swap places.

     

    But still, that means that if the twins did meet their mother before their father goes down, Su Ryeon has to lie to them and insist that she is Ae Gyo, worse, she'd have to act indifferent towards them if they met in front of the psychopath.

     

    Imagine she survives the psycho and after all that she goes to the twins and tells them that she has been their supposedly-dead stepmother all along... I guess SH would understand the circumstances but SK would flip like hell to be betrayed like that - and we'd have a brat SK scene.

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  7. 32 minutes ago, Dddddddnnnnnnrrrrrrrr said:

    I was thinking the same, Rona should have run towards the auditorium where everyone was instead going to the damn staircase

    I really don't want to blame Ro Na here, but I also agree. If she did run into the auditorium (where I hope the doors are open, since when I saw her running, the doors into the hall (I think) didn't look like they could be easily opened) there would be a lot of witnesses, and important ones at that - which would render that inferiority-complex weasel and her family in a place where they can't bribe their way out of this 'scandal' and said inferiority-complex weasel has no other choice but to see the truth that yes, she is mentally instable.

     

    What could also work was to call someone, or even 110 or the Korean equivalent or just run the moment she gets dizzy and get an adult, or someone with medical knowledge. Then, Ro Na would be safe, and inferiority-complex weasel would maybe be able to get out of her spree of murder.

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  8. Of course Ro Na has a plan. With Logan at that. Obviously, she's not going into a pit of venomous snakes after facing the aftermaths for two whole years without a plan. I actually commend her that she's going to take the trophy in Seol A's name. 

     

    I may not be 100% sympathetic towards her but I commend her for everything. She needs more cunning, we see that - like what about the security cameras etc.? Enough about her.

     

    Honestly, the real scum is both Seok Kyung and Eun Byeol. I'm sorry for my choice of words, but not sorry for pointing out what is there before her eyes - a lot of the people seem to hate Ro Na more than the real scum, so I just wanted to add this. I really hope they get what they deserve - that slap (though as satisfying as it has felt) is nowhere enough. They really need to go through mental hell until they see exactly where they went wrong.

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  9. 1 hour ago, Secretz said:

    I cannot understand Rona's motive and reason for wanting to return to Cheong A High School. If you're disgusted by your mother, then stay away from her as much as possible by staying in America. WHAT IS THE POINT OF RETURNING?!?!?!? Good luck surviving that flight of stairs and that trophy in your head, you chose that, I guess. I seriously don't know why the writer had to find a weak reason, which doesn't make absolute sense, just so Rona can be in the chaos, again. The fact that she kneeled in front of CSJ? I'm confused. 

    I'm curious as well. What pushed her to return to Korea? She's having a good life in the US with the prizes and is well on her way to secure herself a place from where she can exact revenge against those snobby rich kids. For someone who has managed to escape the social murder for two years and know the value of family etc. etc., I am expecting a bit more intelligence, but would still like to give her the benefit of doubt.

     

    And I do hope she survives the flight of stairs if she was indeed the one who fell down and got the trophy stuck in her head, and moves on from everything that is holding her back there in Cheong A High.

     

    2 hours ago, Secretz said:

    Ok, so now we see OYH feeling guilty in episode 3. I think it would be a lot better if that scene was shown in episode 1, because a lot of us thought OYH pretended it didn't happen. But yeah, she said she will turn herself in after taking revenge.

    I guess we have been seeing Yun Hee in association with psychopath, patricidal diva or Dr. Ha (ally but might not want to lower her guard completely) and I guess she didn't feel safe enough to let her guard down - that would be my assessment from what I have seen. I mean, she has a clear goal to work towards and a clear plan (at least until RN came back), so she needs to keep up her poker face - and can't really let her regret show in front of those vile snakes who aim to remove her at earliest chance possible.

     

    2 hours ago, Secretz said:

    I should've known that I shouldn't trust HYC. NEVER EVER. That moment he chose CSJ, that's it. I can't believe I see hope in Yoon Yoon. WE'RE JUST THREE EPISODES IN AND YOU'RE KISSING MORE THAN JDT. 

