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  1. For various fanfiction novels on Dong-Hua and Feng-Jiu, including "Faithful Heart; Rain of Fire", please refer to this link, https://www.wattpad.com/list/695842361-di-jun-and-feng-jiu
  2. Thanks for your feedback, @Ninky If a sequel for Dong-Feng romance is difficult in China, one wonders if adaptations could be made in other countries. There have been such cases for other dramas. “Secret Garden”, originally a Korean serial, has adapted versions in China and Thailand. Meanwhile, gender bending “Hana-Kimi”, originally Japanese, has re-make versions in Korea and Taiwan. One wonders if re-make/adapted versions of ELOD could be produced in other countries. Thailand has a significant fan base for ELOD; maybe some producer could be persuaded to make an adaptation. Adaptation in Korea could be promising, as the country has ‘Gumiho’/ fox lady folklore. Instead of a nine-tailed fox, Feng-Jiu would be a nine-tailed Gumiho. Adaptation in Japan could also be promising, although miles of Peach blossoms may be replaced by miles of Sakura blossoms. It would be wonderful if Tang-Qi could be persuaded to serve as co-scriptwriter and if Dilreba and Vengo could reprise their roles as Feng-Jiu and Dong-Hua in these adaptations. If only this wish could be made into reality ….
  3. The great attraction of ELOD ELOD drama (and Pillow Book novel) indeed give us a rare gem of romance between beautiful Feng-Jiu and handsome Dong-Hua (as I detailed on page 627). That’s why we could not move on and want to keep discussing the Dong-Feng pair. Watching related dramas and reading related novels could provide better enjoyment of Dong-Feng Watching related dramas and novels may give us a better picture and enjoy many aspects about Dong-Feng that are not featured in ELOD. We could enjoy other great couples, too. For example, in Ten Miles of Peach Blossom (TMPB) drama, We could enjoy Bai-Qian and Ye-Hua, a great couple. We could also enjoy Dong-Feng romance as the second arc. In this, there was a scene in which Feng-Jiu cut her tail, to change her & Dong-Hua’s doomed love as etched in the ‘Fate Stone’. There was another scene on Feng-Jiu’s coronation as queen and her anguish that she never be reunited with Dong Hua. This anguish provides viewers with sweet redemption when they were reunited at ELOD. In addition, there are alternative stories (fan fictions) that feature Dong-Feng and could provide better understanding of their story. These stories could be found in several blogs, like “Wattpad”. One story, “Faithful Heart; Rain of Fire and Steel”, describes why Qing-Qiu elders were initially unhappy with Dong-Hua. It turns out that, when a foreign queen marries a Celestial clan male, the male took over the queen’s country and thus her country became a Celestial clan’s territory. Qingqiu leaders want Feng-Jiu to retain Qingqiu’s independence and they made Dong-Hua to agree that he would not take over Qingqiu. There is also another story, “The Qingqiu princess” (still ongoing), which is written as a sequel for “Pillow Book” and describes Dong-Feng’s daughter. Expectation for future work In TMPB drama, I learn that the producer introduces some Dong-Feng scenes that do not seem to appear in TMPB novel. This action provides a windfall, as Dong-Feng couple (played by Dilreba & Vengo) became popular and fans wanted them to continue their roles in ELOD, with great success. Hopefully, in the coming Lotus Fate and Bodhi Fate stories, writer Tang-Qi or drama producers could keep popular Dong-Feng couple as second leads, just as we enjoyed Dong-Feng as second leads in TMPB. I believe that the Dong-Feng’s inclusion may provide better attraction for these dramas. Of course, it would be great if Tang-Qi or drama producers could produce a sequel to ELOD, another romance drama about Dong & Feng, this time with Gun-Gun and possibly another child, preferably a daughter.
