NaughtyDog
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gelling hair is not the same as wearing makeup.
makeup hides features perceived as not very good such as acne and freckles.
gelling hair is a style akin to curling hair, cutting it, straightening, etc.
facial features make up a HUGE component of how we judge a person.
That's true, but I think the context here is that most guys have the mindset of "Why do you have to wear makeup? You've already got me, so who are you trying to impress?" I've seen it countless times and numerous soompi threads on it.
Should girls stop wearing makeup just because they have a boyfriend? Should girls stop dressing up just because they have a boyfriend? Should girls stop caring about their weight and completely let themselves go just because they have a boyfriend? Next thing they'll be complaining to their boys, "Yo man, my girl is dressing like a slob and is gaining weight...I'm not attracted to her anymore, how do I get her to fix herself up?" and if she doesn't, he'll go find an attractive girl who looks good.
Guys, get over yourselves. We don't wear makeup just for you.
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so my boyfriend doesn't like me wearing make-up.
he always asks me why i wear make up.
he thinks it boosts my confidence, as if it's equivalent to wearing a super short skirt and a low cut tank
i told him it's the equivalent of why he gels and styles his hair every morning
but that's not enough for him.
so girls.. why DO we wear make up?
what do i say to him so he understands
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Don't have much to say other than guys who worry about their girlfriends dressing up or wearing makeup have serious self-esteem/trust issues.
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Good for you?
I never wrote that ALL Koreans are brainwashed. I brought up those points (the anti-Japanese drawings, recent poll) because he asserted that Taiwanese, Chinese and Japanese gov'ts banded together to brainwash their citizens and further this make believe "anti-Korean" (est. 1992) agenda. What those kids experienced can be considered a form of brainwashing and I was very specific about it.
Exactly my point. Why are you bringing up such a specific situation when you know it doesn't involve the whole population of Korea? This chucky12390234234318 fella is obviously a Korean nationalist troll who is bringing up stupid little Japanese events like the eye slanting incident (which he thinks involve the whole country) and you're doing the exact same with this brain-washing story.
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Wow @ your quoted posts from Koreansentry. The word "jjangkae" is an extremely derogatory term used for Chinese and they fling it around as if it were nothing...Never realized how many ignorant racists there still are out there. Sigh...
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You want to talk about 'brain washing'? How about I pull up a cute article of Korean school children drawing pictures of how they want Japanese people dead (yes SCHOOL CHILDREN). Or even in a recent survey, Korean students claimed that Japan, N. Korea and the U.S. were enemies of S. Korea?
And since you're familiar with the Morning Musume incident - I think it's pretty convenient that you left out the part where thousands of Japanese netizens voiced their dissent and demanded MM apologize?
I'm Korean and I've lived in Korea for a year last year and never have I seen any type on anti-Japan brainwashing from S. Koreans. Just like you said there were thousands of Japanese netizens who demanded an apology, there are many many Koreans who love Japan. I talked to many university students and asked whether they have any ill-feelings about Japan, but all of their answers were no and that it's more of the older generations that lived through Japan's occupancy in Korea.
Anyway, this topic was stupid to begin with and has just gotten 10x worse. Should be closed soon.
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^ Miss China's face looks swollen as if she had botox injections on the bottom half of her face compared to her previous photos. Gorgeous nonetheless!
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Wow I've got to say Europe is the strongest out of the bunch. Finland, Kosovo and Czech Republic have my votes!
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That's a great idea, but make sure it looks better than this
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I am not. I was just saying girls prefer tall guy.
180 CM is 5'11.
Anyways are the guys there really tall? I heard Koreans are the tallest east Asians on average.
Ah I see. Yeah well don't sweat it, 5'8 isn't that short and if you have other good qualities, height won't matter too much. I mean females more than males 'compromise' looks for personality. I know plenty of women who initially meet a guy and say that they don't find them attractive physically, but once they got to know them, their personality actually made them more physically attractive in their eyes.
Uhm, a lot of Korean guys are tall, but of course there are short ones too. I went to Japan and the Philippines, and the men were significantly shorter than Korean males, but I can't speak for China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc.
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Do you think 5'8 is short?
I don't think guys care about a girl's height as long as she isn't a midget.
I would date that gorgeous girl because well girls don't carry the genetic burden. (talking about features/physicality) Girls are known to be on the short side so I wouldn't naturally search out a tall girl because face it.. majority of girls are 4'11-5'4 from what I have seen. Tall girls are quite rare (5'7+) but for for guys it isn't because that is their average.
So depends on how you see it.
I actually am not "scorning" women for preferring height. It is quite obvious girls rank high next to facial features.