     

    I am not quite sure what happened there but I am not liking the development. If that is only a means to sow discord between patricidal diva and psychopath, then I can somehow defend his actions, but overall, this was a bad move by Dr. Ha.

     

    2 hours ago, Secretz said:

    I also do not understand why SH had to ride a motorbike with EB. I THOUGHT HE COULDN'T FORGET ABOUT RONA?!?!? He's not threatened to do it or anything so WHY? And siding with your sister?!?!?!? WTH?

    I can somehow justify him using Eun Byeol to break up their parents' marriage etc. etc. but Seok Hun just lost his right to stand beside Ro Na by not protecting her when he was presented with the chance. 

     

    For all Ro Na has suffered through, I wish she'd get herself a good support system (be it through a friend, a group of friends, or hell, even a love interest), fulfil the promise of taking the Cheong A Arts Festival trophy, either leave Korea or cut ties with the poisonous load, leave the past behind and move on towards being a successful soprano by herself.

     

    If Ro Na did die, that would also serve the purpose of leaving Seok Hun with crippling regret for not stepping up when he had the chance (similar to, but even worse than Su Ryeon's situation immediately after Seol A's death in this case - too late to protect the one that mattered and left alone in a cage of venomous snakes)

    6 minutes ago, Mina Rose said:

    I need y'all to answer a question for me. I'm a bit confused as to what Bae Rona was doing in the last two years. In the first episode of Season 2, we see that she was working part-time jobs to support herself, went to a different high school and that Jenny was leaving her food at a location. Many of you guys are saying that Rona was in the states with Logan, when did she go to the States? How do y'all know that she was with Logan Lee? After her mother returned and handed herself over to the police and was afterwards released, did her mom send her off to Logan?

     

    The confusion is real.

    Yun Hee was acquitted three months before the engagement party between psychopath and patricidal diva. That was due to the death of the housekeeper (mid-ep 1). In these three months, Yun Hee prbly took her daughter and went to the US, then met Dr. Ha somehow ( I dunno what happened there) and returned to Korea WITHOUT Ro Na. (That is until Ro Na came back by herself.)

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  10. 17 minutes ago, kimdaehwi said:

    I’m going to say what is on my mind about episode 2:

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    1. >Episode 2 is a huge disappointment, not only that Rona came back, but she had an issue with her mother like season 1 and now she kneeled infront of Seojin again like RickRoll'D gurl get out of there before you get killed. She doesn’t listen to her mother again omg i can’t with these kids<

    2. >I was very glad that Yoonhee had an advantage over Seojin due to that shadow singer concert thingy but now Seojin gets an upper hand because Rona came back, urghhh<

    3. >Seokhoon and Eunbyeol were riding motorcycles together and they talked about sth. The best part is he rejected her from holding hand<

    4. >Jenny getting bullied and when Rona came back, she still sided with the bullies and made Rona the one who cause Minhyuk’s broken hand when she didn’t even do anything. Also Minhyuk’s parents blame on Yoonhee omg I can’t with these parents. Jenny’s character development also went down after all these<

    5. >So you tell me Dr Ha still has feeling for Seojin?? Why would you pretend then? Yoon-Yoon couple is cancel y’all. He even went to Seojin’s bathroom and kissed her like a husband just came from military after serving for 10 years tbh<

    6. >One thing I am annoyed the most is why Seokhoon still listen to his twin. Omg he was willing to help Rona but suddenly stopped because of Seokkyung? I love Seokkyung acting but her character is so messed up. Sorry, I don’t like her at all<

     

    Tbh, our Yoon-Yoon couple is still dumb, they can’t do a simple task and not thinking ahead. I can’t believe I was rooting for them. Can’t wait for Shim Suryeon return and Logan Lee full sketch plan coz rn the writer managed to give him at least one scene every episodes if not, imma throw hands lol

    Ok, all the development we saw and hoped to see in the first two episodes got wrekkt by EP3 and Ro Na's return. Though I did like Ro Na x Seok Hun, he just doesn't deserve her, and though I do see his potential to protect Ro Na, she really shouldn't use him as a shield, you never know when he'll betray her.

