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2 hours ago, KDramaFan0828 said:
SHwa is painted as a strong, independent woman. The modern woman who is confident and self-sufficient. Everyone is amazed at how she as able to squeeze everything into her day because it seems so impossible (which is taking a toll on her health apparently). She seems to have everything under her control and she’s always level-headed and objective that you can be confident on her opinion. Praised as an achiever, she's used to accomplishing things on her own. She arranged IJ’s first surgery in Yulje all by herself and as I’m observing how she teaches her students, she also has the tendency to take things into her own hands. No one can question her capabilities. But when you’re always so self-sufficient, it could also get lonely at times. When you’re always the pillar, don’t you reach a point where it’s hard to bear all the weight by yourself? We might not see it, but she has her own weaknesses and struggles. She’s human afterall. But she has mastered being strong and independent that she is able to keep her composure even in the toughest times. Nonetheless, this doesn’t mean she isn’t shaken inside.
I love your detailed analysis and reasoning behind SHwa, all the while respecting her love for solo independence as a female and yet not downplaying how we all need some good company at times in life. SHwa is no doubt my favourite character in HP, and often it's because of her character being such a strong supporting pillar in the 99s friendship group, and how refreshing it is to have a capable, inspiring woman in Kdrama yet all the while being sweet, kind and not at all intimidating to her peers and subordinates. As I re-watched all the episodes, I really enjoyed the way the writer peppered snippets and insights of her story and weaved it into the main storyline, be it her friendship with all the boys or her potential loveline with IJ.
She's portrayed as an extremely capable career woman, and I really think the Daddy Long-legs Program scene in ep 4 (jumping ahead here) explained a lot about her personality traits, with her taking all the reins and charging on despite CH offering his help multiple times. That's also one of the reason I was never onboard the SHwa-CH ship because he's always shown as missing his timing and a step behind (be it his courting actions or his confession).
Interestingly with IJ, we are able to see more sides of the human Songhwa and not just wonder woman ghost Professor Chae, but more of her insecure vulnerability and (lack of better term) the more fragile side of her as a woman. That look she had when she saw IK waiting at the hospital for her review during the breast diagnosis scare and knowing that won't be alone facing this? Or the one she gave IK when they were about to enter the room for the doctor's review? Oopf, she's definitely looking for assurance, and IK has always been there to support her during all these times when she needs someone to be with her.
The camera perspectives and intercut scenes by Director Shin have always been very deliberate in his shows, and I have no doubts the same for HP. We were shown quite a number of fleeting scenes since ep 1 of the camera panning to SHwa and her reactions to IJ and his actions like below, and I think it's pretty obvious how intentional the writer and director have been in setting the backstory between them from the start to the transition point around ep 4 when IJ got divorced.
- Ep 1: The scene of SHwa smiling outside the door when IJ's surgery was a success and he wanted her to inform the patient's family instead of him doing it.
- Ep 2: At the flashback scene with SHwa was singing "Introduce me a good person", the exact lyrics when she was pointing out the cake and smiling to IK after was "I want someone caring who noticed even small details". Totally apt for the someone who's always there at the right timing when she needs someone and silently expressing his care in the most IK way ever (nothing better than getting your morning coffee delivered the instant you craved for it).
There are so many more and I really can't wait as we rewatch all the eps again to relive the story between two life-long friends and count down till season 2 to find out the meaning behind SHwa's deep love for rainy days. I'm sure it's gonna be all sentimental and romantic, and definitely linked to her first love IJ.
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Has this image been shared yet? Just saw it being published on KR news portal. Wished we had a better quality with no watermark, both looked stunningly beautiful on stage last night, just like a fairytale prom night!
Side note: I just read in DC that SYJ has been monitoring the fan voting on Tiktok, and even downloaded the app as well. Can't believe how cute and sweet this lady is, being together with us in spirit to show support for CLOY. :D:D
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Brief translations for the Tik Tok couple video:
SYJ: I was actually keeping an eye on all the hard work by many of you who have been voting so actively on social media and even uploading your proof shots. I’m really touched when I realised that all of you really gave us this much love and felt really happy every day. And today just seems like the day where everyone’s hard work paid off and I really just want to thank all of you.
HB: Just like what I’ve mentioned during the award speech, I think that we can only return your love through our future works, not just for this award but also for everything that you have given us attention for. So I hope to greet you in the future soon with diverse works which I will work hard on. Thank you!
SYJ: Thank you! * While waving
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Translation note: I find it so endearing that HB is addressing his thank you note from a "we" perspective in Korean, referring to themselves as one entity. It's really more of a couple award than a fan-voted popularity award. Isn't it obvious when the organiser chose to let them take the award photo together with 1 trophy rather than 2 when they both received their personal award actually?
