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  1. Some interesting consequences if Do-Ri is San-Ha & Soo-Ho's son Ae-Ra tries hard to pass the family wealth to Do-ri Ae-Ra fights tooth and nail to ensure that Do-Ri would inherit the company, thinking that he is Doo-Kyung's son. To prevent Soo-Ho from inheriting the rich family's wealth, she may transfer as much wealth as possible (shares, buildings, etc.) under Do-Ri's name. What would happen if, after all of her troubles for Do-Ri, he turns out to be Soo-Ho & San-Ha's lost child? What would she say when Do-Ri addresses her, "Hi, grandma, I love you"? How would she answer when Soo-Ho & San-Ha tell her, "Thank you very much for looking after our Do-Ri"? How much hair would she lost or how many plates would get broken? Hmm, such scenes would be priceless. Dear Production team & writer, please keep giving us enjoyable scenes. [Remark: The above scenario might not happen if Ae-Ra finds out that Chan is her real grandchild too soon. Already Ae-Ra notices that Chan has blood trauma, like late DK].
  2. SY & SJ's relationship seems to go on circles. Every time they get closer, something, or a 'near-miss', happens so that their relationship goes back again. For example, when SY is willing to marry SJ, the old chairman gets false news that magic treatment would heal SJ, and then he reverts to his hypocrite self and opposes their relationship. Then, when SJ brought SY to register their marriage, SY declines. Finally, when SY is ready for wedding photoshop, SJ got a problem with his foot and went away, I start to worry that the writer would use near-miss after near-miss, just to delay their reunion. When the reunion does occur, it may happen only at the last episode, perhaps even in the last minutes. Worse, SY & SJ might be reunited somewhere near the end, only for SJ to pass away, and then, at the last minute of the last episode, SY would stare at sea, missing SJ while being alone.
  3. While some aspects of "Golden Pouch" are enjoyable, it still follows the K101 cliche: 1) Main problem just went in circles & its solution [reunion between Suk-Hun & his lost (grand) parents] only occurred at the last 2 episodes. After reunion, very little time was available between the doctor & his (grand)parents. In fact, Suk-Hun spent much more time with his fake dad (a homeless person) in previous episodes. Why the writer gave a lot of air time between Suk-Hun & the fake dad, while giving very little air time between Suk-Hun & his real dad (after reunion) is a mystery to me. 2) The main couple, Suk-Hun & Sul-Hwa, split up about a score of episodes before the last and were only reunited at the last minute of the last episode. With such development, there was little psychological pay-off, as there was very little air time for sweet bonding moments between (a) the Suk-Hun & his lost grand (parents), after reunion, and (b) Suk-Hun & Sul-Hwa, after reunion.
  4. There are very few comments on this drama. Perhaps, many potential viewers gives up. The reason is that before episode 40 Chung-Yi still behaves like a kind but dumb lead. Usually, in many dramas, out of 120 episodes, meaningful development only takes place in the last 3-4 episodes. Thus many viewers may think that this drama is "business as usual" and that Chung-Yi would be smart only from episode 117. Why bother to watch now. However, from episode 41, Chung-Yi has grown assertive. She is not only assertive to Ji-Na, but starts to be assertive to her wicked adoptive mom as well. I find that Chung-Yi's development is faster than So-Yu's, in "Gangnam Scandal", who, until episode 85, still has not been assertive. Let's hope that many more viewers would take interest in this drama.
