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  1. Regarding Songhwa's first love, here is her character description:

     

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    No love can win against Song Hwa wishes to save the patients’ life. Of course she had a first love. At the age of 20 years-old, that time when the youth of the year burned Song Hwa with love. After that, she has no particular memory about dating or sad farewell.Song Hwa life hospital, patient and thesis! With these 3, her life is perfect.


    From these lines, we can assume that eventhough Songhwa is comfortable with her single life and seems already moved on from her first love, but deep inside she still treasure "her first love" as precious memory & unforgettable experience.

    Now, let's take a look the theory about Jeongwon was Songhwa's first love. If it is true, then we can assume that it is Songhwa's one-side love, because based on Jeongwon's arc in Season 1, no girl in his 20s-40s that can shake off his dream of being priest until he met Gyeowool. If Shin-Lee want to go to this direction, what is the narrative purpose that Shin-Lee want to tell (especially since both Jeongwon & Gyeowool already reciprocated their feelings)? Does this also make Songhwa's character becomes a bit pitiful, because she can't forget her one-side love in 20 years? I doubt Shin-Lee will turn this route for a wonderful & independent character like Songhwa.

     

    At least if Ikjun was Songhwa's first love, we can understand why Songhwa treasure it as her precious memory because it seems both of them were already in "some" status before Ikjun cancelled his confession to Songhwa in their 20s. It seems both Songhwa & Ikjun acknowledged their feelings for each other in the past, but the timing was not on their side (Ikjun give up for the sake of his friendship with Seokhyung), which made their love didn't have chance to blossom and both of them decided to stay as best friends. And now in their 40s, Ikjun got his 2nd chance to confess his love for Songhwa, though I'm not sure if Songhwa still has the same feeling for Ikjun, but at least we can see the narrative purpose of their lovelines. Whatever the ending (whether they become a couple or stay as best friends),  I can (kind of) capture the message that Shin-Lee want to show about their love story. 

    Side Note: 
    This is just merely my interpretation as viewer and I can be wrong because only Shin-Lee know what the story direction for Season 2 :)
     

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  2. 3 hours ago, Sorary said:

    i think it more like we had more flashback...like song hwa pov, what make seok hyung felt so sory towards his ex,jung wan pov that he really had intrest with ik sun but since then they meet at younger timer he might not consider her as partner like presents day...but still i think the season will still focus on the present day

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    afterall we still need to see either jae hak and seok min pass the board exam and i still want to see jae hak wife and i part of minority who love to see jae hak and jung wan together

     

    I agree with you. Surely I guess Season 2 will show some flashback as the background plot & characters' POV, but the main focus will still be in present timeline (2020/2021). Why did the writer bother to show cliffhanger in Season 1 (Junwan's present to Iksun is returned, Songhwa's answer for Ikjun's confession & Seokhyung hanging-feeling to his ex-wife), if the writer won't answer it on next season?

    If Season 2 show all story set in 1999, then the title should be changed to Reply 1999, instead of Hospital Playlist :sweatingbullets:

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  3. 55 minutes ago, kokodus said:

    My guess is that Jeong won already knows about Songhwa and IkJun's past. Even in 10th ep during the cigarette convo, when Ikjun said, "Don't end up like me and regret it later" Jeong won looked up like he knew exactly what he was talking about. But the only thing that bothers me is that Jeong won is the one who set up IkJun's ex wife with him, so if he knew about them, shouldn't he try to matchmake their two friends together. LOL. Maybe he only knew one side of the story...?! 

     

    Well, my guess the reason is:
    1. Jeongwon only knew one side story, e.g: Ikjun had crush to Songhwa or Songhwa had crush to Ikjun. He thought it was just one side love.
     

    2. Or Jeongwon knew that both of them had crush to each other (and he also knew that Seokhyung involved in this triangle love), but Jeongwon thought that Ikjun & Songhwa already moved on. Like Dr. Bong said, Ikjun always dated in colleges, and Songhwa also dated her senior. Based on Jeongwon’s personality, eventhough he can sense something, he is not a type that want to interfere his friends’ privacy unless his friends told him directly (different with Ikjun who is also smart in sensing something and willing to be the matchmaker :lol:).

