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Now I'm sure I really can't express myself well in english and/or I don't understand what others write and if it is directed to me, so I will try to be clearer and serious, without sarcasm.
@linzer03 I wrote it was crazy, I don't think it was the case, I only added it because I like to think of all possibilities. It wouldn't be the first time celebrities fake a relationship to boost their popularity. Did that relationship really harm her career? I didn't know, she is more popular now, thanks to RM of course, so I don't see the difference before and after her relationship with the CEO. I also think JH developed her feelings for JK while she was with her ex, but then I don't understand the CEO, unless their relationship was already spoiled, so he didnt' care to let others think they were still together for two years, but still is strange or maybe he didn't see JK and JH closeness.@airplanegirl I don't need to be convinced, and I understand why everyone is excited about the picture (now two pictures), I'm too, because this is another piece of the puzzle for me, but I can't deny it would be the same if they are just friends, so I want to take it as it is, they hang out together out of work. Actually it's already a big deal for me, they don't have problems to show their relationship (whatever it is) anymore.
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@athoughtcloud1 Don't worry, even when I let my imagination go wild, my rationality remains and, if they are really dating, I don't think they will go public untill RM ends, so let's enjoy this friendly image they are showing in this period.
Actually it's pretty normal they hang out together, everyone can tell they are close, to the point they are considered brother and sister from other fanbases, it was strange it wasn't said before, it's wellknown JK's "JH belongs to Gary", when he was asked to grade his closeness with other members, now it isn't a problem anymore.
@linzer03 I agree with you, too many suspicious moments and comments, that's why I think they are not just friends and I'm here talking about them, few moments wouldn't make me curious about them either, moreover if I can see how JH acts with other friends, like KS. But even if I make my assumptions, I'll never be sure, unless they say otherwise
About when it started, if it started, I have so many doubts, I saw them grow closer in late 2011 and I thought it could have started in summer 2012, because there were a lot of iconic moments in those episodes, but after a while I read she was with the CEO at that time. It's confusing. If I explain those moments with friendiship, like a sand castle everything will fall down, so...
These are my ideas: 1) they developed their feelings slowly and JH had a change of heart in that period, she broke up with her boyfriend and started to date JK; 2) JH and CEO broke up before, after that she and JK started to be closer; 3) JH never dated the CEO, she wanted to avoid the loveline (this is really crazy XD);4) JH broke up with the CEO in 2013, like said in the interview, they evolved from friends to couple; 5) JK and JH were and are just friends.
It's obvious there weren't hard feelings between JH and her ex or they would annunce it immediately (so the first hypotesis is improbable) and I understand she remained in the agency because of the contract, but I don't see the need to let other think you are still in a relationship when you broke up, I can't imagine how frustrating it would be. Maybe nobody asked, so she didn't care or the pressure would be unbearable, I don't know..-
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It would be rational to say this doesn't prove anything, we also saw a picture of JK, KS and Tiny out of work and obviously nobody made a fuss about it (maybe some kooksoofans XD) , BUT it's so good to see them together
It's probably the first time we can see them hanging out when work isn't involved (RM, fanmeetings, awards), even if JH herself declared she went to the tan salon with JK "several times", so I can't brush it off as simply hanging out with friends. Probably they didn't care about the rumor, because it wasn't a real "scandal", but do they really have to stimulate shippers's imagination? JK doesn't like lovelines anymore, even if not official, isn't it the same if you have fans who ship you with someone else? Maybe is even worse.
Can I be overdelusional for a little while? It seems they are preparing the fans about their relationship. First JH chose to join WAIL and it brought to the end of MC (at least for a while, but doesn't seem temporary), then they make it clear they hang out together.