     

    I really don't know what made her return to Cheong A, she has been living a successful life back in the US, and could have basically continued doing so, all the while her mother could power-play patricidal diva haaard. There definitely was some communication back in the US, and (forgive me this might be wrong since raw and twitter was all I had as of the moment I wrote this) there was indeed some communication we had wished to see, but it just seemed to fly out of the window the moment we have the similar constellation as Season 1. WHY the relapse? I do not want to see a bright girl like Ro Na suffer again. She has had enough, and she could have just gone on living her life even better than those Junior Hera trash.

     

    For this episode, I am disappointed with Seok Hun. It's been two years, pretty sure Yun Hee is innocent, and Seok Hun still won't protect Ro Na. Watching her with silent tears and heartbreak from afar won't make you more worthy of her love, Mr.-watch-from-the-sidelines.

     

    Oh, and I am disappointed with Jenny as well. If she was in fact brave enough to stand against the Hera trash back in EP1, why can't she in EP3? What exactly is going on in her head that she is being so submissive, not defending Ro Na again?

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  11. 2 hours ago, MAHJONG KING said:

    My conspiracy theory is  CSJ secretary. He told CSJ that he will delete the recording footage capture by the CCTV at the guardhouse. He will use it to threaten CSJ to the end of season 2. 

    It was shown that EB took the video of the diva committing patricide. she was also at school and recorded it to actually help her mother be innocent but didn't know it would serve as a murder evidence. 

     

    That is shown when EB wakes from her coma and starts saying she wants pasta with a lot of garlic. 

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  12. 9 hours ago, Songbae said:

    Seokhoon needs therapy and also he should be honest with his sister. That girl needs a reality check. I just want him to be a better person and get out from his fathers grip. His character should not be a rich boy pining after a girl that looks like she is over him.

     

     

    I don't even know whether someone will get through to her - she would just ruin everything. I think that SH has been suspicious about about the identity of his mom's murderer since he witnessed the give-and-take scene between his father and the yandere housemaid.

     

    Like, SK couldn't believe that the housemaid killed her mother just because she treated them well - a look in the housemaid's room and that's pretty much a huge reality-check, but SK just doesn't want her current 'world' to crumble around her. She's too prideful and she's holding on that pride no matter what.

     

    Same with her bullying the weak - she can't stand Eun Byeul but works with her, and the kids that bullied her when the Seol-A-Lynching incident came to public to bully the poor. Even in the same clique, she doesn't have much influence anymore.

     

    Funny enough, where is Seok Hun all this time? How far did he cut ties with his sis? He's trying to get onto the right path by himself, that much can be said. But I don't think him being honest with his sis will help even one bit cuz she's in her own world and not even he can bring her out at this point.

     

    Well deserved for Seok Kyung, I guess - instead of trying to understand her own mother, she let herself be wrapped up in her feelings, and stayed wrapped up in them. (To forgive someone like that takes a lot of mental restraint and discipline, but it's not impossible.)

     

    9 hours ago, Songbae said:

    I don't think that there was coercion when yoonchul picked cheong A over yunhee. He was thinking about himself alone and he got what he deserved a loveless marriage with a crazy cheater. 

     

     

    Fair enough, I guess. I see. I wonder what he is up to.

     

    9 hours ago, Songbae said:

    Also i think it is weird how people forget about the lawyer, his wife and mari. Like i get that they are funny but they are also not good people either. And i am not a fan of the cheating arc that they might be in.

     

    Actually, if the comedy trio can somehow break themselves apart, then I'd definitely like it - they deserve it for being the silent culprits and not stand up for what is moral and just, allowing themselves to be a gear in the chain of corruption.

     

    9 hours ago, leegary said:

    I couldn't watch the "eating" scene with Jeni I just couldn't stomach what they were doing to her.  It's amazing that they dont have school shootings in SK with that severe bullying, they always end up committing suicide.