  5. Kudos to the production team & writer Background: Unsatisfactory plot in many dramas 1) A lot of drama plots have 3 unsatisfactory features: a) The secret, like abandoned child, is revealed only at the second last episode. Thus, viewers enjoy very little bonding time between reunited parent & child. b) Main good leads are only reunited in the last episode. Thus, viewers enjoy very little sweet time between reunited leads. c) Little or no punishment is shown for the bad leads. Thus, viewers do not get fulfillment for their sense of justice. The writer wants viewers to "use their own imagination" for good times between good leads and bad times for bad leads, and this is very disappointing. Partially satisfactory plot in few dramas There are few dramas in which the secret is revealed early in the serial and the punishment for the bad leads are shown, but the good leads are still reunited at the last episode. Examples are "Sweet Enemy" and "My Healing Love". Satisfactory plot in a drama "My Mother is a Daughter-in-Law" is an example of drama with a satisfactory plot, as: a) The secret is revealed early. b) Main good leads are reunited early c) Punishment for the bad leads are shown in many episodes. Thus, it gives a lot of psychological pay off. This drama promises a satisfactory plot and much psychological pay off The story is unique. It promises a satisfactory plot: a.1) Part of the secret (that DK 2.0 is Soo-Ho) is revealed early in the serial. b) Main good leads (Soo-Ho & Sa-Ha) is reunited early in the serial. Now they could together fight the bad enemies. Hopefully, viewers could enjoy much bonding moments between them. Now, what remains are: a.2) The revealing of Soo-Ho as the lost grandson and his reunion with his (grand)parents. Hopefully, this could be revealed fairly early, so that viewers could enjoy much bonding moments between them . d) Punishment of the perpetrators (Nam-Joon, Esther, and Ae-Ra). Hopefully, this could be revealed fairly early, so that viewers could enjoy their punishment. In conclusion, this drama has good potential for a lot of psychological pay-off. Therefore, Kudos for the production team & writer. Please keep the good work, so that the potential could be made into reality.
  6. Hope for win-win solution If the situation, as you describe it, is true, then I sincerely wish that the women in the country could find a good solution. I also wish that the men in the country would help to find a good solution. In my observation, emancipation movement would only succeed if the menfolk support the movement. I also wish that the women would not forget the men's help, as seems to happen in some occidental countries. Problem: (In these dramas) DIL has to serve as domestic maid I have the same wish. It is to be noted that, in these dramas, what you describe as to take care of their families often means to take care their husbands' extended families. After marriage a wife joins her husband's extended family, which may consist of parents-in-law, grandparents-in-law, brothers & sisters-in-law and nephews & nieces in law. The problem is that (1) even when the DIL also work for a living, she is expected to look after the big family, (2) her MIL may pressure her to leave work and serve the big family. Meanwhile, other members, including the brothers & sisters in law and nephews and nieces in law could behave as young masters/mistresses. There are a lot of examples, and some are worse, but I would present 2 average cases. Case 1: "Shining Eun-Soo": Double work load (public & domestic) Eun-Soo is a very capable worker. Yet, before and after she goes to work, and during week ends, she has to do all the house work. Her father's in law's sister, who gets free house and meal, just sits lazily. She even gives additional work to her. Her sister-in-law is also exempt from work. Her husband is willing to help her, but her mother-in-law opposes that. Thus, she has to work double (in the company and in the house). Case 2: "My Only One": Leave public work to serve in domestic work Do-Ran is a very capable worker. Yet, after she joins her husband's family , her MIL pressures her to leave the company and serve her parents-in-laws. She also has to take care of the grandma. Meanwhile, her brother-in-law's wife sits lazily, wasting money through shopping, while continually ruining Do-Ran' life. At the end of the serial, she still has not returned to the company, while still serving in her husband's house. Conclusion In these dramas, women who are DILs often become domestic servants, and are abused at that. The situation also often happens when the women are foster daughters. (In "My Only One", before marriage, Do-Ran's foster mom exploits & abuses her). In other words, these serials often depict the exploitation of fellow women, especially daughter-in-laws and foster daughters. Message for Dear production team and scriptwriter It is to be noted that the exploitation of fellow humans were already banished during the French revolution in the 18th century. Therefore, Dear production team and scriptwriter, I wish you all the best of success. Nevertheless, I could not help asking you this million dollar question: Would this drama just describe the problems or would it offer solutions? Let the curtain opens.
  7. Oh, no. Not that again please .... This is a week-end drama. Usually, the principal (most important lead) is a senior person. Examples are "My Father is Strange", "My Golden Life", "The Man who Set the Table", and "My Only One". The titles in these dramas actually refer to the principal senior lead. This new serial has 2 titles, "My Prettiest Daughter in the World" or "Mother of Mine". I believe that the second title would be more accurate. In order to attract romance viewers, usually there is a sub-plot for the main young lead's romance. However, from the middle of the serial to the end, the focus usually shifts to the senior lead, while the young main lead's romance would serve as a sideshow.