Ok, end of delusion
I hope spartacers will stop to comment the picture on dgghotdog (I don't know him, but thanks XD) instagram account, there is no need.-
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@maryann Byun Yoo Han (1986), Mason Lee (1990 or is he another Mason Lee?); ikon BI (1996), they are 5, 9 and 15 (LOL) years younger, maybe 5 years isn't that much, but 9 and 15 are practically another generation XD and I don't think praising someone else implies a romantic interest. Anyway, it's my point of view and I don't like big age difference, but (thankfully) everyone has a different opinion
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@athoughtcloud probably older women don't see a young man always as a toyboy). It's okay you are not spoiling the thread, the only thing I don't understand is on what basis you think JK is waiting/ pondering/ wasting time and he will regret if he doesn't go out with JH, we don't know what they think, but for me is really difficult to imagine JK (or anyone else) waiting to declare himself struggling with a lot of guys to conquer the "big catch" heart, I only see two people with a close relationship and I'm curious to know what kind it is.
@athoughtcloud I imagined they would cut the scene, we will never know who they were talking to or why they had their hands in that way, and I'm happy I dragged you into my delu about JK's "I hope JH will understand"
They were really close during the episode, so was it the PD? MC existed before, they didn't have problems with it; WAIL just started so isn't the issue either, even if I read somewhere Finland was the last shooting ( I'm not sure it's true), it's still going on air or did the rumors calmed down in Korea? Whatever is the reason, glad to see them more natural around eachother. That picture is an interesting one, obviously that is JK but I'm not sure if he and JS are standing, anyway she chose to include JK even if she was aiming to JS's head (an artwork LOL). If I follow my delusions... she was told JK had to piggyback Seohyun and she wanted the same treatment, but even if fun to imagine it, it's more likely she was standing behind-
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@maryann I don't know what is going on between JK and JH, but I'm pretty sure they decided the type of relationship long ago, it happens to develop feelings after a while, but it's not always the case, usually you categorize people: friends or love interests; and I don't believe they put on hold their feelings, from my point of view there are three options: they are dating, they don't see each other in a romantic way, there were feelings but decided to avoid any complication. Nobody waits, not so long, it's already difficult to mantain a relationship because people change, if you can't fulfill your feelings you go on, maybe I'm too cynical (or old XD), but usually life is like that About the guys you mentioned, how do you know they are interested in her? I'm just curious, and to be honest I'm dumbfounded with the age difference between JH and most of the guys in your list, I don't know JH's preferences, but it sounds a little crazy to picture a 34 years old woman with a 20 or 25 years old guy. Toyboys are a trend, but it's for women in their 40/50ies and the men are usually in their 30ies, I'm 32 and a guy in is twenties is just a kid.
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@athoughtcloud1 my delu: JK is teasing JH with Park Bo Gum, the conversation could be something like this
JK: "JH likes you so much, please meet her"
JH:"geez, let me speak, you are embarassing me"
It's fun making up a situation from a mere picture LOL
He already knows she doesn't see PBG as a man, he was so curious about it after the RMI
Maybe this will get cut and we will never know or they are talking about something else , but it would be hilarious if we are right, let's see how much delusional we can be or if we know them enough
I agree about the second picture, it's before or after the one we are (playfully) talking about, can be seen, even if partially, the same hands position and JK's sweatshirt, he is the only one with a picture (terrifying XD) on it.
Ah, I was thinking about the time JK chose JH against Sulli (if I remember correctly), obviously the age gap played a big role, but there were some ineteresting things about it. Given that, on a previous choice, JK used the fact one of the celebrities was in a relationship to eliminate her, Moon Hee Joon pointed out JH had a boyfriend too, JK didn't really care about it and his reason was "she is pretty and I work with her" (those may not have been the exact words, but that was the gist). When he eliminated her, he said something like "JH will understand me" as he was apologizing, that was a little confusing. She is in a relationship, you are not interesed in her, shouldn't she be glad you eliminated her? Maybe celebrities worry about a stupid thing like that and they whine if another woman is chosen, I can't imagine JH saying "Do you think she is more beautiful than me?", it sound more like Snow White's stepmother, but I don't find other reasons. Better ideas?-
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@bidovacsb don't worry it's not a bad news and thank you for the translation! It doesn't change the fact that now she can freely pinch his butt or bite his chest, but at that time JK wasn't totally comfortable with it
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@athoughtcloud1 I always wondered why they can't see, so I came up with possible grounds:
- some people could be easily manipulated, I'm not implying they are stupid, so no offence, but they don't have a personal opinion and follow someone else's idea, it's the same thing that happens with commercials;
- there are people who passively watch a show just to take a break and don't waste time thinking what they are watching, nothing bad about it either, but I like to anylize people and their behaviour, maybe I'm the one with issues;
- some ship them with someone else or are biased towards them;
- who started to watch RM from the first episode and skip here and there, could be flabbergasted to know there are SA shippers. I watched all the episodes together so it was easy to spot moments between JH and JK, and when I started to pay attention I found this forum and other sources, but if for me were enough few weeks from episode 1 to episode 100 (just for instance, but these are the episodes I needed to notice), for them two years have passed, it's a long time.It doesn't change the fact that they are intimate (is it too much? But close isn't enough XD) and only one or some of the moments you mentioned could make me think there is something between them that goes beyond friendship, maybe it will never become reality (bad timing, fear to ruin a friendship, concern because they have to work together and so on) but attraction, care, affection, skinship, closeness (and the list can be longer) are under our eyes, they don't see because they can't or don't want to.