No matter the results, I'm sure both of them took the extra effort to show up and attend today's ceremony to specially thank their fans. Given how they have practically rejected all kinds of exposure and publicity post-CLOY, I'm just really thankful for this chance to see them being happy together.
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Sharing my fav moment in the newly released Swoon BTS, i just can't get enough of their expression in this scene no matter how many times I've watched it since it was first released. This is 100% HB & SYJ, nth about their characters! And look at those HANDS!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4JSM4OP504
Plus did anyone realised that in the farewell interview, SYJ called themselves the "Doori couple"? How sweet that she decided to follow HB and use that name instead of the "Riri couple" that she preferred in the early days of the drama promotion.
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20 minutes ago, AnnieCheesecake said:
This is the longest clip that I’ve saw from this interview until now (if someone has the link of the full interview pls send to me).
Anyways I could understand the last two questions that SYJ and HB replied ‘cause was already translated on SNS by other ppl, but the first question wasn’t. If someone could translate I would be extremely grateful :
There you are, translations for the first question! How cute that SYJ totally ignored the key part of the question and tried hard to answer logically.
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Fan: Let’s be honest. The negotiation fell apart because your heart fluttered after seeing HB and you just couldn’t stay angry isn't it?
SYJ: There were many moments (in the movie) when I felt angry. But as the truth was slowly revealed to me in the later part of the movie, I felt like I could identify with him more and sympathise (with his actions). But as a negotiator, there can be no failures and so I tried hard to stay logical. hehehe..
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Plus the latest update on the CLOY DVD which I could find posted 28 Feb says that the staff from the production company are working remotely due to the virus situation in Korea. Therefore, the DVD team is anticipating some delays for the crew to gather together and proceed with the DVD meeting. The team has not heard anything back from the producing company yet, but the distribution firm has requested data transfer from them to ensure that the relevant footages will not be deleted for now.
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Warning: Long post ahead!
I’ve been a long-term fan of SYJ, big admirer of her fabulous acting since Summer Scent days, and followed most of her projects along the years.She has always come across to me as a strong independent woman, someone firm of her own beliefs, perfectionist who’s ambitious in her career and a stunning performer in front of the camera. I love her for always pushing boundaries and challenging herself in so many diverse roles (my all-time fav was her divorcee role in Alone in Love).
Despite being a long time fan, I’ve never actually shipped her with any fellow actors even though she always had amazing chemistry with all her past partners. Like many had said earlier, she has such a bubbly, easy-going personality on the outside that makes people around her so comfortable that we question if they are dating. It’s interesting how I always describe her as melancholic and introvert rather than extrovert like many believes. In many of her past interviews, she has mentioned how she has changed a lot throughout the years as an actress, from a quiet introvert girl before debut to someone who’s confident and sure of her capabilities and continue to challenge herself in different roles. Her journey says a lot about what she has been through in the tough Korean entertainment biz.
From the CLOY Swoon interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1s6G2ZV_dM), we saw that she chose the answer that described her as “Such a magnetic force… delicate and gentle. A surprising strength, docile yet intelligent. Seductive yet romantic. What a stunning performer. Bravo SYJ.” as something HB would choose. Major props to the fan for writing that! I think she probably loves that answer the most and feels that it described her best for who she portrays.
It’s funny how I find many of her past co-stars to be both in awe (of her acting talents) and slightly cowed by her strong personality. She definitely gets very playful and jokes around a lot with them, always teasing them slightly in both public and acting situations. But beyond that front, I think she’s also always trying to draw a line and protect herself, having been such a veteran in the complicated showbiz. You definitely can see that past some of the smiles she put up in front of cameras. She’s very private and enjoys her freedom to live as a normal person when not on camera.
But this time round with CLOY, I have to say I see a lot of possibilities between HB and SYJ. Are they friends? Are they dating before the show? Or did they get close during filming and looking to bring things further now? We’ll never know. And shouldn’t feel like we ought to know as well.
But even if it’s just friendship, I think that they make a fairly awesome pair. He treats her like his equal and with great respect from what we’ve seen since Negotiation days. His words always described her as a wonderfully talented actress in her works and wanting to work together again for another great piece of work. We’re really lucky CLOY happened and we got to see such amazing chemistry and emotional acting on screen between 2 equals.