  8. Yes , the laws seem to belong to a different universe. For example, in many 120-episode serials, the plot is such that good leads often suffer until the second last episode and enjoy true happiness only in a few scenes in the last episodes. Good lovers sometimes are only reunited at the last minute of the last episode. By contrast, bad leads often have a field day until the second last episode. Sometimes, they got few scenes of prison times in the last two episodes. At other times, they are just shown to enter a prison at one scene and then, after time break, they are shown to be released at the next scene. At still other times, they are not punished at all: Just a few sentences of apology absolve them from any consequence of their wrong doings in the 117+ episodes. There is an impression that in many of these shows: - It's OK to show quite a lot of suffering of good leads. - It's not OK to show the suffering of bad leads. What perplexes me is the fact that most commenters, in this forum and other forums, are not happy at this unnatural plot. Yet, in serial after serial, such annoying plot keeps appearing. These serials are produced for audience. - If the audience in these forums do not like such a plot, are there any other audience groups that like such a plot? - If these other audience groups do not like it, either, then for whom are these serials produced?
  9. @O I see that there are some aspects that we tend to be in agreement, like the questionable actions from lawyer Heo and Nam-Jin in dealing with the abduction case, Si-Woo's haughtiness, the difficulty to take sides with characters as 'good' and 'bad' leads become blurred, and the implication that family loyalty trumps justice. However, there are some aspects that I respectfully beg to disagree. I do not make a fuss on Nam-Jin's decision to donate his liver. I support his action on humanistic ground. If I am not mistaken, Seong-Joo also supports his action. As for Nam-Jin's, I keep my opinion that he may not be a good leader. Lawyer Heo mentions that the late chairman had a vision that Nam-Jin's presence in the leadership is required to protect the employees. There is no guarantee that Si-Woo, on his own, could implement the chairman's vision. Giving up means that Nam-Jin ignored the chairman's vision and the protection of the employee. Nam-Jin is also the leader of his group. His group wants him to win, in the hope that when he does, their positions would also improve. If Nam-Jin wins the competition but gives up, even though he asks that his team members be 'looked after', the positions that they get might not be as good as if Nam-Jin leads the company. I am not sure if, in the real world, many people would like to join somebody like Nam-Jin. The chairman's will strictly stipulates that the heir should be the winner of the competition. This will should be, legally and ethically, be honored. "Blood is thicker than water" (AKA nepotism) should take a back seat. Even if team 1 wins overall, in round 2 its leader used intimidation to force an artist to model for them. In any competition, cheating is a ground for dismissal. As for Seong-Joo, she is a realistic image. If a person did a lot of misdeeds, the victim would be careful to forgive and accept the perpetrator. The victim would observe if the perpetrator really regrets her/ his misdeeds and mends her/his way. S/he also needs some time to heal her/his wounds. These things may take some time (months or even years). As another commenter puts it, this is not like 'cheap forgiveness' that blights these dramas. There is another quality in Seong-Joo. She is kind, cheerful and smart. She is loyal to Nam-Jin, when his dad is against him. She is courteous to his adopted mom, even though she is poor, while defying Soo-Hee, even though she is rich. She is good at her work and hardworking. She is loyal to and defends team 2 fearlessly. When Team 1 used dirty tactics in round 2, she quietly, with lawyer Heo and the artist, made a plan that enables team 2 to recruit the artist, two. She is an good person and has a good potential to be a leader.
  10. You are welcome. In the two dramas that I mentioned, the focus was on how the bad leads mended their ways, in a lot of episodes, so that they finally deserve forgiveness and acceptance. If you wish to watch how well good people strike against bad people and how main bad persons got prison punishment, here are some suggestions (if you have not watched them): 1. The Promise / Heaven's Promise (This might the best justice drama that I have encountered) 2. Ice Adonis / Yellow Boot 3. Hide and Seek 4. First Love Again. In nos. 1-3, the main good lead is played by Lee Yu-Ri, in no. 4 it is played by Myung Se-Bin. In these dramas, initially the main good leads are kind but naive. However, after half of the episodes, they learn their lessons and become formidable fighters. They regularly strike down at the bad leads, until finally the bad leads lose everything. It is amazing that these good leads, although they are females, are more decisive than many male leads in other dramas. [Note: Thanks for your suggestion on "Sunny Again Tomorrow". I have watched it].
