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18 minutes ago, cenching said:
For some people who commented about HY stays (other maids as well) despite SY’s bad behavior, you need to know that HY and every single maid depicted in the drama weren’t simply maids, they were slaves. Slave can’t simply resigns just because they wanted too, it will cost them their lives if they do that. Their life is owned by the slave masters. Remember Little DamHyang?
I think youre talking about me. Hahahaha
But I dont mean it that way.
Yes, I understand that maids are slaves in that era and have no freedom to get away from their masters. But when I said HY was "loyal" and chose to stay in SoYong's side, I dont exactly refer to her physical body. What I refer to is her heart.
If SoYong's character is truly rotten (as what some people here concluded), HY's attitude to her should have not been the way as it is in the show. She might not hate SY but she might have been scared of her just like how the GQD's maid is scared of GQD. But no, HY still sees SY as a sister and a dear friend. She knows she is not cruel. She knows her the most and so she understands her real character. She knows that SY is not a cruel and bad person.
HongYeon also speaks her mind freely in front of SY. If other maids do this, I believe they will be punished severely. That says a lot about SY's character tbh.
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1 hour ago, N. S. said:
Hi, today I woke up and felt I was too much in my theory, so I edited my version and let the baby be born (I tried to follow real Korean history in my previous one but I guess with BH being as Queen they made butterfly effect and changed history a lot) So let King&Queen have kids))
I mean I will be happy for Soyeon only if she discloses the truth to the King herself, if she tells him about BH contribution to the win without being "Hwajin 2.0". Yeah, I know she was all along in the body together with BH. But I need some fair closure for BH in the past because he really put "all in" in King and I personally feel he fell in love with Cheoljong sincerely and gradually, day after day, bit by bit. Because as I rewatch Mr. Queen videos, series I feel it's a story of BH, he is the real main character, we saw his journey and personal growth. And his love with CJ. He was with the King for longest and won a batttle together,even made a baby and started to love the baby "our baby you are so cute, do whatever you want to do"...
About Soyeon - in the first part she didn't even know the King's face, she told BI about it, that in her dreams he looked like BI. And she met him once under snow and then during Queen audition along with dauthers of other noble families. And they met in childhood once. It was enough for her to fall in deep love wjth the King so she deserves him more?
But BH went though all Mr. Queen series struggles, painful moments as active participant, decision taker. Yes, Soyen saved CJ once in childhood from the well. But BH also helped him win over his enemies. And Cheoljong started to choose the Queen over Concubine Hwajin only after BH appeared in the picture, after he intrigued him by uniqeness and eccentric personality, after BH telling him truth, proving he is loyal to him, not his Kim clan. I believe soul can love soul, souls connection and unity "soulmates"?
So it feels unfair and painful for me. Soyeon loved King. But we shouldn't forget Hwajin loved King sincerely too. They both went villain from love pain (Soyeon tortured the maids, Hwajin was bad to Sobong).
But directors, writers told us BH didn't love the King, just bromance, so he deserves nothing? Mm... I don't think I will ever rewatch Mr. Queen again or recommend someone. Bitter aftertaste.
As Ive said many times, I saw SoBong as SoYong and BongHwan combined thats why I dont feel like it was only Bong Hwan who did those things. What Bong Hwan experienced, So Yong did too. I do feel that it was unfair to Bong Hwan to have forcefully transferred back to the present time without any closure but Bong Hwan's life hasnt ended yet. He still has a bright future ahead of him and who knows what happens in those times, right? My imagination says he will meet the reincarnation of CheolJong and they will fall in love with each other. All over again. hahahaha
Your last statement makes me so saaad. Mr. Queen is so much more than its ending. Its your opinion so I respect it.