I also appreciate how honest and authentic HB is in showing his admiration for SJY. Not just through his caring actions (which we all love) but also through his sincere and warm words like “I thought she’ll be a sensitive person especially falling deep into the character. But she turned out to be really easy-going and have a down to earth side to her so it was great seeing that.” That explains a lot in how comfortable and in tune they are with each other.
With that, I see her opening up more with him and she’s also less dominating with HB as compared to her past partners. She teased him hard during Negotiation and early filming days of CLOY, but in the more recent BTS, we definitely see a softer side to her when she’s with him. Like that intimate look at the hospital scene when they were just having a private conversation? Or the scene when he got the ring wrong and she just gave him those eye smiles? She’s such a little girl there just like how he's smiley like a boy in love.
Ending this long note, I just wanted to share translations for this old interview of SYJ back in 2008. It’s a pretty cool show if you want to hear honest comments from her on her fame, rumours and thoughts on dating in showbiz! And of course, this was taken way back in 2008, and many things could have changed. Hopefully HB could be the right fated one to change that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D8uhjCBzGY
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MC: You’ve not had even one scandal! Were you never in any dating relationships or did you date in secret and was just never caught?
SYJ: I dated secretly of course!
Side MC: She’s so cool..
MC: There wasn’t a (dating) scandal because the other party is not an actor or celebrity? How did you get to meet people outside of the entertainment circle?
SYJ: There are times when we’ve met by chance..
Side MC: At clubs? (There was an earlier running joke in the show about her fake rumours of loving to hang out at clubs)
* LOL at the death stare she threw him.
MC: Isn’t it easy for actors and actresses to get closer during filming?
SYJ: Well I think first off, it’s actually much more difficult for me to date an actor.
MC: But why? Isn’t it good if you can discuss about acting with your partner?
SYJ: Being friends that way is great. But i think it gets difficult if you ended up dating.
MC: Like if you ended up falling in love?
SYJ: Yeaa and I’ve seen many of that around us, actors dating, breaking up and dating again. Looking at that side of things, of course there are advantages to it, but I personally don’t think (dating an actor) is suitable for my personality.
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2 hours ago, Cherrine Kim said:
Previously i asked this in LUTYN thread.. how they called each other names.. and thank u for give this clip.. at first kaj called him kim nam gil shi.. but after that she called him "oppa".. LOL. Its a good start consider they r close now.. she also said that she felt comfortable acting with him..
btw i wanna hear kng called her "joong-ah" do u have any clips of it?? If u have it share it here please....
I just read in DC that the same production crew who revealed the BTS happenings commented that the cast called each other their real names on set, while the crew calls them by their character names.. So i'm guessing she calls him oppa while he calls her Ah-joong? Or maybe Ah-joongah or Ah-joongie to be more affectionate?
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55 minutes ago, tenilove97 said:
Oh and although unfortunately, we have yet to get our hands on the bday message vid or even just what she said. I swear, you'd think it's like governments secrets. At least we do know thanks to a fan account's reaction to the vid...he was shocked the most by hers because it was the longest one. But like I said we still don't know what was said. *sigh*
Do you have any idea which fan account is this from?
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Notice how at 3:40, Hyeri was hitting RJY in a very gf-like way when Lee Moon Sae was on stage teasing RJY about proposing in real life to Deoksun?? Her reaction was really suspicious and she was mouthing "mo-ya, mo-ya" which means "what is this? what is this?" to him.. Hahaaa this couple is definitely not just friends. No way friends would do this when they are teased if they do not have feelings for each other.
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Happy Lunar New Year to everyone who celebrates it! 모두 새해 복 많이 받으세요~ *^o^*
Hyeri talked about tearing up at Junghwan's confession scene again in her recent interview. I only selectively picked some parts of the interview which I felt we would be interested to know more to translate and share.
Hyeri, "The moment I read the script, it was so sad that I thought that it's definitely gonna be a big thing. From Hyeri's perspective, and not from Deoksun's perspective, Junghwan's feelings that couldn't be expressed even once were really unfortunate. I was sad as I felt we were saying goodbye. I felt that it would be difficult for Junyeol oppa to face me so I tried hard to avoid his eyes. But hearing his lines just through my ears made me tear up more.
Source: http://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=421&aid=0001880254&gid=999339&cid=1012802
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Welcoming the shipper threads back! Life has been a bore without u guys here..
I've previously posted a translation of an interview excerpt from Hyeri's recent interview where she was commenting on Junghwan's confession scene. If anyone missed it, I've included in the spoiler below.
SpoilerI've just translated an excerpt from Hyeri's recent interview published today where the interviewer questioned her about filming pausing because of her crying during Junghwan's confession scene. They also brought up how Ryu Jun Yeol revealed this BTS on tvN's 'TAXI' show recently.