  11. The problematic message: Be careful for your blood pressure Episode 96 Nam-Jin to Si-Woo, “Even if I become the successor, I’m going to give up…. You’re the successor of Hyungkang … I don’t want that job.” Sang-Hyun, “… shouldn’t we raise an issue of hoarding their own product?” Nam-Jin, “That doesn’t matter.” Thus, Nam-Jin is ready to surrender the company to the other team, even though they use illegal/dirty tactics and its leaders have committed serious crimes? What about his team members, who risk their jobs to join him? What about Seong-Joo? What about Man-Seok? Does he ask their opinions? As I mentioned previously, Nam-Jin may be a good man. However, he may not be a good leader or a good boy friend or a good son-in-law. I wonder if the messages for the viewers are that, 1) A ‘good’ person should be willing to sacrifice/risk her/his life and wealth for the welfare of bad people and their allies. 2) The ‘good’ person’s allies (team members, girlfriend, parents-in-law, etc.) should also be willing to make similar sacrifices. Considering the legal and ethical ramifications of the messages, I wonder if the production team & writer realize that such messages belong to a different universe. Perhaps, the ‘15+’ sign, at the opening image, needs to be raised to ‘21+’, or even ‘25+’. Perhaps, also, before watching these serials, viewers need to consult their physicians. High blood pressure should not be treated lightly.
  12. @sebsob There are two serials that, IMHO, have balanced developments and endings (the good leads make sure that the bad leads are made to improve their characters & behaviors in a lot of episodes). [Disclaimer: Spoiler effect is not intended]. 1) “Five Enough” (54 long episodes) The main young good leads fell in love, challenged the male lead’s parent’s opposition, got married in the middle of the serial, and lived in a separate house. (This is quite new in these dramas). Being divorced with children, the new couple tried hard to sort out their problems. Firstly, they tried to share their loves among their bio and step children. Then, they managed to stop the male lead’ parents from interfering with their children’s raising. Meanwhile, the male lead’s mom and female lead’s grand mom kept on fighting with each other. However, over time, the elderly ladies learnt to tolerate each other. Over time, the young couple and the male lead’s parents made compromise. Along the serial, in a lot of episodes, the young couple, their parents, and their children grow in their characters and behaviors. The harmony that they found at the end did not come through 0.5-2 episodes, like in these dramas, but through hard effort in 30+ episodes, thus it was quite convincing. 2) “My Mother is a Daughter-in-Law” (136 short episodes) The young female lead married the elder female lead’s son and got a child. Thus, the elder was her mother-in-law (MIL). However, the son died and she married the young male lead, in the middle of the serial. Meanwhile the elder lady married the elder male lead. This elder male was a nephew of the young male lead. Thus, the young lady’s former MIL now became her niece-in-law. The elder lady and elder man tried to sabotage the young couple’s business and relationship. They even managed to get them divorced. However, their conspiracy was revealed and the young couple got back their business and also reunited. Meanwhile, the elder couple got punished for their wrong doings. In a lot of episodes, the elder couple improved their characters and behavior. When their wickedness recurred, they were again punished, until eventually they became good people. Near the end, both ladies helped each other’s baby delivery. Throughout the episodes, they maintained their tupsy-turvy relationship. The harmony that they found at the end did not come through 0.5-2 episodes, like in these dramas, but through hard effort in 60+ episodes, thus it was quite convincing. Unfortunately, this serial has no English subs, thus I have to comprehend it with the help of Soompi discussions. Note: 1) If you have watched them, we may compare notes. 2) If you also have recommendations, please inform me.
