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First iverson, then gasol, now PJ. I think KG is next.

lol i don't think pj wanting to leave is on the same level as iverson and gasol wanting to leave

did u see that one dunk wallace did? he totally flew

yeah, that was beastlike

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well khryapa gets like no playing time so i understand if he'd want to leave. i don't think i've ever seen him in a game this season besides the preseason. pj has been getting decent playing time though. he's also underachieving, probably due to his age. i wonder why denver would be willing to trade marcus camby for him anyway. camby is a beast.

anybody see the fight between the knicks and nuggets? i missed it because i was at a friend's house but they're saying it was the worst fight since the one between the pacers and pistons.

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did u see that one dunk wallace did? he totally flew

No I didn't.

2 steals a game is pretty decent for defense if you ask me.

Yes, but for a good or great one there is more to defense than getting steals. Also, Iverson is getting old and he's short.

anybody see the fight between the knicks and nuggets? i missed it because i was at a friend's house but they're saying it was the worst fight since the one between the pacers and pistons.

I only saw what happened in the fight afterwards when 10 players were ejected and the coaches and other players were on the court. The Nuggets and Knicks game was a blowout so I watched other games. I was told by my friend and he asked me if I saw it (him and I were watching from two different tv's).

JR Smith got pissed at Mardy Collins for the flagerant foul he gave him and got in his face for it. Then Nate Robinson decided to act all tough and ignited the brawl. Robinson and Smith went at it.

Carmelo punched Jared Jeffries and after that he ran across the court which was funny.

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Carmelo punched Jared Jeffries and after that he ran across the court which was funny.

actually, carmelo punched collins but then jeffries chased after him for it. it was pretty sad to see carmelo try to take a cheap shot on him and then just run away.

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Oh whoops. I messed up. Yeah it was Collins. He said something to Anthony and got punched for it. Carmelo will probably have the longest suspension for that. Then Nate because he made things worse and JR for taking the bait.

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I sure miss the old Knicks that had Ewing, Starks, A. Mason and also the Knicks team that had Houston, Sprewell, Camby. They did get into some silly brawls but at least they were contenders. The current Knicks have been very embarassing.

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^ Don't be so critical of Robinson. Mardy Collins flagrantly fouled JR Smith, Smith then confronted Collins, so Robinson stepped in, pushing Smith away and telling him off, Carmelo comes in and punches him, then Smith comes in tackling Robinson into the stands. Then it gets uglier, Carmelo throwing some more punches. Every NBA player should be acting tough, although this was a rather disgraceful way of showing toughness. Doesn't matter how small, annoying or skilled Nate Robinson is. Tempers heat up, and you'll start throwing hits and talking smack to other players.

I say it was the Nuggets' fault. Knicks are already embarassed in their home crowd from losing so badly, and here you have the starters that have been embarassing you all night still on the floor. Then when one of them comes up to make a dunk, you can't handle letting your fans see that so you take him out.

Here's the brawl for anyone who wants to rewatch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbiPP4T6Jp8

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http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A...p&type=lgns

Nuggets, Knicks in wild brawl near end of game

By BRIAN MAHONEY, AP Basketball Writer

December 17, 2006

New York Knicks' Nate Robinson, second from left, and Denver Nuggets' J.R. Smith, right exchange words while teammate Carmelo Anthony looks on during a fight that broke out during the second half of basketball action at Madison Square Garden in New York Saturday, Dec. 16, 2006. New York Knicks' Jared Jeffries, left, is restrained. Ten players, including NBA scoring leader Carmelo Anthony, were ejected for fighting during a brawl near the end of Saturday night's game between the Denver Nuggets and New York Knicks. All 10 players on the court at the time were tossed for their involvement in the ugly incident that spread across the court and spilled into the crowd at Madison Square Garden.

AP - Dec 16, 11:50 pm EST

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NEW YORK (AP) -- The NBA has another ugly scene to recover from. This one involved its leading scorer and happened in its most famous arena.

Denver's Carmelo Anthony and the other nine players on the court at the time were ejected for fighting during a wild brawl between the Nuggets and Knicks, triggered in part by a New York team that felt it was being shown up on its home floor.

Multiple players, including Anthony, threw punches, and New York's Nate Robinson and Denver's J.R. Smith -- fouled hard by Mardy Collins on the play that started the brawl -- flew into the first row of the crowd while fighting during the NBA's scariest scene since Indiana players fought with Detroit fans in 2004.

Smith had a red mark along the left side of his face, but there were no other injuries among the players. No fans were directly involved, even after the fighting spilled into the seats.

According to the Knicks, the whole thing happened because the Nuggets still had their starters on the floor with 1:15 left and a 19-point lead. Denver won 123-100.