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  4. 2 hours ago, Jules said:

    This is true. For anyone else in the group to be involved in any way romantically with SHwa would just loose its meaning. As it is, three of the 5 were in a triangle that cost 2 of them 20 years loss of love together. To introduce Jwon or Jwan as another love interest of SHwa would be ridiculous. It will diminish the characters of both Jwan and Jwon. It may also cause conflict between the group that would probably be irreparable. Because if Jwan is to be with SHwa, that would mean he ends it with IkSun. That wouldn't go over well with IkJun. Both sister and the woman he loves are being targeted by his best friend. Or if its JWon, it would still wont go over well with IkJun seeing as he considers himself responsible in GU love life. It would also paint both Jwan and Jwon(whoever it will be) as jerks. And Yulje hospital would be the most awkward place to be at. The L5 relationship is too beautiful for that.

     

    So, as per the interview Shin PD did, I think he will stick with the IkJun-SongHwa loveline, he will just be handling it as how 40 year olds handle new relationships. And i remember reading that specifically said there wont be any messy relationship. Or something to that effect.


    Yes! I can accept the possibility of Junwan/Jeongwon involve romantically with Seonghwa, if the stories of Junwan-Iksun & Jeongwon-Gyeowool are just one side love. But in Season 1, we have seen that both couples reciprocated their feeling of each other, so I don't see any narrative purpose if the writer will turn 180 degrees by making Songhwa involve with square-pentagon love with Junwan/Jeongwon. It will be just a mess and damage the characters of Junwan/Jeongwon. 
     

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  5. I think after Ep 12, it’s pretty clear that Ikjun is Songhwa’s first love, because she firmly rejected (without hesitation) both Seokhyung & Chihong’s confession, but she did not give the answer yet for Ikjun’s confession even though he had confessed three times.
    I guess the revelation of Songhwa’s POV (probably flashback) will be about why she didn’t act to show her crush to Ikjun, because it’s hard to believe that neither one of them try to confess their feelings in 20 years. Well, it’s understandable that Ikjun decided to not confess to Songhwa 20 years ago for the sake of his friendship with Seokhyung, but why did Songhwa never try to confess her feeling towards Ikjun. If we judge Songhwa’s personality (She will do anything to get what she wants), it’s questionable why she never try to confess her feeling. If the reason because Ikjun was married, well based on Uju’s age, it seems that Ikjun was married in his 30s, so what happened in their 20s-30s.

    And as much I want Iksong to sail soon, I guess they will not happen until Season 3 (because their relationship is the most complicated). I think Season 2 will focus on Seokhyung-Minha and development of Jeongwon-Gyeowool & Junwan-Iksun, and Season 3 will focus on Songhwa-Ikjun.

    PS: IMO, The beautiful platonic relationship between Songhwa & Jeongwon is too precious to be romanticized and I think writer will not waste it for the sake of triangle love. :)

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  6. The thing I hope to see in Season 2 (mostly about lovelines):

    1. Songhwa's POV!
    What is her answer for Ikjun's confession? I hope the writer won't drag it too long because IJ already confessed 3 times. Of course I will be happy if Shwa reciprocate IJ's feeling, but if writer choose different route: like Shwa do not have feeling (anymore) for IJ, I hope it will be revealed in S2 because I don't think my heart can handle seeing IJ's one side love for 3 season. And I prefer seeing character development than guessing what's in Shwa's mind :sweatingbullets:.
    I'm also curios why Shwa never want to get married. It's understandable for an independent & successful woman like Shwa prefer the single life, but I hope the writer can show a glimpse of Shwa's view about love.
     

    2. The dynamic of Lacking 5 after Shwa move to Sokcho.
    I know Shwa can visit Seoul every weekend, but I still think Shwa's absence will affect the dynamic of Lacking 5 (especially IJ), because she is their emotional pillar. I also want to see development of Shwa's arc. She is perfect in all aspect, but actually her perfection can become her weakness, as example she never want asking out for help. In Ep 2 (Kalguksu scene), Jeongwon have to ask Shwa what's that bothering her mind and she still didn't want to share it until Junwan told Jeongwon that Shwa worried about her patient's operation. In Ep 6 (cancer diagnosis), Shwa don't want sharing her worries to her friends until IJ came up showing support by accompanying her in waiting of her diagnosis result. So I hope in Season 2, we can see Shwa more open up to her friends, because I'm sure all of her friends (especially IJ) will give emotional support to her just like what she did for them.
     