Lol 5'8 isn't short to me at all, so I don't know why you're so concerned about height haha I do recall when I was in Korea, a standard for girls was that the guy has to be at least 180cm, which I think is 6'0? Pretty ridiculous...
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What are you trying to say?
And next time please use quotes when addressing someone. Pretty please? I will even bow down and kiss your feet because I feel that strongly. *quoted image*
Women likes taller men and are more likely to choose them as potential mate. Her derp derp. You kept ranting about ooo personality yeah personality does play a role however this topic is about... you know what.. read the OP again.
Personality can be changed.. Height, intelligence..etc, can't.
What other points do you want address?
I have a question for you then. I'm assuming [of course correct me if I'm wrong] that you're not on the tall side - let's say 5'5 just for the heck of it. Would you date a girl that is absolutely gorgeous, great personality, but is 4'11 or 5'0? Does it ever cross your mind, "Hmm, if she and I do date and actually get married, our kids are definitely going to be short. If I have a son, he will either be as tall as I am or shorter and may have a hard time finding a girlfriend as well, etc. etc..."
If you don't think that, okay that's great, but if so, isn't that the same kind of logic you're scorning women for preferring?
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^ Why does it always have to boil down to genetics/science? Why can't it just be, wow that girl is hot, I'd like to get in bed with her tonight! Wow that guy is gorgeous, I wonder if he's dating anyone? Or hm, this guy didn't strike me as handsome in the first place, but his personality is great and keeps me laughing all the time.
I mean most people don't think "Wow that woman is skinny, but has wide hips, which is great for child-rearing. She also has blue eyes and blonde hair that would look great mixed with my genes. I wonder if her mom carries the balding gene?" in choosing who to date.
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Height does matter and a lot of girls are superficial about it. However you are right. Personality can be the deciding factor.
But if given a choice between two guys with the same everything except height then of of course the dude with the taller height is going to get chosen. Height is one of the most obvious genetic trait so I will emphasize on that more.
So when I try to consolidate genetics, dating, marriage, height; it isn't as all that sickening as it seems based on that above threads I linked.
That's like saying: There are two delicious cupcakes on the table. Both taste exactly the same, look exactly the same, are the same size, but this one has icing on it. Which one will you choose? Of course they're going to pick the taller guy because exactly like my example; it's the icing on the cupcake.
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Wait so poor education makes someone obese? *quoted image* I can't see the connection here....
*Sorry I meant health education, my mistake.
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meh, obvious apprehension to my thoughts as usual.
weak genetics being autosomal dominant and recessive diseases that create grief onto the children, society, and generations for years to come. It would be better just to adopt; more happiness is created that way (this is my main argument). Some genetic diseases are terrifying and torturous.
some examples of people with weak genetics i think that should adopt are those with genes that may cause:
Huntington's disease
Cystic fibrosis
Sickle Cell Anemia
Tay-Sachs disease
Really? So you're saying that people with these diseases or prone to these diseases should be told "You can't have a child because they may be a burden on society!" Well what if they aren't? What if their parents are super rich and will be able to support them through their whole lives? What about those people with great genetics, but have no money to raise their children so they're on welfare? You said it's natural/human nature for men to seek women who are physically attractive, that have a body made for child-rearing, etc. Well it's natural/human nature for women to have babies so you can't expect to tell a woman that she can't have a baby with her husband because he has one of those diseases and that she has to go to a sperm bank or adopt instead.
I do understand that these people may be a burden on society, but let's look at the United States. Considering the economic crisis that the U.S. may be facing in the near future, did you know that obesity-related health issues alone in America costs $147 billion dollars per year? Okay obesity can be genetic, but we all know that the majority of obese people are that way because of poor diet, low incomes, lack of education, etc. etc. This is something that can change, yet billions of dollars are being spent because these people have so many health issues because of their weight. Also, how much tax money does the government spend on a governor's fancy dinners, trips around the world, and huge salaries? It's ridiculous how much they spend on that stuff, and I'd much rather tackle things like obesity and cut down government spending than tackle something that can't be helped.
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Height doesn't matter to everyone. I date who I like and am attracted to, simple as that. My last boyfriend was 5'6 and I'm 5'5 and I was actually taller than him in heels.
I don't even really think about the height of my kids, but if it came down to height vs. face, I'd definitely go for face.
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I share a view in that I believe genetic variation is necessary to promote growth and benefit society.
That being said, i strongly believe those with weak genetics should not reproduce and cast a burden on society for generations to come. However, enforcing that is "immoral" (I strongly believe weak genetic couples should adopt.)
although it isn't guaranteed in the short run because genetics is somewhat of a probability function, i think genetic selection is useful in the long term.
i'm certain men and women do it already to a certain degree. (men emphasizing looks and health, while females emphasizing that and other stuff.If you were offended by the previous sentence, pretend i was talking about monkeys)
there are already sperm banks where you can filter for genetics. ( 6 feet+ men with blue eyes blond hair and other genetic features are popular)
...The hell?