     

    I really felt for her and also couldn't watch the scene completely - I hope something good happens to Jenny, like the new-found golden voice Yun Hee personally vocal coaching her (and Ro Na of course), all the while the vocal coach of Eun Byeul, Seok Kyung and the gang starts failing at her jobs. And Jenny suddenly getting good grades because she has been studying with Ro Na.

     

    I really wish Jenny won't change back her heart to evil that soon.

    7 hours ago, Madu Mita said:

    Can you have lust and passion without loving someone though? I think you should atleast like them in a certain sense?

     

    I guess that is how prostitution works? Patricidal diva, in my eyes, just looks like an object with a certain worth to the psychopath. I just crack every day at how much the two fight on the topic of Oh Yun Hee and Ha Yun Cheul.

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  13. 6 minutes ago, Songbae said:

    To me when she found out that she was the killer and suryeon confessed that she was soela's mother it was a lot and her first thought was probably Rona

     

    I am of the same opinion. Imagine you are a mother, and there are 2 alternatives. (a) will 100% affect your daughter's reputation but nothing else, (b) is worse than a, and possibly more dangerous but there is a slight possibility (say, 10%) that your daughter comes out of this scot-free. YH chose option b, and didn't end up being included in the 10%.

     

    9 minutes ago, Songbae said:

    None of the characters are innocent they all have issues.

     

    Different shades of morally grey. Su Ryeon was, I guess the whitest but she was grey anyway.

     

    @Songbae what exactly do you expect from Seok Hun in the future?

    also @SongbaeHow much coercion do you think was there when Yun Cheul chose Cheong A over Yun Hee? (It still doesn't excuse him though)

    14 minutes ago, Songbae said:

    I am not excusing Oh yoon hee's actions in any way.

    And what would she need to do for you to 'forgive' her?

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  14. 19 minutes ago, chococarmela said:

    It’s just a show, no need to beat on a single character 24/7.

    True bruh. Preach.

     

    7 minutes ago, Curlytop Asmr Lee said:

    WHy 3 seasons of this? Does it really take that long to get the evil ppl the punishment they deserve?  I don't know if I can keep watching that long. I love the show but the constand evil winning is getting annoying.

     

    Cuz in real life, there is a lot of corruption. For them to get revenge that easily would be 'unrealistic' actually. That's usually how it is - and for some it's reality (maybe not the whole murder parts but the essence is). You need some thorough planning and execution to dethrone people like that. The right opening, the right backup, the right countermeasure, etc. etc. It's never that easy. Sadly.

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  15. Hope you don't mind me butting in the discussion as well. The rich dude-poor chick trope is very well washed out indeed, and I agree it's getting old (guess I'm too much a sucker for it?).

     

    8 minutes ago, chococarmela said:

    I don’t get the immense hate for Rona at all.

    Me neither. Though I may be very disappointed about how she acts up to the only one who has supported her all the time,  I am still amazed at her fortitude, mental strength and determination. For me, her arc is first and foremost to reconcile with her mom and become open to more communication between the two of them. And then the generation-crossed revenge / righting wrongs. Talented as she is, she deserves a place in the world of music.

     

    (Maybe her being a bit more manipulative?)

     

    What is interesting about Seokrona is, in my opinion, how much of a change Ro Na can invoke in Seok Hun without doing much - she did fall for him at one point, but got over it (probably in the two years). She hasn't changed that much on his influence (maybe the 'don't easily trust people'-part), but he did change a lot on her influence. (And yeah, that's the washed out part) And it's also interesting to see how much Seok Hun acts upon it - since he was the passive dude in both ways (be it the bullying or protecting part) and the tag of war is pretty interesting to see.

     

    As of S2Ep1, from what I gather, she is basically over him. He isn't. It never gets boring to see the player getting played hard.

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  16. 21 minutes ago, Songbae said:

    I don't know why people hate yoonhee. Yes she killed Min Seol Ah but she wasn't in a right state of mind. I see it as a mistake and i still have second thoughts about her being the killer. Also she never really wanted to kill Suryeon. Her avenging Suryeon is not her being guilty about wanting to kill her. It is oh yoon hee wanting to avenge the only friend that she had. Also all oh yoon hee wanted to do was to give rona a good life and let's not forget that rona was a spoilt brat who snapped at her mother for everything.