Hyeri, "That scene was actually a farewell between Junghwan and Deoksun. It was love that couldn't be fulfiled, in some ways, love that ended unfulfiled. So I had thought that Deoksun wasn't totally without any feelings (for Junghwan). It was love that was too young and beautiful. That was 5 years ago in the past anyway. There were parts in Junghwan's lines recalling about the past, like 'when we chanced upon each other on the bus', where my heart really hurt so much for Junghwan's love even when hearing it in Deoksun's perspective. As the scene passed by, I felt upset and my heart hurts.
Junghwan's love that didn't get to even bloom became the past and I think my heart hurts for his pure love. So I think no matter as Deoksun or Hyeri, we both felt the same hurting feelings. Anyway, because it wasn't right for my feelings to show that way, so I tried hard to get my act together when acting out the scene. I was that much immersed in the drama itself. In Deoksun's position, and also from the viewers' position, I think we all cried so much because we were all very immersed (in the story)."
I am anticipating more interviews where the cast or even the scriptwriter and PD will be questioned about many significant scenes that happened in the drama
There's a new series of Hyeri interviews published today. Here's one interesting one I've came across and translated! Will continue to add on as I read and translate more ~
#Affectionate Ryu Junyeol: Different from the brusque Junghwan who couldn't express himself well in 'Answer Me 1988', the real Junyeol oppa is really affectionate and his personaility is totally opposite of Junghwan. He listens well to others objectively. He's definitely not a brusque person.
#Hyeri's Style = Junghwan: My ideal type is someone who's half like Taek (PBG) and the other half like Junghwan (RJY). I've always liked someone who grumbles often. The director had asked me back when I first received the script without knowing who has been casted for the roles yet, "Who do you like the most?" I replied while giving a thumbs up, "Junghwan is not bad at all (literal meaning is not a joke)." and replied that Junghwan is my style. Hearing that, the director asked, "Why? What about Taek? And Sunwoo?"
#Come Back Earlier: We filmed the scene where Deoksun was caught in the rain on her way back from the library and Junghwan gave his umbrella and told her to come back earlier first before the wall+bed scene (Koreans have been calling the closed-up wall scene as the wall+bed scene). My clothes were wet and cold from the rain in the previous scene and we filmed the wall scene while I was shivering. It was so cold that I had no other thoughts at all then. Ryu Junyeol oppa was really considerate and used his hands to stroke and warm my arms because it was cold.
#Bad guy is my ideal type: (In real life, between someone whom you have to take care of (Taek) or someone who takes care of you (Junghwan), who do you like more?) It's not anything big, but I do get caught up in this. (Laughs) I'm not good at realizing that someone is taking care of me. I think I really like it when someone takes care of me without me realizing that "Ah, he has always been looking after me". In fact, when I was so sure that the other party was taking care of me, my members ended saying it was not. I'm like a guy with a rough personality (giving herself up), a bad kid in all. I like bad guys. Someone who works hard at what he does, someone who fights hard when working. In one sentence, I really can't conclude a definition easily.
Source: http://thestar.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2016/01/27/2016012703478.html
LOL, Hyeri also mentioned in the interview that the Girl's Day members gathered to watch Ep10 together and the unnies were screaming away at the "Hajima, blind date hajima" scene.
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[Just edited to include the second part excerpt!]
I'm not sure if this would be irrelevant here but since the shipping threads are temporary closed and this piece of news is still related to Ryu Jun Yeol's amazing last drama character, I thought I would just post this up here first.
I've just translated an excerpt from Hyeri's recent interview published today where the interviewer questioned her about filming pausing because of her crying during Junghwan's confession scene. They also brought up how Ryu Jun Yeol revealed this BTS on tvN's 'TAXI' show recently.
Hyeri, "That scene was actually a farewell between Junghwan and Deoksun. It was love that couldn't be fulfiled, in some ways, love that ended unfulfiled. So I had thought that Deoksun wasn't totally without any feelings (for Junghwan). It was love that was too young and beautiful. That was 5 years ago in the past anyway. There were parts in Junghwan's lines recalling about the past, like 'when we chanced upon each other on the bus', where my heart really hurt so much for Junghwan's love even when hearing it in Deoksun's perspective. As the scene passed by, I felt upset and my heart hurts.
Junghwan's love that didn't get to even bloom became the past and I think my heart hurts for his pure love. So I think no matter as Deoksun or Hyeri, we both felt the same hurting feelings. Anyway, because it wasn't right for my feelings to show that way, so I tried hard to get my act together when acting out the scene. I was that much immersed in the drama itself. In Deoksun's position, and also from the viewers' position, I think we all cried so much because we were all very immersed (in the story)."
