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JSM just posted an IG reel featuring every RM members and crew and she included her photo with each members except SJH and KJK (and YSC got a standalone photo lol)

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Idk but for me when you are more emotionally connected with a person, it will become even harder for you to play pretend or just throwing out random comments since you know well about how the other person feels about leaving.

 

They are for sure closer than what being shown to us, and KJK silence, I feel like it is more of him being considerate and understanding, not upset or anything. Also, he’s a very sensitive person and knows to read the mood well so I put my trust that he knows best what kind of reaction works best in that situation.

 

And on more delusional note, IF they do end up together, imagine the backlash they would receive when people look back at KJK throwing jokes about her leaving, making fun of her. It probably wont be received well by the public as they may label it as “trying so hard to cover stuffs” 

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15 minutes ago, Polaris Sonata said:

who wrote the lyrics for their song?

Somin participated in writing the lyrics  There’s behind the scene of the entire process in Youtube as well 

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Let’s let the next episode end before we say goodbye to each other :’) 

 

Anyway, I finally listened to JSM new song MAYO and maybe it’s the kookmin shipper in me but it honestly reminded me of KJK and JSM.

 

That song is about the girl feeling burdened when being shown love by someone who is sometimes cheesy sometimes soft, the translation is as follows:

 

Rough English translation of MAYO by Somin + SRG

 

(Somin)

At first, I thought it was a coincidence.
But strangely, it feels like you know me well.
I can do it myself.
Don't take care of me in a way that makes me freeze up.
Because it makes my heart flutter.

Sometimes, you're soft.
Other times, you're cheesy.
I don't know if you know it or not, but it's confusing/vague.

Even though, once in a while, I want to see you, it's burdensome.
Ultimately, it's going to end the same way, so....

Please don't be good to me.
Please don't hang around me.
Please don't look at me with that expression in your eyes.
Please don't get close to me.
I don't want to be hurt anymore.
Please don't like me.

(Shim)

How can this be?
I tried to empty myself
Because I'm already full of thoughts about you.
My actions were uselessly awkward.
Pretending it was no big deal.
Even if I take care of you and reveal my heart,
If you don't notice, then it has no meaning.
You're in the wrong.

(Somin)

Sometimes, you're soft.
Other times, you're cheesy.
I don't know if you know it or not, but it's confusing/vague.

Even though, once in a while, I want to see you, it's burdensome.
Ultimately, it's going to end the same way, so....

Please don't be good to me.
Please don't hang around me.
Please don't look at me with that expression in your eyes.
Please don't get close to me.
I don't want to be hurt anymore.
Please don't like me.

(Shim)

Please don't run away.
We haven't even begun yet.
I won't hide anymore.

(Somin)

I'm pleading with you, go far away from here.
If you approach me with indifference,
My mind goes blank.

(Shim)

Will you stop saying that now?

(Shim+Somin together)

I don't like you.
No I do like you.
Actually, I do too, very much.

(Somin)

Please don't be good to me.
Please don't hang around me.
Please don't look at me with that expression in your eyes.
Please don't get close to me.
I don't want to be hurt anymore.
Please don't like me.

(Shim, spoken)

I like you.

(Somin, spoken)

Huh?
Hmmm...
The weather is so nice....

 

And to be honest the male singer has the similar voice like KJK so it is not hard to imagine them two singing this song together in the future.

 

Also, note that there was use of formality in the song, indicating that the guy she sang about is an older person, and yes JSM took part in writing the lyrics.

 

She also mentioned about the song being named Mayo due to the high calories mayonnaise that goes along with many type of food and it got me thinking why did calories being specifically mentioned lol

 

So, I know we are walking towards the end of our route here as a shipper but there’s likeliness that KJK is the one who she is singing about.

 

Also there’s literally no reason for KJK and JSM to completely stop interacting in RM, unless because they already have a big plan in their mind and keeping it lowkey when they are going towards the revelation/ announcement might be part of it?