    3. Seokhyung-Minha's development.
    Aahhh... My fav OTP. I seldom talk about them because they barely have scenes together (justice for our Bear-Bear Couple :lol:).
    I love their growth relationship as mentor-mentee (and potential lover), so I'm fine will all possibilities. I understand why SH rejected MH, because right now SH's mind is full of with his family's problem. And also there will be possibility in S2 that her ex-wife will return in SH's life. If SH-MH will be endgame, I hope writer show first how SH resolve his hanging issue with his ex-wife (like why he always feel sorry towards his ex-wife), before he open up his feeling for MH.

     

    4. Jeongwon-Gyeowool's blossoming love.
    I know they are an innocent couple, but I hope writer still can show the mature vibe in their dating relationship, just like she did with Junwan-Iksun, because I can't picture the 40 y/o man with 29 y/o woman acted lovey-dovey like teenage couple :sweatingbullets: (sorry, no offense).
    Please also show more of Jeongwon's POV & love about Gyeowool :wub:.

     

    5. Junwan-Iksun's LDR
    I believe they can overcome the shortcoming because so far Junwan excelled in handling his r/s with Iksun in a very mature way.
    But I hope writer can show more of Iksun's POV, because so far it's only Junwan that seems do all his best & pour of all his love to maintain his stable r/s with Iksun. Iksun still have doubt that their r/s will not work (because of her trauma), so I hope in S2 writer can show more about Iksun's effort in maintain their relationship :).|

    As for medical stories, I am fully satisfied in Season 1 with how the writer can show the relatable human side of doctors life and create the touching & heartwarming stories of their patients, so I believe the writer can continue doing her amazing writing in Season 2 :).

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  7. 1 hour ago, __jesse said:

    first love was never a criterion for endgame in Shin-Lee’s dramas.

    Nah... Lee-Shin duo indeed have a thing about first love because all their dramas have first love theme :sweatingbullets: It just depend on which first love is success, the guy or girl side.

    Reference to their previous work:

    Reply 1997

    Siwon is Yoonjae's first love. 

    Yoojung had a crush to Yoonjae, but she end up with Hakchan (Yoojung is Hakchan's first love). 

     

    Reply 1994

    Trash is Najung's first love. 

    Samcheonpo & Yoonjin are first love of each other. 

     

    Reply 1988

    Deoksun is Taek's first love. 

    Bora is Sunwoo's first love. 

    Jungbong & Miok are first love of each other. 

     

    I also read that Prison Playbook has first love theme for the main couple. So yeah... The first love theme is indeed signature of Lee-Shin duo :lol:

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  8. 56 minutes ago, Ketu R said:

    Even I have to admit the turnaround for andrea was a little abrupt for me. While I support winter garden wholeheartedly I felt there could have been a little more build up and more explanation. Also I would have liked to see more conversation between the two of them than just a kiss as they hardly spoke much before. While I know they will be a great couple I just wish we had been given a better start of their romance with a proper build up. 

    I think they DO have more conversations in off scene, because it will be impossible for Jeongwon to let Gyeowool do her first surgery on his patient if they interactions are just "annyeong haseyo" :sweatingbullets:.

    Like I said, this is writer's style to make plot jump and off-scene (subtle)  developments for the sake of surprise element, so it's understandable that some viewers felt the flow is not too smooth and a bit abrupt, because viewers only see what shown on scenes. I shared the same sentiment about Junwan-Iksun build-up romance. But since this is just a little flaw of the writing/directing, I can put it aside :).

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  9. 1 hour ago, ktcjdrama said:

    But ep.11 is still in October if I remembered correctly. 2 months is plenty of time to reconsider his next step. This drama does the time jump a lot without clearly giving the time stamp. Anyway, his hesitation has been shown since the very beginning of the drama. If he was so certain about it, he wouldn't have waited so long and keep postponing and postponing going to the seminary.

    Yes, I think this is my personal big issue with this drama. The unclear time set sometimes make the plot did not flow smoothly and I, as viewer, feel a bit hard to connect with the plot in narrative way (like Iksun's discharged after being hospitalized and Ikjun's divorce). But I respect this writer's style, and since she has created many amazing storylines and relatable characters in this drama, I can disregard this flaw :).

     

     

    1 hour ago, nrllee said:


    :lol: I am still quietly paddling my FlowerGarden canoe.  I have replied to you in a message.

    Personally, I think it will be a jerk move for Jeongwon's character and cruel treatment for Gyeowool's character, if in next season the writer make Jeongwon's heart sway to another girl, e.g: Songhwa.