  4. Why lots of angst instead of lots of happiness? How I miss “Secret Garden”. In episode 8, poor Ra-Im (RI) came to Joo-Won’s (JW’s) big party and JW kissed her in front of the audience. Since then, they vowed to be together, helped in each other’s career, got married and had children, even though JW’s mom kept opposing the marriage, until the end (ep. 20). How I miss “Five Enough”. Single dad Sang-Tae (ST) and single mom Mi-Jung (MJ) got married in the middle of the serial, despite ST’s ex parents-in-laws’ opposition. They grew to love each other, helped each other’s career, and strived to be good parents & step parents for their children, until the end (ep. 54). Why is it that in most dramas, a nasty person, like Jin-Bong, could easily marry a good person (CJ) and live very happily, long before the last episode, while a kind person, like HJ, have to suffer in most episodes and might only marry at the last episode? Why is it that good and enjoyable romance and family dramas are rare, like spring in a desert? Why is it that most writers, directors, and producers prefer to provide a lot of ‘angst’ until the last episode (even when the serial is 150-episode long) rather than giving us viewers many happy and enjoyable scenes for the kind leads, in fairly long period (i.e., 5-30 episodes) before the drama comes to end? Aren’t they aware that many of us would just use the FF button for the bad leads’ scenes and only watch the scenes involving the kind leads or read comments? Lord, have mercy. Hopefully you are right. I read, somewhere, that the script-writer might even plan for HJ to remarry JS.
  5. Let’s keep the board going Why many viewers, including myself, continue to hold on ELOD, after the serial is over? Perhaps, as I discussed in detail on page 627, ELOD embodies our ideal for romance. Feng-Jiu is the one-and-only-woman for Dong-Hua. In turn, Dong-Hua is the one-and-only man for Feng-Jiu. They never have a place in their hearts for other people. FJ & DH are ready to live together, face everything together, and support each other, from episode 1 to 56. FJ & DH are equal in every respect, in love and responsibility, including being ready to risk their lives to guard the welfare of the all people in the worlds. FJ and DH are very romantic to each other and they step up their romance after marriage. They retain their youthful spirit, which maintains their romance. Thus, the serial fulfill our dreams of being romantic forever. [After marriage or living together, spouses seldom do things that they did when they were dating. As a result, their love life become a routine and lost their charm over time]. After watching hundreds of dramas, we may find that romance drama that could satisfy our ideal love is rare, and that ELOD is a real gem of romance. That is probably why we could not move on. If so, let’s keep this thread going. Here, we could discuss various aspects, episodes, or scenes, of ELOD, which merit special or further attention. We could inform fellow viewers, if we find similar dramas, books, or fan-fictions. Most importantly, we could inform scriptwriters, directors, and producers that we, respectfully, hope them to develop similar projects of true romance. We could inform them that we are tired with ‘romance’ dramas, in which the main kind FL & ML develop their relationship somewhere in the middle, shortly get separated, and only get reunited in few short scenes at the end of the last episode. Having to wait for 50+ (or, worse, 100+) episodes, just to wait for few paltry romantic scenes in the middle and at the end of the serial? No, thanks. Hopefully, this board may pave the way for a revolution in romance drama. ELOD (also TMOPB) has shown how a romance should be developed and we would not settle for less. Sisters and brothers, let’s do it.
  6. A Tribute to “Eternal Love of Dream”: A Monumental Masterpiece Countless dramas have been referred to as ‘romances’. Yet, in most of them, the kind FL (female lead) and ML (male lead) are truly reunited only at the last episode. Thus, there are only very few scenes, lasting some minutes each, in which viewers could share and enjoy their sweet bonding moments. (Meanwhile, nasty leads are often reunited somewhere in the middle of the drama and enjoy a lot of happy scenes, while ruining the kind leads’ lives, and thus annoying the viewers). Viewers all over the world must have been wondering what is romantic about such dramas. These viewers have yearned for years for a true romance, in which (1) the main FL & ML are each other’s true soul mates, and (2) they have been reunited long before the romance drama comes to end, so that (3) their love bond is expressed in numerous scenes, for the viewers to enjoy. Finally, the “Eternal Love of Dream” drama appears and may provide an answer to their longing for a true romance: The story is quite focused on the romance between main good FL (Bai Feng-Jiu) & ML (Dong-Hua Dijun); thus, there is less distraction. While it has 56 episodes, the romance starts right from episode 1 and keeps going until episode 56. It has bonding scenes between Feng-Jiu & Dong-Hua in each episode. Thus, this drama has quite a lot of such scenes. There are many ways in which Feng-Jiu & Dong-Hua express their togetherness, like: Having close contacts: looking at each other tenderly, holding hands, hugging, caressing heads, kissing lips/noses/brows/hands Chatting and teasing Doing things together: projects, plays and fighting. The cute and bonding scenes are often given in long minutes so that the audience could absorb the sweetness. This is significant as in most ‘romances’, bonding moments are very short so that viewers could not enjoy the lingering feelings. This drama