"They just wanted to embarrass us," Robinson said. "It was a slap in the face to us. As a team, as a franchise, we weren't going to let that happen. A clean, hard foul happened and after that it went down from there."

The foul wasn't clean at all. Collins grabbed Smith around the neck as he was going in for a breakaway layup. Anthony and Robinson quickly jumped in, and the melee went from one end of the court all the way to the other.

Anthony threw a punch at Collins, and now awaits what will surely be strong punishment from a league still trying to repair its image after the melee in Auburn Hills, Mich.

"Something's going to happen, but we shall see and wait," Anthony said. "I don't really want to comment on that right now."

The NBA didn't, either. Spokesman Tim Frank said the league would "review the incident in its entirety. Until then, it would not be appropriate to comment."

But the players can expect a harsh penalty with the brawl happening at Madison Square Garden, right in the hometown of NBA headquarters.

"I feel bad for the league, I feel bad for the Denver Nuggets and the New York Knicks," Nuggets coach George Karl said. "Very poor display of respecting basketball and respecting the game in the best place in the world to play basketball."

There had previously been some bad blood between Karl and Knicks coach Isiah Thomas over the handling of the Larry Brown firing. Karl and Brown are close friends.

But Karl wouldn't talk about why he had his starters on the floor late in a blowout, in the closing minutes of a back-to-back that closed a five-game road trip.

Thomas said he even told Anthony that he never should have been in the game at the time.

"I just said to him, 'You know, you're up 20, you're up 19 with a minute and half to go, you and (Marcus) Camby really shouldn't be in the game right now,"' Thomas said. "We had surrendered, those guys shouldn't even be in the game at that point in time."

After the hard foul by Collins, Smith got up and jawed with Collins and Robinson jumped in to yell at Smith -- who had thrown down a reverse dunk on a fast break minutes earlier.

"They were having their way with us," Thomas said. "I think J.R. Smith had just made one dunk when he reversed and spun in the air. And I think Mardy didn't want our home crowd to see that again. So he fouled him."

Anthony rushed in and pushed Robinson in the neck, triggering the roughest moment, when Robinson and Smith went flying into the stands while fighting with each other. Anthony then threw his punch at Collins, then backed away toward the center of the court.

New York's Jared Jeffries ran from the baseline toward Anthony, but was tackled by a Denver player. The brawl stretched to the other end of the court toward the Nuggets' bench before coaches and security finally pulled Smith away and restored order.

Smith was yelling as he was escorted back to the locker room, unsure why Collins fouled him as hard as he did.

"I don't even know," Smith said. "That's the first time I ever seen the dude."

Camby, Andre Miller, Eduardo Najera, Smith and Anthony were the Nuggets who were ejected; Channing Frye, David Lee, Collins, Robinson and Jeffries were the Knicks who were kicked out.

"Clearly this isn't how we or the NBA wants to be perceived," Thomas said. "It should have been a foul and the guy takes two free throws and maybe some words, but it shouldn't have escalated. This isn't even a rivalry."

Highlights of the fight were on in NBA locker rooms around the league, and players stopped buttoning their shirts or paused mid-sentence during interviews to see what happened.

"Obviously, it's unfortunate. You never want to see that. It just doesn't belong in the NBA," said Dallas forward Dirk Nowitzki, who saw clips of the brawl shortly after the Mavericks had won in New Orleans. "Hopefully we can all forget about it as soon as we can."

With each team forced to put five new players on the floor, Denver finished up the win and ended a two-game losing streak. Camby had 24 points and nine rebounds, and Miller added 12 points and 10 assists.

Anthony was in the midst of a superb second half, having scored 23 points in 23 minutes after halftime. He finished with 34.

Camby, a former Knicks center, added seven blocked shots, and the Nuggets shot a season-best 57 percent from the field.

Stephon Marbury had his best game of the season for the Knicks, scoring a season-high 31 points and adding eight assists. Eddy Curry had 19 points, Robinson scored 17, and Lee finished with 12 points and 15 rebounds.

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Carmelo clearly didn't punch him. And he wasn't running away, he was shifting his body to get a better position. If he was running away, he wouldn't be running backwards.

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Nate Robinson is good.

"They just wanted to embarrass us," said Nate Robinson of the Knicks. "It was a slap in the face to us. As a team, as a franchise, we weren't going to let that happen. A clean, hard foul happened and after that it went down from there."

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lmao melo running away after smacking collins was pretty funny

wat a richard simmons

ANYWAY

for anyone who thought the knicks season couldn't get any worse, it did

and if melo and smith get hit with anything like we saw from the palace two years ago (though i doubt no ones going to be suspended for the whole season), the nuggets just dug themselves a very very deep hole

anyway see a new wave of 'stern rules' coming on?

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