About episode 32, I don't know korean (of course XD) so I interpreted 'gwenchaneyo' the same way. At that time JH was still cautious around JK, and JK was just starting to be a little more friendly with her, so probably she was afraid she went a little overboard, and wanted to see JK reaction and he reassured her.-
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@maryann it's not the same, JH and JK aren't in an official loveline,and I would never thought there was something between them if they were. In a show like WAIL they need chemistry between the leads, it's like a drama,but that doesn't mean it's real, otherwise all actors will change partner after every movie or drama, sometimes it happens, but it's not a rule (luckily for real partners of actors/actresses
). They have a script to follow, probably not as detailed as a drama or movie, but they are directed, of course you are free to believe they are actually free to do and say whatever cross their mind. Like I said I watch WAIL because I want to see if there are similarities, an actress will always be inspired by experience
@gimo3 I didn't know she didn't have problems to date in public in the past, thank you for the info.-
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@athoughtcloud1 Thank you for sharing your delu, I understand what you are saying, we are on the same page About JK, I think he was politely answering "either of them" without hidden messages, but it's too fun to always find a way to make their words fit perfecty in my theories
Like you pointed out, people around SA (dragon brothers, Tiny Oppa, the tan salon girl, Haha , I add JSJ and JH's friend Choi Yeo Jin ) are suspicious, their actions or words played a big part in my spartacer status. Of course there will always be an other explanation,but sometimes it seems more forced than a shipper delusion. "They need followers" "he was joking" are the most popular, but does Tiny oppa really need followers? Even if it was true, it will be more convenient to let shippers out, because it will be enough to have all JK's fans, and we all know spartacers are only a tiny part. The same is for the tan salon girl, I don't know how many korean shippers there are but there are a lot of international fans among shippers, it's not like tomorrow I wake up and take a 12 hours flight to get a tan just because she tags sa
JSJ posted (after a while he deleted it) an edited pic of JK and JH kissing, he is an expert about internet and social networks, it could be a mistake, but it's unlikely.
There are a lot of strange coincidences around JH and JK, it's the same with their moments, if JH had half of the skinship she had with JK with someone else, nobody would say they are brother and sister. I'm really curious to watch WAIL for that, too. If she takes CB hand or she puts a blanket on him, or leans on his shoulder there will be tons of fans saying it's so romantic, they are in love, and so on, because someone told them to think about them like a couple, but if she does the same with JK she is a sister, I'll never understand double standards.-
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@tee2015 I actually love 1N2D (I skipped most of season 2 though), is my first korean show and I started to know and love Korea (such a beautiful country!) through it. I can't compare RM and 1N2D, they are so different, I love both of them
I don't understand IC, I watched several episodes, but I barely smiled twice, I gave up.
@athoughtcloud1 Yes, I watched the episode, but I skipped several parts, it was cringyworthy for me, but again it's probably a cultural difference.