depicts the essence of true love: Feng-Jiu and Dong-Hua support each other, in life or death, from episode 1 to 56. ML Dong-Hua, a good fighter, always tries to protect her; however, FL Feng-Jiu is no damsel in distress; she is also a good fighter and always tries to protect him. The drama culminates in episode 56, when Feng-Jiu joins Dong-Hua in the death fight against Miao-Luo. Feng-Jiu decides to share the responsibility, of guarding the welfare of the whole worlds, with her husband, even at the risk of sacrificing their lives. At this point, Feng-Jiu is elevated to a real empress, equal to her husband, emperor Dong-Jiu. It is no coincidence that she, for the first time, regularly addresses him as “Dong-Hua”, an equal. It is all the more remarkable that, throughout the drama, Feng-Jiu is willing to assume the responsibility of protecting other people, although she is (relatively) very young, comparable to a high school senior & graduate in our real world. This should inspire a good lesson of responsibility to young people. In many dramas, the romantic scenes mostly happen when they date but decrease or stop after they marry. In this drama, after they get married (3 times in three lifetimes) the romantic scenes get even better. This should inspire a good lesson of romance for married/living-with-a-spouse couples. Many romance dramas could not fully satisfy some points in the above list. By contrast, this romance drama satisfies all of the 7 points. It is true that this drama is not perfect. For example, there are many understandings, between Dong-Hua and Feng-Jiu, which should have been fairly easily cleared. Secondly, it would have been better if the drama had been 58 episodes (like “Ten Miles of Peach Blossom”). In this manner, episodes 57 & 58 could show the scenes for: (1) solutions to problems between Dong-Hua and the Qing Qiu’s clan, due to his absence in wedding and Feng-Jiu’s pregnancy, (2) Dong-Hua’s anguish for Feng-Jiu’s comatose state, his desperate efforts to save her, and his jubilation when she wakes up, (3) happy family scenes involving Dong-Hua, Feng-Jiu, & Gun-Gun, (4) other problems, like the fact that Qingti breaks his promise for not going near Feng-Jiu. Nevertheless, despite these shortcomings, “Eternal Love of Dream” is one of the best romance dramas. In fact, it might be a significant milestone in the romance drama history. In other words, Therefore, I would like to express my deepest congratulations for all parties who contribute to the production of this drama. Well Done!
  7. Episodes 119 & after Chun-Dong got the evidence/recorder from Su-Jin. In some exceptional dramas, the lead would inform his/her ally, reproduce the evidence, keep it in a safe location, and send it to the prosecution. Meanwhile, s/h would not threaten the enemy. In this manner, s/he could ambush the enemy. However, this drama seems to follow the old formula: CD does not inform his ally (perhaps YW or SH). Instead, he goes straight to the chairman and threatens him, and thus alerting him. The result is as expected: The chairman sends someone to hit CD. Now CD might be unconscious for some episodes. Later, somebody might retrieve the evidence and send it the prosecutor. The result is that the chairman’s crimes might be unraveled at the last 2-3 episodes, and get punished only at the last episode. Meanwhile, the reunion between kind FL (YW) and ML (CD) might happen only near the end of the last episode. After waiting patiently for 124 episodes, viewers might be “rewarded” with very short happy reunion scenes between kind FL & ML (perhaps wedding or just kissing), just as happening in most dramas. It is the same old formula, folk. (Still, I would like to give the credit where it is due, i.e., that here the development is better than in some other dailies). as @Tracy G says it. Thanks for those who keeps watching every episode. Your comments give much information as to when to play the FF button and when to watch the whole episode.
  8. It is the wish of all drama lovers. Alas, this drama universe is sometimes very strange. Shady Mom-in-Law Here, main kind young couple (Jenny-Han & Eun-Suk), who were filial, competent at work for income, and diligent at housework, were divorced in the end. By contrast, nasty young couple (Young-Man & Ae-Yang), who were unfilial, incompetent at work for income, and lazy at housework, lived together with chaebol grandpa in their mansion. The criminal mom (Soo-Jin) kidnapped Jenny-Han, tortured her, and made her to help in pick-pocketing. Soo-Jin spent some time in prison for killing Eun-Suk’s dad (her time in prison was shown in only few short scenes, compared to a lot of episodes in which she tortured Jenny-Han & did the numerous crimes). However, when she was released, she went to live happily and luxuriously with her rich bio son (whom she also had abandoned). Finally, Jenny-Han divorced his loving husband (Eun-Suk), although this caused her, her husband, and her kid to live in suffering. Jenny-Han did this in order to be filial to her wicked “mom” (Su-Jin), who killed Eun-Suk’s dad, by sharing the punishment of being out of relationship with Eun-Suk’s family. Gracious revenge Don’t get me started with “Gracious Revenge”. The unfortunate lead, Mi-Ae, lost her husband, her business, and her kid. Yet, at the end, after, she donated her liver and gave her treasure to her adopted daughter, she died. By contrast, the criminal, Jae-Myung, who committed the murder, stole the business, & committed other crimes, and his accomplice, Eun-Ha, who stole the kid, were living and kicking. Until know, I still wonder as to what ethics or philosophy lesson these dramas (and other similar dramas) want to convey to the audience.