As for me, I love the show to pieces. In fact, I am rewatching from episode 1 and i still recommend it to my friends
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15 hours ago, Ni Wen said:
To those who hated the ending, that person you all love is SB not BH. Its a combination of SY and BH. I agree the direction wasn't clear that SY was present but sometimes it doesn't have to be that explicit. We are watching a drama where we need some space for imagination and not everything to be explained clearly and where the progress or ending of the drama can be easily predicted
i totally agree with this!!!! People who are disappointed with the ending are the people who see SoBong as only Bong Hwan. But for me, I always saw SB as both SY and BH so the ending didnt disappoint and hurt me that much. Cause I love So Yong as much as I love Bong Hwan. Now the only thing that bugs me is that BH was forcefully removed from SY's body without any closure. But we werent really shown the events after BH woke up in the future and i know that BH will live long so a lot of things will happen still that are not shown in the show.
This is what made the ending a masterpiece, it left us hanging and intrigued and it sparked debates from left to right. Maybe this is what the writers are really up to. They want us to still talk more about the drama even after it ended. And they succesfully got what they wanted. Theyre geniuses yall!
13 hours ago, N. S. said:Hi guys, I'm so late to comment to this topic, but even after 4 days since Ep20 I couldn't recover from my disappoinment from the final
I was thinking about it and suddenly I got some idea I want to share.
For those of you who is sad with endgame "Cheoljong&Soyeon"-my interpretation and theory. So in the end Bonhwan went back to the 21th century. I believe he loved the king truely. And Cheoljong loved exactly BH, not SY. He loved his personality, his uniqeness, his surprizes and brave soul. He would wake up from nightmares and by writing Queen dictionary he could escape from those nightmares. BH was his comfort. Soyeon...from Bamboo forest I saw he was attracted to her...but I think it wasn't enough for him - he even put the sword to her neck, he dated Hwajin meanwhile etc. Towards Soyeon it was just attraction. Before wedding how many times he met Soyeon? Soyeon told BI she doesn't even know the King's face and in her sleep dream he looked like her cousin BI. I wonder why Soyeon suddenly fell in deep love with King-the almost stranger for her. Maybe influenced by her father's talks, ideas. So I don't think they met lots of times before Queen audition. The King liked Hwajin a lot too but in the end he let her leave the palace. And "well" incident - he told Hwajin he didn't like her just because of their childhood memories. So I think the same applies to Soyeon.
So ...after BH left, the palace felt to quiet and empty for me... Probably for Cheoljong too. I think after a while he realized Soyeon is not the soul he truely fell in love it. But as he said previously in a situation with SB and Hwajin he decided not to disclose the truth no one wants to disclose. So maybe he kept pretending that everything the same between King and Queen. And Cheoljong remembers how BH told him that he is from the future, so King left a message for future generations - his funny portrait/picture. It's unusual for the King to be portrayed in funny way in history book so I guess Cheoljong purposefully chose exact that portrait of himself. It was his "hi" to the future BH. About their kid - the drama didn't show the baby...so I have suspicions he wasn't born in the end... Because according to real history as I remember Cheoljong didn't have a child with the Queen. Maybe with concubines. Cheoljong probably was loved King and made many progressive reforms. So he left an impact. But do you remember how he told BH, that he sometimes thinks all the happening is past and in reality he is dying as incompetent King. Maybe...he missed BH a lot, since Soyeon as good woman she is, still is not eccentric, funny, loud, easy, "tigress in bed", 21th century BH who would blow his mind with funny surprizes. So maybe Cheoljong got sad a lot and started to womanize etc. to try to fill the void left by BH. And in the end died at young age alone and sad. So in the past two souls that fell in love couldn't be united. But Cheoljong also wished to be reborn to meet BH again as commoners. So I think...maybe in the 21th century they will still meet. I don't know who Cheoljong will be in his next life. Maybe not a man. But I believe BH and CJ will definitely meet at some day and fall in love once again. So...this is the interpretation my sad heart created in my mind
you have such a great imagination! But im sad that you left SoYong out of the equation and I feel bad for her in your own version of the drama. I love So Yong as much as I love Bong Hwan so im a little heartbroken by your story.