 

Its just not making any sense that they stop talking to each other but we can still see how KJK smiled and be alerted at everything she does YET they dont talk to each other at all? Something is definitely up

Let me know what you guys think

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3 hours ago, kyoko22 said:

2) When Chanmin strictly denied when V confuse if they really dating. The rest of members laughed or smiled. It's quite funny with the way how swifted Chanmin denied it. Except for JK. Seems like he didn't find any humor in this. The same situation in the Family Outing episode, Somin fell in love with YSC's fried chicken. YJS teased that Somin can eat it forever if she marry YSC. He didn't joined in this joke. Instead, he got prickly and started to argue with YJS. Yet, that Oppa laughed happily when YJS said Somin can ride JK's car if she marry him. 

Yep when the other members were laughing about JSM-YSC being boyfriend girlfriend KJK did his usual stoic, serious face, then he quickly shifted the subject back to the game. This happens a lot of time already it’s nice to see this man being consistent with his reaction 

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Anyone have seen the latest episode? Any Kookmin moments??

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Omg during the skit in the car JSM and KJK (without anyone asking them to) suddenly get into a scenario of KJK wife nagging to him and it was because of his habit of using towels for long time and when JSM said he need to wash his towel regularly but or it’ll smells and KJK said “I hang it outside when it’s wet and the sun dries it so it won’t smell” and JSM funnily snapped “Thats what you think!! ( here she used informal 니 (ni) as you) and KJK immediate response was “Yeobo (honey), what’s with the 니 (ni)” like skskskksnndna WHY DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO USE YEOBO HERE IN THIS UNSERIOUS SKIT 

 

These two is really playing with our heart at this point ughh and him saying if she keeps nagging about the smell he’ll just playfully hug her, asking “Do I smell now?” Sksksksksk

 

 

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2 hours ago, YonkoZZul said:

Hi everyone, I'm new here in this forum but a long~~~~~~time fan of KookMin couple, always spend time here without an account and now I think I need to create an account after that Rolls Royce comment

Helloooo Glad we have a new friend on board!! Excited to hear more thoughts on Kookmin from you! 

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Lol you’d never be able to give such details unless you have a specific person in your mind 

Why does he keeps dropping hints now I wonder if the wedding is really coming near

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I just find it funny that when JSM was competing table tennis with SJH you can see and hear JK saying “you’re doing good”, “thats it” when JSM was doing well.

 

Like, my dude, focus please, she’s from the opponent team   He tried to control his expressions but u can still see he was impressed 

 

Also, from @MandelBrot3rd gifs, you can tell that KJK was part of the scheme when JSM sneaked into YSC’s spot. HH was playing his phone as usual yet KJK pretended to sleep when he was obviously on his phone before. And, considering the situation, the editor will usually include the behind the scene right? Like in this situation the scene when JSM sneaking into YSC spot but to my surprise they didn’t show us anything.

 

Is it because it is not something that can be shown to general public? 

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Other subtle KookMin moments that I like in this episode!

 

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1. When the staff mentioned that they will be making their own fire that day JSM immediately looked at KJK while smiling (and they cut the scene to other members)

 

2. Before the staff revealed the size of the pumpkin land they need to work on, JSM were talking to KJK and he had that soft expression and nod to her, agreeing to whatever she was saying.

 

3. When JSM joined to do the rapping stage (like HH and YSC) did, instead of showing to others she specifically did that to KJK and KJK reacted with eye smile and said “You’re doing good” (lol)

 

4. Honestly there’s really no reason for JSM to stay by KJK side while he’s making the fire yet she chose to be there and even concerned for his eyes (and you can see KJK returned her glasses  to her right after he’s done with the fire)

 

5. JSM once again went along with KJK being exercise mania, asking what kind of exercise will the work considered as, then showing interest with asking more questions and KJK reciprocated by responding to her every single question.

 

6. That one time when KJK already reached the end of the row yet when JSJ and YJS started nagging at JSM he immediately joined the bandwagon sksksksks

 

7. That scene where JSM suddenly powered up, pulling all the vines, although it was quite unclear, we can see KJK looking at her, smiling at her silliness and when they show the drone shot we can see that KJK was looking at her until she reached the end of the row. (Like, was it his ‘cant-take-my-eyes-off-you’ moment lol)

 

8. And the next thing we saw him staying by JSM side and coaching her to pull the vines? (Like.. why??skskksk)

 

9. When JSM was setting the table with the cutlery KJK just naturally take it from her hand, really reminded me of him saying he wont let his wife do any work (or something similar I can’t remember the exact words)

 

10. Also throughout the entire episode there were so many instances where both of them were not right beside one another yet they kept responding to each other’s remarks, despite how small or insignificant it is, showing how alert they are to one another’s voice. (Another sign of a close relationship)

 

11. JSM “All the oppa firmly wanted me to do the field work,”

KJK, not even a second after, “Not me, I didn’t say anything,”

 

To me this shows how he really aware of what to say and what not to say when it comes to JSM. Like if it’s just another spur moment to him there will be some sort of hesitation bcs he might got confused if he did or did not say it. But from the way he confidently say he wasn’t part of those oppas, shows that it was his very own choice to not push JSM to do the field work.