  9. In this drama, the main kind leads (So-Won & Jae-Hyuk) are already married and they fight together against the main nasty leads (Yun-Su, Min-Hyuk, Hwa-Ran, Sang-Tae). Yes, the main nasty leads are responsible for So-Won's sister death.
  10. Drama development: “Wanna Taste” vs. “Five Enough” We often scratched our heads over why useless characters get much air time and why certain necessary development has not taken place. For example, Hae-Jin: (1) has not talked with daughter Yu-Ri that she could not accept Jin-Sang and that she wants to marry Dae-Gu; (2) has not brought Yu-Ri to get close to Dae-Gu. I think we could guess the answer. This could be a plot device. Somewhere in the coming episodes, Hae-Jin and Dae-Gu may decide to marry. Then, Yu-Ri may oppose the plan and kind but weak Hae-Jin has to delay the marriage until the last episode. It is just the old tired formula. For viewers who deeply wish to see how single parents FL & ML (1) develop their romance, (2) get married in the half of the serial, (3) work hard to develop as step parents, and (4) manage their relations with grandparents, they may just (re-)watch “Five Enough” (“Five Children”). Then, we could scratch our heads again over why, instead of developing a wonderful plot for HJ & DG, like in “Five Enough”, the screen writer & director prefer to waste air time on the antics of Lord Jin-Sang, Lord Baek-Su, Lady Jin-Bong, Lord Jun-Ho, and Lady Yu-Ram*). Perhaps the producer needs to justify payments to the actors or actresses who play these characters by providing much air time for them. (Disclaimer: I refer to characters, not actors/actresses. I respect the actors/actresses who play these characters. After all, they have to follow the script & directors’ guidance). *) In football, the Lord/Lady is sometimes used to refer to a totally useless player in a reputable club.
  11. Expectation for this drama This drama is titled “Fatal Promise”. Previously there was a drama with “promise”, i.e., “The (Heaven’s) Promise”, which was a monumental revenge drama. Hopefully, “Fatal Promise” could compare with “The (Heaven’s) Promise” and Eun-Dong, in this drama, could compete with legendary Na-Yeon, in “The (Heaven’s) Promise”. Suggestion for additional watch: "Bad Love" “Bad Love” has 120 episodes. Main kind leads (FL So-Won & ML Jae-Hyuk) are married around episode 80 (unlike many dramas, where main kind FL & ML are reunited only at the last episode). Plot wise, this drama is better than its predecessor, “Everybody Says Kungdari”. Please check.
  12. Yes, "Pillow Book" was an off shoot of "Ten Miles". However, the plots on Feng-Jiu & Dong-Hua in "Pillow Book" and "Ten Miles" were somewhat different. People have suggested that when watching "Pillow Book", they need to start with a fresh perspective. Romance wise, both dramas are greatly enjoyable. The difference is that "Ten Miles" is "wider"-in the sense that it covers more relationships, while "Pillow Book" is "deeper"-in the sense it is more focused on the relationship between main FL & ML. Suggestion for additional watch: Bad Love “Bad Love” has 120 episodes. Main kind leads (FL So-Won & ML Jae-Hyuk) are married around episode 80 (unlike many dramas, where main kind FL & ML are reunited only at the last episode). Plot wise, this drama is better than its predecessor, “Everybody Says Kungdari”. Please check.
  13. Suggestion for additional watch: Bad Love “Bad Love” has 120 episodes. Main kind leads (FL So-Won & ML Jae-Hyuk) are married around episode 80 (unlike many dramas, where main kind FL & ML are reunited only at the last episode). Plot wise, this drama is better than its predecessor, “Everybody Says Kungdari”. Please check.