I have been forcing myself to watch WAIL, I'm too curious and thankfully it's only half an hour I can't dany it...I want to see if there is some similarity in the way she acts with a boyfriend,even if fake (or maybe she will like him, who knows?) and JK (I'm loosing my mind, I know ). I'm happy she is enjoying herself doing what she couldn't do with previous boyfriends, she is like a kid at the amusement park and it's so good to see again the JH I appreciated and not a mere shadow of herself. I don't know if it's because I never was a MC fan, and maybe the cold made her eyes watery, but when she run away from the murales, I thought she really was terrifiied by the "ghost" of monday couple and everything it meant and means.
@athoughtcloud1 share your delu moments, please I thought the same thing while she was massaging CB and while she was giving him food ("JK oppa chicken breast" LOL)
About immature shippers I agree, it's okay to have opinions and thoughts about them, we all have, but I hope everyone will keep in mind it's all in our head, unless they say otherwise, and even if they will be together publicly, it doesn't concern anybody else what they do with their relationship. In general (I'm not talking about SA), I don't understand how people judge breakup, cheating and so on, is somebody's else life, nobody can know what happens between two people.
So JK thinks the right man for JH is some good looking man she knows well or works with...good to know
I also think he already has someone, not necessarily JH, but there should be someone or I'll start to think he has a list of potential girlfriends (or maybe an imaginary one XD) and he will pick whoever at the moment he decides to marry, at least this way I can understand why even if he declares to be single, he always talks about marriage in two years, an year, as soon as possible, etc. And it's so hilarious everyone asks him when, but they never ask with who
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I always thought ep.23 was the worst so far, after this episode I should reconsider. It was more like infinity challenge, and even if I tried many times to watch it, those types of show and humor aren't my style. I can understand they are trying new (?) concepts, but how could they waste more than 50 minutes to introduce guests? The games got cut, they weren't interesting, but I bet they were better than people getting in a car. Maybe it's time for me to stop watching running man, it's becoming painful, I hope the members restart to enjoy themselves, because at the moment I only see them struggling against boredom (maybe excluding JS and SJ). Perhaps it's only my perception, and I'm the one tired of the show, so I only see the shortcomings, but that will be one more reason to distance myself, I don't want to hate running man, it was a great stress reliever for me, not anymore.
I'll give the new PDs some time, let's see how it goes.
@athoughtcloud1 about EC I'm sad too, it was an interesting show, I learned a few things from it, didn't they change the MCs only few weeks ago? Moreover I have less opportunities to watch JK, if RM get cancelled too, I'll have a breakdown
At least JK and JH were standing and sitting next to each other, and, even if it's not a SA moment, It was so heartwarming to see them cleaning up KS together, likewise I liked how HaHa was concerned about KS, like @athoughtcloud1 pointed out, I think HaHa was bewildered they were pushing KS so hard and making fun of him, there should be a limit. I hope it was really KS bad luck, because it will be so sad if it wasn't. There were: chulk dust, face drawing, unwanted kisses, sprayed with ink, raw egg, wasabi, bitter drink and maybe I forgot something, it seems the day of someone bullied, obviously they did it for fun, and maybe there is a big cultural difference, but if it was scripted, they went overboard, they could find other ways to show bad luck, and by the way I agree the episode wasn't even about bad luck, especially the guests, it seemed more about unsuccessful career.@tee2015 again, you posted while I was writing, and we wrote almost the same things
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I don't know if it's me, the fever or low expectations, but I liked the episode way more than I expected
It's not a typical RM episode, and yes the screentime wasn't the same for everyone, but I laughed a lot, and in comparision with previous episodes it worked for me. Maybe the MC date took too long, but it was hilarious with the members's remarks. I was wrong about the new PDs and now I understand why they did it, it's an end, obviously there will be MC shippers in denial, but they can't be clearer than this. Maybe there will always be jokes about MC, or couple race with them paired up, but they want to let viewers (the ones who believe they are dating) know it's only business, it's not the first time, but I got the impression it was the last.
JK and Ha Ha had a little more screentime (KS less), not enough for me, but better than before and if we count the screentime, Gary and JH aside, it was divided equally. Of course I would have preferred different topics about the members and if there were also questions about JK, HaHa (and KS), but at least they were there and they spoke, a miracle!
The interesting part...