I am anticipating more interviews where the cast or even the scriptwriter and PD will be questioned about many significant scenes that happened in the drama.
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Ryu Jun-yeol shared in V-app streaming that the whole atmosphere was very down during JH's confession scene in ep 18. He's not the kind who would spend a lot of time reading the script many times but for this important scene, he memorised the lines and went into filming.. Hyeri couldn't stop crying and they had to pause filming even and wait for her to calm down before they start filming again.
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I admit to watching ep20 with a heavy heart yesterday. And I'm glad to write here that my love for the story remains the same.
I've always been a firm JH supporter right from ep 1. When they showed the scene of JH's smirking smile at DS on TV. I'll be honest and say that it has been difficult for me to let the story development sink in since ep 19 and it's largely because of attachment to the wonderfully written (and acted) character Kim Jung Hwan.
Despite the ending couple not being the couple I wish for, despite JH not getting the closure we all wanted so much for, despite many loopholes we did not get answers for in the last ep, I'm writing this because I still want to thank the writer and the team for giving us a memorable Answer Me 1988.
After rewatching ep 19 and 20, and reading many comments on Naver, TVN board, DC Gall and the recent recap on Dramabeans site, I finally came to an end about this overwhelming sense of bittersweet sadness I've been feeling after watching the ending epilogue.
If we go back to the family theme of this series, I believe the writer has fulfilled what she promised.
She has created a neighborhood full of loving characters whom we love. Families we all feel like our own. Mums who never fail to stop worrying over their kids just like our own. Dads who made us cry over their silent suffering like our own. Siblings who fight and love just as strongly as our own. Husbands and wives who prove screaming and nagging are just another form of love like ours in marriages. First loves who's heartbreak aches just as much as our past loves. Characters whom we felt like old friends. Friendship forming and fading, so we know how precious relationships are.
And the youth we know we can never go back again.
In the ending scene when DS was asking the gang why are they here, and JH simply answered "What do you mean why are we here? Where would we have gone?”, i really teared up at the meaning of this simple conversation. That our youth, those days we remember fondly. Those times that felt so faraway and those things that we can no longer find in reality, are simply more beautiful because they are remembered as part of our memory, that we have lived and loved once.
Looking at the current landscape of Korean dramas, when would we ever have such a poignant story written again? A story about times when things were simpler. A story that talks deeply about the love and ties of family, friends, siblings, husbands and wives. When i wonder that, I begin to believe that Answer Me 1988 is and will always be a gem in Kdrama history. A story that dares to move the central love to the backseat and spend time telling stories honoring our fabulous mums and dads.
That's not to say this drama is without its flaws. Plenty it has, but I think the flaws do not take away the meaningful messages this series has tried hard to relay. Like many frustrations I've seen, the husband hunt story and choosing not to focus on DS's inner thoughts was what I felt a key barrier from keeping the story flowing. Nearing the end, I was contented to see DS happy and enjoying a cute romance with Taek but at the same time sad that I stopped feeling invested enough to feel the happiness her character was feeling.
Of course we could say the writer could have done much more in the last 2 eps. They could have given us a perfect happy ending with the whole gang turning up and hanging out like old times in 2016. They could have given us a proper closure for JH and clear up the disjointed hints scattered in the past eps. But in my opinion, it was probably an intentional buildup the writer wanted.
Like the broken, abandoned Ssangmun-dong we see, things don't stay the same forever no matter how much we wish for forever. Like the friendship we yearn to protect forever, things often don't work out the same way and relationships fade.
So i finally figured out the why behind my bittersweet sadness. Maybe the ending was just a little too true to reality that my heart was refusing to accept the sad truth. That I was not ready to answer their call for my 1988, my days of youth.
This series will stay on the list as one of my favs. Because no matter its flaws, it has given me a good nostalgic dose of heartwarming happiness, bad sobbing, heartbreaks, frustrations and many more ups and downs in emotions through Ssangmun-dong and its 5 families. And just for that, I really thank the writer, PD and the whole cast and production team for coming together to make 1988 memorable for us.
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My confession to Reply 1988:
Reply 1988-ah,
I wanted to give this to you during last ep this year, but somehow giving it to you now before ending.
I like you.
I said I like you.
Ya, do you even know the things I've done because of you?
I used to wait for over an hour every day in front of my computer just to wait for live streaming to start.
I couldn't go to sleep at all because I was so worried, what if there's delay in broadcast, what if the husband is not who we thought.