    I can understand why some fans ship Flower Garden because both Jeongwon & Songhwa have many similarities in personalities and they have the unspoken strong bond. But I think the writer want to portray their relationship in realistic way (like Junwan said, not all man-woman relationship are viewed as romantic way), and I love how the writer portrayed the beautiful of their pure platonic dynamic. The conversation between Jeongwon & Songhwa in Ep 12 is very beautiful and heartwarming that I can feel their precious friendship. But I fully respect your different opinion, because after all this is just drama, and we have freedom to interpret the story in different view :).

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  10. 9 hours ago, kokodus said:

    I think he chose to give up priesthood mainly because of his little patients. He teared up two times in today's ep when a patient's mother told him how good of a doctor he is. I think that's the main push for his decision. You know how in the first ep when he was drinking with his brother every year, one year he wants to quit because his patients died, then the next year they showed how happy he was when a patient recovered and winked at him. And he declared that it's the most happiest day of his life. I think this is one of the good year for him where he saved many patients and he also found the love of his life. Up until the beginning of this ep he had all those religious stuffs in his drawer. So it's not ONLY because of Gyeo ul, but she also played a part. His conversation with Songhwa was so beautiful. When she said he is someone who gets happy seeing others happy. How true....

    Yes, I agree with you. But I still feel it a bit rushed because until Ep 11 they showed Jeongwon still insisted to resign from his job and go to seminary. The flow will be more smooth & satisfying if they show the closure of his arc in 2 episode (Ep 11-12). But I think it's writer's style to make the plot jump here & there as a surprise element and sacrifice the character's clear development (like what she did for Junwan-Iksun).

    I see a post here asking how did Songhwa know about Jeongwon's feeling to Gyeowool. Well, maybe Jeongwon share to Songhwa about his feeling, or maybe Songhwa know only by seeing Jeongwon's behaviour towards Gyeowool. Like I said before, Songhwa-Jeongwon have the deep mutual understanding in unspoken word, so I will not surprised if Songhwa can see Jeongwon's true feeling for Gyeowool. This is also make me suspect that Jeongwon knew the past history about Ikjun-Songhwa, and maybe in Season 2, it will be Jeongwon's role to help his two best friends finding their true love.

    Anyway, I see spoiler Ep 12 and I still feel uncomfortable with Chihong's behaviour towards Songhwa. I love Chihong because he is a nice guy, but I hope the writer will not mistreat his character for the sake of triangle love like what he did to Chilbong (Reply 1994). I was a Chilbong shipper, but I don't agree how the writer developed Chilbong's character as the lonely guy who did not understand the meaning of "rejection", and still pursuing his love to Najung for 6 YEARS, eventhough Najung clearly draw a line from the start, and always show uncomfortable reaction for Chilbong's confession. I hope the writer show better development for Chihong's character in Season 2, and will not drag his unrequited love.

    As for Songhwa, this episode proved that Songhwa is the most independent among Lacking 5 and she is indeed the emotional pillar of this group. No wonder all of her best friends being overprotective towards her. I am curious how the writer develop Songhwa's character, because so far she always seems can handle her own worries & struggle. Even in Ep 6 of her breast cancer diagnosis, it showed that she can overcome her own scare, and when Ikjun come to support her by saying he will save Songhwa (if she has cancer), Songhwa still viewed Ikjun's word in doctor's view, not romantic view.
    So I wonder how the writer show the romance arc in Songhwa's side, and I guess we will find the answer in Season 2. So Happy Waiting :)
     

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  11. WOW!!! Mama Rosa should throw a big party for Gyeowool!! She save her son from being a priest :lol: Though, an honest opinion, I felt a bit disappointed how the writer wrap up Jeongwon's priest arc. Somehow, it felt a bit rushed. As much I love WinterGarden, I prefer Jeongwon choose to stay not only because of Gyeowool, but also because he realized his true dream is a doctor. But it's okay that Lee Writer chose this route, at least she gave us the surprise gift of kissing scene :wub: *I really didn't expect that!!!*

    I also love the friendship dynamic of Songhwa-Jeongwon. From the start, I already have feeling that both of them have the deepest mutual understanding, and it is proven in this episode. They didn't need to speak out too much, but they can fully understand for each of their feeling & problem. *Actually their dynamic kinda remind me with Harry-Hermione from Harry Potter movie* (Yes. I am a Potterhead, LOL). I love how Songhwa support whatever Jeongwon's decision and she secretly support his love to Gyeowool :D And this makes me guess that maybe Jeongwon also know about complex relationship of Ikjun & Songhwa in the past. *Okay Jeongwon! It's time for you to help Ikjun getting Songhwa's heart back. You owned Ikjun a big debt :lol:*.