     

    EUNBYEOL needs help.

    I actually believed in Yun Hee before the revelations of EP16. And I still kinda believe in her. But you know, being drunk may excuse you in court to lighten the sentence, but the fact that you were the one who took away the tomorrows of this child with its limitless possibilities, especially while you are drunk, makes it much worse. Was her life only that much worth that it could be ended in a drunken stupor? You may have the Übermensch, or even the Mensch (cuz Yun Hee sees herself in Seol A to an extent), hindering you while you were sane and sober, but taking a life is inexcusable, drunk or not.

     

    The moral 'nonsense' aside, what makes me personally hate her more is the fact that she was not even one bit apologetic towards Su Ryeon about it on her own. (Which made me start calling Yun Hee 'backstabby B') If she had apologized and repented and at the end, turned herself in to the police after all revenge is completed, then I would've somehow recognized it - doesn't mean it makes the murder lighter - you can't really murder someone in a drunken stupor, apologize and go on living your life!

     

    Now that Su Ryeon is not here, I only have YH to rely on for revenge and despite her past, I hope she succeeds. I hope the patricidal diva gets what she deserves (now that concerning music, YH will become the puppetmaster and the diva will lose her influence, her daughter becoming a lot more bold and manipulative and has the leverage to blackmail her, etc. etc.) as does the psychopath (I wish Seok Kyung would overhear him declaring his joy over having successfully killed Su Ryeon and then things spiraling downward for him from that point on) and all others who deserve it.

     

    I think Jenny had a good retribution. The whole Su Ryeon/Logan revenge plan made her think about their bullying more - leading her to side with innocent Ro Na for two whole years. I hope she stays that way. But Seok Kyung, Eun Byeul and Min Hyuk definitely need some sense beaten into them and more suffering, far more suffering.

     

    And to Ro Na of the first season, I have no excuse for her - yes she has to endure a lot from her surrounding but it doesn't give her the right to snap at the only person who would stay at her side and support her no matter what. Maybe she has learnt her lesson at the start of Season 2.

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  17. 2 minutes ago, Secretz said:

    Does anyone see the connection with Rona and MSA? It'd make sense if Rona is the one dying. If that happens, the cycle will repeat, and I don't think that's a good thing. I'm not sure if I want to watch Season 2 if we're seeing the same pattern. By then, I'll give the drama the benefit of the doubt, maybe the girl isn't Rona, and even if it's her, she'll survive despite the sharp object stabbed onto her head.

     

    Btw, if you remember in season 1, there was a scene where the kids bullied Rona and called her MSA 2.0. Could be a foreshadow.

     

    I guess. If it was RN who dies, (which I am praying does not happen), then her mother has gotten herself a slap from Lady Karma. She'd kinda be the new 'Su Ryeon'. The way RN's character turns out to be is dangerously heading that way - but then I don't think either Logan, RN's mom, RN's stepdad(?) or SH would stay still at this point.

     

    RN's mom: foreshadowing in this ep.

    Logan: possibly his support towards RN from the shadows, but this would the third innocent person dead - as they say, third time's the charm.

    Dr. Ha: I'm not sure what he can do - we'll see.

    SH: the love of his life died in front of him - if he still stays on the sidelines, well that would be a great disappointment.

     

    There are theories that the one who fell and the one who had that part of Cheong A trophy (I think it was one of the wings, maybe?) etched inside her skull are different people since that piece wasn't there when said girl fell. What happened between is what I'd like to see.

     

    But a fall from half a flight of stairs is not that deadly (I hope?) - since Seol A also fell from a few flights of stairs and a little statue fell on top of her head and she still went on limping around the apartment complex.

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  18. Huge SPOILER ALERT for the whole post.

     

    I just wanted to get this off my chest.