Maybe I'm too delusional on this one, but not only JH mentioned she went with JK at the tan salon several times (LOL) but she wasn't even considering it as being alone with other members, at first she said it was only the second time she hanged out with a RM member alone, after KS, then she speaks about JK. Maybe she was only distinguishing between meals and other occasions, but it sounded more like "ah JK is a member too, I should put him at the same level as Gary and KS, even if we are used to see eachother outside".
JK reactions during the date were priceless, mostly when they moved to the third location, he was anxious, what was he thinking? Dinner, movie...hotel? even HaHa was saying "solma" (I'm sorry to koreans, I don't know how to romanize it) that should mean "it can't be", usually is translated like it.
When KS said he would like to switch body with JH was another remarkable moment, JK was asking reasons with his arms folded LOL-
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@athoughtcloud I know, right? He is too cautious, but that is his personality, so I try to understand him and probably I envy him a little because I'm the opposite, I don't know what patience is and I say whatever I'm thinking
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It's good to know we are not insane
I didn't see the episode yet, so I don't know what they were talking about, but I just love the way she doesn't care about rumors. In this situation we can see how different JH and JK are. Whether they are dating or not, they choose an opposite approach to divert rumors, and even if I understand JK, I like her guts!-
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yes, that is the one! Thank you
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@tee2015 and @athoughtcloud1 I agree with you, and probably yes I'm annoyed by the situation, I know they are not free, is the same for all celebrities, they are more "products" than people for the agencies or producers, but even if I understand fans's complaints, I don't want to complain anymore about it, I reached my limit
I mentioned "blackmail" and "not easy choice" because, if we get to the point, the only choice she had was to give up her role in RM and like @athoughtcloud1 said probably not only that. I understand her, the world doesn't need an hero, we are talking about her life, career and money, she would be foolish, but this is how far I can support her and I really hope she will benefits from this in the long run.
At the moment this is my concern, if there isn't a collaboration between chinese WAIL and RM about MC, then it could jeopardize her future in chinese market. What do you think about it? I'm really confused and I would like to know other opinions about it.
About Gary's Halyang, I dont know if SBS invested in it, but I always thought they supported Gary more than necessary with a lot of special episodes, MC, amazing prizes and so on. I'm biased, I know, but these are facts
I didn't know about those speculatons about JK and his agency, till now I was thinking he didn't get so much screentime because he wasn't so active and he seems fed up with RM, but this would be an interesting (actually sad) reason. @athoughtcloud1 to answer your question: yes, it's weird he has to promote MC and more than once you can see his actions don't agree with his words, he promotes MC but at least three times I saw him turn around when JH and Gary hugged for a game, one time is an accident, two times could be concidence, three times is an habit. Obviously he is pressured to promote MC, and probably it's even convenient for him if he and JH are real. To tell the truth more than once I hoped I was wrong about SA, if they are really together it must be so frustrating now, at first it could be thrilling but in the long run it can affect the relationship. However there are too many moments I can't explain with friendship, and at this point probably I'll always think there were feelings between them, even if they will never date and tomorrow I see in the news they are dating somebody else. I can be considered delusional, but I rely on my gut feelings.
To cheer up:
I was watching old episodes and I caught a new sa moment, at least for me. I don't know how to make gifs, so I will explain what happened. In episode 144 around 00:22 Ji Hyo leans forward to take the envelope because she won the nametag removing, after she ripped JK's nametag, and you can see JK smiling in disbelief after he sees her back and JH smirks. I think probably she put his nametag or both of them to make up for the "betrayal", I don't know what was on JH's back, but I found them so cute! I hope in some charitable soul who will make the gif -
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At this point I'm really confused. Something it's not right. WAIL's producers don't care if JH is in another loveline? To me it seems insane, usually that type of show can only count on shippers, but RM team is putting them at the crossroads. Even if on sunday episode they will say MC is only for business (dating or not, doesn't change the fact they will say the same things again and again), after they show that sort of date (at least is what it looks like), the fans will say "they can't say they are dating, JH is doing Wail, buhu poor Gaelly oppa and Ji Hyo unni, I hope they will get married as soon as WAIL ends", and the PDs know it as well as I do. they are only trying to give them some hope, so they don't waver. It's unprofessional. Maybe I don't know how showbiz works in China or Korea, but I'm following the logic. The investors need a popular show, because that will mean more income with advertising slots. WAIL will have more ratings if the viewers will find the couples interesting, if they will think there is the possibility the couples will became real, etc. that show can only have this aim, they put celebrities together and hope people love them, it's the easiest thing in the world, make people gossip. But now they have one of the lead in another loveline, more alive then ever, and moreover that's what made her popular (I know she is a lot more than MC girlfriend, but let's get real here, they always ask about MC, even when it's only JH), so shouldn't it be a problem? But I'm starting to think, WAIL production team also agree with this, perahaps they want to draw the attention on the differences or create more anticipation (any press is good press, right?), otherwise all this chaos will put JH in an awkward position.