    Anyway, I didn't watch full episode yet, can anyone here please give spoiler whether Iksun really go to England or not?

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  12. After rewatching Ep 11, I think both Jeongwon & Songhwa are look alike in facing the problems. Both of them choose to follow their minds rather than their hearts. Jeongwon choose to go to priesthood to escape the pain of his job as doctor (I know the priesthood is his childhood dream, but I personally think it's more like his way to escape the pain of his inner struggle as doctor).
    Meanwhile Songhwa choose to move to Sokcho for refreshment (and maybe sort out her feeling from the awkwardness of triangle love). Both of them also decided in their own without discussing with their friends first. Even Jeongwon until now did not tell yet to his friends about his priesthood plan :sweatingbullets: (I'm still LOL-ing when Jeongwon told that Songhwa can divide to Seoul-Sokcho for band practice. Like.... Err... What about you, Jeongwon? You will leave on December! :lol:).

    I think this is the reason why both characters are the hardest to read, because they like to do things in their own.
    I wonder how the writer will show the character development of each of them. 

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  13. 1 hour ago, aliciavikanderrr said:

    Hi, all! After 11 episodes, I keep wondering 3 things:
    1. who’s the real Songhwa’s first love? If I am not mistaken, there is no scene that tell us “this is her first love”
    2. who’s Jeongwon’s love in his 20s?
    3. why Jeongwon triggered Seokhyung’s jealousy?

    I am sorry I skip reading lots of pages in this thread. I don’t know if one of you may answer this. Yes, all of your theories are mind-blown. But next week is the last episode, I hope PD&writer make it clear about those 3 :) 
     

    As far as I know, until Ep 11 none of these 3 questions are answered yet. There are some hints that Ikjun was Songhwa's first love, but it's not clear as we don't get yet the flashback from Songhwa's POV.
    IMO, rather than curious of who is whose first love, it's more important to know how their feeling are right now. Because this drama is different from Reply series (sorry, I have to compare it again). In Reply series, the present timeline are set up as fix story (the ending), and we are brought to their past timeline to learn the growth journey of how they become a couple.
    But in Hospital Playlist, the present timeline is continuing, and the flashback were established as the background story of Lacking 5's arcs. Whatever happens in the past, it does not truly matter if in the present, their hearts are changed.
    Right now, I can't see Songhwa will end up with Ikjun (or one of Lacking 5), because until Ep 11, I saw her interaction with them are pure platonic. She treats all of them as best friends and she is comfortable with this dynamic. Actually I even can't picture Songhwa has any romance feeling right now :sweatingbullets:, because her character seems too independent, and she enjoys being single (she even decided to move to Sokcho in her own without discussing with Lacking 5 first).
    |f she really end up with Ikjun, I think their loveline will have a long journey to break up the friendship zone first :)

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  14. This episode solidly placed Junwan as my number 1 fav character, and Junwan-Jaehak is my ultimate OTP :lol: (Sorry Iksun, but Jaehak win an inch more in my heart, LOL).

     

    As for Songhwa, I feel pity for her. I share the same sentiments with some posters here. I, as viewer, feel so uncomfortable watching the triangle love tension in this episode, can you imagine how Songhwa feel? Both guys are throwing confession here & there, but no one asking how is Songhwa true feeling. No wonder she decided to move to Sokcho.

    As much as I love Iksong couple (my heart breaks seeing Ikjun singing in karaoke room :tears:), I want to see Songhwa firstly sort out her feeling, because 20 years is not a short time, there is a probability her feeling is faded way :(

    Since only 1 episode left, I am sure they will leave us with an open ending (probably cliffhanger) for all the OTPs :)

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  15. Reading all theories here always amuse me, because seeing how much all the efforts to prove your ships :lol: I even didn't notice those little details when watching this drama :sweatingbullets:

    I think this is indeed the charm of Lee-Shin duo, even if you try to not compare HP with their previous works (a.k.a Reply series) but in the end you are still searching the clues because this duo are so meticulous in their works.

