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I've been looking forward to this. Where can we watch it?

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On 5/25/2021 at 1:28 AM, Kdramaenthusiast 101 said:

Ahhhh I need to know your thoughts on episode 7 bestie >.< bc wtffffff

Did episode 8 make episode 7 seem less wtfffff? What are you thoughts on 7 and 8? I haven't seen the very end of 8 yet as the subtitles are not quite done, but I enjoyed the good communication between MH and SR and SR and HT. I'm so glad MH and SR mended their relationship. I didn't think they'd let it go so easily. I'm also really glad that SR and HT recovered at least some of their feistiness so that they can fight against their fathers' crap. 

 

Fathers are really villified in this show. SR's father is self-centred and weak. HT's father is pure evil, and MH's father just keeps suffering. I was surprised at MH's reaction to her father when she went home after the kidnapping. I understand how freaked out she was and how sorely disappointed about not getting to go abroad, but I thought this would be the moment when things finally made sense to her -- her grandmother's constant rants about the father being innocent and people coming to take him away; her father's struggles to provide for his family; and his advice to live quietly as protection. I thought, having just been reminded of how ruthless and powerful Hwang Ki Nam is, that she would assume her father's conviction was either false or unjust and be concerned about how much Hwang Ki Nam had made him suffer. I thought she might even look to her dad for comfort in their shared suffering or ask forgiveness for her treatment of him. Instead, she screamed at him about her own suffering and how it was all his fault. This seemed really unfair and also out of character for her. I hope they get a chance to reconcile. 

 

I also wonder what MH's father and Hwang Ki Nam's relationship is. The flashbacks in ep. 7 made me think that they might have been friends growing up. MH's father seemed really surprised that HKN would think him capable of the charges against him. Maybe it's just that they knew each other from growing up in the same place rather than that they were close. 

 

At least Jin Ah's father, and Jin Ah herself, are hilarious, without interrupting the flow of the story. (Her aegyo in the cafe, a few episodes ago, is one of my favourite scenes.) I also thought Hee Tae's questioning of himself was hilarious. So often, male leads go charging off like knights in shining armour, and it's the audience that might be asking why he's going where he's going and isn't it a bit much since he hardly knows the FL. (Though we still love that they do it.:)) To have Hee Tae asking himself, "Why am I going to her hometown just because she isn't responding? I know it seems a bit creepy..." was brilliant. I like that there's room for these comedic moments, though I'm not sure how much longer there will be.

 

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19 hours ago, Kdramaenthusiast 101 said:

Ahh thanks for replying. We still have 6 more episodes. And we will see each of the character arcs develop a bit better. 
 

 

 

Yes. I think a lot will happen. It seems like there's still so much to explore; I can't believe it's already half over.

 

19 hours ago, Kdramaenthusiast 101 said:

 

I think we can both agree, both girls have very distinct charms and goals of their own and we would hate it be ruined by a love triangle. 
 

 

Yes, and yes! (Or a love square.:))

 

19 hours ago, Kdramaenthusiast 101 said:

 

And yeah, this was my first time on a forum as well. Hope to see you here more often haha 

Cool! Yup, "see" you soon, I'm sure.:)

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I agree that GY is a terrible journalist!:) She never seems to do any research and constantly jumps to conclusions. I laughed when WJ pointed that out and told her never to work as a journalist again. 

 

I like her character, though. She's a series of contrasts that make her relatable -- blunt and talkative but also hesitant and vulnerable, hapless but sensible, optimistic but irritable, etc. I like that she gets angry without screaming and flailing around the way some heroines do. I think the way she acts with the cameras on is especially relatable. She doesn't know what's expected of her or how production intend to portray things, let alone how to play the showbiz game. As someone pointed out, though, she has now realized quite a few times that WJ is saying and doing whatever will make him look good. Maybe she could start doing the same for herself, which might also show that he's fake, which is what she supposedly wants to expose.

 

How does the movie compare to the series?

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On 5/15/2021 at 11:10 AM, Shari said:

 

 

As for JJ & IH relationship, don’t see any chemistry at all between them. Their relationship just seems to be one of hate, jealousy and both using each other for ulterior motives. They both seem so obsessed with WJ and blame him for how they are now. JJ acts like a spoiled attention seeking brat who wants to steal all the shiny toys away from WJ and is afraid of losing to him. So now he is setting his sights on GY hopefully, she doesn’t fall for his devious ploy. I don’t know why but just looking at IH face annoys me to the core. Maybe it’s the role she has been given but she just seem to always have a sour, crying face and defeated posture going around 24/7.

 

On a happy note, I was delighted to see Sung Hoon in this drama as I always find him so funny & amusing (not to mention his attractive swimmer abs lol). Although, I must say I am not accustomed seeing him in any role other than main lead position, so it would be interesting seeing him in a supporting cast role.

JJ is abusive and controlling. I really hope she doesn't stay with him. Episode 7 suggested that she was starting to stand up to him a tiny bit.

 

I love Sung Hoon, too! His cameo here was a nice surprise!:)

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14 hours ago, Kdramaenthusiast 101 said:

 

The way you explained it, to me you framed it almost as if MH gains a lot by being SR’s friend and thus she is only her friend as an opportunist. She gets “expensive” gifts. She gets to eat with them, etc. It’s almost as if MH should be honored to be with SR. MH never flexed anything she “gained” from SR. Wealth? Materialistic goods? Nothing. Her focus was always work hard, and get herself out of the cycle of poverty. BUILD HERSELF. She wasn’t the happiest at her job actually. She didn’t feel respected there and she overworked herself. I don’t think it was the best quality of life for her either. You said something along the lines where MH didn’t involve SR in her family as much. MH’s family relationship is strained. And as you can see SR briefly mentioned her Little brother when she referred to him “you still need to take care of that kid” . Does SR ask about her family as much? No. for people like MH who did not come from a family of privilege, sometimes you have to do things like go on a fake date for you friend to get plane money fare in order to get an education. That doesn’t make her an opportunist....
 