But oh well, whatever makes you happy. I respect your opinion because I also have my own version of events in my mind. hahahaa
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20 hours ago, cdcotr said:
Just a quick comment on this. Abt HY not staying loyally by her side if SY was truly cruel. Well, the maids in this drama seem very loyal and trained to be so. The GQD's maid remained loyal even after she was not longer in power and we all know the GQD is a lot more vicious and cruel than any other character in the show. She had her own grandson killed, the previous king, to keep her power! And HJ's maid remained loyal even while she was being tortured.
So it's not a good way to gauge it.
Hi. I agree that maids are trained to be loyal to their masters in that era. But I can see that Hong Yeon is loyal to SY not just because she was trained but because she genuinely loves her. When BH first woke up in HY's body, she was genuinely happy and even cried for her mistress. The GQD's maid may remain loyal to her, but we can see that sometimes she was uncomfortable sometimes because she was being tortured by the GQD. What I saw with HY is that she genuinely sees SY as a sister and not just a mistress.
Regarding SY's cruelty, lets just agree that she just went through a villainess arc yeah? haha I mean every one in the show had made wrong decisions in their life. Even Bong Hwan isnt a saint. Yes, what she did was wrong but she redeemed herself and learned her lesson. Im not justifying her actions but its unfair that some people here looked down on her just because of her past actions.
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52 minutes ago, cenching said:
Will SY the noble chaste little virgin Lady of Joseon able to performed the "aum" to such level that made CJ went gaga???
I don't even need to guess....
well at least now that she acquired some mannerisms from bong hwan, i would like to believe that she will also display those skills in their bedroom from now on. hahahaha
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11 hours ago, tazmin said:
I think ultimate the biggest issue is that there wasn’t enough development for SY in the main series. If you have to resort to a spinoff for required development, that’s a fail imo.
That’s a very diplomatic answer cause in the show, when SB acted like a Queen, CJ freaked out. I’m sure in reality CJ while in love with SY, would’ve been fundamentally confused at what happened to fire in his Queen. Would he stay as in love as he was with SB with SY? Probably not
i do believe that that is one of the flaws of the show. But the writers actually tried. In the chinese version, there were no hints about the og queen. In this drama, the writers actually tried to give more development for SoYong, sometimes focusing on her history, feelings for the king, childhood background with the king, etc. Even without the spinoff, they tried to justify the connection between our royals by using the childhood lovers trope. Unfortunately for them, they werent able to convince the audience about that especially with the king saying to Hwa Jin that he didnt like her just because of what she did when they were kids.
On the fact that I saw SoYong and Bong Hwan as one, I always interpret SoYong as a tamer Bong Hwan. They may have differences in personalities because of the environment they lived in (and their gender) but So Yong and Bong Hwan basically have the same character. They both have the tendencies to break rules, they both have the courage to be cruel and selfish sometimes, and they both treasure those who are important to them. Well, thats just my opinion.
If we follow the destiny trope, I do believe that the king will stay in love with the queen. Their meetings arent coincidences and it seemed like they were arranged by fate. Their meeting when they were kids, the love at first sight scene, them being enemies. In those instances, SoYong has been showing the king different sides of her. She was mature in the well, was gentle when they first met as adults, was cruel when they became enemies, was rowdy when she was possessed by Bong Hwan. In the King's eyes all of those personalities are SoYong and he felt all kinds of emotions towards her during those times. I believe that when CJ realized that he is in love, he just didnt fell in love with Bong Hwan's personality but all of SoYong - even the SoYong before Bong Hwan possessed her. Bong Hwan's personality helped him understand the queen more.
And when I say So Yong and Bong Hwan is one, I do believe that CJ fell in love with both SoYong and Bong Hwan. Thats why in my mind, I believe that Bong Hwan will meet CJ's reincarnation in the present time and they will fall in love. The writers did not elaborate but they cannot stop my imagination! haha Theyve been hinting at "next life" in the spinoffs soooo.. hihi
11 hours ago, tazmin said:That’s a very diplomatic answer cause in the show, when SB acted like a Queen, CJ freaked out. I’m sure in reality CJ while in love with SY, would’ve been fundamentally confused at what happened to fire in his Queen. Would he stay as in love as he was with SB with SY? Probably not
And I guess he was already confused, when he asked the queen why is she calling him formally haha but I believe he stayed in love with her, what with the happy ending Bong Hwan read in the present time.