     

    At the end of S1, we have backstabby dumbhead (in short dumbhead) as a fugitive, with Logan on her side - something must've happened between the two in the two-year-span between S1 end and S2 beginning. Patricidal diva (in short diva) and psychopath (in short psycho) are living together. RN is effectively an orphan.

     

    From what I have gathered from the first 2/3 of S2E1 (leaving out the Arts Festival), dumbhead has lost all her assets, including the apartment in Hera Palace. That means Ro Na is broke. Probably she has also been expelled from Cheong A Arts, (now attending Mirae Girls Commercial High School) and her reputation precedes her. She works part-time jobs and from the looks of it, she's the Korean equivalent of a no-alternative freeter, jumping from one part-time job to another just to survive.

     

    One silver lining is that Jenny is helping her all this time, with or without Ro Na's knowledge; as in at some point during the two years, RN might believe JN has stopped openly helping her, and someone anonymous has been supporting her from the shadows from that point on.

     

    To Ro Na's character development: we have a girl who has been hit haaard by reality, and who lived the harshest of lives for the last two years. It would be obvious to expect that she has matured by that point, having to juggle between school, part-time job, and daily household chores, and having to watch how much she spends to make sure she has rent etc. The deprivation of her mother in that time would definitely make her go back into herself and think of what she can do to live happily. What I am hoping is that with her experiences from the last two years, she'll have learnt to fix her communication problem with her mother starting from Season 2.

     

    On Jenny's character development: I am guessing she has undergone a change of heart. By the way she stood up for Ro Na and defended her support to the poor girl, snapping at her former friends and those who are well more powerful than her, I hope there is no relapse in terms of character development (as in she won't revert back to bullying Ro Na) since Jenny seemed a bit sad at EB declaring to take Jenny out of their uni preparation lessons due to this behaviour.

     

    On a different topic, we have the twins, SK who still believes that dumbhead is the murderer, and SH who is wary of his father and the maid and suspects something. At the end of season 1, we have the twins moving abroad for half a year. I'm guessing they went on attending Cheong A High starting year 2, but their influence in school, in comparison to EB's, has waned drastically.

     

    SK is, despite her power, inferior to EB in terms of influence. And she very well gets bullied subtly for it by the people she looked down at. She has no choice but to accept it, since EB also 'bullies' her in her own way. Her brother is no longer completely on her side anymore. He knows when to stop her and make sure she doesn't end up in a situation she doesn't want to be, but that's about it - she has to stand on her own legs now. To add salt to the wound, we have her stepmother, diva, who also antagonizes her. 

     

    In short, SK is surrounded by enemies (her father, in a way, is an enemy since he killed her mother, and would abuse her all the time as well) both at home and in school. The one person she relied on has stopped giving her everything she wants, and her mother who she looked up to, is dead (there is a lot of loneliness and regret tied with it) and her mother is always insulted by her new stepmom.

     

    It might have hit her hard that all along, the housemaid has been the murderer and she has been comfortable with her mom's murderer (I know it's psycho but for her housemaid is the truth) all the time and knew too late. I wonder how it will change her attitude towards Ro Na, since RN's mother was never SR's killer and SK has been hating the wrong person all this time.

     

    EB, after her suicide attempt, has gotten far, far bolder. She knows the game between her mother and her stepdad, her mother's crimes (which she keeps hidden), and is completely disillusioned. I guess she is trying to get in a position where she doesn't have to interact much with her mother (who probably disgusts her), and basically uses her influence in school to be the center of attention and position of power, all the while plunging herself in academics, and putting up a show of a good daughter in front of others. Works wonders for her, she's dangerous.

     

    SH... I have no idea what is going on with him in the two years. I guess, on one side, he is deeply affected by RN and is in limerence with her, but on the other hand, he's been watching from the sidelines about what has happened to her all the time, so he has no real right to step up and 'be there' for her. The six months abroad probably didn't help. Even at the end of S1, SH was sus about his mom's death and kinda doesn't think dumbhead was the murderer.

     

    Him tearing up at RN happily walking home with her mother may be

    1. RN is perfectly happy even without him in her life, but he very well needs/wants her in his - he fell deeper for her than she for him.