 

I didn't phrase what I meant very well in saying that the relationship seems one-sided in MH's favour. I don't think she's an opportunist. She's not malicious or greedy, and you're right that her financial situation and family dynamic make her unable to give to SR materially or involve her in her family in the same way. What I wanted to point out was that, from what we've seen, SR takes the iniative in the relationship -- offering to help MH, inviting her over, etc. We don't see the same initiative from MH, which goes against the episode 6 assertion that she always puts others first. Maybe we're meant to assume that MH has SR to her boarding house for noodles all the time or asks her to the orphanage or the amusement park the way she did with HT. After all, they have been friends for a long time, and we've only seen a small part of that.

 

14 hours ago, Kdramaenthusiast 101 said:

MH isn’t Saint like lol. Her character is actually quite ordinary and representative of your average working woman, who doesn’t come from a background of money and yet have great ambitions.
 

 

This is my point. Until the last couple of episodes, she has not been written as a saint but as a realistic, well-rounded, flawed character. This is what I like about her. What I don't like is the writers suddenly implying, and then stating outright, that she's actually sweet and selfless all the time. I feel they're using this assertion to justify her dating HT, even though it's not true and doesn't justify it, in my opinion.

 

BTW, thank you for dissecting my rant.:) I just discovered Soompi had forums, and it's nice to be able to discuss dramas. My friends and family haven't (yet?:)) gotten into kdramas, so I don't know anyone willing to talk about them.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, rolisrntex said:

 

Except SR never stands up and takes responsibility and hides behind daddy's money. When asked directly by the two father's if she knew about MH and TH's relationship what was her answer? Yeah. She's a saint.

 

Yes, she hid behind her father's money in the poster case, but Myeong Hee would have been punished regardless as she was involved. Now, she's not hiding. Her wealth doesn't exempt her from arrest and interrogation, and, when she was released early, she begged to have her friends released also or to be thrown back in jail with them. When she was interrogated, she didn't even tell her father, let alone ask for his help. As for lying about HT and MH, I thought she was doing that to protect MH as she knew Hwang Ki Nam would go after her. She didn't realize that he already knew.

1 hour ago, rolisrntex said:

 

She only became interested in getting engaged to TH when her family's fortune became threatened. She doesn't love him. Heck she doesn't even like him. She's only in it for personal gain at the expense of others.

She still isn't interested in getting engaged; she's doing it to save the family business. This isn't personal gain as she will be considered part of Hee Tae's family, not her own. What else could she gain? Supportive in-laws? Nope. A loving husband? Nope. Social standing? Nope. Hee Tae's family is looked down upon, which is why his father is trying to gain prestige by allying himself with Soo Ryun's family. I'm not seeing any personal gain here, only unhappiness for her.

 

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I was enjoying that the main characters all seemed interesting and complex, but episodes 5 and 6 seemed to be trying to reduce the female leads to one dimension -- saintly MH vs. spoilt SR. This is annoying in itself, but it also totally doesn't fit the storyline so far.

 

We're told that MH has been selfless her whole life, but how? Her day-to-day behaviour is normal, decent-person stuff -- helping her colleagues, having a caring relationship with her brother, sending some of her earnings home, working hard at a job she chose, enjoys and is good at. Meanwhile, her relationship with her father is totally self-centred. What her grandmother has said suggests that MH's father had his own brush with the authorities a long time ago, an experience so negative that it traumatized his mother and probably gave him his limp. He could have been a star runner but was forced to eke out a living at a watch repair stall. After the poster incident, when he told MH to say yes to eveything she was accused of and to live quietly afterward, he seemed to be trying to protect her based on his own experience. Yet, MH has no compassion for him. She either ignores him or treats him like dirt. She's also planning to leave the country forever without even telling him. As for the poster incident itself, MH didn't offer to take the blame in SR's place; she was punished for her own involvement. Yes, the punishment was harsh, and, yes, SR should have been punished too. However, the tactics of the authorities and the influence of SR's father are not SR's fault, though MH has been blaming her for years. Not selfless. Her friendship with SR isn't selfless either. If anything, it's one-sided in MH's favour. SR and Soo Chan treat MH like one of the family. She eats with them, is included in family events, receives gifts, borrows expensive items, uses SC's influence to get her passport expedited, etc. In return, she never invites SR over, takes no iniative to spend time with her and gives her nothing (though she offers to once.) As for helping her, she agrees to go on one date for a $900 plane ticket, which SR suggests because MH won't accept the plane ticket as a gift. Hardly a raw deal for MH. When SR begs her, in tears, she also agrees to persuade HT to accept the engagement, realizing that her many-year relationship with her best friend might be slightly more important than her feelings for a guy she just met and is leaving forever in three weeks. Well, she realizes this for about two seconds, before deciding to hurt and endanger everyone for the sake of a few dates. Whoa, what a saint.:(

 

Conversely, how is SR a princess, expecting everyone to dance to her tune? No one is dancing to her tune. Her political activies aren't for her benefit since her family already has money and influence. She is incurring her father's disapproval, associating with people who use her for her father's resources then badmouth her behind her back, and risking her life for society's benefit. The engagement is also not for her own sake. How could she be happy, or even safe, married into a disfunctional family, with a greedy, dangerous, amoral father in law and a husband who makes no effort to get along with her and is in love with her best friend? Yet, she agrees for her family, who neither notice nor care how miserable she is. Even her best friend decides that helping the family who considers her one of them is less important than a bit of fun. But SR is the selfish one. Right....