Whatever the case may be, I won't pity her, even if it sounds more like a "blackmail" (it's too strong, but I don't know which word is more suitable): or you act like the monday girlfriend or you are out, you will always have a choice in your life. We could see a similar behaviour, or rather disrespect, from the PDs last year (in a minor key), when they did the online petition for YEH as guest in RM, JK had to apologize for something he didn't do, but from that moment they never mentioned YEH again, not even on the show, I dont think they regretted it, probably JK put an end to it.
I don't know if this will bring her more popularity and work and if it was worth it, but now I take for granted she is okay with it (at least partly), unless she is really dating Gary, I can respect her choice, but I won't agree with it. However, her life, her choices, she will be prepared for the outcomes,and I'll like her as before and I wish her luck
I'm sorry if I sound sour, maybe I'm, and with a cold and my tonsils as big as lemons, I only became more cranky, but I tried to be unbiased at least
@tee2015 Practically I wrote the same thing as "she wants to eat the cake and keep it" I read your post only after I posted mine (I'm slow at writing in english). I'm sure It wasn't direct to me, but I'll try to explain my position better, although I think I wrote something similar in some old post,whatever I'll repeat myself
I also think she isn't happy with her role, from the beginning actually, but this doesn't change the fact she's doing it even now, after 6 years (almost), she seems forced, but it's not like she is a slave, at some point if she was so annoyed by it, she should have ended the MC in a way or another. It' s not an easy choice and from my POV is not right they put her in this situation, maybe she didn't even have any serious help from her agency (does she have one now? O__O), but it's true she benefits from MC, and after all these years, I can't see her only as the poor victim. She decided to keep MC alive, I don't think she is so passive that she accepts everything they tell her to do. There isn't right and wrong in this type of choices, maybe I would have done a different choice, maybe not, but whatever you choose, you have to live with that, if you regret it or not, is a different matter.
Just for a laugh...(credit to owner)
do MC fans think KS's manager/staff is in love with Gary,too? LOL-
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I watched escape crisis last episode, they were talking about kids who already date when they are 11-12 years old. so a girl asked the MCs what is the difference between a male friend and a boyfriend, and that's JK's answer. When an other MC answered he pointed out it's normal to touch your friends, he also said he holds hands or pat the head of his friend when they are playing or if she ( he didn't specifically say a female friend, but the question was about male-female relationship) does a good job. I could only think about Ji Hyo, maybe he took the chance to distance himself from the rumors, even if it wasn't the case and he was talking in general terms, I'm just curious how will he consider holding hands in the back of a car or on an helicopter, or everytime a game is not involved.