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Just now, aisling said:
The more I think about it the more I’m convinced the spin-off was served as the justification for So Yong/Cheoljong endgame. I find it highly suspicious they didn’t include their first dreamy meeting if the meeting was so impactful for both of them.
I find it ridiculous when people say Cheoljong had feelings for So Yong from the start. He saw her for 2 minutes and people think he loved her? He was intrigued by her beauty and familiarity. If he truly loved her like he loved So Bong, would he be able to put the sword on her neck like he did in episode 3?
maybe not love her love her but isnt attraction the start of falling in love? Maybe it's not love but it was definitely something. These kdramas somewhat rely on fairytale-like plots and isnt "love at first sight" a device used by many fairy tales in the past? This drama's premise felt like Romeo and Juliet in sooo many ways. hahahha
Anyways I found this on fb to somewhat uplift our moods about the ending.
And I quote...
"For those of us wondering if CJ can still love So Yong without BH's soul, this is the actor's answer.
CJ loved the person in front of him. We are the only ones who know that there are two souls inside So Bong. He just loved the woman in front of him and always wanted to get to know her better. He loved the girl in the well. He loved the woman in the rain (spin-off). And he loved the queen with a man's soul. And now, that soul has left her, he will still love her and strive to get to know her better. As long as she is in front of him. That is my interpretation. Hehe.
"Even if you have the most flaws in the world, I will still like you." He said EVEN IF, not BECAUSE OF. He chooses to understand, accept and love his queen, no matter what she did, whether she is womanly or man-like. Hope you also find this kind of love that will always choose you. Lol!"-
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6 hours ago, cdcotr said:
This is the 3rd time I'll be typing this bec I don't know how but it disappeared before I could hit post.
I just wanted to bring up something that stuck with me from the beginning and was never adequately explained. It was brought up in previous page..
It was how SY acted in the palace, punishing maids, court ladies, eunuchs and maybe even kids as they were shown to be scared of her. She had them punished even for minor if not non-existent faults.
GQD mentioned that she might have done that to get out of being chosen as queen. Though it was never explicitly confirmed.
If this was her plan, it was cruel. and ineffective.
She was vicious and punished innocent people to get out of something she agreed to do.
She could have asked her father to take her home. He seemed to dote on her and spoil her even if he might neglect her. Or she could have pretended to be sick, or even pretend to have a lover.
Schemes that would not involve hurting other people who could not fight back.
Besides, being cruel would not have deterred the GQD, KJG, the ministers as they are all cruel and vicious too. They wouldn't care. All they wanted is to use her to control CJ and boost their power in the court.
They would not have let her go for anything short of being infertile or being caught having an affair (maybe a rumor would do).
But her choice to ruin her chances by being cruel and hurting innocent people, instead of taking a more drastic and risky to herself plan (but would be more effective)...well...tells me something of her character.
Regarding Soyong's bad behavior, I believe she was acting. She was acting to be cruel for her to be dethroned. Cause if she truly was cruel, do you think Hongyeon would loyally stay by her side and cry for her? I believe that she would not think highly of Soyong if her real nature was truly cruel. But that didnt happen, Hongyeon was the one who truly knows her. She was the one who told Bong Hwan about the queen's cruel deeds but she defended her and told him that its not her real character.
Anyways moving on...
The reason why I was not that hurt about the ending are as follows: ( just a little bit disappointed by the loose ends of the drama)
*Before the famous ep 7, I didnt see Bong Hwan and Cheoljong as potential love interests because Bong Hwan is definitely straight without a hint of any inclinations to men. I did wonder about CJ's feelings for So Yong though because in Episode 3 (or 2?) just before he went and tried to kill the queen, Prince YP told him that he should not be distracted by his personal feelings for the queen. That they needed to kill the queen despite what he may feel (or something like that). So when I saw that, I was like, does CJ feel something for the queen but just hid it because they are enemies? So yeah, as early as episode 3 (or 2 haha srsly I dont remember), I already suspected that the King feels something for the queen before Bonghwan came in.