I won't even dignify that with an actual response.
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In my opinion you described yourself as the type of girl who's very paranoid and cold hearted on msn. I didn't make it seem like anything. At the time I was only going off your words that you said yourself.
I'm not paranoid or cold-hearted, I'm just very reserved on who I add onto my FB or MSN that I only know from online, that's all.
I didn't dodge anything!!!!!! Wtf..
I don't have to answer every single question if I choose not to. Plenty of people do it on Soompi and it's no law against it. You didn't address anything VitaSoyBoy said except accusing him of attacking you.
But I feel that I'm just seeing what happens out of the situation. If I'm single and the girl is out on a date while in a relationship I don't see how that makes me a bad person/in the wrong? Sometimes I think why not go out just for the sake of not wondering what would've happened if I went out. I've read plenty of non fictional stories of how people have met in that situation and things worked out.
Why is it okay for you to go out on a date with someone who has a boyfriend? Yeah they're pretty shady for going out on a date while already in a relationship, but you're just as wrong for initiating it or accepting her advances. You call it an opportunity to maybe see what may happen between you two, but I call that being a homewrecker...
I'm pretty open minded. He even says he's the over protective type and once again it's a wonderful post that puts me down, makes him seem territorial, overly protective, and makes me look pretty crooked. Smh. It's almost like you want me to say I'm some terrible person and I'm in the wrong most of the time? Honestly, what do you really want me to say??
That's not me being defensive. That's an honest question. Never have I said I wanted you to admit to being wrong or horrible. Most people just state their opinion and you say that they're attacking you, that was my point.
Also, I haven't been happy in a while. I've been content. Moving past content in the dating world for me would mean I'm actually progressing towards being with someone's who's what she says she is. Someone who's real and not bs-ing me. I get tired of dealing with meeting women who have bf's. It gets old quick because the same old stuff happens like a re-run. But wait here's the part where you tell me how I'm wrong for feeling like that. I'm typically happy for people in good situations. I'm the type of guy that does for others just because. I'm the guy people go to when s*** hits the fan. But good lord at this point I say for once.. what about Donporkuloin.
Look, I'm the same way. I've been richard simmons on by friends who I've bent backwards for, I've been cheated on by all 4 boyfriends that I've ever had, one guy even dumped me because I told him I didn't want to lose my virginity until marriage, but I don't dwell on it all the time and complain about being sick of all men. I am sick of relationships right now and I honestly believe I won't ever get into another serious relationship, which is why I'm happy being alone. I understand it's frustrating not having a significant other, but you've got to embrace what you've got. I embrace that I can stay home, watch movies, read books, and play on my PS3 all day without worrying about getting ready to go out, what I'm going to wear, or what gift to buy him for his birthday. I love love love it.
My point is that while you are searching and searching for someone who appears to be real and who she says she is, you're looking so hard for something that you may start to see things that aren't really there. I mean, how can you know that she's real without knowing her for a few months or so? I think the best way to approach a girl for you would be to have no expectations, no reservations about just being friends, and no qualms if she has a boyfriend. If she has a boyfriend but you realize that she is extremely down to earth and someone you want to get to know, keep the friendship going. Who knows if she'll break up with her boyfriend down the road and eventually fall for you? Maybe she will, maybe she won't, but at least you've found a great friend. Now I'm not saying to befriend someone in hopes to end up with them in the future, just be content with knowing someone really nice and caring, regardless if they have a boyfriend or not.
There's this great quote from the show Felicity that I completely agree with. "The moment you feel that you don't need a boyfriend, that's exactly when you should get one." Just replace 'boyfriend' with 'girlfriend'.
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^ Why is it a waste of time? Just because she ended up having a boyfriend? Couldn't you just be happy that you got to spend time with someone that you wanted to get to know without dwelling on the fact that it didn't lead to a second, third, or fourth date?
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This. Pretty much what I said earlier, but you didn't really address that.
Also, VitaSoyBoy wasn't attacking you in any way or trying to make you look like a bad guy. That's something you need to be more open-minded about. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're attacking you. He clearly said "Forgive me if I assumed wrongly that you're okay with going on romantic dates with girls who are taken, but that's just how your posts seemed to come off to me." He made a great point that you still decided to go on a date with a girl that you knew had a boyfriend, but you just dodged it and got in defensive mode...
As for girl #1, what's wrong with not adding someone on facebook or MSN? I mean, I don't add everyone (especially people I don't know in person) on FB or MSN and you made it seem like I was a close-minded freak who was afraid of everyone when I didn't want to give you my email address...