    2. He has lost his right to be with her in this moment since he abandoned RN since two years (the keychain he has or hasn't returned - maybe it was his sis who returned the keychain) and wasn't there for her during the harshest part of her life

    3. Maybe he has been watching over her for the last 1.5 years since he has returned from abroad and is overwhelmed that she is finally free from her bad reputation from now on (happy/relieved)  and he no longer has a reason to watch her, be it from afar or upfront (sad/lonely).

    4. Overwhelmed that his materialistically fulfilled life is as empty and cold as can be but she still manages to smile like that in her life full of difficulties and poverty, and she has something he'll never have; the love of a parent.

     

    Sry for the rant.

     

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  19. 9 minutes ago, chococarmela said:

     

    When was this?

     

     

    Spoiler

    In S2Ep1. The maid, with her jealousy on patricidal diva, was the one sending the death threats all along. I guess the villain couple set her up in a trap and the secretary brought her back to her own house, badly beaten and bruised.

     

    Some moments later, RN storms into the maid's house thinking that was the place for a new job offer (since she got fired from her old job for being the daughter of a murderer) and the maid wants to kill her but backstabby dumbhead comes to the rescue. RN escapes, and maid and dumbhead wanna duke it out. Maid gets the upper hand but Holy Mr. Lee comes to the rescue. Maid decides to commit suicide by drinking some poisonous stuff from her room and Logan tells dumbhead to flee from the scene, saying he will take care of the rest. He forges a suicide note and leaves the maid in her apartment.

     

    That evening, psycho gets arrested but manages to shift the blame onto the now-dead maid with the help of a team of lawyers. He was proposing to patricidal diva when he got arrested.

     

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  20. 1 hour ago, sasha1818 said:

    Seok Hoon still likes Rona and clearly believes that his father is behind the death of SR.

    I am waiting for the moment where they actually communicate. He wants her in his life, (maybe go as far as needs? He never looks happy - not even with his parents, except with her) whereas she just strolls on with her mom giving zero damn about her surrounding. I love that strength of hers. I hope with this, the miscommunication problem of mother-daughter pair is solved. 

     

    I hope he has enough evidence to back up his (right) claim and put the criminal where he belongs - behind bars for his life, all his assets frozen. 

     

    On a different note, I wonder how she likes the idea of her mom marrying Dr. Ha, will she accept him since there was that episode with the affair going on? Or will the Yun2-Couple actually communicate with her so that she can accept their decision? How will she get back to school?

     

    26 minutes ago, Curlytop Asmr Lee said:

    How did Oh Yoon Hee get out of prison? All the evidence pointed to her. I still think she should pay for killing Seol Ah. But at the same time I feel bad for her. I am so conflicted when it comes to YH.

    The housekeeper's suicide letter -> psycho is the killer (which was the truth) -> psycho deflects blame to the dead housekeeper -> backstabby dumbhead automatically falls out of blame, gets free.

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  21. 11 minutes ago, chococarmela said:

     

    I think this season Yoon Hee has wisen up a lot, based on the trailer and teasers I've seen.

    I hope the year or two managed that for her, but her meeting with patricidal diva and declaring she's different from before is not something she should be doing right at the start of her revenge plan.

     

    But I'd like to know how you assessed that she's become wiser in this season.

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  22. 1 hour ago, lebritneeey said:

    This is what I'm hoping for. Hopefully in season 2 this misunderstanding could be resolved and seokhoon and rona can be together again!

     

    btw i saw this unreleased scene of seokhoon x rona in earlier eps! this took place after the whole locked up incident! 

     

    From this scene it does seemed like Rona genuinely has feelings for Seokhoon all along and I guess she kinda forgave him? Anyway, from here we can also tell that Seokhoon really likes Rona ALOT! So i believe that once he finds out who the real killer of Suryeon is, he'll probably find back Rona. 

    I saw it too. But since I hadn't seen how he has reacted to Ro Na's murder portrayed as the culprit, I'm not quite sure. His sister will be more than just angry at Ro Na, with that personality of hers, and probably was one of those people who wrote this.