*After SoBong woke up from the vegetative state, I always viewed Bong Hwan and So Y
6 hours ago, cdcotr said:This is the 3rd time I'll be typing this bec I don't know how but it disappeared before I could hit post.
I just wanted to bring up something that stuck with me from the beginning and was never adequately explained. It was brought up in previous page..
It was how SY acted in the palace, punishing maids, court ladies, eunuchs and maybe even kids as they were shown to be scared of her. She had them punished even for minor if not non-existent faults.
GQD mentioned that she might have done that to get out of being chosen as queen. Though it was never explicitly confirmed.
If this was her plan, it was cruel. and ineffective.
She was vicious and punished innocent people to get out of something she agreed to do.
She could have asked her father to take her home. He seemed to dote on her and spoil her even if he might neglect her. Or she could have pretended to be sick, or even pretend to have a lover.
Schemes that would not involve hurting other people who could not fight back.
Besides, being cruel would not have deterred the GQD, KJG, the ministers as they are all cruel and vicious too. They wouldn't care. All they wanted is to use her to control CJ and boost their power in the court.
They would not have let her go for anything short of being infertile or being caught having an affair (maybe a rumor would do).
But her choice to ruin her chances by being cruel and hurting innocent people, instead of taking a more drastic and risky to herself plan (but would be more effective)...well...tells me something of her character.
Regarding Soyong's bad behavior, I believe she was acting. She was acting to be cruel for her to be dethroned. Cause if she truly was cruel, do you think Hongyeon would loyally stay by her side and cry for her? I believe that she would not think highly of Soyong if her real nature was truly cruel. But that didnt happen, Hongyeon was the one who truly knows her. She was the one who told Bong Hwan about the queen's cruel deeds but she defended her and told him that its not her real character.
Anyways moving on...
The reason why I was not that hurt about the ending are as follows: ( just a little bit disappointed by the loose ends of the drama)
*Before the famous ep 7, I didnt see Bong Hwan and Cheoljong as potential love interests because Bong Hwan is definitely straight without a hint of any inclinations to men. I did wonder about CJ's feelings for So Yong though because in Episode 3 (or 2?) just before he went and tried to kill the queen, Prince YP told him that he should not be distracted by his personal feelings for the queen. That they needed to kill the queen despite what he may feel (or something like that). So when I saw that, I was like, does CJ feel something for the queen but just hid it because they are enemies? So yeah, as early as episode 3 (or 2 haha srsly I dont remember), I already suspected that the King feels something for the queen before Bonghwan came in.
*After SoBong woke up from the vegetative state, I always viewed Bong Hwan and So Yong as one soul. (Cause I really thought they are going for the reincarnation route) I saw them as equals, I never thought that Bong Hwan dominated the body, or SoYong sometimes take over because I truly believed they are one. Maybe the thought process is only BongHwan because he believes that he is Bong Hwan but in reality she is not only him. SoBong as what we call her is SoYong +BongHwan ; they moved as one unit. And there was even a scene where SoBong talked about SoYong's memories as if it were hers. Sobong was just in denial thats why he/she rejected SoYong's memories and identity as hers. Cause the nature of man and woman inside him/her clashed.
Anyways thats what I believed after Sobong woke up. I never saw the queen as Bong Hwan or So Yong separately, so I dont feel like So Yong took all the credit that should be Bong Hwan's. I felt like what all Bong Hwan did, she did also.
*I am still a strong supporter of the reincarnation theory. That Bong Hwan is So Yong's reincarnation. It was never clarified in the drama but who knows right? They even hinted on "next life" in the spin offs. In my mind, Bong Hwan will meet Cheol Jong's reincarnation in the future and then they will fall in love again or something like that. I love reading fanfics soooo. hahaha
*everyone got a happy ending and I believe Bong Hwan was truly haooy. I do believe the ending was rushed cause they couldve explained more about the time travel/soul swapping or whatnot; but nevertheless I love everything in Mr. Queen including the ending. Though I feel sorry for Bong Hwan because he got separated from CJ and the others But thats why I believe in my imagination that he will meet the reincarnation of CJ and the others in the present time. Who knows right?.
anyways thats just my opinion.
