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  1. 2 hours ago, syntyche said:

     

    Thanks, @Serene Tales. The deleted adult scene I mentioned was I believe, more than that shirtless scene. As it was not released, we may never know the extent of that scene.  

     

    Like @Nikaa94 said, let's support LMH regardless of whatever they show or not show in the drama. :)  

    Can some one please translate the last part of this interview? I guess it’s something about the deleted scene. 
    I heard from someone that the bed scene the director mentioned was just that shirtless scene and that was all. They said that kind of implying scenes were also considered as a bed scene in Korea bcs it gives a hint on what was going on. I am not sure about this. And I like to believe he did nothing more than that shirtless scene in the movie.


    This interview is really funny. It is sad that there are no subtitles for this full interview on youtube. MinHo is sooo cute in this.:love:

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  2. 1 hour ago, syntyche said:

    This adult scene is an interesting, and quite polarizing topic indeed. 

     

    To put things into perspective, I'd like to think about Gangnam Blues. The theme of this movie is quite different from most dramas that LMH has done. Some of his fans, who are used to seeing his wholesome image in previous dramas, may not choose this as their cup of tea. While others regard this as a breath of fresh air, a challenge for LMH to showcase his potential as a versatile actor.

     

    As we know, LMH had an adult scene here that was decided on to be deleted. I remember seeing a GB press conference where LMH was teased by the PD that he should have made a love scene for him, "Frozen Flower" style. "Frozen Flower" has love scenes that are even more intense than Western films. While LMH just laughed it off, the audience in attendance strongly disagreed.

     

    I myself watch a wide range of genre of shows, from Korean, to Asian to Western films. GB for me is a film that exhibits what LMH can do when challenged to portray a role that is out of his comfort zone. Without the adult scene, the storytelling of the film still worked for me. Had that scene been included, I'd still watch it, and as I've seen various takes on adult scenes, from suggestive to explicit, I'd probably regard it as an art of expression of the director/production, and would still see GB as one of LMH's exceptional works.

     

    On the other hand, public reception is another thing. I remember a recent kdrama shown in a local station, where some went as far as asking for its cancelation due to its sexual overtones involving a minor. As Pachinko, that drama was also based on a previous work which called for such overtones (and wasn't Sunja also a minor when she met Hansu?)

     

    Well, Pachinko would be shown on Apple TV+, a US-based platform that has a more liberal take on adult themes. But Apple TV+ is aiming to enter the Korean market and release Pachinko. And that is where the possible conflict lies - will they take on the conservative route in consideration of the nationality of their lead star and traditional Korean values, or will they go by their usual liberal stance on adult themes? 

     

    Yet another conflict is the one that we're having now - public reception. I understand that LMH has a wholesome image, and some would very much want him to maintain that image. While others would want him to take on mature roles and hence are open to the possibility of seeing him in adult scenes. We all have our opinions, and I hope that these are taken into consideration by LMH's team (Any MYM lurkers here? :lol:) I guess it boils down to what image and career path LMH wants to take in the future. And of course the Pachinko production which ultimately decides on what and what not to show. Until then, it's still a long waiting process for us. And there would definitely be another round of discussion when the scene is finally shown (or not).

     

    @syntyche I respect you dear. You have a very good take on everything. :heart: 
    I still hope he doesn’t choose to do that. 

    The bed scene that he mentioned he had done in GB was that shirtless scene, right? I have absolutely no problem with such scenes. And I loved him in GB a lot. Of course that is one of his greatest works. I don’t want him to do scenes like Kim Rae Won has done in that movie. :dizzy:


     

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  3. 3 hours ago, lupeace said:

    hi there welcome to the thread. i just want to clarify that me saying i dont want to see him do 18+ scenes doesnt mean i want him to play cute characters

     

    my point is that mature acting is not all about 18+ scenes. there are plenty of characters that require that kind of acting without it. and great actors such as leo dicaprio/ lee byung hun etc... prove that cause they are known to the audience by their great portrayl of the characters not by 18+ scenes. so were their characters cute because they didnt do 18+ scenes in all of them? ofcourse no they are the most known to have played mature characters. 

     

    however as i said i dont really have a problem with him doing them or not cause eventuallly i will skip them. i just prefer if he doesnt

    You’ve got every point that I had in my mind. It’s not like I want him to play only cute characters. @Lucy2020  I think I have already clarified that in my previous comments. And I don’t understand why maturity in acting is always being linked with 18+ scenes. It doesn’t always have to be like that. There are a lot more ways to be do that. I liked Lee Min Ho in Gangnam Blues. But I really didn’t like the 18+ scene Kim Rae Won has done in the movie. I can’t even imagine Lee Min Ho in such scenes. Omg! I still hope he doesn’t do such scenes. And Just like she said I will simply skip that part if he really does that in the series. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, JoannaID said:

     

    As much as I understand where you're coming from, I myself wouldn't mind to see LMH in 18+ scenes, as long as it's done in artistic and beautiful way like many top Hollywood actors did on their works. Even many A-lister Korean actors also had done 18+ scenes in their movie projects. I think adult scene if done correctly, it can add to the range of an actor and shows an actor versatility as well. 