"Why is Friday not here yet? Did I fell asleep and miss out any big updates on the thread?"
Ya, you were everything on my mind. You!
When we chanced on JH's first smirking smile watching DS, when you dropped hints and gave us hope, when you release BTS of our couple, and when you put our JH in a freaking army uniform, I was really so happy that I thought I'm going crazy.
I missed you a dozen times even each day, and I was just really happy each time when I could see you.
I wanted to tell you this a long time before.I really like you.
I love you.And now. Thank you for the good memories. Goodbye my first love.
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Loving the positive vibes in this thread!
Here's to sharing an interesting observation and theory(?) from DC Gall!
Some posters have been noticing a parallel narrative between the past and present scenes. I've read some of their interesting insights and tried to summarise ep 1-18 so far.
EPISODE 1: “Hand in hand”
1988: Ep centered around DS. Introduction of all characters by DS. Focus of the story on DS's life as the left out second child.
Present: Future DS alone talking about husband.EPISODE 2: “The one thing you’re mistaken about me”
1988: First appearance of DS's diary, DS puts chocolate in SW's bag, signifying her first crush on him.
Present: DS reads the diary and cringes. First appearance of Kim Joo-hyuk as husband.EPISODE 3: “Not guilty if you’re rich, guilty if you’re poor”
1988: Start of DS's crush on SW. Awkward alley scene hinting JH's realisation of DS as a woman.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 4: “Can’t help ~ing”
1988: JH's growing crush on DS and his bus scenes with DS. Taek's losing but winning story with his friends.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 5: “Preparation for winter”
1988: JH's continues crush on DS (umbrella scene). DS continues crush on SW. JH's misunderstanding about SW's feelings for DS.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 6: “The first snow is coming”
1988: First snowfall day. End of DS's crush on SW. SW's confession to BR. Taek's movie invitation.
Present: Jeon Mi-seon's first appearance as Bora unnie featuring phone conversation with husband. DS and husband talk about first snow and her crush on SW.EPISODE 7: “To you”
1988: Christmas manitto gifting. JH shows up at Gangnam to meet DS and her friends, ending scene with confused hand-cupping scene. Taek’s touching story with his dad. Taek's mannito pink gloves for DS and first sign of feelings. JH's pink gloves gift for DS through NE and DS choosing not to wear it.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 8: “One warm word”
1988: Story of No-eul and the fight between his girlfriend, her group of friends, DS and DS's friends. Reveal of Taek sleeping at his movie date with DS. Scenes of Taek smiling and enjoying DS's company.
Present: First appearance of No-eul. DS and husband bicker about everything.EPISODE 9: “Crossing the line”
1989: DS's personal development story. Development of JH-DS-Taek triangle, with identical photographs, surprise smoking habit, T-shirts in winter. JH goes to concert with DS. DS goes to China with Taek.
Present: First future scene, husband comments about DS looking pretty back then in the mystery photo. Second future scene, scene starts with DS alone, with husband entering frame and continue to bicker about date of mystery photo.EPISODE 10: “Memory”
1989: Taek's beach date and confession about liking DS to the gang. JH's "hajima, blind date hajima" scene.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 11: “Three prophecies”
1989: Start of JH's denial of feelings for DS. DS starting to show signs of falling for JH.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 12: “Loving someone”
1989: JH maintains distance with DS. Taek's head-lean scene with DS. Taek comforting DS after flasher scene.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 13: “Superman returns”
1989: DS and JH's Lee Moon-se concert date. JH continues his best to act prickly with DS. Taek and his dad's touching story. Taek's winning trophy gift to DS.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 14: “Don’t you worry”
1989: DS's pink shirt gift to JH. DS ponders about the guy she’s in love with. Taek starts taking initiative to show his feelings for DS by inviting her over and commenting about his upcoming confession.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 15: “Between love and friendship”
1989: Dong-ryong's ep. DS's growing worry about studies. No significant progress in love triangle. Taek realises JH's feelings for DS.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 16: “Irony of life, Part 1”
1989: Ep about dreams. Taek sees photo of JH and DS tucked in JH's wallet. Taek chooses to protect friendship by giving up his planned confession. No significant progress in love triangle.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 17: “Irony of life, Part 2”
1989: DS's wavering feelings towards Taek. Taek and DS's dreamy kiss. All characters moving on towards their dreams and time jump.
Present: No scene.EPISODE 18: “Goodbye first love”
1994: Time jump to 1994, with the gang being 23.
