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I'm back! So glad to see familiar faces/usernames still active in this forum. So many more pages. And a big thanks and lots of love to the ladies who translate and keep up with the series fan website.
One of my students did indeed do a dissertation on the international copyright infringement in Chinese entertainment industry and it led my back to this forum since this was where I first really thought about the scope of the legality and how it should/would be dealt with in a foreign law concept.
Hope everyone has been doing well!
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8 minutes ago, MayanEcho said:
BL novel author and supporters probably never expected TQ to head to the courts. The decision of the courts matter more than what they think she did.
There's no case for them if they can not present even scant evidences that what she wrote is not originally hers, or for that matter, meets the Chinese laws criteria to consider it as plagiarism.
I feel that the Chinese really engage in virtual harassment and bullying.
Look at this series and its' haters. Weibo was a hot nightmare with neutral fans literally drowned out. They produce a lot of keyboard warriors over there. I wonder if they are going to adapt any anti-bullying/harassment policies over there, or at least enforce something. SMH.
Regardless if TQ plagiarized or not, she did not deserve to be harassed the way she was. I heard that the other novel was translated and officially published in another country. Foreign policy might be in their favor to take to the courts overseas if they truly believe they were plagiarized. That's assuming TQ's work was also published in the same country. Plagiarism is about to get an international face lift if Nora Roberts wins her multinational plagiarism lawsuit.
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1 hour ago, Ninky said:
Me read both, i feel strongly there is no plagirism. She won case in court.Courts said plagiarism cannot be proven. Those accusers backed off after that.
Tang Qi said she used to just let them attack her but she said she now grew a spine and will defend all allegations legally and will sue people for defamation should they try accusing her with 0 proof.
Those idiots cleared out of her weibo finally. Now she is back focused on writing this series.
I was under the impression that the allegations of plagiarism were inconclusive at best (on a legal capacity) as the original author of the BL novel was unable to take the case to court. As BL is an illegal genre and would have essentially resulted in self-incrimination if the case went to court.
Plagiarism and copyright infringement is near impossible to prove if one side is not even allowed to present their novel as a viable piece of evidence. Keeping in mind that plagiarism is a word for word form of copying/stealing, whereas copyright infringement is taking concepts scenes and rewriting them with different characters (in this case, a heterosexual couple), paraphrasing or using synonyms, or even just changing a sequence of events/scenes (the harder to prove).
Regardless, China is probably not the best judge of plagiarism/copyright infringement as their evaluation system for "copyrighting" is rarely updated or enforced. In fact, a committee for checking plagiarism in the entertainment field was not developed until 2017. With scripts being over 60 episodes long, that is a lot of reading that one person has to do in order to compare two separate pieces of work. Let alone works of this genre, which should have way more in common regardless if it was plagiarized or not. This is based on common folklore, fantasy, myths, etc.
As I have not read the original novel in question, I cannot agree or disagree one way or the other, but to be fair, there will never be a conclusive legal decision on the matter. As an educator and a member on the Board of Academia at the university I work with, this is too complex an issue. There are about 15 different criteria that two separate pieces of work have to have in common in order to be determined as plagiarism.
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Vengo will be on Happy Camp again. No more singing please
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11 hours ago, ChibiLy said:
I just assumed DH used magic to get any items he wants, so he doesn't need money.
I assumed DH has his entire wealth hidden in his Marry Poppins magical sleeves. If you can fit your whole tea table, tea set, and daybeds, what in the world can't you fit in there?!
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Some more pretty fanart
I need to hire these talented artists to make a picture book vs. As a gift to my mother. She's having a hard time moving on, also
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5 minutes ago, MoonPrincess said:
I know this might not really related to this the PB but I couldnt find anyone talking about it.
I came upon a news that they is current work on 3L3W part 3 talks about Baizhen and ZheYan... and BaiZhen dies in this story line and ZheYan is going to avenge his death..
They are using the same actor from TMOPB Alan Yu (于朦胧) as BaiZhen. Is there even a book on the these 2? Or is it just a spinoff since the these previous series was such a hit and they just wanna make more money of the franchise?
Like sereiously I really like BaiZhen I hope its just one of those where he actually comes back alive kinda thing.
https://www.hotpot.tv/news/three-lives-three-worlds-part-3-in-the-works
Since it isn't a confirmed work from any production studio, I wouldn't put too much stock into it. These are copyrighted characters of TQ, I can't see her liking this plot line. On top of that these two characters were inspired by another author's work that accused TQ of plagiarism. I don't see her trying to stir that pot up again now that it has just settled.
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This adorable BTS of the mini me's
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Ahem ahem
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Side note, I am meal planning for the week. I really really really want to make ginormous meatballs just so I can be unladylike and hold them in my hands.
but also, they look so appetizing when she eats them like that.
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16 minutes ago, Dreams87 said:
That’s the only reason that I could think of. They are probably and hopefully will release the uncut version. As they have the cut one now so it’s only logical because there will be the uncut one
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I think they are gauging how much relevance ELoD still has.
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23 minutes ago, MayanEcho said:
@vivi0303 I'm not sure if JH or ZH will still have flesh left behind after numerous burns, if they don't shape up fast enough
Joking aside, your mom sounds awesome.