Thank you every one!
i will still rewatch from episode 1! i love this drama to pieces.
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4 minutes ago, enzek said:
I don't understand why is it so hard to make Bong Hwan as the future reincarnation of So Yong?
I believe many local audience won't be angry if the screenwriters dare to make it like that.
So Bong even mentioned about the reincarnation theory with Dam Hyang in the past episode.
Come on screenwriters!
Ughh my heart
credit to the owner
So this is happy ending huh
credit to the owner
It's always the one at the future that suffers
credit to the owner
Exactly my sentiments. Sighhhhhhh
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1 minute ago, kimchimandu said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong - but I recall that the turning point was because Sobong saved Hwajin and CJ. That episode stirred something within CJ- he softened up his stance ever since then. He visited her in her chamber, gifted her a book and the wild orchid.
I was talking about SoBong's feelings not CJ. Cause before the vegetative state, I really don't feel any chemistry between Bong Hwan and CJ. I felt like Bong Hwan doesn't really like the King in that way and never will because he's straight. He started to feel something for the King after acquiring Soyong's memories and identity. When he woke up from being in a vegetative state
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4 minutes ago, gglex6275 said:
What she remembers are the memories that JBH had while he was in her body, but bear in mind that she does not have his knowledge (politics, skills and over all experience). Remember that SB and CJ have their nightly ritual of story telling, so does this mean it does not happen after?
SY does not have memories of the future. So she will have nothing to say further about what interests CJ. He is interested in social science, remember as SB said, since he always looked forward to their nightly talks.
4 minutes ago, gglex6275 said:What she remembers are the memories that JBH had while he was in her body, but bear in mind that she does not have his knowledge (politics, skills and over all experience). Remember that SB and CJ have their nightly ritual of story telling, so does this mean it does not happen after?
SY does not have memories of the future. So she will have nothing to say further about what interests CJ. He is interested in social science, remember as SB said, since he always looked forward to their nightly talks.
Remember that BH acquired Soyong's embroidery and music Skills after he woke up? What if it's the same with Soyong? I really believe that So Yong is not just a passive occupant of her body. I dunno. I'm just justifying everything now. Hahaha
2 minutes ago, xinyue99 said:I would agree with you, BUT then I remember there was a scene where SY soul (?) drowned to the bottom of the lake. so what was the point of that scene ?
I am not against SY-CJ ending, but they just don’t give us proper closure
I remember this but I admit that I did not watch this episode that much. Maybe it means another thing? I dunno
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2 minutes ago, gglex6275 said:
Let us see here, the dynamics of the entire palace will change because in the first place SY is not and in no way SB!
Kitchen Dynamic - SY does not cook. So the created relationship between the royal chef and the cooks in the kitchen, kaput! The relationship cultivated there will just be a mere fragment of the memory (which we would like to assume that the writers would forget). In reality, those fostered relationship makes a person what he/she is.
Will this mean that SY will never set foot in the kitchen, since she really does not have any inclination to cook? Neither does she have the talent.
SB has a good relationship with the concubines. How will it be after? How will the concubines react to the former super friendly queen to this self-conscious queen?
Royal Doctor - We have to remember that the Royal Physician also has some sort of love-hate relationship with SB! He was the one who knew the emotional struggles of SB! He may not understand half of what SB says, he did say it.
The eunuchs and the palace maids. SB formed a sort of relationship with them as well, remember during the fill up the lake fiasco?
All of these became open ended.
How on earth did they resolve the issues, disregarding everything else that was consequential to the build up of SB's social sphere?
Bong Hwan remembers all of Soyong's past memories so maybe Soyong also knows about Bong Hwan's memories in the future too? And her personality is basically a tamer Bong Hwan. So I still think they are one. But I still need more explanations!