  13. Dear fellow viewers, I feel for you. Actually, when I finish watching many dramas, I often find myself in agony. Good leads must suffer, even protect bad leads: Is this the message? It seems that in many dramas: 1) Good leads suffer in 97% (or more) episodes and are truly happy in 3% (or less) (last) episodes. 2) Bad leads prosper in those 97% (or more). In the remaining 3% (or less), they are sometimes punished, but the punishment is very little shown. In others, bad leads escape punishment completely. This is already bad. However, what might disturb the mind is that, not only are bad leads expected to forgive and accept bad leads, they are even expected to protect, even risk their lives, for the bad leads. a) In "The Good Witch", bad lead left good lead unconscious in a burning house. Yet, to protect the bad lead, the good lead threw herself at a gun and got mortally wounded in her stomach. b) In “Meet Me at 1006”, good lead tried to save the bad lead, who had just kidnapped his girlfriend, and got shot point blank in the head. While many other dramas do not go to such extremes, the message (that good leads must suffer and protect bad leads) seems to permeate. c) In this drama, Eun-Young & Do-Ran causes endless suffering to Doran until the last 1-2 episodes. Yet Do-Ran protects Eun-Young and Da-Ya to the end. For example, when the chairman wanted to divorce his wife, Do-Ran protected her and got divorced instead. She never tells other people how both women abused her. This is the million dollar question: "Why should good leads suffer, and even risk their lives, for the sake of bad leads, who have inflicted so much suffering to the bad leads?" If the production teams/scriptwriters want to send a message, what kind of topsy-turvy message do they want to convey to the viewers? I rest my case.
  14. Only 2 minutes for the core of the plot (Mr Kang's rehabilitation)? The core of the plot in this serial is the search for Mr Kang’ innocence (on the murder conviction) and for getting back his reputation. However, the rehabilitation only takes place less than 2 minutes (Episode 102, 1.06.45-1.08.02), in the form of good TV news on his innocence, right after the ex-loan shark confessed. Is it that easy? If I am not mistaken, in the real world, even if the real culprit confesses, the wronged person does not automatically get his/her good name back. A court rehabilitation needs to take place. Before that, the police might not reveal the case as they need to do a re-investigation. Usually, the wronged person has to push for a re-trial. There might be opposition as the re-examination might damage the reputations of the officers who were involved in the cold case. Thus, the whole process could be slow. The news people would usually pick up the re-examination when/after the court re-examination takes place. Yet, it seems that the production team / writer do not wish to allocate proper time for these significant events. Do they want to tell the viewers that, "If you want to watch these important events, just use your own imagination"? By contrast, literally hundreds of minutes are wasted on less important scenes on Eun-Young & Da-ya's horrible antics, Do-Ran' adoptive mom' s annoying antics, and other trivial scenes. Don't the production team / writer realize that viewers are sick to their stomachs by these useless clowns? The production team has given a lot of scenes when the innocents, Mr Kang & Do-Ran, get bullied by the community. Yet, I bet we may not watch any scene on how the real killer gets ostracized by the community. I wonder if the production team set their priorities right.
  15. Ever since I learn that Soo-Hee is kind Nam-Jin's bio mom and that she has shown her remorse, suddenly she looks prettier. I wonder if I need to change my spectacles or if I have a soft spot for a gumiho. Now for a more serious thought. I am with you here. In my understanding, (in the real world), (unlike a civil case) a criminal case could not be waived. Even if the victim does not file a case, the public prosecutor would still prosecute the perpetrator. In these dramas, a person who commits a serious crime against a relative could be waived (not punished). The time line for the Nam-Jin's abduction does not start from his abduction as a baby, but since he was found. Thus, the statute of limitations does not apply. Nam-Jin's abduction is criminal case. With or without complaint, the public prosecutor would still file a case. If Soo-Hee and guy Bang cannot be prosecuted because Nam-Jin (victim) gives a false testimony and opposes the prosecution, this means that there is a legal loophole that allows such exemption. I wonder if, in real life, there is such a legal loophole in the country. Alternatively, maybe, in these dramas, special rules apply (which I refer to as "Constitution of Drama Lalaland" in a post), e.g., 1. Blood shall be thicker than water. 2. Kids shall respect their parents without reserve. The problem is that, with such rules, like someone says it, crimes seem to pay. I am sure that the production teams & writers do not wish to convey such a message. However, that is the unintended perception.
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