    Anyway, keep the good works, guys (and please stay civil). Love some theories here that give me more insightful views in understanding the characters in this drama :)

     

    PS: It's Thursday! It's HP's time :wub:

     

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  16. 29 minutes ago, DBSKyoochun said:

    The contrast between his conversation with his brother and Ep 10 nagging scenes is evident. His oldest brother lets him rant about his frustrations by pretending to gobble his food. Then after Jeongwon is done, he gives his opinion. That is why Jeongwon follows his advice.

    Yes, this is also the reason why he keeps so many secret and his character seems like a closed book. I personally think his internal conflict is not just priesthood vs romance. It's more complicated than that (Ep 1 actually already give the clear background story of Jeongwon's internal struggle feeling). This is why I feel his priesthood issue will not be solved in last 2 episode.

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  17. 53 minutes ago, triplem said:

    Awww...i came on board for JKH ( and YYS ) primarily and I can tell you if there's one thing that JKH can play to perfection is the prickly tsundere guy with a heart of gold.


    JKH is brilliant in portraying Junwan's character, that whenever I see him now I always picture him as Junwan, LOL.
    At first, we thought Junwan's character is the Jerk one (like Dr. Bong said), but I think he is the most mature among the Lacking 5 (following with Seokhyung). I can't wait to see development between Junwan-Iksun & Seokhyung-Minha (I think these 2 OTPs are the safest to ship LOL).

     

    22 minutes ago, angelguccio said:

    Suddenly I think if it has been a long time maybe it will become a reason why he wants to become a priest (until now become stronger than before) and not dating anyone...because of his personality in my opinion he is like introvert about his private life and don't want everyone (especialy his closest people) know and become sad

     

    Maybe this is out of this drama...I love YYS in every drama and movie that he played especialy Beauty Inside...event though he only appear in last scene but I love YYSxHan Hyo Joo so I have a hope that Han Hyo Joo is JWon's lover and become endgame....just my thought if it is in drama I like Flower Garden (just sharing) thank you

     

    P.S Sorry for my bad english:D

    I don't know because so far his illness is just theory.
    I can't give clear opinion about Jeongwon because so far his character is the hardest one to read (along with Songhwa). It doesn't help that the writer hid these two POVs in the scene that need their reaction, e.g. 1. When Ikjun ask Jeongwon if he really likes Gyeowool, 2. When Ikjun's indirect confession to Songhwa (if only one of them can open their mouth just for once, LOL).

    I also read Flower Garden theory and I can see the possibility, but since until Ep 10 the established loveline are Ikjun-Songhwa-Chihong and Jeongwon-Gyeowool, I root for IJ-SHwa & JW-GW. I can see JW start to feel interest with GW, but I am not sure if it's enough to hinder him from going to Priesthood (even his mom's begging cannot stop him).
    For Jeongwon's arc, the first thing that I am looking for how the writer will handle his priesthood issue before moving up to his romance arc. This is the development that I prefer to see, but I am open up with all possibilities :)

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  18. 45 minutes ago, angelguccio said:

    His headache make me worried so much....I hope it's not serious illness or if it's serious illness then it will be one of the problem that will appear in season 2

    Yes, I am worried too. Because it's different with Songhwa's breast cancer case. They solve Songhwa's issue illness right in the next episode, but with Jeongwon, they keep dragging it by showing his frequent headaches. I also noticed that Jeongwon's make up in this drama keep getting paler (I don't know if this is intentional or not), it's like his face always showed tired or exhausted. In Ep 10, you can see Jeongwon's face pale in the scene when he took his medicine, and when he chatted with Junwan in his car.

    I also read some theories from YYS international fansite on twitter about the hints that foreshadowing Jeongwon's illness.
    Eventhough I know this writer never make the tragic illness issue in her previous dramas, I still have my worry.
    Let's just cross our fingers this is just false alarm :)

     

    34 minutes ago, standingtallyy said:

    Let’s talk about Jun Wan. He looked really cool and sexy in bass guitar, don’t you think?  For some reason, in the latest episode he really caught my attention during their band performance. Yet...did anyone else noticed how he retrieved the tangerine (and put it in his pocket) he gave to Chi Hong after finding out he talks to Ik Son long and late? :D:D. Cute! 