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I really think that Bong Hwan came to love Cheoljong because of Soyong. Without her, he would've felt nothing for CJ. His feelings drastically changed after he/she was in a vegetative state. So I think that after that time, Sobong may felt and thought that he was Bong Hwan but in reality, it was both of them combined. Kind of like a fusion like in dragon ball. Hahaha like goten and trunks something like that hahahhaha so I felt like Soyong still has a part in everything. She did not freeload from Bong Hwan because she is still there. Just as Bong Hwan felt like he is Soyong sometimes, Soyong also felt the same way. That's my theory though.
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Bong Hwan remembers all of Soyong's past memories so maybe Soyong also knows about Bong Hwan's memories in the future too? And her personality is basically a tamer Bong Hwan. So I still think they are one. But I still need more explanations!
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Have you seen how the queen's eyes went up before she responded to the kiss? Was she possessed? hahhaaha maybe soyong truly possesed her that time? hahha
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1 minute ago, aisling said:
Holy S**T!!!!!!!!!!!!! This must be the hottest make out I’ve ever watched in a k-drama
They really went for it, right? OMG.
omygoodness. i hope they will not have controversy after this hahhaa {nervous laughing}
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I've been a lurker here and I am a new fan of Shin Hye Sun! I finished two of her dramas while waiting for Episode 9. Hahahha.
I can't wait for the next episode!
I also think that Bong Hwan and So Yong has more to their relationship than their childhood tryst.
SpoilerIf i remember it correctly, on episode 3, when So Bong unknowingly eavesdropped the king's convo with his brother and friend, his brother told him "Do not let your personal feelings get in the way." When I watched that, I was thinking aaah maybe Cheol Jong and So Yong has something - maybe not a romantic relationship but definitely something.
I hope Episode 9 will reach or expectations!
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I still havent watch all episodes of Part 3 .. haha I already had a premonition that this will have an open ending because 18 episodes cannot just wrap everything all up and now I'm afraid to watch it because of what I heard about the ending. And even if season 2 and 3 are pretty much confirmed, I am scared that I will have to wait for a long time and the cast will change so I'm still debating if I will watch the show or not. :( :(
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On 7/12/2019 at 4:29 AM, rocher22 said:
Finally, Eunseom is smiling. I like it.
One of the best Eunsoom scenes especially when he smiled with his clean face on the preview!
On 7/12/2019 at 11:54 PM, lightbringer06 said:Ha ha...okay, taga saan ka?
@lightbringer06, taga Cebu po.
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11 hours ago, cantbreathe said:
Aramun is a messenger that Asa Sin sent to Arthdal in her stead, he was then made a god by the Asa tribe. I don’t think he is her son. x
Oh, I thought I've seen a scene that said that Aramun is Asa Sin's son. I think I need to rewatch the series to correct my misconceptions.
9 hours ago, lightbringer06 said:Off topic, btw, were you the other Filipino here? I forgot the person who mentioned she is
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@lightbringer06, Yes, I am a Filipino.
9 hours ago, lightbringer06 said:At this point, I don't think the very first summary or synopsis of this drama is accurately correct, if not, it might be even wrong. The description of the characters from when this drama even began can be ignored for now
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I agree. The description said something about Taealha being a Neanthal. It's difficult to believe that after all that happened in the series so far.
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3 hours ago, firipy said:
Tanya's description was as ES's 1st love.....meaning ES got other loves, #2, #3 I dunno….. She is the direct bloodline of Asa Sin (passed down from her Mother) so meaning can have family or have to have family but with Igutu means bloodline messed up? Think possible for high priest to have kids like the Asa clan. Nt the old Chinese Priest n Priestess must be virgin or chaste etc. ES n TY will be emotional pillars for each other to hang in there. They seem to be like family more than lovers in the beginning or love that yet to developed. Tanya was also described as the 1st politician n Taelha as 1st queen, so its gonna be a whole new world I guess new country with no tribes or something.