     

    I'm also glad to see Ro Na care about Seok Hun. But I guess that's the kind of girl Ro Na is, I think - at least I get that vibe from her. She's mentally strong, but kind as well, and also someone who would always think of people that are on her side. Like you, we could see that Seok Hun cared about her as well, and I found it wonderful how he didn't blame her for whatever has happened in the locked room. (I mean, if it were his sister, she'd start blaming Ro Na on why she wouldn't get in touch with them or something along those lines. Ro Na could have somehow foiled Logan's plan with just a text about the location, like 'See you in crystal hall' or sth) 

     

    But I'm not sure how they would have interacted in school with everything. Sure, we saw the messages on her house door, and everything, but I guess the school closed down for a while? Or was there something else? Only when I see their interaction in school can I be sure about what Seok Hun thinks of Ro Na after EP 20's events.

     

    Him returning her the keychain (note: not the whole keychain, but just a part of it, the transparent part is prbly with him still, look at the deleted scene from EP12 that came out with the video you have posted earlier) could either be a further manifestation of 'Wait for me, we may need some time and space, but I need to investigate further' or it's him being disgusted at dating the daughter of his mom's murderer (at least until he finds that maid suspicious which is at least 6 months after he returned the keychain) and wanting nothing to do with her so him returning it. I mean, he didn't even leave a letter or a SMS message, or anything along that line.

     

    That is what leaves me confused.

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  23. 7 hours ago, boafriendagain said:

    One last thing I can't understand -- for MSA's death, why did no one check the main lobby's cameras? They would've captured all the parents cleaning up the scene. Would've saved a lot of crap from happening.

    I think the ladies took care of all the security cameras while they were cleaning up the aftermath of Anna leap of death. What I find more likely as a start is that one security guard that rode the elevator down with the three men and the golf bag (20ppl with golf bags that day is a bit weird, especially if it's a party.) He seemed like he be important later on.

     

    7 hours ago, lebritneeey said:

    I have a feeling that the one who died isn't Suryeon but her doppelganger aka twins' biological mom? Looking at the theories from peeps here and on twitter, there have been subtle differences shown in several scenes where Suryeon was in (like diff earrings or no rings at all etc). So maybe Suryeon might have found her doppelganger way earlier and probably hatch a plan with her or something. Sounds unrealistic but hey it's a makjang! 

    I'd like to add that I have re-watched EP20 and found out that when SR was getting in the fancy elevator she had the earrings (and possibly the ring but I didn't see that part) but when she came out of it, both the ring and the earrings were gone. If there had been a trick, it would have been then. 

     

    7 hours ago, lebritneeey said:

    LOGAN. I really really hope we'll see him for the entire season 2 and not just a couple of eps (cause i read somewhere that he's cameo-ing only but i hope this isn't true)!! There's so many unfinished business so Logan can't leave Korea just like this! 

    I hope Logan can read a bit of Su Ryeon's intentions and raise Ro Na. I mean, how did she get by in the last six months? How did she pay the bills (I think the house was bought by her mother, so she didn't have to pay rent) and go to school? Wouldn't she usually get kicked out? Who helped her all the while?

     

    Besides, I am expecting a fight between Logan and his parents. Remember, Logan's parents personally drove Anna out, and they had an argument when Logan found out the truth. Now I'm guessing Logan came to Korea and did the revenge scheme all on his own, and his daddy has to rescue him now that he got in a pinch. That's reason enough for there to be a fight between them.

     

    7 hours ago, boafriendagain said:

     

    I also don't like how Seok Kyung is still so cold towards SSR, despite her not being her real mom. Way to blame your mom for dying and "leaving you alone." I'm glad Seok Hoon has his head on straighter.

    I was so glad to see Seok Hun's character development - I'm glad he understands his mother and hope the matureness will carry over to Ro Na's case, as in, he won't headfast blame Ro Na (despite him returning the keychain to her again) and investigate (especially after 6 months where he saw that scene with the maid and PTSD-psycho) further until he finds the truth.

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