    Junwan is my most fav character so far. I think his character got the most established development in this season. At first he is such a typical tsundere guy in K-Dramaland, but it turn out he wears his heart in his sleeves. I love the dynamic between Junwan and Jaehak, and all Junwan's arc with his patients has the most touching moments for me.
    At first, I'm not too invested about his loveline with Iksun, but in Ep 10, I can see new side of their relationship. I love how Junwan handle his relationship issue with Iksun, it gives the mature & stable vibe (no wonder Iksun can fall in love with him, LOL).
    I love all Lacking 5 with all my heart, but so far Junwan is in position 1 at my heart with his wonderful character's growth :)

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  19. 16 minutes ago, ryanallright said:

     

    Well your theory is possible, since we know there is a season 2 and season 1 will end with open ending. We could see more of this headache occurring.

     

    I think if the illness plot is used, maybe it is not life threatening but serious enough to hinder his plan. But I think to prevent him from traveling, the use of Covid-19 situation will be more valid.

     

    Since all five will return for season 2, i doubt YYS will appear as cameo which also means unlikely to go Italy.

     

    Yes, like DramaGeek said, Jeongwon is ready to transition to priesthood, so I think the most logic reason that hinder his plan temporarily at this point is the God's fate which is like serious illness (but not life threatening) or Covid-19.
    I think Jeongwon still has a long way to go to realize that priesthood is not his fate, and I am not sure this issue can be solved in the last 2 episode in this season.

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  20. 31 minutes ago, ryanallright said:

    With the theory of Flower Garden surfacing now, what do you all think of the lie that JWon had said.

     

    Remembering that he said sometime he does lie, so which is a lie?

     

    • His headache is mild and nothing serious.
    • He telling Rosa that it is not Songhwa
    • He is not interested in Dr Jang

     

    My biggest fear is the option 1. The frequent headaches that showed so far is too hard to only take it slightly (judging this writer is so detail in creating all of little gestures).
    I am worried that writer will use this illness plot to prevent Jeongwon (temporarily) to go to seminary.
    I have a feeling the writer will drag this priesthood thing until season 2.

  21. 3 hours ago, habromanic said:

    Anyway, can't help but comment with the lazy writing slander of Lee. :sweatingbullets: That's such an old tale. :sweatingbullets: It's a classic Shin-Lee slander. I just feel like it's an insult to their hardwork because the only facet that the ones who usually calls them out for that is the narrative of romance. There's so much to their stories than that. Let's stay chill with the shipping as much as we can. :) I don't really pull myself into one solid ship (although I always just hope) because I constantly remind myself that this is not my work and whatever happens was already in the cards because the writer is only bringing out the work she made for the viewers. She has her own choices and directions and I respect that. Everyone's free to like it or not though. 

    Two big thumbs up for @habromanic  Your post are always mindful and detailed without trying to bring down any characters/ships.

    I fully agree with you. i have fav ships, but I am open with all possible ships happen, because my solid ship is Lee-Shin duo. i trust their work in creating a heartwarming drama that will leave big withdrawal symptom in my heart when it ends. 

    So far they have created many precious moments in this drama (not just romance) and these moments that I will cherish for :) 

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  22. 3 hours ago, Dramageek said:

    2. Traumatic incident with kids (patient?) who made him give up photography and question his profession as pediatric doctor (wanna go back to priesthood).

    I think Jeongwon start giving up his photography hobby after he move in to Yulje. Because in Ep 1, when he announced the death of his last patient (Minyoung) at Kangwon Medical Center, you can see the camera move to shoot the wall in the back of Minyoung's bedroom, and there are photos of Jeongwon celebrating Minyoung's last birthday with her mom & nurses. 

    After that, we never saw him taking any pictures with his patient at Yulje. 

    Maybe this is also the reason why Jeongwon decided to go faster into priesthood. He can't handle anymore the burden of guilty feeling over the death of his patients (Please correct me if I'm wrong :)).

     

    Side note:

    This is also why I prefer that If Jeongwon decide to not enter priesthood, it's because his own realization. Of course his mom and his best friends can give him the advices (like what Ikjun did), but I want him to realize by his own that he is more suitable as a doctor & it's actually his true passion. This will give the meaningful impact for his character's growth. 

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  23. Wow... Seems like this forum start to getting heat. Relax guys... And please do no too harsh with Gyeowool. So far the drama has shown beautifully Gyeowool's growth as a doctor, and there are 2 episode + 2 seasons left, I am sure the writer have enough room to show new side of Gyeowool other than her loveline in next ep/next season. It's Lee Writer's style to show her character's arc by peeling off the layer of her characters one by one. And she have the ability to write the grounded development of her characters which made viewers feel relatable with her characters. So I will believe with Lee's work :)

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