  14. Unconventional relationship in dramas So-Won is married to Jae-Hyuk. Meanwhile, So-Won’s younger brother, Ho-Jin, is the love interest of Cake (Yoo-Jin), Jae. If Ho-Jin marries Cake, then inverted relationships would occur: In Jae-Hyuk’s family, Cake would be aunt/aunt-in-law and Ho-Jin would be uncle-in-law to Jae-Hyuk and So-Won However, in So-Won’s family, So-Won would be unni/unni-in-law and Jae-Hyuk would be oppa-in-law to Ho-Jin and Cake. Although it may look complicated, there are other more complicated relationships. An example is “Nameless Woman”. FL Yu-Ri was once in de facto relationship with Mu-Yul. Yu-ri & Mu-Yul even had a daughter, Ma-Ya. However, later Mu-Yul married Hae-Ju, who also became a mother to Ma-Ya for some years. Meanwhile, Yu-Ri married Do-Chi, Hae-Ju’s uncle and Mu-Yul’s mother married Yu-Ri’s adopted brother. Thus, on one hand, Yu-Ri and Hae-Ju were in sisterhood relationship, as co-mothers for Ma-Ya. On the other hand, Yu-Ri was also Hae-Ju’s aunt-in-law. Ma-Ya viewed Hae-Ju as her second mother; however, when she moved and was registered in Yu-Ri’s family, Ma-Ya became Hae-Ju’s sister-in-law. Another example is in “Mother is Daughter-in-Law”. FL Hyun-Ju once married Gyung-Suk’s son, had a child, and become the latter’s daughter-in-law. After Gyung-Suk’s son died, Hyun-Ju married Sung-Tae, while Gyung-Suk married Bong-Ju. However, due to a complicated family tree, Sung-Tae happened to be a young uncle of Bong-Ju’s. Thus, Hyun-Ju was once Gyung-Suk’s daughter-in-law and then became Gyung-Suk aunt-in-law. Hyun-Ju referred to Gyung-Suk as “Mother-my-niece-in-law”. Generally, Hyun-Ju treated Gyung-Suk as a niece-in-law, particularly when Gyung-Suk behaved badly and in need of discipline. However, at other times, e.g., when she needed advice on giving birth or when she dealt with her child, Hyun-Hu treated her as a mother (-in-law).
  15. I feel for you. Hae-Jin & Dae-Gu have a good time in episode 106-107. However, considering past plot development, Jin-Sang & Bae-Yoo-Ram & Yu-Ri may work together to split the couple. Then, viewers would suffer more unromantic episodes in which the Lees sabotage the Kang’s happiness. At this rate, we do not know when HJ & DG would be reunited. It is possible that they are only reunited at the last episodes. May I offer an alternative? For general viewers People may be tired of dramas in which (1) the kind FL or ML is a doormat, (2) the kind FL & ML are reunited only at the last episode, (3) and thus the romantic scenes are very few. Then, they are invited to have a look at this drama. Great Romance: “Eternal Love of Dream” (Three Lives Three Worlds, The Pillow Book) For romance lovers, “Eternal Love of Dream” may be one of the best romances, for these reasons: The story is quite focused on the romance between main good FL (Bai Fengjiu) & ML (Dong Hua Dijun); thus, there is less distraction. While it has 56 episodes, the romance starts right from episode 1 and keeps going until episode 56. It has bonding scenes between FL & ML in each episode. Thus, this drama has quite a lot of such scenes. There are many ways in which FL & ML express their togetherness, like: Having close contacts: looking at each other tenderly, holding hands, hugging, caressing heads, kissing lips/noses/brows/hands Chatting and teasing Doing things together: projects, plays and fighting. The cute and bonding scenes are often given in long minutes so that the audience could absorb the sweetness. Both support each other from episode 1 to 56: The ML, a good fighter, always tries to protect the FL; however, the FL is no damsel in distress; she is also a good fighter and always tries to protect the ML’ In many dramas, the romantic scenes mostly happen when they date but decrease or stop after they marry. In this drama, after they get married (3 times in three lifetimes) the romantic scenes get even better. This is a good lesson for marriage/living with a spouse. IMO, many romance dramas could not even fully satisfy some points in the above list. By contrast, this drama satisfies all of the 7 points. Note: This may sound exaggerating. If so, please check the drama yourselves. Previously, there is another great romance: “Eternal Love” or “Ten Miles of Peach Blossom”; however, this drama (Pillow Book) has more bonding moments between main FL & ML than the previous drama). This drama is a topic in another thread listed in the right hand column (By angelangie). There is plenty of fish in the sea.