I think her shade and savagery is just from sheer boredom at this point.... and impatience with my father
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3 hours ago, MayanEcho said:
Will you get the dreaded "Richard Simmons" if you post a sample of her ehem, savagery?
My mom is a polite savage.
A little background, she's part Belgian and very polite, finishing school polite. So no "richard simmons-ing" in the parent's house. But her savagery is catching me off guard these days.
"Must also be the culmination of stress from being stuck in a home with your father 24/7" (her words, nobody is safe at this point)
"Wouldn't it be funnier if SMY dug that whole to catch that frog, JH, instead of CD" (out of the blue after we were discussing how cute SMY is, as we were hotpot-ing at the parent's house last night) Dad jokingly asked "what into a hole full of boiling water?" (points at the hotpot). Mother "why would we ruin a perfectly boiling hot pot for that frog?"
2 burns here, there is a Chinese idiom that loosely translates to the "frog at the bottom of the well" (someone who boasts they know best, have the best/their little well is the best, but are truly lacking experience or is ignorant of the way of the world/that there is a whole world outside of their little well). Mom just elegantly called her an ignorant idiot. My mother folks, my mother.
Quick someone grab JH the aloe vera for that burn. But wait, she wasn't even good enough to be boiled in our hotpot
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1 hour ago, MayanEcho said:
Can ZH be taken in too as bonus?
She should just start a reform school for antagonist female leads.
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8 hours ago, MayanEcho said:
Where's @vivi0303's mom?
JH karma should be her being virtually alone, with nobody she can really call as a friend, and her subjects always plotting to overthrow her.
My mama is a little more savage than the entire forum combined.
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4 hours ago, 水蜜桃 said:
let's be honest, if they're going public, they're going to go the feng shaofeng & zhao liying route, straight up taking pictures of their marriage licenses.
Picture of the marriage license and a baby on the way
then the rabid fans would just be pure evil to separate a poor baby's parents. Antagonize the antagonizers. I need an evil laugh emoji.
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17 minutes ago, TLing said: Did I miss some scenes? I only saw him in the part when they were leaving the restaurant. Was there other scenes I missed? I think I 'll need to pause and wear glasses if I did.
The scene where he first arrives in Fanyin Valley and she sees him in the forest/trees
Every time we know he is in the background lounging and eavesdropping on FJ. The director makes sure to hide him in the scenery with purple flowers. They do show him in those scenes, but it's fun to look for his silhouette when it pans back to FJ
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12 minutes ago, MayanEcho said:
Your mom is the best fan!
If she had any inclination to use the internet, this forum would be on fire. She's adorkable and a little savage. Don't get her started on JH
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And so the plot thickens. Shippers have such sharp eyes
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I just want to applaud the directors for the greatest game of "Where's Waldo?", aka "Find DHDJ" my mom is rewatching the series all over again after she calmed down from the epic conclusion and just realized she has to put on glasses, pause some scenes, to find our creeper DH.
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30 minutes ago, triplesung said:
I just find it quite selfish of her to not think of BGG. Mothers naturally think of their child more than their partners. But I guess this just shows her love for DH.
She could have at least mentioned GG when they were both dying.
A couple of hundred pages back, I did an analysis of the author's mindset.
When TQ wrote TMOPB and PB, we can ascertain how young she really is. It is reflected in her heroines.
She was not a mother and put more importance for love over motherly love as she had not personally experienced nor had the maturity to understand motherly love to a child.
We actually see so much growth from BQ of TMOPB to FJ of PB. The actions of the two heroines when finding out they are pregnant when both were "abandoned", to their interactions with their child, grew leaps and bounds IMHO.
Can't wait for the upcoming novels to see how our favorite author has grown.
It's very fitting that BF shall be the last in the series of the main entourage. As they are more "mature", on equal generational footing and super old. The author's own journey and evolution as a writer should be able to aid her in that novels main couple perfectly.
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I wanted to remind my creative writers on the forum that intellectual property is someone's hard work, sweat and tears. Plagiarism is stealing someone's work word for word and easily caught, there are content plagiarism checkers. Infringement of someone's intellectual property is stealing their ideas/concept. This is like writing a scene and a series of events but changing the names/locations/or even which character goes through it.
As I am reading fanfic, I see blatant infringement going on. These platforms may not enforce copyright/intellectual property infringement, but authors of original works may choose to do so. Everything is time stamped when you post chapters, so there is no use fighting who stole from whom.
As fanfic is an iffy arena, since it is all inspired by original works, please still be mindful of your fellow creative writers, always cite TQ for her original characters/names and any other creative writers you took inspiration from.
If you think someone has infringed on your work(s), let me know and I can advise you how to respectfully resolve the matter.
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maybe just dancing 
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Did I miss some scenes? I only saw him in the part when they were leaving the restaurant. Was there other scenes I missed? I think I 'll need to pause and wear glasses if I did.
[Mainland Chinese Web Drama 2020] Three Lives Three Worlds The Pillow Book 三生三世枕上书
in Mainland China
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We are moving the wedding out for another two years
I decided to go back to school for another doctorate. Hehe. Mom can't really argue, because she wants the ENTIRE family to attend, so we have to wait until the world allows that. 