 

Also this shows that all those  moments from previous episodes where he kept quiet when others were badmouthing JSM, were all by choices. Why? I’ll leave that to your imagination 

 

12. With point 11 in mind, that moment when JSM pulled down her pants only to reveal that she’s wearing shorts underneath, we can see how unlike other oppas KJK face remain stoic as if he refused to react to that and I wonder why, was he unhappy with her or he just doesn’t want to show any reaction to that? 

Thats it. I may overlooked some moments so do let me know! But this episode is really a good one for us after being in drought for like 2 weeks 

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Are we not getting kookmin moments again this week 

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4 hours ago, Polaris Sonata said:

New Ep : 

i dont know why jk suddenly raise up bout not critic somin or else haha will b attacked by Somin' fans..or is he's been sarcastic towards other members fans? im not really happy the way they used somin to tease bout fans...worried that it may lead to another point for somins haters..

Right, I actually questioned the reason he did that too, although I havent got the chance to watch the episode yet, when I saw that part on twitter, I felt tad bit disappointed coz he should know better than to say that.

 

Really hope they said it with full understanding of the consequences tho.. we are so tired fighting off with jsm haters tryna use such remarks as receipts..

 

Anyhow, considering theres nobody saying anything about kookmin I assume they dont have any remarkable moment this week?

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Anyone else saw how after the first game KookMin just naturally walking towards the bus side by side and the cameraman deliberately shoot from the angle where they cannot be seen? Sus behaviour indeed.

 

Also in the bus before JSM hit KJK for laughing at HH’s joke she told KJK to scold HH for ridiculing her but instead KJK laugh aloud hence the hit and her asking cutely “why are you laughing~” (sounds so gf like Idk and KJK softly said he laughed because it’s funny sounds so bf-like imo)

 

And when HH made joke about JSM being ambassador for ‘Airhead Naengmyeon’ you can see that KJK looking at her adorably 

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Just wanna share my two cents with regards to that one scene when JSM hit KJK’s head.

 

Personally, I think she was genuinely upset with KJK’s opinion.

 

Basically KJK suggested that since the guy in situation A had a one night stand with other girl, then A’s girlfriend can just cooly had a one-night with other guy too before continuing dating guy A.

 

As he said that JSM went “I won’t be able to do that! (Continue dating the guy)” 

 

And then KJK went forward towards YJS, raising his voice to YJS (He did not said that to JSM because he was looking straight at YJS and YJS was about to say something before he cut him off saying “IM TALKING HERE!!” and you can see YJS was laughing)

 

Only then JSM stepped forward and repeat her point, “I won’t be able to do that!” And only at that time KJK heard her but before he was able to say anything JSM (who I think was genuinely frustrated with the way KJK think) hit his head, leaving KJK dumbfounded but also retreated, (lol gone all his rage before)probably bcs he sensed how she took his point personally rather than fr variety show. 
 

Then the members take it from there, making sure the situation look funny and not as serious but from Jieun’s and jihyo’s face I feel like they didn’t really see that situation as a funny or comedic one. You can see how Jieun’s eyes looking from JSM to KJK back and forth during their ‘confrontation’ 

 

I wish to know everyone else’s opinion too!