Saya wasn't marketed in the beginning, prolly he is the surprise that the film marketeers are trying to create when the so call 2nd season is shown.
Plus the kind of twist this shows have, prolly more surprises to come but I hope it dun disappoint fans who waited so long for this show to air and when it does we have to wait for 2 mths more...…..
Looks like I have to create another email to get my 1st mth free Netflix cos current one gonna expire n 2 mths of wait wld waste my subs hahahha
Aramun Haesulla is said to be the son of Asa Sin. Aramun Hesulla is an igutu so that means Risan is a neanthal? Or does he have another father? Wow I really want a series dedicated to the story of these Arthdal ancestors.
3 hours ago, maribella said:I was thinking of that earlier. They created someone who sticks with the hero through hard times, loyal and don't forget pretty. This show is about conquerors, leaders and the choices they have to make to reach the pinnacle. If Tanya becomes High priestess, wouldn't it be unlikely for her to have a family of her own? I hope she can. While the girl deserves someone nice for her great heart, I especially like the first love OTP. Even in the depths of their despair, ES and TY had their memories, keeping them strong. I would not be able to say I enjoyed that show if it ended without the original OTP.
I'll still say that I enjoyed the show even if the main leads wouldnt end up with each other since this is not a romance drama anyways and even romance dramas have tragic endings. With these kind of dramas, I would definitely say that we need to really expect the unexpected. As long as they give me a good and a logical ending, I will definitely be satisfied with it even if half of the cast will be dead. hihi
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7 hours ago, lightbringer06 said:
And since we're talking about the romance department here, I just wanna say my personal opinion as well. I know that this drama is not totally about romance, but somehow it manages to showcase it in a very subtle but distinct way. We are very used to those cliche romantic dramas that we forget what love is supposed to be. It's also about hope, loyalty, trust, respect...at times, it's sweet, bittersweet, heart-wrenching....but REAL. Taelha and Tagon's love depicts trust. ES and TY's love transcends distance...it's about hope. The obstacles they had to go through...finding their own self..learning that life isn't all about rainbows and sunshine...gaining power so that they can stand on their own....before they finally can be together.
I really love how they portray the romance stuff in this drama. I am always a fan of shonen anime couples because of their subtlety. That's why I am very hooked with the love story here too.
7 hours ago, lightbringer06 said:As I have already mentioned before, perhaps the ending will be when they finally are reunited. Though, I would want to see them spend time together to catch up with those episodes they've been separated too
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Omygash, NO! That would be the worst ending for me. Just like you, I want to see them spend their time with each other before the show ends.
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4 hours ago, firipy said:
Reason for me saying the 2 twins getting to be more like 1 another is becos Eunseom was (telling Tanya in his heart ) enjoying the plotting against his slave master in order to escape n he felt its some sort of illness. Like Tanya saying she dun find the tactics in the art of war thru the game of chess like with stones to be fun, she said maybe she is sick for not liking.
I also dun understand why Mubaek let Eunseom off, cos he is son of Asa Hon whom he sort of has some feelings for.
The whole show seems to be due to human greed or the burning desire to stay alive. Tagon killing all the Neanthals for his father to stay alive, but in actual fact Neanthals din harm any Sarams rite? I forgot why is there war issit becos Neanthals are physically more powerful and they inhabit all the mountains/ covers a wide land? Maybe I shld start with episode 1 all over again. HAhahaha
I could truly see your point about Saya and Eunsoom becoming more alike.
I think the war started because the sarams wanted to use Neanthal's resources and they refused? Not sure about it too.
By the way, since I have withdrawal symptoms already, I am currently watching FMVs about this series especially the ones that centers around the relationship between Tanya, Eunsoom and Saya. It's giving me THE FEELS! <3
Sorry, my hopeless romantic side is speaking again haha
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I was thinking about it and suddenly I got some idea I want to share.
I don't even need to guess....
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i love this comment.
By the way, is it only me who saw SoBong as So Yong + Bong Hwan after episode 7? I always see them as one soul after that episode thats why I was not that hurt at the ending.