Present: DS begins interview at another location. Husband arrives from somewhere, talked to DS and shuffles off.Some interpretations we can draw from the parallel narrative:
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The present day interviews are all about reminiscing the memories of the married couple. Which means 1988 must carry some special meaning to the love story for the couple. 88 was the year JH started his crush, realised his feelings for DS and continued many of his awkward hinting in different ways. On the other hand, the only obvious romantic scene between Taek and DS in 1988 was the movie date that happened in winter 1988 (which revealed Taek was sleeping throughout). At this point of time, DS has always shown to be treating Taek like a little boy.
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The appearance, absence or movement of the characters in the present scenes seem to reflect the movement of plot in the past scenes. From ep 10 to 18, there were no adult scenes in 2015. It was coincidentally the start of the period where JH was trying hard to stay away from DS after hearing Taek's confession. In ep 18 present scene when DS was sending the husband away, the past story was also about DS not reacting to both guys.
- The time jump in ep 18 was represented in the present scene with a change in the settings (from home to a cafe).
- The present characters appear in line with the stories of the past characters. E.g. Bora appears in present scene when the story in 1988 talks about Bora smoking and revealing how SW's crush has always been Bora so far.
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One theory I was hoping fellow shippers can share some insights on too ~
The scene in ep 18 where they named the theme of the ep "Goodbye First Love" captures a white feather floating on the doorstep, past the Forrest Gump movie poster, through the gate bars, and then towards JH's open window. The scene then narrows to JH entering his room after a bath. The background song for the whole scene was the instrumental piano song "Forrest Gump - Feather Theme" in the movie OST.
I'm not familiar at all with the movie, having not watched it before. But some reading on the synopsis and the movie tells that the white feather has a strong symbolism in the Forrest Gump movie. I'm pretty certain that scene wasn't filmed just for aesthetic purposes but carries a strong meaning towards the storyline. The whole 1988 story in fact, is shown to carry some elements of the Forrest Gump movie, such as main characters knowing each other since little kids, first loves, key stories happening on bus scenes, male character in the armed forces, and so on. It was also the movie JH and DR was catching before JH finally makes a pivotal decision to go after DS.
Back to the Forrest Gump story. Tom Hanks, the main character of the movie interpreted the feather as: “Our destiny is only defined by how we deal with the chance elements to our life and that’s kind of the embodiment of the feather as it comes in. Here is this thing that can land anywhere and that it lands at your feet. It has theological implications that are really huge.” This ties in exactly with what ep 18 and JH's narration has been telling us. That destiny and timing is driven by the decisions and actions we make at each crucial point of time.
With the white feather floating towards JH, I'm interpreting it as as an intentional symbolism from the scriptwriter and PD about his character. That he is the one embodying this journey, and the destination of the journey is dependent on how he deals with decisions and actions from now onwards. Any thoughts from those who are familiar with the movie?
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2 minutes ago, tesasonzzz said:Guys I just realized this after watching the scene when JH was rushing with his car to go to the the concert to meet lonely DS ...
He was a step late than TK because of richard simmons the traffic light...
Guys do you know what colours traffic lights have???????????
YES THATS RIGHT RED.YELLOW.GREEN richard simmons AND WHAT COLOUR MADE JH LATE? YES THATS RIGHT. I KNOW. richard simmons THIS.
Idk if this is just a coincidence or not but damn if it was then just... WOW
I HATE THIS EVEN MORE#끝까지어남류 #EONAMRYUTILLTHEEND
There's even a theory on DC Gall about how the scene shows JH being hindered by 2 freaking traffic lights, symbolising the obstacles he's met along his confession journey. First being SW, having mistaken that DS has a crush on SW and second being Taek, how he couldn't bring himself to confess after hearing that Taek likes DS too.
There are so many good theories floating around on DC Gall since last night, with many JH-DS supporters still being really positive about the ending couple. Having rewatched the ep again, I'll say I'm less bothered with the small actions the writer is purposely including in to keep the viewers confused, but more focused on the overall story development and how much the narrative follows JH.
There's no way they could cast Ryu Jun-yeol and his sexy lips and not give us a proper KISS SCENE in 20 eps right? #trustinwriter
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3 minutes ago, debieg said:
Can you share it in eng translation?
LOL not sure if the translations of the top comment would help u but here it is! The Naver article is this: http://entertain.naver.com/ranking/read?oid=311&aid=0000564388
[+22105, -696] Scriptwriter-nim kkkkkkkkkkk you're f*cking with us
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7 minutes ago, janeadelaine said:
I was thinking "don't tell me that this is just JH's imagination, please" at the end of the confession, but the writer-nim is actually more evil than that. aigooo.