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Thank you for the gifs! I have not watch the full episode but based on the 3 gifs by @MandelBrot

 

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1.  1st gif -The key points here is the members who kept reminding JSM that they’re now role playing and KJK is now YongCheol and JSM is Oksun. To me it’s like, “It’s fine you want to be emotional to KJK but pls remember we are role playing rn and he’s not KJK so pls refrain from being emotional, Oksun-ssi”

 

2. 3rd gifs - JSM being all cheesy with Dex saying “I already made up my mind, you’re the one I choose” and HH pointed that out to KJK who was already staring at JSM, with an expression we never seen him wear to anyone else. And JSM quickly flustered and broke her character when she realised how he was looking and was smirking at her lol 

 

3. 2nd gif which was from the second part of the episode. I initially thought they looked far apart as the 2nd part began but oh well at least we have this subtle one. Her highlighting to KJK that “HH oppa start to treat me bad because you hit him just now~” like what is the co-relation? Why would she be the punchbag when HH is upset with KJK? How would treating JSM badly make HH feel like him getting back at KJK? 

 

note : I only watched briefly with my limited korean skills so I might missed the context and get it totally wrong. Do let me know if I do missed something.

 

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8 hours ago, Polaris Sonata said:

Hei guys...

 

when sechan sent somin to jk, im not sure whos voice saying "its the original picture", as refer to grouping... 

 Yep it was YSC voice basically meant “This is originally how it supposed to goes,” lol whatever he meant by that 

 

But other than that there were several subtle Kookmin moments too,like:

 

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1. When YJS said that SeHee had been in Problem Child in house (?) both KJK and JSM said at the same time how it was when KJK wasnt there. I didn’t watch the said show but it’s cute how JSM knew about it right away.

 

2. After JSM sat with Dex she kept turning her head to the back and from the angle it seems like she was looking at KJK way.

 

3. When it was decided that JSM will be in the same group with KJK instead of laughed it off right away YJS  stuttered and was about to say something but cut it off right away (since hey, the troublemaker JSM had to be in the same group with grumpy sparta when she was anticipating Dex) shouldnt he be making the situation comedic but man was like “So Somin is going to Jungkook?? But—eh..thats good(?)” Like why though?

 

4. Just like what JSM pointed out, why would KJK flinched lol could be that she usually just hit him whenever he tease her so his muscle memory just subconsciously reacted to that 

5. When JSM repeated the rule saying that they have the chance to win 20 hearts and KJK really looked at her with “This girl really think we’ll have the chance huh?” Like he looked at her as if she’s being ridiculous (realistically speaking, she is) 

 

6. I feel like JSM clung on KJK back for a bit longer time compared to whats being shown to us because when she started YJS was like behind them but then the next scene we saw YJS was at the opposite side (and to be fair KJK just repeated “Somin-ah I need to get up there so you can get on” without actually try to fight back) he only started playing properly after JSM get off his back. 

 

7. I cant help but noticed on JSM naughty giggling when she lay down in between KJK leg when both of them on the platform like girlie wyd lol and KJK repeated “Somin-ah” is so dramatic lol

 

8. KJK reaction when JSM stare at him for the lyrics of his song lol like why did his voice went lower as he explained himself to her 

 

9.The teaser!!! JSM saying “I will break my boyfriend apart if so!” then cut to her hitting KJK on head lol

 

I am kind of impressed with how much the pd let kookmin moments to air especially little parts where they were talking-whispering to one another before the game. 
 

And I feel like, again, when the two being put into team they will go with the theme “troublemaker JSM and grumpy KJK” couple and both of them played some sort of character to fit the role because come on the JSM who fear KJK is long gone and it seems to me those two just having fun during water game without actually trying to win. You can clearly see JSM naughty smile as she wrapped KJK back kekeke

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Thank you @MandelBrot for the GIFs there’s also that moment before the swimming pool game after the staff explained the rule and both of them talked with one another and the way KJK looked at her and smiled is so cute although sheepishly 

 

Love how JSM chose to be playful with him and just cling on his back wrapping both her arms and legs around KJK asking “You cannot get on it like this?” 

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56 minutes ago, kyoko22 said:

They are not permanently in the same group. They were a pair during the water game only. JK teased Somin who wore cap, saying she had pigeon hidden underneath. JK joked trying by catching the pigeon (aka her head). The water game part, rather then heart fluttering, it is so fun. No, basically the whole episode is really fun.

Really? I will then put my trust on you hahaha I was scared that they make this a ChanMin focused episode hence my reluctance to watch

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Saw some clips for today’s episode and for some reason I feel like there be little to none major Kookmin moments today despite them being in the same team. Idk I hope I’ll be proved wrong.