     

    Yes many of us discovered LMH from his PG-13 dramas like BOF or The Heirs, but he has grown pass that type of roles, he's now 33 years old actor.  With LMH choosing Pachinko as his next project and will be playing 'unconventional' role as Hansu, I believe he has taken a next step in his career as an actor, this is like the phase 2 of his career. As fans, we need to understand that LMH as a real person is different with the characters that LMH plays as an actor. He will be playing Hansu, a bad guy / a ruthless Yakuza, but he's still the same LMH that we all admire, who is kind to his fans, a sweet and dorky actor. :) 

     

    I am more excited to see LMH portraying Hansu now as he's entering phase 2 of his career and proving his haters wrong by displaying his versatility as an actor.

    I agree with you. But I really don’t think an 18+ scene is must for an actor to show his versatility. There are a lot more genres to discover. And not all audience will love watching such roles. As much as I love Lee Min Ho, I worry about this a lot. I don’t understand that concept at all because what is so special about acting an 18+ scene? 
    As I said, I love him a lot and I will be loving him no matter what. But I really don’t want him to act in such scenes. He has great potential in him and he can showcase them even without such scenes.

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  5. Thank you @syntyche 

    I feel really sad right now. It’s not like I will hate him if he do such scenes but for me, nothing about him will be the same anymore. What  I adore the most in him is his cuteness and his innocent smile. Why the hell would he compromise on that? He is already a great actor with a lot of fans. This is so heartbreaking to hear. I was happy that he is going to have a new drama till now. Whatever he does, I will always cheer for him. But this is making me soooooo sad. It’s because he is like family to me. He is a major part in the everyday life of mine. 

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  6. I have some doubts regarding the multiple timeline theory.

     

    1. What happens to the time traveller after resetting the time? Will he go back to the original timeline he belongs to or will he disappear? Will all the people belonging to the original timeline disappear too?
      Explanation in one timeline theory: Nobody can reset time. There is only one timeline. Nobody can change the past. Anything the time traveller does hoping to make a change will only eventually lead to the original destiny that has already happened.                                                   The current LG goes back to the past to stop LR from taking one half of the flute. He fails but he succeeds in saving the young LG and drops the ID card. Then he comes back to the current timeline. Nothing in the past changes, but he did what he is destined to do. 
    2. Every time a person travels to the past and changes something, the time resets. Right? Then what about the time travel done by LG to give those flowers to JTE?  Was time reset here?                                                               Explanation in one timeline theory: It is a chapter that is yet to happen to LG, but has already happened to JTE in the current timeline itself. Similarly, the 1994 saving chapter is yet to happen for LG, but has already happened to young LG in the current timeline itself. And these are all destined to happen. 
    3. If the future LG that saved his younger self came from another timeline, why would he get that black costume in the current timeline?
    4. If the future LG who came to JTE with flowers is from another timeline, why is that costume getting designed here in the current timeline?
    5. Just like LG who can go back to the past and reset the time, LR can also do it. Then it will be a total mess if LG and LR both make changes in the past and reset the time. More and more timelines will be created each time they both travel to the past and make changes.                         Explanation in one timeline theory: Whatever LR and LG do hoping to change the past, that were all already written in the destiny. And the past won’t change but everything they do will eventually lead to that which already happened.
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  7. 42 minutes ago, Anagha said:

    Hi, I don’t know what’s gonna happen to the story in the next episodes. But I had a theory that I posted on youtube a week before. I just wanted to share it with you guys. The preview of ep 13 is sooo confusing. And I don’t think my theory is right. But still wanted to share because even if a single element from that make sense, it’ll be nice. 
     

    I’m stuck with this Lee Ji Hu idea. What if he some how escaped from Lee Rim and grew up somewhere secretly. He might appear in the next episodes. I guess he may kill Lee Rim and take hold of his flute, travel back to the past, and save young Lee Gon. This might sound naive but I really do think that’s how it is gonna be. Because it’s definitely LMH who saved Lee Gon.

     

    Another possibility. Lee Lim might have raised Lee Ji Hu secretly. There is no reason for him to kill Lee Jin Hu anyway. But he can use him as his final weapon against The King since both of them have the same face. Why do u think Lee Lim is protecting LeeJi Hu’s mom? He doesn’t even allow her to die despite her attempting to suicide several times. I think this is to threaten Lee Ji Hu with his mom. Lee Lim might want Lee Ji Hu to do things in his favour. But as I said Lee Ji Hu will somehow kill Lee Rim, and save his mom. Then he will take the flute and join hands with LeeGon.


    I am so much confused with theory of Lee Gon travelling to his past to save his younger self. It is because he was saved that day that he is alive today. If he was killed that day, there wouldn’t be a present lee gon to go back to the past. So in brief, if he is alive today, there is no reason for him to go back to save himself. My guess is Lee ji hu is the one who saved young Lee Gon. We did not see lee ji hu getting killed in the drama. We just saw lee lim approaching lee ji hu to kill him.

     

    This was what I thought before ep 13 preview. But now when I think about it, maybe LG can save his younger self. But he might have gone to the past for some other reason like killing LR but ended up saving himself. 


    Please share your thoughts. 

     

    Wow!  This theory is too convincing. But we don't know if LJH is alive yet.  And the preview and spoilers hint us about some major memory losses going to happen.  Lets all wait for a happy episode.  Fingers crossed. 

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