I still can't get over the look on DS face when SW ask her "you got fooled too right?" it's like she's faking a laugh.. the two friends might don't know, but DS should know. what JH said were all true; DS experienced it, when JH gave her umbrella waiting for her to came home at night, when he gave her the gift or the bus scenes the alley the 'bed' scene PLEASE DEOKSEON-AH
I strongly trust that DS knows the confession was real. The connection was between them even though SW and DR were present as well. Like you said, she was part of all the memories he brought up, and the "hajima" scene was enough for her to conclude that JH then has been crushing on her, so I'm not doubting that she has an inkling the confession was very much his heartfelt words.
But I'm not blinded to her glance towards the glassdoor scene either. If that's her true reaction (without any trolling or reversal on the scriptwriter's side) after hearing JH's confession, then I think it's really time for us to let go and wish all the best for the other couple.
BUT I'm still feeling hopeful that we weren't given insight about her real feelings YET. I need her narration of her inner dialogue to really come to an end about DS's real love story.
So I'm with the rest who said that it could be the director's intention to make her feelings unreadable for now. So that we could have a bigger, more impactful reveal later.
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Guys, I've got to get this out after watching this ep.
I've watched TONS of dramas. Good and bad crappy ones included. Answer series have always been one of my favs, and 1988 is of course the one I hold most dearly to my heart so far.
There hasn't been any confession scenes that I've seen in any drama before that made me cry. JH's one is ep 18 was the first.
His lines, his acting, his facial expressions and the setting of the scene was just so soo sad. The fact that he has to resort to using this gathering to make his confession. No romantic atmosphere, no music, no preparations. The two of them weren't even alone!
My heart really broke seeing his wistful smile at the end. The fact that he had to turn his long-awaited confession into a JOKE! God knows how long he has been crushing on DS, it could jolly well be since they were little kids!
I'm not going to care how the scriptwriter is going to lead us to the end anymore, but I just want a proper closure for JH's love line. He deserves for DS to know how much he ever cared and loved her, to have the past misunderstandings cleared and for DS to know that he has always been there in those moments she thought he didn't care.
People says JH missed many of his chances and timing to confess. I agree, but what's sadder is that he knows he brought this on himself. But he still couldn't helped it. He chose to keep everything bottled so that hopefully his friends could stay happy. So he turned his confession to a laughing joke, turning the burden to be on himself and not DS.
I really love all the characters in this series, especially the gang of friends in 1988. Whoever gets to be the lucky guy called DS's husband has my blessing. I'm only wishing now that the story leading us there would be written beautifully and ended with meaning for all of the friends. Their friendship is too precious to be wasted on a messy husband mystery plot.
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JH's confession to DS:
Deoksun-ah
I wanted to give this to you during graduation this year but somehow giving it to you only now.
I like you.
I said I like you.
Ya, do you even know the things I've done because of you?
I used to wait for over an hour every day in front of our house gates just to go to school together with you.
I couldn't go to sleep at all because I was so worried whenever you are not back home from the library.
"Why is she so late? Did she fell asleep again?"
Ya, you were everything on my mind. You!
When we chanced upon each other on the bus, when we went to the concert together, and when you gave me the shirt as my birthday gift on my birthday. I was really so happy that I thought I'm going crazy.
I missed you a dozen times even each day, and I was just really happy each time when I could see you.
I wanted to tell you this a long time before.I really like you.
I love you.Script in Korean because it's so beautiful that I'm crying.
덕선아
올해 졸업할 때 줄려 그랬는데 이제준다
나 너 좋아해
좋아한다구
야 내가 너 때문에 무슨 짓 까지 했는 줄 아냐?
너랑 같이 학교갈려구 매일아침 대문앞에서 한시간넘게 기다리구
너 독서실에서 집에 올 때 까지 나 너 걱정돼서 한 숨도 못 잤어
얘가 왜 이렇게 늦지? 또 잠들었나?
야 내 신경은 온통 너였어 너
버스에서 우연히 마주쳤을 때 같이 콘서트 갔을 때
그리고 내 생일날 너한테 셔츠선물 받았을 때
나 정말 좋아서 돌아버리는 줄 알았어
하루에도 열두번도 더 보고싶고 만나면 그냥 좋았어
옛날부터 얘기하고 싶었는데 나 너 진짜 좋아사랑해
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OMG our couple spotted filming in a car!!! Alone! Just the two of them! Ahhhhhhhh!!!
Credits to DC
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The new OST song (기현 - 세월이 가면, Ki Hyun - As Time Goes By) is out!
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[OFFICIAL] Hyun Bin ❤️ Son Ye Jin (BinJin Couple)
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