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This is probably already mentioned in this forum as it is from old episode but I was rewatching running man episode 414 and as they were saying final remarks during the ending, JSM who won the race clapped and someone’s name tag fell from her hand onto the floor.

 

though it’s not so clear it was obvious that the first character of the nametag was “Kim” and in that episode there was only 2 Kims but the guest’s nametag (Kim Roi Ha) was already handed to the pawnshop by JSM. So I believe the nametag that she kept and fell was indeed belong to KJK (also the guest name is 김뢰하 yet in the second character of the nametag there’s clearly a ㅇ at the bottom so yeah I believe its JK’s).

 

I don’t know if she ever posted it online? (Since she was the one tearing the nametag) but it was cute how she kept holding onto it even during final ending shot.

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I think it’s really cute that JSM really watched how KJK slept like intensely and included that very precise image of him sleeping in her drawing.

 

also, notice how in JSM drawing, her potrayals of other members are not as accurate and detail as KJK (and YJS but he was basically the main character in her drawing lol)? Like she drew HH sleeping on his right side when most of the time he slept on his back, YSC was drawn laying back with feet pointing to KJK side when it was actually the opposite (he only sit on that side before the snack cart came) and JSJ just randomly placed in front of the door when he was actually laying down beside her.

 

Idk about psychology but I do draw and paint a lot so I feel like to precisely paint a detail from your memory is kind of hard unless it’s something that you find interesting or memorable so how KJK looked when he slept must have been memorable to her since she even bothered to get that right (compared to HH’s drawing where everyone sleeping in same position; he’s less bothered about the details bcs the main point of the drawing is YJS slapping JSM’s forehead)

 

Like I draw for my friends especially for their birthday and stuffs and often times I’ll make short comic on times when it was most memorable to us and while doing that I tend to draw details like how their hair look at that time, what are the patterns on their shirt etc only because that’s what captured my eyes the most at that time.

 

But of course it may or may not be the case.

 

Also, I don’t like to comment on anyone’s state of mind as we never know what they have in their mind but I wonder if what the seonsaengnim said is true, what are the things KJK tried so hard to conceal? And os it just me or he was noticeably loud this episode to the point where he sounded like he was forcing enthusiasm. Is it just me tho? 

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Remember last week episode when KJK and JSM were in the same team and KJK opted to shove others around him just to go to JSM who’s hurting. Some may say “It’s because they’re in the same team, that’s just him being caring,”

 

But same things happened in the recent episode when his female team member got hit with the ball and he didn’t react and instead argued with the other team about whether it’s being considered as “out” or not.

 

I think we can say the two situations are pretty similar, both got his team members hurt yet the difference in his response to it was too obvious. And also, we can see that in both situations someone remain consistent-YJS.

 

In both situations he acted like the oppa who worries for his younger sis. Plus other male members also went to go check on SJH. But not KJK, not him.

 

Disclaimer: I have nothing against SJH and love her a lot as one of the members and this situation was just used to show comparison.

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lol what if the couple agreed to each tell one closest member in RM and JK chose to tell HH since they’re best friends and business partners who shares things with each other and JSM chose to tell YJS who is like a real brother to her.

 

So both went for different approach where YJS goes with teasing them with other people, stopping them from being too obvious, put blind eyes when seeing their interactions and not commenting while HH’s approach is more “I-see-nothing-I-hear-nothing-I-know-nothing so I’ll say nothing” kind.

 

but yeah considering how JSM and KJK both are wise and thoughtful yet also playful and cheeky it wont be hard to imagine those two giggling when coming up with plan to be not so obvious on screen.

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9 hours ago, peachyatlast said:

Hello! I love both Jongkook and Somin and I really like the vibes and discussions here! I finally created an account to talk about this as I've not seen anyone commented about this.

Welcome to the forum! Love how you wrote your observations! Looking forward for more from you 

 

Idk for me if I really go full delulu mode I’d say that they probably already together for like more than a year already. But if that so I don’t think all RM casts are aware of it. Maybe just HH and thats it.

 

Reason is because they would have to think of the consequences of them breaking up, so it’d be awkward to the whole team and will affect the team dynamics if all of them know. Same concept can be applied to the whole industry. If they were to reveal their relationship and things go south, it will jeopardise so many things and affect so many people and projects, so the only way for them to go public is to reveal it the same day they announce their marriage. Lol