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I need some more episodes to confirm that JK and JH are avoiding each other on screen, for now it seems obvious, but the type of episodes didn't allow a lot of interactions among the members, so I'm waiting next episode were they should be more free, from what I saw there shouldn't be teams nor outdoor missions. JK seems so stubborn on his "let's ignore JH", while JH still has her moments, why was she happy when he passed the mission? Sure he's only a coworker/friend
I don't understand if they are trying to resurrect or to shatter MC. Is it possible RM's PDs, editors, screenwriters, etc didn't know ahead of time there would have been complaints from the fans, with the only exception of MC's fans? I'm sure there are a lot of MC's fans, but I don't think it's only them, even among international fans, the more they push it, the more people will get sick of it, it's normal. In this episode MC's screentime is only in the beginning, a minute probably, and they continue to show a reluctant JH, if they really wanted to emphasise MC, they did a big mistake, it's too stupid to be true. The umpteenth article about MC was enough to upset K-netz, they had enough of it, I don't think RM team can actually ignore it, they will continue to lose viewers, even if they say ratings are not important, how is that believable? MC is not the only issue, but if they thought it could have saved the show, then this negative reaction should be a wake-up call for them.In episode 292 yet again Gary and JH will be in the same team, probably it'll never end
Last episode was boring, there were only few funny moments, the game in the end wasn't interesting and the editing didn't help. I put my hope in next episode, I wish they'll focus on all the members,but probably it's a forlorn hope, if the questions I read will be confirmed http://www.soompi.com/2016/03/14/new-producer-for-running-man-holds-qa-session-with-members/. How can someone ask "does Gary really look like a squid?" or "does Ji Suk Jin really have a large nose?" is another concern, can't you answer it by yourself? Bah. Even worse these could have been picked, the fact JK's brother was invited as an expert, could be a confirmation.-
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I vote 1 & 4 thank all of you for your hard work
@tee2015 I think he was sayng his last date was a year ago, but JK on healing camp (january 2015) said it was 2-3 years from his last date he was lying this year on HT, last year on HC or both. I don't really think he or other celebrities never cought are so careful, but in some way they are able to block articles,the most likely possibility: they or their agency pay. There are couples dating but only after many years they go public, everybody knows (people involved in showbiz) but journalists? I can't believe it.
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even HaHa was saying "solma" (I'm sorry to koreans, I don't know how to romanize it) that should mean "it can't be", usually is translated like it.
I hope in some charitable soul who will make the gif 
[Official] SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo
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Hi everyone, long time no see!
I was expecting a JK's and JH's departure from RM,JK is my favourite and I obviously like JH, but I need to be honest,they weren't in the show anymore.The PDs didn't help them find another character and they became unnecessary, it's sad but it's how I feel about them. It's not their fault, RM right now it's a food show, they only eat and have little fights and the PDs choose YJS and LKS for that, JK was already out of the picture. They eliminated the use of body and brain and even rivalry between YJS and JK, seriously what was JK supposed to do in RM? JH too was left out, she couldn't be the ace anymore, there was no place for her. They aren't comedian, Haha and LKS aren't either, but they adapt better and the concept of episodes right now needs comedians.It doesn't even work, so they change the cast. For me the issue is the script, but that's only my opinion.
That said, there is always a way to handle things. SBS was cold, unfair and even stupid, the backfire is no joke. Obviously it happens in every work, and JK and JH aren't poor jobless people right now, but it doesn't mean SBS couldn't have done better than this. For me it was ok if they gave them notice and more important if they didn't try to blame them. Their plan is clear now: fire JK and JH, so they can afford KHD, make it like it was SA choice and then if the show sinked, let them be scapegoats. Something went wrong, tiny thank you. Now I don't know if someone will sign for season 2, maybe some rookie will, but someone with a decent career will follow KHD example, they will stay away from this mess.
I'm sorry for the other members too, some of them know each other from long ago (HH, JS; JK) and/or are friends (JK; LKS; JH), how awkward could it be to continue the show? I don't expect them to quit out of friendship,that would be idiocy, and it would be unfair to them, they don't need to show support and friendship to fans and fans shouldn't blame them for doing their job (if RM doesn't get axed), let's be real, those fans who are asking for a public support from the ramaining members would give up their job for a friend? I don't think so. Also I don't think JK and JH would expect this from them, now everybody knows how disrespectul SBS was, there is no need to put themself in a bad position with one of three major BS. If JK and JH took tons of insults from fans and only after a long time we knew the truth, then I could have blamed JSJ; HH; LKS and YJS, but it's not the case. So let them swallow this bitter pill, I pity them, it will be so uncomfortable.
At this point I'm not so sure Gary left in his own accord, we will never know probably.
On the bright side, SA are free now, my hope didn't die in the meantime.