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I think you're assuming a lot donpork. What you may think constitutes as romantic interest from a female can simply be her acting polite. Now if she said, "donpork, you make me randy so let's have dinner and see what goes from there
" and then proceeds to tell you during dinner that she has a boyfriend...The first thing that comes to mind is maybe she realized that she shouldn't be sneaking around on her boyfriend like this? Maybe she lost interest quickly and wanted to flat out let you know that this isn't a date and won't turn into anything more? Maybe she really was considering leaving you for her boyfriend, but things changed during the date? Maybe she doesn't even have a boyfriend, I don't know, because what I'm doing right here is I'm assuming. You need to stop assuming and asking people on the internet that haven't done this and ask these women why they're doing this to you because I don't know and am curious why or how a woman can do something like that. You also need to ask yourself why this is always happening to you because I don't know any girl that has gone on a date with a guy and then told him that she actually has a boyfriend, yet you've encountered many women who have done this to you. I'm truly baffled why this is happening to you as well...This is not something that seems common in women and maybe it's you or maybe you're just encountering all the wrong women I don't know.
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Lol @ you having DTF in caps. That gave me a healthy hearty laugh. I was reading this and I thought it's no sense in saying you sound cold hearted, because I'm sure you realize that. I couldn't help but think d*** your last few relationships must have been horrible/very unfulfilling?
I don't think she sounded cold-hearted at all. She just sounds like she's open to new things and it seems as though she doesn't want to restrict herself from dating a certain person because there's no initial attraction nor does she feel obligated to continue to date someone after 3-4 dates if she lost interest.
As for your initial post, I think we need more details about all these dates. I mean, like most people have said, the word date can mean something to one person and another to someone else. The word date is subjective just like the phrase "hooking up". Some people define hooking up as making out, whereas I define it as sleeping with someone. So, what exactly makes a date for you? Is it two people agreeing to hang out? Is it two people agreeing to hang out in a specific setting (ie. dinner and a movie, going to the beach, etc)? Is it paying for her meal or movie ticket? Does the word "date" have to be mentioned when the initial meeting was set?
I don't know, maybe these girls just wanted to hang out with you no-strings attached and are just ruthless enough to get a free meal out of it too.
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I'm seriously sick of hearing this phrase. Whenever I hear it I can't help but imagine a pity party and think that these guys are butthurt that one, two, or three girls have rejected them. How can you say that nice guys finish last when you haven't even reached the finish line yet?
So what if a girl rejected you? I understand that it hurts, but it doesn't mean you've finished last. Did the guy who ended up with her and broke up with her after 3 months finish first? Do you give up every time in a race when someone passes you? No, you keep trying until you reach that finish line.
What you have to realize that you're the only one in this race and you're not competing with anyone but yourself. So what if most of your friends have had girlfriends and you still haven't had a girlfriend when you're in high school, in university, already working in the job field or you're past your 30's? Unless you're alone the day you pass away, then you haven't finished last.
Come back in 30 years and let me know if you've still "finished last".
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I don't think your friend's behaviour is the issue at hand; I think it's yours.
You're hanging out with a guy 1-on-1 and lying to your boyfriend when you know that he isn't comfortable with it. I think it's bull when people say "Oh I know he/she will be hurt if I told them I was hanging out with someone alone, so I'll just keep it from them.". Why? Because you're not really trying to spare their feelings, you're doing it so you can spare yours since you know you'd get into a fight if you told the truth.
If it were the other way around, you'd probably post a topic saying "My boyfriend is being a tour guide to his girl friend 1-on-1. She calls him pet names and he lied about going drinking with her alone. Is this acceptable behaviour??"
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Just because she cheated on you as well doesn't change my mind, but the sad thing is that you both probably feel a bit relieved finding out that you both cheated. What a world we live in, huh?
Neither of you gave this marriage a chance and I have no pity for either of you. I only pity your children and the lives they will have to live now that their parents have ended their family for such selfish reasons.
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I find it ironic that you no longer want people under 20 to post and give their input when Ellie herself wasn't even 20 when you first started cheating on your wife.
That being said, I just need to comment on your update:
Did you actually try to work things out?
Did you even tell her how you feel?
Did you do something to try to make things interesting? (It's not only up to her - you could have texted her, told her you loved her, left her little notes to remind her of how special she is to you, etc.)
Did you confide in your loved ones/professionals about the marital problems?
Even if you did all this and she still didn't reciprocate, that is still no reason to cheat on her for over 2 years.
I don't have to answer every single question if I choose not to. Plenty of people do it on Soompi and it's no law against it.
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When I hear people talk about their ideal boyfriend/girlfriend or minimum requirements, I can't help but think of all the great people they've overlooked because of their (usually) crazy standards.